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Post by Mellow Yellow on Nov 22, 2007 1:23:40 GMT -5
Personally? No. I wanted to for a long time, but I think he's too good to be true, honestly. His ultimate goal is to have the "free market" and basically let the corporations run free with no government regulations. I'd almost trust the government over some giant corporate conglomerate with tentacles all over the planet.
What about Dennis Kucinich? He seems like the Democrat answer to Paul..... Does he also have some darker agenda?
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Post by JoJo on Nov 22, 2007 8:49:31 GMT -5
I don't know, as a practical matter, in spite of the internet push from his supporters which has been impressive, I think his candidacy will accomplish some awareness raising at best. I mentioned his views on the Federal Reserve, in which he calls for it to be removed, and that the govt. go back to coining and printing money, as stated in the constitution. Not such a bad idea, considering the Fed is "printing" (digidollars really) money to the extent that oil producing countries are making serious noises about not using the dollar as their prime currency anymore. The dollar has "value" right now, because allies like Saudi Arabia trade their product in dollars, meaning the dollar is backed by oil. (rather than gold) On another front, countries like China soak up our excess to the tune of 1.5 trillion in U.S. securities, which to their great alarm they see rapidly falling in value.. So, I think Ron Paul sees all these factors leading to a serious economic disaster, and he is the only one who understands why we got here.
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Post by horseloverphat on Nov 22, 2007 9:08:07 GMT -5
Ron Paul is the new Ross Perot....the controlled 'hope' candidate.
its 'Hobson's Choice' again....as per.
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Post by DarkHorse on Nov 22, 2007 12:21:43 GMT -5
Ron Paul is nowhere near Ross Perot. Ross Perot's objective was to split the Republican Party to guarantee Bill Clinton's victory which worked quite well. The reason why Ron Paul is getting so much press these days is because the press is trying to make him look crazy so people won't listen to him. He has been saying stuff like this for years and no-one covered him but now they do.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Nov 26, 2007 0:05:47 GMT -5
If I were an American, I would probably vote for Ron Paul.
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Post by JoJo on Jan 21, 2008 9:40:21 GMT -5
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Post by fireman on Jan 21, 2008 10:05:34 GMT -5
The media has pretty much decided that Hilary and Mitt are going to run against each other.
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Post by B on Jan 21, 2008 11:05:59 GMT -5
But it will be Bloomberg vs Obama.
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Post by That Latvian Guy on Jan 21, 2008 13:16:31 GMT -5
If I were an American, I would probably vote for Ron Paul. If I were an American, I would probably vote for John Edwards.
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Post by fireman on Jan 21, 2008 14:40:32 GMT -5
But it will be Bloomberg vs Obama. Right??? I mean, duh, I can't believe I ever thought differently!
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Post by fireman on Jan 21, 2008 14:44:19 GMT -5
If I were an American, I would probably vote for Ron Paul. If I were an American, I would probably vote for John Edwards. Just curious, but why Edwards?
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Post by iameye on Jan 21, 2008 15:37:47 GMT -5
If I were an American, I would probably vote for John Edwards. Just curious, but why Edwards? He at least outed the Reagan thing.
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Post by That Latvian Guy on Jan 22, 2008 6:36:48 GMT -5
If I were an American, I would probably vote for John Edwards. Just curious, but why Edwards? Republicans have pretty much screwed it all up so I would vote for a Democrat candidate. I watched the Wikipedia article of his political positions and I would say that he is the best candidate.
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Post by blackbird on Jan 23, 2008 15:15:33 GMT -5
This will sound dopey - but what little I've heard from him I like. And the fact that the media is passing him up and also trying to make him look foolish, tells me that this is being done deliberately, like he doesn't have what it takes like Hillary and Obama, or anyone else for that matter. The only way I know anything about him is from his clips on YT (yep, its "fair and balanced" - LOL) I'm a true conspiracy theorist, so I stopped voting when I realized that they would put into office who they wanted to be there. I realize a lot don't agree with this. I respect your reasons. This is just what I believe - for now
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 23, 2008 17:21:41 GMT -5
But it will be Bloomberg vs Obama. Clinton will win and choose Obama as her running mate.
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Post by revolver on Jan 23, 2008 20:17:55 GMT -5
Never trust a man with two first names. Seriously, I'm afraid that a candidate who talks about abolishing the Fed has the odds stacked against him. Allegedly that's what killed Kennedy.
