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Post by Paul Bearer on Dec 26, 2011 18:58:30 GMT -5
It was a great article until he started jew-bashing at the end. Nothing like an association with anti-semitisim to discredit a conspiracy. The original story claimed that Brian was the primary target because he was a jew; I was also told that "Jude" was burnt into the side of the remains of the car (is this where the title "Hey Jude" comes from?). How is this a jewish conspiracy against Paul? More like an anti-jewish attack against Brian, jealous that a jew discovered and managed the most succesful and popular group in history.
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Post by kopenhagen on Dec 26, 2011 21:26:34 GMT -5
anyhow , this Italian forensic is very accurate
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 26, 2011 21:29:23 GMT -5
Never heard the jewish conspiracy against Brian....or Paul. I must say, when I read something about a "conspiracy" whether PID or something else, and something seems far fetched, it's usually something written to discredit the entire thing. Like Don Knotts being used as a replacement Brian. Start with something credible, and then throw stupidity in it, then the entire theory goes out the window.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Dec 27, 2011 16:15:17 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I don't think the idea of Don Knotts beng Brian is as far fetched as you might think.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 27, 2011 21:24:18 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I don't think the idea of Don Knotts beng Brian is as far fetched as you might think. Monkey business... Watch @ 2:33. And there's always this little tidbit. Watch @ 1:20. Fun times!
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Post by doublefantasy1980 on Dec 28, 2011 2:45:22 GMT -5
It was a great article until he started jew-bashing at the end. Nothing like an association with anti-semitisim to discredit a conspiracy. The original story claimed that Brian was the primary target because he was a jew; I was also told that "Jude" was burnt into the side of the remains of the car (is this where the title "Hey Jude" comes from?). How is this a jewish conspiracy against Paul? More like an anti-jewish attack against Brian, jealous that a jew discovered and managed the most succesful and popular group in history. For Epstein's book, correct me if I'm wrong, Lennon said something about calling it "Queer Jew" or something like that.. So it was more of like throwing jokes at him
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Post by il ras on Jan 19, 2013 14:01:31 GMT -5
in this one(at the end) there is another anthropometric compqrison: Face and voice
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Post by superman on Jan 20, 2013 13:14:17 GMT -5
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jan 20, 2013 19:48:31 GMT -5
Sorry? What's Bob Crane got to do with all this?
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Post by superman on Jan 21, 2013 0:21:14 GMT -5
Sorry? What's Bob Crane got to do with all this? In the Wings video "Band on the Run" there is a quick scene (at 2:33) where you see Bob Crane transform into Brian Epstein. Not only that, Crane is apparently videotaping before he's transformed into Epstein. Apparently "Paul" is associating Bob Crane's penchant for videotaping sexual exploits with Brian Epstein. Or maybe Epstein's death was similar to Crane's somehow. Maybe he pissed off a partner in crime and...
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Post by il ras on Feb 9, 2013 5:28:49 GMT -5
Ok. But the topic of this thread is the biometric comparison of Paul's face, body, voice. .. Don't you think this Bob Crane thing is quite OT?
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Post by superman on Feb 10, 2013 15:21:31 GMT -5
Ok. But the topic of this thread is the biometric comparison of Paul's face, body, voice. .. Don't you think this Bob Crane thing is quite OT? in the middle of the thread P(D)enny La(i)ne gives us a tidbit about Don Knotts probably standing in for Brian Epstein at some point and linked us to some interesting video clips that makes you wonder if Knotts really was somehow involved.
My point is, no one gave him shiite about it even though "the topic of this thread is the bio-frigging-metric comparison of Paul's face body, voice". If my little aside and question REALLY bothers you, I'll move it somewhere
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Post by iwilliam on Feb 10, 2013 16:10:54 GMT -5
Ok. But the topic of this thread is the biometric comparison of Paul's face, body, voice. .. Don't you think this Bob Crane thing is quite OT? in the middle of the thread P(D)enny La(i)ne gives us a tidbit about Don Knotts probably standing in for Brian Epstein at some point and linked us to some interesting video clips that makes you wonder if Knotts really was somehow involved.
