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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jun 8, 2010 10:02:46 GMT -5
Did Paul McCartney Actually Die in 1966?Jun 7, 2010 Paul McCartney has his 68th birthday coming up on June 18th. Or does he? MVD Visual announces the release of a film from Highway 61 Entertainment: PAUL McCartney Really Is Dead, The Last Testament of George Harrison for North American distribution on September 1, 2010. The following description of the film is provided by director Joel Gilbert of Highway 61 Entertainment: "In the summer of 2005, a package arrived at the Hollywood offices of Highway 61 Entertainment from London with no return address. Inside were two mini-cassette audio tapes dated December 30, 1999 and labeled 'The Last Testament of George Harrison.' A voice identical to Harrison tells a shocking story: Paul McCartney was killed in a car crash in November of 1966 and replaced with a double! British intelligence, MI5, had forced the Beatles to cover up McCartney's death to prevent mass suicides of Beatle fans. However, the remaining Beatles tried to signal fans with clues on album covers and in songs. Until now, the "Paul is Dead" mystery that exploded worldwide in 1969 was considered a hoax. However, in this film, George Harrison reveals a secret Beatles history, chronicling McCartney's fatal accident, the cover up, dozens of unknown clues, and a dangerous cat and mouse game with 'Maxwell,' the Beatles' MI5 handler, as John Lennon became increasingly reckless with the secret. Harrison also insists that Lennon was assassinated in 1980 after he threatened to finally expose 'Paul McCartney' as an impostor. "Highway 61 Entertainment has corroborated most of George Harrison's stunning account of the conspiracy to hide McCartney's tragic death. Harrison's complete audio tapes narrate this film that includes all the newly unearthed evidence. The Last Testament of George Harrison may prove to be the most important document in rock and roll history, leaving little doubt that Paul McCartney is really dead." www.guitarworld.com/article/did_paul_mccartney_actually_die_in_1966
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Post by B on Jun 8, 2010 13:47:08 GMT -5
Holy 60IF/TKIN, Batperson!
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 8, 2010 15:37:56 GMT -5
OK, so I am a little disappointed that when i watched the clip, this "voice identical to Harrison" was far from it. It sounds a bit contrived to me - The accent (I'm not even convinced that the voice belongs to a real scouser) and the way it is being told like a narrative rather than a factual account.
However, I was really excited when I saw this and would love to see it all. If nothing else it could open a few more eyes and ears.
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Post by iameye on Jun 8, 2010 18:20:39 GMT -5
www.paulreallyisdead.com/Joel Gilbert en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_GilbertJoel Gilbert (from Oak Ridge, Tennessee, born on April 15, 1964) is an American film director, writer, and musician. Through his production company, Highway 61 Entertainment, Gilbert directed and produced four documentary feature films on Bob Dylan’s music and career, including Bob Dylan World Tour 1966, The Home Movies, and Bob Dylan 1975-1981: Rolling Thunder and The Gospel Years. Gilbert appears in his films as interviewer, and performs on the film soundtracks. In 2007, Gilbert released a controversial political documentary called Farewell Israel: Bush, Iran and the Revolt of Islam, a history of Islamic-Jewish relations from the 7th Century to today. Gilbert's 2009 film was Bob Dylan Never Ending Tour Diaries: Drummer Winston Watson's Incredible Journey. His February 23, 2010 release entitled Atomic Jihad: Ahmadinejad's Coming War for Islamic Revival and Obama's Politics of Defeat was featured at the CPAC Conference in Washington D.C. and was a winning film at the Hudson Institute Film Festival in New York City on may 31, 2010. Gilbert's newest release is Paul McCartney Really Is Dead: The Last Testament of George Harrison, due out September 1, 2010, which is narrated by secret audio tapes purported to have been made by George Harrison himself.
