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Post by wallflower on Dec 20, 2011 10:35:03 GMT -5
I've heard about those PID rumours before, but I didn't know there are SO MANY PEOPLE who think it's real!
C'mon! If you believe this bullshit you are not even a Beatles fan, because if you were, you would knew John loved to play with the people, make things suspicious and etc. It was part of his behavior!
Ok, this theory is intersting, it's nice to keep searching proves and stuff, but you'll never prove it, you know why? Because it NEVER HAPPENED!!
Let's pretend Paul Paul McCartney died in 1966.. zzZZzZZ.. ok, let's pretend he did... HOW could they find someone physically identical (including hole in the jaw, hands, feet, look and mannerisms, and EVEN the ears you PID talk so much about (mostly pictures you show, his hair is covering his ear, and I've seen lots of pictures that it's not happening and the ear stills the same), with the SAME voice, with the SAME talent, and someone who could - instantly - get along with all Paul's old mates? Didn't you guys realize that's identity theft is a crime? If it was really true, everybody involved could be arrested! And more: what about Paul's family and friends? Do you think the only people he knew were related to the Beatles? How about his siblings, cousins, ex girlfriends? Are all those people retarted? Would they just accept that history without saying anything? And how about 'Faul's children? They look VERY alike the 'real' Paul McCartney, did they do plastic surgeries too? Ok, PIDers, you should try a new conspiracy theory: Paul is dead and they invented cloning in 1966. ¬¬' It's so fucking RIDICULOUS people take that serious! It shows you never knew Paul and the Beatles at all! It seems like you are living in Middle Ages!
OF COURSE Paul doesn't look the same in ALL pictures!! People have angles and old photograph were frequently artificially colored (it explains the difference of the colour of Paul's eyes)... And yes, people can lose weight, people can age and etc. Pick up a picture of YOURSELF three years ago... Do you look exactly the same: Because I DON'T! You PIDers are weirdos, that's all.
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Post by ramone on Dec 20, 2011 11:13:25 GMT -5
Hi - welcome - maybe you haven't thought thru the different possibilities.
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Post by ramone on Dec 20, 2011 12:08:28 GMT -5
Do you really think this guy- is this guy?
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Post by ramone on Dec 20, 2011 12:10:52 GMT -5
For all we know this guy could be JPM still alive and kickin' or maybe not. (interesting shot in any event) (PID link)
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Post by ramone on Dec 20, 2011 12:18:24 GMT -5
If not , still a better likeness than the dude on the right - (with those crazy ears growing CLOSER to his head as time goes by - and all that)
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Post by wallflower on Dec 20, 2011 12:35:39 GMT -5
So... I think it's quite possible Paul had doubles on that time to 'replace' him in some events and stuff because he was really famous, but so was John, George and Ringo. I mean, it's not impossible they ALL had some doubles at that time, but it doesn't mean Paul McCartney DIED and has been replaced! Look at that.. (I don't think the first picture is a double) John Lennon has 'different' noses in these two pictures, and nobody said he died and had been replaced! Now, look at George's nose: I mean, people change, angles change... and most of all, there's something called time. I think this whole conspiration theory of Paul's death is quite intesting, but it's nothing more than a lie. It can be easy to replace someone in a band, but it's not that simple to replace someone's LIFE. And c'mon.. do you really think someone who knew the truth (if it was truth) wouldn't take some advantage of it? I mean, if it was true, someone would want to prove it with EVIDENCES (like ADN tests, interview with family and stuff). If it was true, it would be more evidences than fake clues John let in the albuns (on purpose) and pictures from different times!!
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Post by wallflower on Dec 20, 2011 13:04:02 GMT -5
Just one thing.. I don't thik this guy: is this guy: But i still think he is THIS guy: Look at the shape of his mouth! And more: Her's Paul in 1964. Look at his teeth and the marks of expression he has right below he's eyes. Now: Look at his teeth! They are exactly the same! And look at the marks of expression, they are there!! If Paul really died in 1966, they had to create a PERFECT identical human being in a few months, and they couldn't do that even TODAY, imagine on those days!! You guys are probably watching too many fiction series!
