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Post by Doc on Oct 25, 2009 7:20:25 GMT -5
OK, I'm not drunk or hungover; I had an epiphany about words last night and I just had to share. It all started with an innocent comment someone I know made about "ketchup."
A "word" is just a lens in which we capture the image of concepts and ideas in order to illuminate them to others, or store them in text and in sound for the future. Words are dynamic, elastic snapshots (to one degree or another). We can "iris in" and "iris out" on a word, or a trade name, any nominative, any action word, any descriptive or connective word, to refine our meaning and make crisp the picture in our minds that we intend to share with others.
I have a lot more to say about this. A lot more.
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Post by iameye on Oct 25, 2009 12:23:35 GMT -5
OK, I'm not drunk or hungover; I had an epiphany about words last night and I just had to share. It all started with an innocent comment someone I know made about "ketchup." A "word" is just a lens in which we capture the image of concepts and ideas in order to illuminate them to others, or store them in text and in sound for the future. Words are dynamic, elastic snapshots (to one degree or another). We can "iris in" and "iris out" on a word, or a trade name, any nominative, any action word, any descriptive or connective word, to refine our meaning and make crisp the picture in our minds that we intend to share with others. I have a lot more to say about this. A lot more. Cool. Can't wait!
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Post by Doc on Oct 31, 2009 4:41:58 GMT -5
It all stems from te night that my good friend, and Colleague, I shall call him Greg Packard*, said to me, in mocking tones about his mother (whom he did love), he said, "My mother was no kind of cook. She knew nothing about proper food prepartion, God rest her soul. Do you know what she once said to me, she said, "My favorite sauce----is (now wait for it) ..."My favorite sauce is....." You know what's coming. ..."My favorite sauce...is......KETCHUP!" And she covered a perfectly delicious breast of chicken--in KETCHUP! My friend was so appalled. I was too. She should have used Heinz Barbecue Sauce! But that's another day... And Greg said, "Ketchup ISN'T a sauce!" I thought about it a while, but in a way, he was wrong. Technically, by definition, ketchup is, and always HAS been, a sauce. answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090831125103AAlHxs3www.answers.com/topic/sauceWhere the hell did ketchup, or catsup, come from? www.diffen.com/difference/Catsup_vs_Ketchupwww.thenibble.com/reviews/MAIN/condiments/ketchup/ketchup-roundup.aspwww.inmamaskitchen.com/FOOD_IS_ART/cliff/ketchup.htmlOK, it was Chinese or Malaysian sour fish sauce, runny, and it came to Europe 500 years ago, and gradually morphed into the product it is today, by stages, and became more or less standardized as a commercial product of great popularity. So, when is it NOT a sauce?
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Post by Doc on Oct 31, 2009 21:57:37 GMT -5
My conclusion, is that the word "sauce" has the scope of applying to "ketchup" (however it is spelled). But to my friend, Greg Packard*, it does not! He rejects the idea out of hand. I found a couple of possible reasons on the net. First of all, the French chefs, for example, have some traditions in their culinary arts. They make sauces from scratch in the kitchen. For over 300 years, they have utilized four, and later five, distinct basic sauce preparations, from which all other sauces are made. They are the base sauces, the mother sauces, sauce grandes. from: freeculinaryschool.com/the-five-french-mother-sauces-the-mother-of-all-resources/and further: whatscookingamerica.net/History/SauceHistory.htmSo, for these experts, and for persons like my friend Greg who has higher aesthetics than other people, perhaps, contemporary commercial Ketchup is a food product in low regard! The other idea is that, not only does Ketchup fail to merit inclusion as a Sauce Tomat, but it fails in that it comes from a bottle! It's a mere condiment! Well, and truth is, ketchup fails as a sauce for my friend also because it has an overwhelming pungency and sweetness that, rather than enhancing the dish it is served on, it obliterates whatever good flavor the dish has. It's vulgar, lacking in subtlety, and pedestrian. A true sauce elevates a dish by it's nuance; a condiment grabs your taste buds like a Saturday Night hooker on crack. His words, not mine. He's a person of highbrow tastes. So, the person we are effects the way we choose our words. (Not too mention the intonation, but that's another story.) Our personal vocabulary is shaped and molded by our beliefs and prejudices. *Greg Packard, not his real name.
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Apr 2, 2011 15:08:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Apr 4, 2011 12:44:19 GMT -5
More fun with words... I was looking in the dictinary and found this word: TARADIDDLE ;D taradiddle(tar·a·did·dle) Syllabification: /ˈtarəˌdidl, / (also tarradiddle) noun informal , chiefly British a petty lie. pretentious nonsense. Origin: late 18th century: perhaps related to diddleoxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_us1297096#m_en_us1297096
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