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Post by B on Jun 9, 2010 8:42:57 GMT -5
Apparently the movie is pretty lame, according to one review of it posted at PID Miss him. Same old story: Paul died in a car crash, but some of the 'deeper issues' are not addressed. I found pentothal®'s comments interesting. (I believe pentothal® is GN here.) They are as follows: "...Two years later the first publication of 60IF ( June 18th 2002 ) a guy claimed to be the "author" of 60IF showing some floppy disks. Me and all who directly knows me had a great laugh. Now at today's OUR level of knowing about all the matter it might be "better" for THEM to tell that the "old" story was COMPLETELY true. *But the "old story" was just the beginning to search for the complete truth. All this matter was made NOT to make money. It was done to find the Truth." ---------------- * translation: It might be better for the old 'Paul died in a car crash' story to pass for the truth for the people who are behind Paul's replacement, than for the people to discern the entire story, which may involve some unsavory facts, and possibly a much bigger story.
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Post by B on Jun 9, 2010 9:01:07 GMT -5
Admin, Can this thread be moved to a different location where it won't disappear under an oil slick of regular news?
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Post by JoJo on Jun 11, 2010 16:23:13 GMT -5
Yeah, it is more a topic for General.
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Post by B on Jun 11, 2010 21:15:55 GMT -5
Thanks JoJo. (Hey, guess where I am tonight. )
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Post by iameye on Jun 12, 2010 12:47:49 GMT -5
Thanks JoJo. (Hey, guess where I am tonight. ) where?
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Post by B on Jun 12, 2010 15:14:37 GMT -5
Oh, that was for JoJo. ;D I'm just down the road a piece from him, in Portsmouth, NH.
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Post by GN on Jun 12, 2010 15:21:52 GMT -5
Apparently the movie is pretty lame, according to one review of it posted at PID Miss him. Same old story: Paul died in a car crash, but some of the 'deeper issues' are not addressed. I found pentothal®'s comments interesting. (I believe pentothal® is GN here.) They are as follows: "...Two years later the first publication of 60IF ( June 18th 2002 ) a guy claimed to be the "author" of 60IF showing some floppy disks. Me and all who directly knows me had a great laugh. Now at today's OUR level of knowing about all the matter it might be "better" for THEM to tell that the "old" story was COMPLETELY true. *But the "old story" was just the beginning to search for the complete truth. All this matter was made NOT to make money. It was done to find the Truth." ---------------- * translation: It might be better for the old 'Paul died in a car crash' story to pass for the truth for the people who are behind Paul's replacement, than for the people to discern the entire story, which may involve some unsavory facts, and possibly a much bigger story. Thanks Letter B
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Post by orgonguy on Jun 13, 2010 19:07:20 GMT -5
yeah i ordered it... I have heard about these "George" tapes for awhile and thought if anything it would be fun to watch
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Post by JoJo on Jun 13, 2010 21:29:29 GMT -5
"A voice identical to Harrison"...
Well, there's his disclaimer, knew I'd find one. How much you wanna bet the DVD itself will have a long, LONG disclaimer on the cover, vetted by lawyers..
But oh well, not to say it won't be entertaining, I ordered it too. But really, someone took the 60IF ball and ran with it, seems like.. I'm just jealous that I didn't think of it! ;D
"...Two years later the first publication of 60IF ( June 18th 2002 ) a guy claimed to be the "author" of 60IF showing some floppy disks. Me and all who directly knows me had a great laugh.
I remember that guy, he claimed to have posted it on a Usenet newsgroup, and I did do a search on that. Couldn't find a thing, and he never said which newsgroup he posted on.. Seems like you would remember.
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Post by FP on Jun 13, 2010 22:05:09 GMT -5
Isaac Phaire?
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Post by JoJo on Jun 14, 2010 20:42:27 GMT -5
Yeah that's the one. If you're gonna say you put that out there in a specific place, back it up with a way of tracking it down, as all usenet posts are indelibly time stamped.. The pictures of his floppy disks were not too impressive. Back to the DVD, it occurs to me that with a party who is deceased, false claims are hard if not impossible to disclaim. (I'm speaking generally, not about this DVD, my own little disclaimer, thankyouverymuch)
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Post by The Deceptionist on Jun 15, 2010 6:23:51 GMT -5
damn... i got really excited when i started reading this. right up until watching the video with "george's" voice over. to be fair, i don't know if i have heard much of what George sounded like ca. 1999, but going by the anthology clips (1995) it was fairly similar to how he had always sounded - only slightly huskier. therefore, i doubt his pronunciation of specific words would change too much. the word that tipped the scales for me was his 'but', which in the video was pronounced 'boot'. no way. in my mind george's pronunciation of 'but' would be 'buh' with either a dropped or hesitant 'T' (buh-T) ... certainly not 'boot' ... in fact i don't think 'boot' is how any northerner would pronounce it (b-oo-k, l-oo-k and c-oo-k perhaps, but never b-oo-t) leading me to agree with PP in assuming it is a non-scouse, perhaps non northern, maybe even non british impersonation - possibly american. but i guess we will have to wait and see...