My point is, no one gave him shiite about it even though "the topic of this thread is the bio-frigging-metric comparison of Paul's face body, voice". If my little aside and question REALLY bothers you, I'll move it somewhereNot sure if it was intended to, and maybe this is just me, but your reply came across as slightly hostile. Or maybe just defensive. I don't think your "aside" bothered him, or anyone, per se. However, I think I see where he's coming from... or at least, I have had similar thoughts..... You see, IMO one of the great and interesting things about the whole PID / PWR thing, is that one subject, and line of speculation, can lead to another, which leads to another, ad infinitum. Beginning with one theory, idea, or piece of information, I can end up reading for hours going from one thing, to another, to another. And as I said-- this is sometimes one of the great and interesting things about the PID / PWR phenomenon, and forums on the subject.... However, sometimes one of the truly frustrating and annoying things about the PID / PWR phenomenon, and related forums, is that very same thing. Sometimes it's great to hear other theories or ideas thrown into the mix for consideration. But often that can side-track or de-rail a thread quite severely. And sometimes when you're trying to stay along one line of speculation, it can be a little frustrating, or at the least confusing and complicating, when people start lengthy tangents on a new idea-- when following typical forum ettiquette-- meaning starting a new thread, and simply making a quick mention of the topic and a link to the new thread, instead of trying to side-track the discussion, would be just as effective, and easier to follow. I don't know why this practice seems so endemic to PID / PWR forums... but it is. Certain members, I have also noticed, tend to do it far far more than others. Not to point any fingers. Just to give a point of contrast-- while I don't entirely agree with the practice, and most forums are fairly lenient with this kind of thing, I'm a member of a couple forums where a post that far off topic would be automatically, without question, deleted upon a mod noticing it. I think that's a bit extreme, and harsh, but I'm sure you get the idea..... I think he was just pointing out that it was off topic, which it was-- very off topic. And on that note, while it would have been slightly more work for you, or P(D)enny La(i)ne for that matter, it might have better facilitated ease of reading and clarity of discussion had you started a new thread on that topic, and made a post like "hey guys, I think this idea somehow relates to this other theory, which I made a thread about and here's the link....." Just my 2 cents... as I have noticed this kind of thing here (and similar forums) quite a lot, and while sometimes it seems to enhance discussion, sometimes it seems to muddy the waters. I personally don't mind the minor aside here and there, as long as it isn't too long, and doesn't over-run the original topic. Especially if the original topic is very interesting, as this one is IMO.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Feb 10, 2013 17:16:25 GMT -5
iwilliam, I completely agree with you. In fact, I would go further. It appears that many threads here have been hijacked by posts with obscure references to illuminati symbols and so on that appear to have little to do with the OP and in some cases even the previous post. Hardly anyone can follow even what they are talking about, execept apparently one or two. It is as if they are having some sort of inside joke that only those in the know get.
The moderators have done nothing about this behaviour, the effect of which newcomers are being put of by threads that start off straightforward enough and go off on some obscure tangent that just about no one can follow. This seems to have happened in just about every thread.
One wonders out loud whether the few who are guilty of such posts aren't actually agents out to sabotage the forum. They have been left to roam free for far too long.
Perhaps there should be a ban on any discussions of NWO-type conspiracies except wheere the OP specifically calls for it. A thread, for instance, which asks you to compare Paul vs Faul photos, should simply stick to that.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 10, 2013 18:31:14 GMT -5
Sorry? What's Bob Crane got to do with all this? In the Wings video "Band on the Run" there is a quick scene (at 2:33) where you see Bob Crane transform into Brian Epstein. Not only that, Crane is apparently videotaping before he's transformed into Epstein. Apparently "Paul" is associating Bob Crane's penchant for videotaping sexual exploits with Brian Epstein. Or maybe Epstein's death was similar to Crane's somehow. Maybe he pissed off a partner in crime and... Personally I'm glad it's posted anywhere, because while I'm searching for certain paths, someone else notices something somewhere else, which ... ties in with what I'm looking for. Right now, my research is in the death of Richard Asher, and the 10 people that I can count that die of unnatural causes between September 1966 and December 1969 in Beatle Land. I'm still looking. But a lot of dark dark things are turning up. And one thing that turns up, is parties held by celebrities in the 1960's that may have had children used as sex entertainment, mainly young boys. This turns up when you investigate the suicide of Joe Meek. And his killing of his landlady. This all happened just after a young boy was found in pieces, put into two suitcases and left in Suffolk. It was only a few weeks after Meek shot himself and his landlady. This and Meek's ties to the Krays, who may have been operating a child sex ring, and entertaining their political AND celebrity friends with these children. And the name Brian Epstein comes up. Just like Jimmy Savile. And Wilfrid Brambell. And Cliff Richard. And a lot of others. So Bob Crane, sex porn maker, transforming into Brian Epstein? Hmmmm. Bob Crane murdered. Brian Epstein "suicide" Suitcases aplenty - one arrives without a suitcase. Good work superman
