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Post by someotherguy on Jun 15, 2009 22:45:40 GMT -5
That's true. Illuminati is plural - there are more than one. But yeah, anyone who doesn't believe in the Illuminati should do more research. That's JMO.
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Post by Red Lion on Jun 15, 2009 22:58:13 GMT -5
It's not a question of whether the Illuminati exists or not, as it is if they are involved with the replacement issue. And there is nothing to indicate that they are.
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Post by B on Jun 15, 2009 23:46:34 GMT -5
I never said there was no illuminati, someotherguy. Dark Horse wrote: "Why isn't there?"Because the 'satanic Illuminati', if they exist as such, work on the "Blue Meanie" side of things. If nothing else, the Beatles were, as nearly as I can tell, messengers working against that group. The ones that "don't like him - the fool", are the reptilians, who could "see what he wants to do", which is: to evict them from their positions of power. ("The fool" is, for all intents and purposes, God's son disguised as a fool in that song, imo.) The Beatle music was a device to awaken their listeners to guidance from God. Internal guidance. All of the Beatles songs, all their albums - every one - were intended to undermine any 'satanic Illuminati' plans to subvert humanity, imo. I hasten to add that I don't think that Beatle songs were intended to be the only means by which the reptilians would be overcome. Rather, they were simply a message to a somulant populace. "I Want To Hold Your Hand" was (I know this sounds funny) addressed to listeners as if from Christ. "She Loves You" is the word about Mary. Or Isis, or whoever you fancy the feminine side of God to be. And it goes on from there. Religion from Jesus to Paul. You Want A Friend You- Can Rely On One Who Will Never Fade Away And If You're Searching For An Answer Stick Around. I Say and on, and on, and on. Especially from Faul. Ecce Cor Meum Rinse the raindrops from your head Wipe your eyes; Go back to bed In the morning Skies'll clear And I'll be hereSee the sunlight Break the ice For the birds of paradise Listen to the song they sing Awakening ----------- Just my opinion, I suppose, but it seems almost laughably obvious in hindsight.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 15, 2009 23:51:04 GMT -5
I think someotherguy was talking about the Illuminati being behind the killing of Paul, not that the Beatles were satanists themselves.
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Post by B on Jun 15, 2009 23:55:21 GMT -5
OK, I wasn't thinking of it in those terms.
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Post by someotherguy on Jun 16, 2009 0:23:08 GMT -5
Oh, really? We totally disagree on that. The Illuminati theory explaining what happened to Paul is the one that makes the most sense, IMO.
I couldn't agree w/ you more on this, Letter B.
Again, I agree w/ you on this. I also think that recognizing PID is a trigger for (at least) some people to wake up.
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Post by Red Lion on Jun 16, 2009 0:53:03 GMT -5
The Illuminati theory explaining what happened to Paul is the one that makes the most sense
It's a theory backed up by a donut hole.
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Post by B on Jun 16, 2009 1:05:51 GMT -5
I'm not aware of the particulars of "the Illuminati theory explaining what happened to Paul". Perhaps someotherguy could give a brief account.
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Post by someotherguy on Jun 16, 2009 1:32:32 GMT -5
What's your theory, then?
Letter B, the Illuminati-theory to which I'm referring is the one that goes a little something like this:
The Illuminati use celebrities to further their NWO agenda. Celebrities who do not play ball are disposed of. A popular celebrity could be replaced w/ a double, who will take that person's identity. Now, the "new" celebrity can be used to further the Illuminati's agenda. Most people will never notice the difference & can be easily manipulated by their "heroes."
Paul, a popular celebrity, died or was killed, was replaced by the Illuminati, which then proceeded to use Faul to advance their agenda, particularly w/ respect to drug use (LSD, for ex).
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Post by Red Lion on Jun 16, 2009 3:11:22 GMT -5
What's your theory, then?
Paul was replaced, that is what we know. There is at best anecdotal evidence of death, which hardly proves anything. Furthermore, there is zero evidence that he was killed/murdered or that the "nati" were involved. Your theory is highly contrived.