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Post by blackbird on Jan 24, 2008 10:39:15 GMT -5
But it will be Bloomberg vs Obama. Clinton will win and choose Obama as her running mate. I have been thinking it will be Clinton and Obama myself. I said that to my hubby just the other night. I read, tho, that it is the vice president that is really running the show and the president is like the figure head. I wonder how true ? That would put Cheney in charge (actually doing what he is told to do). That actually sounds more fitting, because some of what I see of Bush is just embarassing. Cheney is the more scary character in this - to me.
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Post by B on Jan 24, 2008 11:54:28 GMT -5
Well that certainly is the case in the current administration, but I don't know that I'd say that it's the rule. Usually the VP is the guy that has to go to state funerals that the president doesn't want to. Obama is in a bit of trouble right now, so I don't think he'll be allowed to be president: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYYHillary isn't likely to win Democratic primaries without vote-rigging. People aren't happy with her "pro-war" stance. So I change my prediction, but I don't know who to predict now. Kucinich vs Paul. ;D
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Post by iameye on Jan 24, 2008 12:14:59 GMT -5
that's pretty serious. Is it mainstream "news"?
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Post by B on Jan 31, 2008 15:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by CoconutFudge on Feb 10, 2008 23:49:34 GMT -5
I do not think he can get done what he proposes. I don't agree with a lot of it, but I respect him for putting forth unconventional views in a fresh way. I attended a Daily Show (lovelovelove!) taping on June 4, 2007 for my birthday and he was the guest. Interesting guy.
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Post by B on Feb 11, 2008 0:15:08 GMT -5
Ron Paul's GoodbyeBy Jeff Rense 2-9-8 rense.com/general80/goodbye.htmThe real issue now is that Ron Paul is effectively out of the race ....whether he directly came out and said it or not. In his statement of thanks to his supporters (see below), he also announced he's cutting his staff way back. The message is clear. The last Ron Paul 'money bomb' showed a substantial loss of support momentum...which was/is largely the result of his complete public disassociation and denouncement of the entire 911 Truth Movement during that national 'debate' several weeks ago. That was either a bald-faced, enormous, lie to try to keep himself politically 'alive' ... OR that is HIS truth. Either way, it cost him a lot of support. We know several Ron Paul backers who dropped him at that moment... and it was reflected in the failed, subsequent fundraising. His poor showing (absolutely expected) in the primaries was the final truth his devoted supporters had to swallow: the system is totally owned and operated by the controllers. Period. Many Paulites will now walk away from this obviously, hopelessly corrupt and manipulated political charade in America...and will never look back. Some will stay. Ron announced."I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican"and will not leave the party to run as an independent. (A Paul-Kucinich ticket would have at least been FUN). WHAT Republican party?? That was a lamentable statement to read. Ron must be thinking it is still the Republican Party of the 19th century. The Republican 'party' NOW stands for the BIG LIE, it stands for CRIME and DEATH, for GENOCIDE and PERVERSION, for TAXATION and GRAFT, for the FED and FINANCIAL RAPE, for DOMESTIC SPYING and the PATRIOT ACT, ...it stands for the end of LIBERTY and of our CONSTITUTION. Above all, it now stands for Zionism and WAR. That statement alone probably ended about half of his remaining support. As we said many months ago, if he does NOT run as an independent, he will effectively put 'finis' to the majority of passion and commitment of the small, brave patriotic movement his message and vision created in this rat hole political paradigm. And if the controllers are as smart as we think, they may well have orchestrated much of the 'Ron Paul phenomena' to ultimately send the message, yet again, that 'resistance is futile!' Ron said he needs to go home to Texas and work for his re-election to the House. That's a wise decision because the enemies of freedom and the Constitution, knowing all along he never had a chance in hell of gaining the nomination, will now try to unseat him...and they can do so if it be their will. Ask Cynthia McKinney. So, even though he says he's 'still in the race' it is totally meaningless. Publicly, via his disassociation from 911 Truth, he is 'officially' standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush/Cheney and Zionism on 911. He had a GREAT opportunity to bring 911 Truth forward during the campaign...and chose to hide it. And, God forbid, if he really spoke HIS truth in the debate about the whole 911 issue, he is clearly, totally, disconnected from the biggest reality of our time: that 911 was an inside job. Sad to see him give it up...but it was totally predictable and comes as no surprise. For his die-hard