Open your Eyes........

[ticonderoga100]

THEY WERE ALL REPLACED!

'Paul is Dead' is just a diversion, to focus our attention in that direction while they replace the others - and their manager.

The four young lads from Liverpool took the world by storm, and they weren't really that good. Their fame was choreographed, Beatlemania was created, it didn't just happen. The target was young minds.

Sgt. Pepper's album cover is not a funeral for Paul. What's the name on the grave? The BEATLES. It's a funeral for the Beatles. The old Beatles are on the left, looking down at the grave sadly. In the middle are the new Beatles, with a completely different agenda, and truly different music - dark and evil - still aimed at young minds. The gallery behind them is peppered with people signifying their evil message and ultimate goal.

The 'beards and long hair' period was the perfect time to make the replacements. When a man has a beard for some time, then shaves it off, it takes a while to recognize him again. Perfect timing.

The John Lennon who was shot at the Dakota was a replacement. His time had come. The real John Lennon??

The George Harrison who died of Lung Cancer was a replacement. His time had come. The real George???

The Paul McCartney we see now, raking in the money off the name, fame and accomplishments of the real Paul, is noticeably a replacement, most likely Phil Ackrill. His time too will come. And the real Paul???

Ringo? Same thing.

The story is in not in the trees, but in the forest; very deep and very dark.

In numbers there is power, in numbers there is strength. Find the truth and take it to the whole world.

Young minds are still the target!

God Bless the four lads from Liverpool.

Ti

[B]

"...different music - dark and evil - still aimed at young minds.
The gallery behind them is peppered with people signifying their evil message
and ultimate goal."



WRONG!

Go back to square one.

But do feel free to explain! ;D

Tell us about their "ultimate goal", oh wise one.

"most likely Phil Ackrill"

[B]

I guess I'm being a little snarky today, so I should bite my tongue a bit, particularly
to a new-comer, but tell me which songs on Sgt Pepper are "dark and evil".

I'll give you "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds". Now let's hear about the rest.

edit: OK, I'll meet you half way - to be fair. I'm not altogether
in disagreement with you, but this "Beatles = Bad" horsepoop has been around
since 'forever', and the ones who make the most noise about it never see the forest for the trees.

Beatles = Pearls before swine, in many instances, but naturally for a pearl to be formed,
some irritation is required.

[ticonderoga100]

Nov 25, 2012 16:33:18 GMT -5 B said:

I guess I'm being a little snarky today, so I should bite my tongue a bit, particularly
to a new-comer, but tell me which songs on Sgt Pepper are "dark and evil".

I'll give you "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds". Now let's hear about the rest.

edit: OK, I'll meet you half way. I'm not altogether in disagreement with you, but this
"Beatles = Bad" horsepoop has been around 'forever', and the ones who make the
biggest noise about it never see the forest for the trees.

Beatles = Pearls before swine, in many instances, but for a pearl to form, some irritation is required.

Don't be too quick to say WRONG when you don't have all the answers. Listen. Ask yourself questions. Who, why. It's the little clues, not the big ones. The big clues are just diversions. Good luck in your research. I've said enough.

Ti

[B]

Well ticonderoga100, I've been at this since 1969, and on the web since 2002, so I'm not new to the game.
I think I've heard - at the very least - hundreds of clues dissected and analyzed, so if you're thinking
you can impress me with some "the Beatles were satanic" material, rest assured I've already
heard or seen it.

But don't let my big ego get in your way. There are others here who would like
to know what you have to say.
I'm just getting a little sick and tired of the "their handlers programmed them secretly
while they were in Germany" (etc.) crap. (With no evidence, of course!)

Welcome, btw.
Apologies too.

[iameye]

Nov 25, 2012 16:33:18 GMT -5 B said:

I guess I'm being a little snarky today, so I should bite my tongue a bit, particularly
to a new-comer, but tell me which songs on Sgt Pepper are "dark and evil".

I'll give you "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds".

you're kidding, right?

[iameye]

Open your eyes, look up to the sky and SEE.

[iameye]

B, I think you've forgotten who the real Global Moderator really is around here.

[B]

Nov 25, 2012 18:30:20 GMT -5 iameye said:

you're kidding, right?

I thought I had responded to this, but my post seems to have disappeared.



The short answer is: I did not want to get into a long, complicated discussion of that song because most people have the impression that it is an advocacy for using LSD. Trying to defend it under those circumstances always sounds like making excuses. I figured you (iameye) would chime in, in any case.

[iameye]

Nov 25, 2012 19:18:46 GMT -5 B said:

Nov 25, 2012 18:30:20 GMT -5 iameye said:

you're kidding, right?