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 16, 2009 5:38:18 GMT -5
The discussion is unlikely to get ugly as long as you are involved, pp. You seem to have a level head and I think everyone respects you. Thanks jarv, I'd like to think most of us do. "I Want To Hold Your Hand" was (I know this sounds funny) addressed to listeners as if from Christ. "She Loves You" is the word about Mary. Or Isis, or whoever you fancy the feminine side of God to be. And it goes on from there. Religion from Jesus to Paul. Yes but do you remember the guy at TKIN (John was it?) who believed that the Beatles were messengers from satan? I recall him being on some radio show talking about it and him saying that "Run For Your Life" was written from the devil's POV. Not that much of a stretch if you ask me, however I hasten to add that I don't agree.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jun 16, 2009 7:54:27 GMT -5
I really think people are just missing the satanic Illuminati connection Read reply #150...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jun 16, 2009 8:14:30 GMT -5
someotherguy said:
"I think someotherguy was talking about the Illuminati being behind the killing of Paul, not that the Beatles were satanists themselves."Then, Letter B said: OK, I wasn't thinking of it in those terms. B, That's part of what I outlined in reply #150, and reply #108. I talked about the possibility that the Illuminati "took care of" John and Paul, in order to keep them from giving away the store, so to speak. I proposed that the Luciferian Illuminati elite were behind whatever happened (murder/replacement/magickal soul swap, etc) and that their goal, as always, has been to keep the true answers from reaching the public.
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Post by 8749 on Jun 16, 2009 17:45:30 GMT -5
Paul McCartney is/was a living, breathing human being and can never be a theological argument. If we rely on song clues, offhand comments, and--what internet talk is called--chatter to get to the truth, we will never get to it. I am in it for the truth. I realize that is likely to contain some nastiness connected with it. There is big money and secrecy to contend with, but to be punkish: SO? If you see the Beatles as more than four young men with talent, drive, and a will to get out of Liverpool, then you will try to build a cult or religion around them, and that would be unfortunate. And as for the illuminati, WHO is the illuminati? Does someone have names? My sense of what happened is that there were individuals in the British government and "others" who wanted to milk the Beatles for all they were worth--they were very good for the English balance of trade. I think there were people at EMI who could have been connected with it. I think the truth WILL get out and I want a hand in doing it. And it is fun clue hunting. Since many more people believe the bull than the truth, the more evidence that can be piled up, the more it will sway people toward the truth, and toward looking for it themselves.
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Post by B on Jun 16, 2009 18:54:20 GMT -5
8749 wrote: "Paul McCartney is/was a living, breathing human being and can never be a theological argument. If we rely on song clues, offhand comments, and--what internet talk is called--chatter to get to the truth, we will never get to it. I am in it for the truth."
Why can't it be both? Why shouldn't the truth of what happened to Paul McCartney be able to be revealed in song clues, offhand comments, and 'chatter'? The Beatles themselves set the precedent of including clues on their album covers and in their songs, afterall. Or rather I should say: they and those around them did. What reason might there be that the truth about Paul McCartney couldn't be revealed in a theological context? I contend that that is exactly where it is to be found, amidst the clues, chatter, music, and now video releases from those who might be in a position to know. I would dare say even, that it has already been found there, but it is so outrageous that it all but defies acceptance and quick comprehension. I struggle on a daily basis to address what I believe I see of it. Of course, if it is a body you are seeking, I'd say it has long since disappeared, or, as you have already pointed out, the search may be premature. No need for a premature burial, I say. Paul's father and brother seemed to have had no problem accepting Faul into the family. That is worth some consideration. And if the lyrics on the back of the White Album poster were marked with crosses, as if the songs were part of a hymnal, who am I to argue? On with the show!