supporters and those who cherish America's nearly vanquished past magnificence, keep at it. Work at the local level...run for office... just know that the clock is ticking and the enemies of Freedom stand all around us and often in between us. Of all the great American political leaders who sacrificed their lives for freedom, Ron chose, instead, to quote the zionist maniac killer Communist Trotsky about the 'revolution being permanent.' A strange choice. The statement could have been made without the need to acknowledge a Bolshevik madman. In any case, the 'Ron Paul Revolution' is over... now just a footnote, an asterisk, in the grim record of these darkening times. Certainly, some will endeavor to carry on his themes...something the CIA/NSA supercomputer models knew and predicted long ago. Ron Paul is a grand anachronism...a principled man out of time, as it were. He truly made a difference. And for that we owe him much. Comment Arthur Topham Dear Reader, Jeff Rense's pithy comments regarding the Ron Paul "revolution" are poignant and timely. They indicate (to me at least) two things: first, the undying spirit of freedom and resistance to the clear and present danger posed by the Zionist forces who have consistently circumvented US policy since the days of Woodrow Wilson and the formation of the privately-owned Jewish banking cartel euphemistically known as the Federal Reserve. That spirit of freedom and independence has withstood close to a century of subterfuge, betrayal, intimidation and blackmail by this small sect of psychopaths and their sell-out sycophants in government. Millions have been sacrificed upon the alter of Mammon to satisfy the insatiable lust of these Pharisee-driven fanatics in their relentless quest to destroy the west's Christian heritage of the past two thousands years and bring in an atheistic, totalitarian, one world dictatorship under the complete domination of the international Zionist-driven, Talmudic banking syndicate. The second thing that comes to mind in reading Rense's piece is that it graphically illustrates the scope and magnitude of the Zionist plotters. Over and over and over again I and so many others have been crying out in the public wilderness of this imminent danger to our basic, inherent freedoms posed by these Zionist elements within the media, government and the military/industrial complex. Their power and their danger is so amazingly pervasive and vast that it continually boggles and confuses the minds of the masses who are still held in mental thralldom to their Zionist-controlled television sets and newspapers. It is here that the greatest threats to the freedom of the people are to be found in the mental mind-control of the masses. Now that Ron Paul has drained off the energies of the last vestiges of the freedom-loving American electorate the electronic ballot boxes, built and controlled by the Zionist Israeli forces embedded within the American machinery of government, will proceed to drive the last spike through the free hearts of the American Republic and usher in another, and possibly a final regime of Zionist-Jew controlled puppets who will fulfill their pre-conceived duty and destroy the freedom of the Internet and along with it the last, ultimate hope of any peaceful, amiable solution to the disaster of the last century of Zionist rule of America. It's a grim prognosis I know but like all the other lesser grim prognoses over the past forty years that I and others have been screaming into the ears of the somnambulant masses glued to their Zio-tubes like mesmerized, mind-controlled automatons, this one may be the final outcry before the fecal matter hits the proverbial fan and like Jim Morrison of theDoors once prophetically remarked, "The whole shit house goes up in flames!". All I can possible add, while I see in my mind's eye the wagons slowly beginning to circle, is that those who are now preoccupied with personal, ego pursuits of whatever nature ought to pause and take a moment to reflect upon what should be their foremost priority during these times and then hopefuly lay down their daily pursuits and consider the coming days ahead and decide where they will stand. Peace & Justice for All, Arthur Topham Pub/Ed The Radical Press Canada's Radical News Network radical@radicalpress.com www.radicalpress.com "Digging to the root of the issues since 1998" Ron Paul - 'There Will Be No Third Party Run'Turns Attention To Keeping His Congressional Seat Message from Ron Paul 2-9-8 "Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron"
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Post by blackbird on Mar 1, 2008 12:10:48 GMT -5
I didn't start out looking for anything on Ron Paul this morning but I did start looking after spotting a couple of YT videos. I found this below on his link to Secret Societies. I'm just putting it here for information. I did vote for him in the primaries but I knew it was a wasted vote. I now have a feeling I was wrong about him. Here is the webpage this is from: fufor.twoday.net/stories/4314770/
Ron Paul's links to Secret Societies posted: Tue, 02 Oct. 2007
The following post is by no means complete, and more research needs to be done to further link Ron Paul to Masonic Secret Societies and the Satanic Agenda.