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Post by The Deceptionist on Jun 15, 2010 6:27:41 GMT -5
will be interesting to see how "george's" voice print compares to the real article on a voice comparison spectrograph (sp?)
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Post by B on Jun 15, 2010 13:28:14 GMT -5
FP wrote: Isaac Phaire?All Liz Phaire in love and deceit.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jun 15, 2010 16:06:11 GMT -5
Martin Scorsese’s Documentary LIVING IN THE MATERIAL WORD: GEORGE HARRISON Being Shopped Around at CannesBeatle mania is far from over. With the recent John Lennon biopic Nowhere Boy released last year, George Harrison was next in line. Oscar winning director Martin Scorsese pulled double duty, filming both Living in the Material World: George Harrison and Shutter Island at the same time. Now, according to Variety, Scorsese and George’s widow Olivia Harrison are helping promote the film as Exclusive, which holds worldwide distribution rights, is shopping the film at Cannes. Scorsese has delved into rock docs in the past, and this particular one struck a personal chord with the director as he relates to the late George Harrison. Harrison gave Scorsese exclusive access to the musician’s materials, some of which have never been seen by the public. For more on the documentary, and Scorsese’s own rock ‘n’ roll history, hit the jump. martin-scorseseThe director related to the musician’s spiritual journey, which he found fascinating, and the search for a balance between the spiritual and the physical helped lead to the title of the doc. “I grew up a Roman Catholic and wanted to become a priest, so it is a subject matter that has never left me,” Scorsese told Variety. “The more you’re in the material world, the more the search for serenity.” The film will reveal notes, cassette tapes, and photos, including never released footage of the guitarist’s life, covering his days with the Beatles to his death in 2001. Additionally, we will hear from some of the songwriter’s closest friends, including Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Eric Clapton, Eric Idle, Tom Petty, Yoko Ono, and Phil Spector. Scorsese has covered a number of rock icons in the past, including the Band (1978’s The Last Waltz), Bob Dylan (2005’s No Direction Home: Bob Dylan), and the Rolling Stones (2008’s Shine a Light). In fact, Scorsese filmed No Direction Home at the same time as The Aviator, and it appears he might have found a perfect mix in filming live action simultaneously with a non-fiction work. “In a complicated way, it frees me from the constrictions of a feature, Scorsese told Variety. “I have a narrative freedom.” The film is currently in the editing bay with David Tedeschi, who also worked on No Direction Home and Shine a Light. Living in the Material World is a joint production between Scorsese’s Sikelia Productions, Olivia Harrison’s Grove Street Productions, and Exclusive’s Spitfire Pictures. Here is to hoping the sun shines brightly on the picture. www.collider.com/2010/05/15/martin-scorsese-living-in-the-material-world-george-harrison-documentary-cannes-shopped-around/www.imdb.com/title/tt1113829/
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Post by JoJo on Jun 16, 2010 17:38:02 GMT -5
I got it today, I'll say this for Highway 61, they are fast.
But oh boy... About the George Harrison voice and whether it was "authentic", the narrator claimed to have subjected it to multiple analysis from "forensic experts" and the results were "inconclusive". OK, dodged that bullet. But for me, and while I'm not an expert on English accents like Plastic Paul, there is no way this is George, for reasons discussed above for one, for two it just sounds like a semi-bad imitation. The actors who played the Beatles in the Yellow Submarine made the same mistake.. Trying too hard with the Scouse imitation.
Another problem is obvious, a mini recorder produces pretty crappy sound, the George voice sounds like it was recorded through professional equipment, or at the very least at a much higher tape speed than a mini cassette recorder.