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 10, 2013 18:35:19 GMT -5
And for the record I am not saying Epstein abused young boys. But I am saying he attended such parties. His name comes up - which ain't a good thing.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 10, 2013 22:03:28 GMT -5
iwilliam, I completely agree with you. In fact, I would go further. It appears that many threads here have been hijacked by posts with obscure references to illuminati symbols and so on that appear to have little to do with the OP and in some cases even the previous post. Hardly anyone can follow even what they are talking about, execept apparently one or two. It is as if they are having some sort of inside joke that only those in the know get. The moderators have done nothing about this behaviour, the effect of which newcomers are being put of by threads that start off straightforward enough and go off on some obscure tangent that just about no one can follow. This seems to have happened in just about every thread. One wonders out loud whether the few who are guilty of such posts aren't actually agents out to sabotage the forum. They have been left to roam free for far too long. Perhaps there should be a ban on any discussions of NWO-type conspiracies except wheere the OP specifically calls for it. A thread, for instance, which asks you to compare Paul vs Faul photos, should simply stick to that. You have moderated a PID forum Paulbearer, and you know how it goes.. How did that controlling things work out for ya? There are no agents, just people who want to free associate and hear the sound of their own words.. Well maybe some self editing is called for, I'll admit that. This is a thread Ilras started about the forensic evidence in the Italian version of Wired, I split it off from where it went off the beam. (in my opinion)
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Post by maxwell on Feb 11, 2013 13:50:46 GMT -5
I've heard the usual anti-simitic propoganda against the Beatles. It claims that they were all of Jewish ancestry, when in fact they were of Celtic origin - as were most Liverpudlians. Bigotry is just gay!
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Post by Paul Bearer on Feb 17, 2013 6:10:54 GMT -5
iwilliam, I completely agree with you. In fact, I would go further. It appears that many threads here have been hijacked by posts with obscure references to illuminati symbols and so on that appear to have little to do with the OP and in some cases even the previous post. Hardly anyone can follow even what they are talking about, execept apparently one or two. It is as if they are having some sort of inside joke that only those in the know get. The moderators have done nothing about this behaviour, the effect of which newcomers are being put of by threads that start off straightforward enough and go off on some obscure tangent that just about no one can follow. This seems to have happened in just about every thread. One wonders out loud whether the few who are guilty of such posts aren't actually agents out to sabotage the forum. They have been left to roam free for far too long. Perhaps there should be a ban on any discussions of NWO-type conspiracies except wheere the OP specifically calls for it. A thread, for instance, which asks you to compare Paul vs Faul photos, should simply stick to that. You have moderated a PID forum Paulbearer, and you know how it goes.. How did that controlling things work out for ya? There are no agents, just people who want to free associate and hear the sound of their own words.. Well maybe some self editing is called for, I'll admit that. This is a thread Ilras started about the forensic evidence in the Italian version of Wired, I split it off from where it went off the beam. (in my opinion) Well, what I will say about those early days is that I was quite naive, I let people manipulate me a lot, and it was an earlier verison of Probards that didn't have all the controls you do now. For instance, there wasn't a membership approval option. People would register overnight while I was asleep and start posting drivel. I'd remove them and then they'd simply reregister under a differentname and even different IP so banning the IP didn't help in some cases.
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Post by duodamsel on Feb 18, 2013 3:53:47 GMT -5
It was a great article until he started jew-bashing at the end. Nothing like an association with anti-semitisim to discredit a conspiracy. Again, this is going to seem out there, but I think that the celebration featured in “Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite” was like a prediction of all those gay pride parades. And that… A) Mr. Kite was really Mr. KIKE (alluding to some sort of nebulous Jewish conspiracy) B) “In this way Mr. K (or Mr. Gay) will challenge the world” The parade of prideful homosexuals are indeed challenging the world and their social mores. C) “The celebrated Mr. K performs his feat on Saturday (Saturn’s Day) at Bishop’s Gate” … meaning the gay parade would mock the religious establishment right in its face. D) Mr. Kite is footing the bill … meaning the parade of sexual perversion would be paid for by some Jewish organization. The notion first came to me when I saw the song performed by the Bee Gee’s in that Sgt. Pepper musical It begins at 4:10 … watch it all the way through and see if it doesn’t come off like some gay pride parade. Yes, l know the “Beatles” weren’t really involved in the Stigwood Pepper movie, and I know the lyrics to Mr. Kite were found on some old poster and copied nearly word-for-word to form the song, but I still get the impression that there was a deeper meaning to it. I could be (and hopefully I am) wrong, but does the song, combined with the imagery seem to indicate this? It may be something that's all Stigwood and have nothing at all to do with the Beatles and their meaning behind it. Or maybe it's all just me thinking a little too much about one song performance in a very bad movie.
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