We've all heard of Bush and Kerry's links to the Skull'n'Bones. This is Ron Paul's story.
Between 1953-57 when Ron Paul (age 18-22) was at Gettysburg College, he was inducted into the "Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity (ΛΧΑ)" where he served as steward and house manager. - So what is this Lambda-Chi-Alpha?
History (my comments in brackets): It was founded on November 2, 1909 when a man called Warren Albert Cole (& Jack Mason?) had a meeting with his first cousin and a more distant relative. Cole previously made some unsuccessful attempts at starting a fraternity, about which we know little more than names: "The Lodge," "Tombs," "Lambda Pi," then it was Lambda Chi Alpha "Loyal Collegiate Associates,". (Just the names themselves are overtly Masonic and throw up warning signs. Just wait until you hear what they get up to!)Early in 1912, Cole wrote to Lewis Drury asking if he was interested in forming a Greek-letter society. Drury was quite interested. Lambda Chi Alpha's first established chapter, Gamma Zeta, was born. On May 25, 1912, Albert Cross took Cole's Johnston badge to William Thegen's Sons at 618 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, just half a block from Independence Hall, and ordered eight pins for the Pennsylvania chapter. Thegen's like Johnston was not known for making fraternity jewelry, but rather - Masonic items and military medals!
During the spring of 1912, a chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha, Epsilon Zeta began at the University of Pennsylvania. By the beginning of 1913, Delta Kappa at Maine was admitted as the seventh chapter. Lambda Chi Alpha was now truly a national fraternity, even though most of its chapters were still very young and not yet well organized. The first real efforts at national solidarity were made at the Second General Assembly, held at the MIT chapter house in Boston, March 22, 1913.
The L.G. Balfour Co., founded by Lloyd G. Balfour in 1913, made the first Lambda Chi Alpha badges for the Cornell University chapter in October of that year.
Jack Mason gave a handwritten letter to Albert Cross containing Mason's vision of the ideals and principles of Lambda Chi Alpha and how they would be expressed. His reason for the adoption of a new Initiation Ritual was based on the following rationale:"The first question is, what should be the highest aim of a college fraternity? The answer is-I think-to have men of sterling character, who are efficient workers along all the lines of human activity (Masonic activity); not students with big, all-around sympathies, who can deliver the goods in whatever activity they take up (in other words, NOT godly men who deliver the goods). In other words we have to preach two doctrines (Doctrines!), the doctrine of work (masonic) and the doctrine of character (satanic); or, if you wish to join the two, the doctrine of mighty energy working toward a high ideal (the kingdom of the devil on earth). Nothing else counts. It makes no difference how pleasant (godly) a chap he is, if he can't do good sincere work (THEIR work) he's not good, and we don't want him for a brother. The people we do take for brothers we want to encourage along these lines all we can."
In addition to the development of a new "Initiation Ritual" (did you say INITIATION and RITUAL!), the 1913 General Assembly saw the adoption of the significance of Zeta and Lambda Chi Alpha and revisions to the coat of arms and badge. In 1939 Theta-Kappa-Nu and Lambda-Chi-Alpha merged with each other. Theta Kappa Nu Fraternity was formed by the union of 11 well-established local fraternities on Jun 9, 1924 in Springfield, Missouri.
Symbols (mostly my commentary: images can be found on wikipedia-Lambda Chi Alpha):
Coat of Arms The most noticeable thing sticking out of the coat of arms is the shining emblem above the Crown, always representing the false light of Lucifer eminating from whatever sign is representing him, which in this case is the crescent in the cross. This is over and behind the Crown, which always represents the self-given right to rule on behalf of lucifer. This is the single most reproduced symbol in all Masonic-Satanic coats & logo's and is seen in governments, royal houses, police, security and unions. Get a load of what the crown is resting on " a knights helmet that looks like a really evil pacman!. LOL!.
The three open mottos, in the ribbons, translated from top to bottom, "Crescent in the Cross," "Naught Without Labor," and "Every Man a Man.". Present on the shild are the crucicrescent (small shield in the middle containing a beast holding up something), the lamp of learning (has some sort of masonic meaning), the clasped hands of brotherhood (openly masonic sign used everywhere nowdays, the three pentagrams-stars signifying something to do with satanism), the scales of justice (signifying masonic justice), as well as the inescutcheon (book?) signifying their merger with Theta Kappa Nu, and the badge of membership below from which sprout vines around the edge (as seen in so many masonic organisations from govt, police & even the UN).