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Post by 8749 on Jun 17, 2009 17:30:07 GMT -5
I look at internet sites about the Beatles, Letter B, and, overwhelmingly, people believe Sir Paul is Paul. I think there's enough evidence on this board to prove that Paul was replaced but as long as there isn't hard proof--documents, something--most people will believe the lies. If you mean that "circumstancial evidence" is the theological argument, then I took it wrong. I thought you were talking about the metaphysical, cosmic stuff. England has a FOIA law that I have been studying and if we could pin down Paul in time and place and circumstance, we could start pushing the British government to be more forthcoming about the past (and possible present) whereabouts of Paul. If we need "practice" at using the English FOIA, I was thinking that requesting information about Tara Browne's accident might be a good place to start. I have the book, The Beatles London, and in it, they have a description of the accident. It was in the SW 10 London postal code, in West Brompton, Redcliffe Gardens at Redcliffe Square. They said the accident happened shortly after 1 AM on December 18, 1966 We can get the London Police to pull and copy the file through an FOIA request. Or it could be in the National Archives. Is anyone game?
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Post by B on Jun 17, 2009 17:47:21 GMT -5
Well more power to people such as yourself who are familiar with where to look for such documentation. I know that in The Rotten Apple 43 video, for example, iamaphoney asks the question "Why don't you look at the signature on the check sent to Terry Knight from Paul McCartney?", and the fact is: I wouldn't even begin to know where to start looking for such a thing. Nor would I be able to locate almost most any British government form, or other document for that matter, so I tend to go with what I see on album covers and in songs, etc. but for those who would know where to look, I say have at it! There's no telling what you might find.
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Post by 8749 on Jun 17, 2009 17:53:53 GMT -5
I might try. And guess what, Jude? I'm looking at PubMed listings under "gypsies" to see if I can find a link between gypsy genetic diseases and Faul's health problems. Nyeh, nyeh.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 17, 2009 19:54:26 GMT -5
Seeing what you could find out about Tara Browne's accident from the accident report vs. the stuff that made it into the papers.. Fantastic idea! That is if they let you have it, but hey.. Why not?
I know that all the details in a serious incident involving the police often doesn't make it into the papers.. I have a friend in the local P.D. that told me about a recent incident that had a key detail been released, the way the police handled it would not be so favorably viewed. Further, I'm sure a reporter or two knows the truth as well, but were asked to keep quiet.. (or just knew better) That's how things work in the real world, sorry to say.
Maybe after all these years, if there are things involving the accident that are in the report and are a bit sensitive, the parties involved are retired or passed on, so the request may just breeze through.. Give it a try.
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Post by jarvitronics on Jun 17, 2009 22:07:46 GMT -5
That's how things work in the real world, sorry to say. The day I figured that out is the day that a whole bunch of otherwise confusing stuff began to make sense. -j
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Post by 8749 on Jun 18, 2009 18:32:16 GMT -5
I did have the correct date. And the book goes into detail about the accident, so they probably had the report. It says that a Volkswagen pulled out from a side street and Tara Browne swerved to take the impact and his Lotus slammed into a stationary van. By swerving, he saved the life of his girlfriend--Suki Poitier. In Mike McCartney's book, The Macs, he also has a description of the accident, so the information is out there. It will take some time, but I will get the report.
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Post by B on Jun 18, 2009 19:09:02 GMT -5
Makes for some interesting speculation if Paul might have been the Volkswagen driver then.
he blew his mind out in a car he didn't notice that the lights had changed
It's just a thought; I have no evidence whatsoever. But on the Abbey Road cover, one might perceive it as: the driver of the Volkswagen (Paul, disheveled) is being taken to a police station (where the police van is) after having been in an accident. He is preceded by God (John) and his lawyer (Ringo), and followed by the grave digger George (suggesting he may have killed someone in the accident). John, as God, could represent God's judgement on Paul for causing the accident, with Ringo, as his lawyer, representing mitigating circumstances.
Now before anyone gets mad at me for posting this, I am just running this by everyone as one way to look at it; not saying that this is the official interpretation in any way. A passing thought upon reading the post above, that's all. I'm not trying to diminish the seriousness of your posts, 8749. ;D
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Post by B on Jun 19, 2009 15:14:34 GMT -5
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 22, 2009 19:05:20 GMT -5
Makes for some interesting speculation if Paul might have been the Volkswagen driver then. he blew his mind out in a carOr it could mean he was shot...a much better way to insure a successful murder than a manipulated car wreck.
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Post by someotherguy on Jun 22, 2009 19:39:11 GMT -5
+1. A staged car crash is possible.
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