I thought I had responded to this, but my post seems to have disappeared.

Because I deleted it

[iameye]

She's killer diller when she's dressed to the hilt.

www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=hilt

Guaranteed to blow your mind.

Anytime

lol
;D

[hotman637]

Not just the Beatles but The Stones,Zeppelin,Dylan, Joni Mitchell,etc.etc.etc were replaced! In other words all our"heroes" were replaced with crooks. Is MaccFake behind it all?

[B]

OK. Hotman, I have not seen any evidence that Joni Mitchell was replaced,
but even if she was, was she replaced with "a crook"?
Care to show us some evidence that her replacement was "a crook"?

And if you're going to accuse "MaccFake" of doing it, would you like to offer
some evidence for why he/she/it is the suspect here, if, in fact, it's true at all?

[LOVELYRITA]

Wait a minute! Wait a minute! I'm sorry, but I'm speaking up here!

I think someone here has not had his "happy pills" today. I think some of the responces by B to the new guy was harsh and unecessary. Ticonderoga 100 is entitled to his opinion and ideas on the matter, as anyone else does.

Sorry if you don't consider that Germany is the birthplace of mind control programming. I don't have the time and will not put links to all of the information that has to do with Tavistock, mind control and that the Beatles were part of a bigger plan.
And if you don't want to believe that about them, that's up to you, but don't throw out all of the work that others have researched, but have not included for argument here.

But don't bash people who wish to believe that they were part of a bigger plan, even if they were not willful, but forced into the system.

They may have been fully aware of selling their souls for fame, it's a reality, research that for yourself, or choose to believe that these people become famous organically, and they didn't have to compromise to get rich and famous. Hey, it's your choice.

But I think you've been a bit too harsh about people's opinion on the matter of something that differs from yours, and that's not like you to bash other people's ideas.

Perhaps becoming a moderator has gone to your head. We're not out of line, we just airing our opinions. That's all we did, we didn't attack other people's ideas...
This is a place where people share their insights and ideas.

BTW I agree with Ticonderoga100 in what he said, am I a loose cannon as well? Should I be banned because I agree with one post and disagree on another?

Sorry if you don't like the idea they could have had handlers or programmers....that's the world of fame, whether it's politics, finances, acting/singing or athletics. The idea didn't begin with me or Ticonderoga. And if you feel that this is not possible to control people's minds...go for it, but don't bash others if they feel that way!

But look at pictures of the early Beatles and the latter day and try to tell me they were the same men! Compare the vocals and tell me if they were the same men.

Seriously, is this argument necessary?

[ticonderoga100]

Thank you, lovelyrita, but it's apparent I've come to the wrong place. My intent was to share information I have learned with others but it seems they think they already know. Unfortunately, they don't. The very best to all of you.

Ti

[B]

I don't take happy pills.
And my disposition today has nothing to do with "becoming a moderator has gone to [my] head".
I'm just being my normal, Mars in Scorpio self. Without so much of the "normally nice" Virgo facade.
(Mercury is still retrograde, you know. Tomorrow things may change.)

I don't have a problem with the idea of two sets of Beatles.
What I have a problem with is grandiose but unsubstantiated declarations like:

"...different music - dark and evil - still aimed at young minds.
The gallery behind them is peppered with people signifying their evil message
and ultimate goal."

But I've already mentioned that, haven't I.
Because when I hear, "Within You/Without You", I don't hear an evil message.
I guess I'm just naiive.

And "Good Morning" - Now there's a song straight from the pit!
Or am I missing something?

Yep, these new guys and their minions on the cover - sure did a wicked thing by releasing that album!
Evil evil evil.

But it wasn't I who made the claim that the music was evil. I was hoping that the one who made the charge would defend his point of view!
You see, some people think that by making generalizations, they can get away with passing off BS for truth, Lovely Rita.
I don't much care for that attitude. So I jumped on ticonderoga100, anticipating that he was going down that road.
I admit, I didn't give him much of a chance, but I hope he will see fit to redeem his statement in the near future with some
- oh I don't know - evidence!
Silly me.

[B]

Nov 25, 2012 20:41:42 GMT -5 ticonderoga100 said:

Thank you, lovelyrita, but it's apparent I've come to the wrong place. My intent was to share information I have learned with others but it seems they think they already know. Unfortunately, they don't. The very best to all of you.

Ti

Well, I for one, would like to hear about this "evil message and ultimate goal"
you feel you have learned about.
You wouldn't be the first person here to suggest such a thing. So if I act like I "think (I) already know"
it may be because I do! But I am not the only one here, and if your point
has merit, you might want to consider sharing it with the others who are - presumably - more open minded than I am.