Crescent in the Cross Lambda Chi Alpha espouses 'knightly' ideals to use the crescent as a symbol, thus linking back to Knights Templars and early masonic history. This symbol looks like a cross as seen in org's such as the red-cross (ie. All 4 stems are equal in length) with a moon-crescent entangled in it. It is notable that only Masonic Societies use both the cross and crescent together in their symbology.
Brotherhood Badge The first thing to notice about this badge is the pearl-set crescent with horns turned toward the left, the horns being symbolic of both the moon, and most probably the horns of Lucifer.The horns enclosing a monogram of the Greek letters, 'Lambda, Chi, and Alpha' which is very reminiscent of the compass & square symbol masons use. The center of the crescent bears the Greek letters, 'Delta Pi' on top of each other. Check out the shape of that configuration. Ever seen the photo of Alistair Crowley Holding his wrists up & wearing the triangular hat with the all seeing eye! That's what these symbols look like.The Badge is 'properly' worn over the heart, signifying the complete overshadowing / replacement of the spirit by this organisation.
Associate Member Pin (looks like something out of Babylon-5)It embodies the official badge of Theta Kappa Nu as well as the original pin of Lambda Chi Alpha. The original Lambda Chi Alpha pin was a gothic arch and with the union, this was superimposed upon the triangles composing the official badge of Theta Kappa Nu. consists of the letters lambda, chi, and alpha formed into a Gothic arch superimposed over four triangles (another symbolic union of Lambda Chi Alpha and Theta Kappa Nu).
I heavily suspect that all the buildings the fraternity uses are Masonic Temples where their rites, rituals, initiations and other secret goings on are 'practiced'.
Their Creed (comments inserted): We believe in Lambda Chi Alpha (not the most high God?), and its traditions, principles and ideals (what?). The crescent is our symbol (heh!); pure, high ever growing (?!), and the cross is our guide; denoting service, sacrifice (what to!), and even suffering and humiliation (typical!) before the world (before-the-WORLD), bravely endured if need be (gotta be brave to do that!), in following that ideal.May we have faith in Lambda Chi Alpha (you mean satan) and passion for its welfare (passionate devils!). May we have hope for the future of Lambda Chi Alpha (what future?) and strength to fight for its teachings (not the Word). May we have pure hearts (pure=black), that we may approach the ideal of perfect brotherly love (the love=hate of their own brotherhood).
Some of their Expectations: I will know and understand the ideals expressed by my Fraternity's rituals (there's that word again) and will strive to incorporate these ideals in my daily life.I will respect and abide by all Fraternity laws, regulations, and policies (NOT the LAWS of GOD!).I will strive to bring into the Fraternity any man who would benefit from an enriching fraternal experience and who would strengthen the Fraternity (recruitment).I will at all times conduct myself as a gentleman and as a responsible citizen and will hold members accountable for their conduct (Pretend to be a decent human being & Punish those who speak out!).
A published letter states "Most campus Greek Letter organizations are secret." Their rituals, passwords, signs and oaths are SECRET. Members are expected to keep the secrets of the fraternity and the personal secrets any brothers decide to share or that members learn. They are a secret society! They have 'Officers' and even a 'Big Brother' LOL!.
The following is an excerpt from a webpage Exposing Greek Letter Organisations (GLO's):
Lambda Chi Alpha's Ritual was a great catch. It has a wealth of condemning material. Here is just a touch showing unequal yoking for any member professing Christ. It also makes another striking analogy. If the bond is eternal and just one brother goes to hell, then they all go. But of course, it is assumed that all LXA's are Christian men: "EXPLANATION OF SYMBOLS AND MOTTOS A: Know then that the Bond of our Brotherhood is an eternal union between its members. The greek phrase of Zeugma Adelphotetos Christianikes, or Bond of Chirstian Brotherhood. Henceforth you are one in spirit with every brother of the fraternity." (Ritual of Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity, pp. 103-104, 1987)Another ritual practice of Lambda Chi Alpha is CIRCUMAMBULATION. This is a common practice is found in the initiation of WITCHES and is practiced in FREEMASONRY. How can a Christian be ONE in the SPIRIT with an unsaved person and an UNGODLY organization? An Organization founded upon Christian principles would never say such garbage. Fraternities, sororities, masons, eastern stars, etc. Your 50-200 years of secrecy/concealment is over!!! It is better to be exposed now than at the great white throne of judgement! Perhaps you will denounce and repent. I made a vow to God that if more members are acquired by GLO's, it will not be because of ignorance and deception. All people who read Coming Apart at the Seams will know exactly what they are getting themselves into, and have no excuse of ignorance or deception, but will be in unbelief.