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Post by wallflower on Dec 20, 2011 13:24:52 GMT -5
Just one more thing, I promisse.. this is a picture of 'real' Paul in 1965: Look he has a spot in his neck, next to his 'Addam's Apple'. Here's a picture you guys can see it better: and now, a picture of 'Faul's', lol. and here, again, is Paul in the very early sixties.. the spot is there (: See he has the same spot at the same place! (: I don't think they painted a spot there with eyeliner, do you? that's it
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Post by privyprincess on Dec 20, 2011 14:13:29 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't know if the original Paul is dead or not. I do think there is a much larger conspiracy attached to the whole PID enigma, though. Maybe the PID rumors started in an effort to get people to look deeper into the esoteric nature of their art.
Alot of Beatle lyrics can have more than one meaning, all of which make sense.
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Post by hotman637 on Dec 20, 2011 16:52:04 GMT -5
privyprincess, You are correct that PID is just a minor part of a much larger conspiracy I call the"hillbilly conspiracy".450,000 years ago hillbilly(inbred feuding) aliens landed on earth and their knowledge and technology is what created the modern world.The price we apparently have to pay for that is continual non stop LIEING.ALL the beatles and many other people have been replaced.Since decendents of these hillbillies run the world nobody seems to be able to stop them.
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Post by 65if2007 on Dec 22, 2011 0:08:44 GMT -5
'Twere to consider too curiously to consider so. You raise an interesting point about spots on a face being used as a form of ID, but that sort of thing can be disturbed by photo editing and by other changes brought about as a result of age. I'm not sure that you have found "matches", and in any event, there are also dissimilarities between the spots on the faces in the photos that you have submitted for comparison. The fact is that photo comparisons have been used by partisans on both sides to make their respective points, and I have come to reject all such comparisons -- or, at least, to take them with more than a grain of salt -- simply because partisans on both sides see what they want to see and the photo comparisons cancel one another out. And nobody on this forum or any competing forum is an expert on facial identification comparison. Everyone who talks about it talks about it as a partisan layperson. I had come to reject PID/PWR as an interesting but baseless hoax and was on the verge of tuning out altogether before the below-linked biometric comparison was published in a major tech magazine in Italy in mid-2009. This particular comparison deserves more respect than anything that a layperson posts in a forum since the comparison is apparently being made by people who do have the right to call themselves biometrics experts. invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5735It's been posted on this particular forum since mid-2009, and if you'd been prudent, you'd have done a little more checking before running off your mouth about "weirdos". Ever since the publication of this article, I have been back on the fence, and I am disappointed that no other biometric experts have followed up on it. It's hard to get an exact read on the article though, unless one is fluent in Italian, which I'm not, but you can get the gist of it anyway. No mention of spots on the faces of the the subject comparisons, though you'd think that those might be identifying markers, as well. But I'm not a biometrics expert either.
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Post by kopenhagen on Dec 26, 2011 16:18:37 GMT -5
everybody involved could be arrested!. [/quote] And if her Majesty, MI5 were behind this who is above them? before you jump to the conclusion, you should do some research even investigation I had the same reaction when I've heard about Paul's death BUT there are so many things didn't make sense there are some 3 main convincing evidences 1/ he denied to be the father of Bettina from Germany after 1966 , he failed his paternity test, of course Paul already died , btw, Paul paid to Erica to bring up Bettina until 1966 2/ what Heather Mills said about FAul ? if you tipped me off, I have a box of evidence, the truth will come out, it will be devastated 3/ The Italian Forensic, they even suggest that if FAul is willing to do a DNA test to end the rumors.... besides, I've seen many videos and pics Faul was using his right hand, you can manipulate the pics but not Videos, he inclined to use his right hand then he switched to his left hand to play the guitar Please try to debunk them
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