I personally have mixed feelings about Sgt Pepper, frankly, so I'm not dismissing what
you have outright. I just have become very weary of the Wes Penre's of the world who
blame the Beatles for everything; but couldn't come close to them if called upon to
do what they did. And I have become weary of people who believe that behind the scenes
the Beatles were mindless zombies being programmed by their 'illuminati handlers'
who tortured and beat them if they failed to perform, like circus elephants sometimes are.
And even if that is true, which I doubt, what is offensive to me is that usually
the bearer of the news usually goes on to say that they would have no talent
if they hadn't 'sold themselves to the devil', or that they had no talent period.

So yes, when I read "they weren't really that good" my reaction is to say,
"OK. YOU do it!" And to become cynical.
Monday morning quarterbacking is really easy, but you know that. You've been around
longer than I have this time around.
And I'm open to some pretty wild suggestions, believe me. So if you want to make the case
that they were evil, and unabashedly so, then fine. But most coins have two sides,
and I think that in fairness, both need to be considered.

[ticonderoga100]

All I have to say to you, sir, is that if you have indeed been investigating this since 1969 and have come to the closed-minded conclusions that you seem to have, you haven't done very well. I suggest YOU start at square 1 again and maybe open up your mind a bit. Also, you may want to brush up on your people skills if you expect to be successful in the 'way up there' position of moderator. By the way, blocking my password is very mature.

By dissing the information I have to offer, you have done yourself and others a disservice. True investigators welcome ALL information. I will take my information to where it is welcomed.

Thank you, global, for your kind welcome to the forum.

Ti

[B]

I did not block your password. I don't know anything about that.

You are welcome to post your information, or not. I really don't care.

As I have already stated, my posts regarding your information (yet to be seen,
as far as I am concerned) have nothing to do with my "'way up there' position of moderator".
They would read the same, regardless of whether I was a moderator or not.

The ball is in your court. I have already admitted that my treatment of you was unduly harsh.
Proceed or don't. The ball is in your court.

[LOVELYRITA]

Nov 25, 2012 20:41:42 GMT -5 ticonderoga100 said:

Thank you, lovelyrita, but it's apparent I've come to the wrong place. My intent was to share information I have learned with others but it seems they think they already know. Unfortunately, they don't. The very best to all of you.

Ti

Don't leave yet, your ideas are important as anyone else's.

I think you've got very good points and don't stop because some people aren't in agreement. It's not fair to those who want to hear your ideas and theories.

[JoJo]

A moderator "blocking your password" is impossible, FYI.

[JoJo]

Nov 26, 2012 0:36:07 GMT -5 B said:

have nothing to do with my "'way up there' position of moderator".
They would read the same, regardless of whether I was a moderator or not.

Knowing B for as long as I have, I can say without a shadow of a doubt this is true.. He will give his unvarnished opinion, moderator or no.

And, if he was about exercising power, he would have banned you or deleted your post(s). Did that happen?

[hotman637]

Go to"The Doppelganger and Identity Research Society"(it is closed now but maybe you can find a way to get on there. You will find probably dozens of replaced celebrities and rock stars. Eric Clapton,Alanis Morriset,Brad Pitt, and MANY MANY others. Practically all of the rock stars from the sixies and seventies.MaccFake is just the tip of the iceberg! He is the most famous and best known to be replaced so I wondered if he and the record companies were behind it.

[Silversong]

Nov 25, 2012 14:36:35 GMT -5 ticonderoga100 said:

The four young lads from Liverpool took the world by storm, and they weren't really that good. Their fame was choreographed, Beatlemania was created, it didn't just happen. The target was young minds.

God Bless the four lads from Liverpool.

Ti

I think you bring up some good points here, Ticonderoga100. What I'd like to ask is, in the 2 statements you made that are quoted here, would you say they agree with or contradict each other?

[lbak]

<<<The four young lads from Liverpool took the world by storm, and they weren't really that good. Their fame was choreographed, Beatlemania was created, it didn't just happen. The target was young minds.>>>

Having watched Anthology 3 again just recently, it's blatantly obvious that the Beatles' American reception was outrageously stage-managed. The powers that be, in almost all fields, bent over backwards to accommodate them, even more so than in the UK. Here's the main problem though - the jury is still out on what Beatlemania actually was. All we know for sure are the symptoms. You say the target was young minds, but more likely it was young minds AND young bodies. And targeted with what? Sounds, or in other words, frequencies.