Genealogy of Ron Paul: Ron Paul married Carol Welles on Feb 1, 1957 and have 5 children, Ronnie, Lori, Rand, Robert & Joy Paul. They have at least 18 grandchildren.
Ancestry of Ron Paul 1 Ronald Ernest ("Ron") Paul, MD, b. Pittsburgh, Pa., 20 Aug. 1935, US Representative from Texas 1976-1977, 1979-1985, 1997-current
PARENTS 2 Howard Caspar Paul, b. Pittsburgh, Pa., 19 Aug. 1904, d. 23 May 1997 [SSDI 192-05-2326] m. 23 Oct. 1929 3 Margaret Dumont, b. , Pa., 7 March 1908, d. 10 July 2001 [SSDI 183-26-5400]
GRANDPARENTS 4 Caspar Paul, b. Hohenzell, Schluchtern, PreuÃ., 3 Aug. 1866, d. [living 1930] m. 4 May 1899 5 Sophia Ziegler, b. , Pa., 15 Sept. 1874, d. 22 Feb. 1964 6 Joseph Dumont, b. , Pa., [ca. 1884], d. [living 1930] m. [ca. 1907] 7 Lena , b. , Pa., [ca. 1884], d. [living 1930]
GREAT-GRANDPARENTS 10 Johann Georg Ziegler, b. Kressenbach, Hessen, 15 Nov. 1844, d. Greentree, Pa., 17 Sept. 1922 m. Washington Co., Pa., 1870 11 Gertrude Herche, b. Wallroth, Hessen-Darmstadt, 4 May 1847, d. Cecil, Pa., 7 Sept. 1924 12 Joseph G Dumont, b. , N. Y., [ca. 1862], d. [living 1910] m. [ca. 1883] 13 Margaret , b. , N. Y., [ca. 1862], d. [living 1910]
GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS 22 Wilhelm Herche, b. Wallroth, Hessen-Darmstadt, 22 Jan. 1809, d. Wallroth, Hessen-Darmstadt, 25 July 1878 m. 17 May 1833 23 Gertrauda Jockel, b. Wallroth, Hessen-Darmstadt, 7 May 1813, d.
This was a rather hasty putting together of info edited from several sources including wikipedia, the Lambda chi alpha website, and other websites found using google searches. It's not meant to be a proper article, just some info to get out there to spark some interest in researching Ron Paul's hidden history. Someone though should write up a proper article. While much has been written about various members of US leadership's Hidden secrets, virtually nothing seems to exist about Ron Paul. If only people like Alex Jones and many other key supporters could get this info, it might just start to open their eyes a bit.
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Post by FAUllibLE on Mar 2, 2008 2:29:44 GMT -5
I didn't start out looking for anything on Ron Paul this morning but I did start looking after spotting a couple of YT videos. I found this below on his link to Secret Societies. I'm just putting it here for information. I did vote for him in the primaries but I knew it was a wasted vote. I now have a feeling I was wrong about him. Here is the webpage this is from: fufor.twoday.net/stories/4314770/Yes I have read similar articles about Ron Paul and have seen videos of him throwing up the hook em horns. Is he simply just appeasement? If not then what purpose did he serve? I don't regret voting for him because to me he was only chance in hell of stopping the blood bath overseas. Was he for real? I don't know. I was really voting for the ending of blood shed. I thought he represented that and I did my best. I can't stop it alone. I did what I could do. I think he opened alot of eyes to the NWO's agenda, and that can't be bad. He claims to be a Christian, but hey, what real politician doesn't. To me it was the message not the man. Its a wonder he's still alive.
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Post by blackbird on Mar 2, 2008 8:55:47 GMT -5
FAULLIBLE SAID: I don't regret voting for him because to me he was only chance in hell of stopping the blood bath overseas.
That was the reason I voted for him, too. There were a few other reason, simply because of things that I heard him say.
Thanks for the feedback.
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