Another big problem, the casual indifference to Beatle history, stuff even the most indifferent Beatle fan should know. Almost everyone here I'm sure knows Abbey road was recorded after Let It Be, not this movie. Another one, after the "Paul Is Dead" story broke in 1969, the movie claims that John was so afraid of MI5 thugs that he decided to divorce Cynthia.. Cmon now...
This movie will perhaps open some eyes as was said, but I think anyone who has been involved with this forum and especially TKIN for the past few years will know where this story came from.. Chapter and verse from the old 60IF story, with a dash of Rotten Apple. Even used that line about the dead Paul "looking like a Walrus", lol.
Fairly cheap entertainment, and I don't want to discourage anyone, but it is what it is..
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Post by ramone on Jun 18, 2010 15:09:37 GMT -5
I got it today, I'll say this for Highway 61, they are fast. But oh boy... About the George Harrison voice and whether it was "authentic", the narrator claimed to have subjected it to multiple analysis from "forensic experts" and the results were "inconclusive". OK, dodged that bullet. But for me, and while I'm not an expert on English accents like Plastic Paul, there is no way this is George, for reasons discussed above for one, for two it just sounds like a semi-bad imitation. The actors who played the Beatles in the Yellow Submarine made the same mistake.. Trying to hard with the Scouse imitation. Another problem is obvious, a mini recorder produces pretty crappy sound, the George voice sounds like it was recorded through professional equipment, or at the very least at a much higher tape speed than a mini cassette recorder. Another big problem, the casual indifference to Beatle history, stuff even the most indifferent Beatle fan should know. Almost everyone here I'm sure knows Abbey road was recorded after Let It Be, not this movie. Another one, after the "Paul Is Dead" story broke in 1969, the movie claims that John was so afraid of MI5 thugs that he decided to divorce Cynthia.. Cmon now... This movie will perhaps open some eyes as was said, but I think anyone who has been involved with this forum and especially TKIN for the past few years will know where this story came from.. Chapter and verse from the old 60IF story, with a dash of Rotten Apple. Even used that line about the dead Paul "looking like a Walrus", lol. Fairly cheap entertainment, and I don't want to discourage anyone, but it is what it is.. Thanks for bringing out those points Jo. Yeah, when I listened to the above link I said to myself 'George? - I don't think so'. This guy tries too hard. For comparison- www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQpkwQ_OyVE
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Post by orgonguy on Jun 18, 2010 18:38:19 GMT -5
I got this video quite fast after payment. I have seen some of their Bob Dylan releases before. I enjoyed this video. Does it sound like George? No it does not. It is a fun watch and nothing different than we all talk about here. Cool vintage news footage of the boys. The funniest is when "Rita" surfaces later and "Maxwell" decides to take her out and she only loses part of her leg. And she turns out to be Heather Mills! There also is video of Heather talking about "evidence" she has if anything happens to her. It is enjoyable and worth the watch. Bonus interview with journalist that set up Beatles/Dylan meeting.
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Post by 65if2007 on Aug 21, 2010 2:08:13 GMT -5
I got it today, I'll say this for Highway 61, they are fast. But oh boy... About the George Harrison voice and whether it was "authentic", the narrator claimed to have subjected it to multiple analysis from "forensic experts" and the results were "inconclusive". OK, dodged that bullet. But for me, and while I'm not an expert on English accents like Plastic Paul, there is no way this is George, for reasons discussed above for one, for two it just sounds like a semi-bad imitation. The actors who played the Beatles in the Yellow Submarine made the same mistake.. Trying to hard with the Scouse imitation. Another problem is obvious, a mini recorder produces pretty crappy sound, the George voice sounds like it was recorded through professional equipment, or at the very least at a much higher tape speed than a mini cassette recorder. Another big problem, the casual indifference to Beatle history, stuff even the most indifferent Beatle fan should know. Almost everyone here I'm sure knows Abbey road was recorded after Let It Be, not this movie. Another one, after the "Paul Is Dead" story broke in 1969, the movie claims that John was so afraid of MI5 thugs that he decided to divorce Cynthia.. Cmon now... Clues to JPM's death on November 9, 1966 being dropped in the Rubber Soul and Revolver albums. They did no research at all.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Nov 26, 2010 17:45:55 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Mar 17, 2011 13:21:53 GMT -5
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