One of these Pauls is not like the others

[joseph]

[letitbeatle]

Same person

[ekauqodielak]

Aug 27, 2018 7:40:59 GMT -5 letitbeatle said:

Same person

Are you joking? None of them have the same ears.

[joseph]

In my view, the first picture is the real Paul McCartney. It is from footage which didn't make it into the final cut of the documentary "What's Happening: The Beatles in America,"
but was used in a 2003 documentary by the director - one of the Maysles brothers. Footage from the filming of the 1964 documentary was rushed to the UK, where it
was used to get Faul's make-up ready for the filming of A Hard Day's Night.

The second and third pictures are taken from the movie AHDN, and show Faul with two different lots of make-up. The first is a bridge and chin extension
and the second is a nostril extension.

Because the people making AHDN are Satanists/Luciferians and have to tell you what they are doing (this passes the bad karma onto the viewing public)
Faul appears in the movie turning to the camera with a fake nose in hand going, "ZAP!"

[bandi]

Hello, Joseph.

Please tell us, is this something that you heard--that footage from the Maysles documentary was rushed to the UK so Faul could get prepared for the filming of A Hard Day's Night ?
I am curious as to a couple of things.

One: the statement itself---how do you know it's true, that footage was rushed to the UK before the filming of AHDN started, so Faul's make up could be made ready for filming their first movie ?

Next: your statement that Faul was the 'Paul' in AHDN---was this something that you had heard also or, were you there to actually see this go down?
(I'm not being rough on you, I and others here would like to know HOW you became privy to this information, is all.)

As for the ears on them not matching---that's true, but, if you really dig deep you'll find that fake ears was something that just about all the versions of the four lads used.
If you look inside their ears---and I mean all of the lads, all the different 'players' in this Great Play, it's pretty clear that something odd was happening inside the actual ear.
Very strange.

Now if you actually know someone who was there---and I'm not saying that you don't---then I'd say great, thank the person for the info regarding footage being rushed over the pond
so Faul could get made up properly.

I have a friend who was there, back in the start of it all. It wasn't just four guys with guitars. It was a team of very, very good support people; writers, technically astute musicians
that worked together to provide the lads with the music. Then it was up to a very small group to literally beat them up (at their endless practice sessions) by making them "do it again"
and "do it again" then "do it again" until the four could play the 3 minute tunes blind folded...this phenom that the lads and their providers created started on a roof top and ended on one.
That's how it was explained to me by someone that was there, believe it or not, and I could care less who does or doesn't [believe me].

There's sooo much that went down with the group in the beginning that if I started posting the things I was told, I'd get tarred and feathered, as well as be cursed at
and threatened. So, I don't say much I just follow what is being posted here and keep my mouth shut.

[B]

michelle wrote

Bandi, your information seem to be about ' touring Beatles'. Josef is insider.

He is?! You could have fooled me!
How do you know this michelle? What evidence is there for it?

[B]

Aug 30, 2018 12:34:03 GMT -5 bandi said:

I have a friend who was there, back in the start of it all. It wasn't just four guys with guitars. It was a team of very, very good support people; writers, technically astute musicians
that worked together to provide the lads with the music. Then it was up to a very small group to literally beat them up (at their endless practice sessions) by making them "do it again"
and "do it again" then "do it again" until the four could play the 3 minute tunes blind folded...this phenom that the lads and their providers created started on a roof top and ended on one.
That's how it was explained to me by someone that was there, believe it or not, and I could care less who does or doesn't [believe me].

There's sooo much that went down with the group in the beginning that if I started posting the things I was told, I'd get tarred and feathered, as well as be cursed at
and threatened. So, I don't say much I just follow what is being posted here and keep my mouth shut.

Yeah. 'Cause I mean, it's not as if this board is about trying to find out the real story regarding Paul being replaced or anything.
It's about 'GunsNRoses reveal the truth about Paul in Illuminati Mastercard commercial!!!!!' according to a recent poster. *quote from forum member kaleidoquake
So we encourage the people who actually have inside information to be "vewwy vewwy quiet!" and keep their opinions to themselves.

Yes, that's the ticket!

*sarcasm*

[B]

bandi wrote

Then it was up to a very small group to literally beat them up (at their endless practice sessions) by making them "do it again"
and "do it again" then "do it again" until the four could play the 3 minute tunes blind folded.

The Beach Boys perform "Do It Again" on the 2017 A Capitol Fourth
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfVCMgQOMM



"to literally beat them up" - really?

Can we please be careful with the use of words here?
I would appreciate it if posters would be careful to only use words that actually convey what they mean to say.
If you (bandi) are suggesting that the Beatles got beat up, then please be explicit about it, because the way
you phrased your comment just leads to confusion, in my opinion. Were they beat up or not?
If they weren't, then don't say that they 'literally' were.

This case has enough confusion inherent in it without the introduction of more ambiguity into it.

[B]

bandi wrote:

this phenom that the lads and their providers created started on a roof top and ended on one.

That's a very intriguing statement!

Why, if I didn't 'know better', I might think that the video below might have something to do with portraying what might have gone down, in that case.

YES - Owner of a Lonely Heart (Official Music Video)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVOuYquXuuc



I might think that the 'owner of a Lonely Heart' might be a reference to Paul McCartney being the 'owner' of the Sgt Pepper Lonely Heart's Club Band.
I might think the video might be showing him "bag production" (i.e. turn his back on it).
I might think that the guy jumping off the building could be seen as "Mr. Kite", thinking he could fly.
I might think that the Beatles performing a roof-top concert in the recording of the "Let It Be" album might be a symbolic act of defiance!

But, as we all know, "An outsider with an agenda inventing alternative meanings to dozens of random song lyrics is “evidence” of a conspiracy to “get out the word about Paul”
in the same way seeing forms in the constellations is “evidence” of a pantheon of real sky gods." * So clearly there's nothing to see here.

Or here:

Mad World - Gary Jules
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4


No, "If The Beatles’ peers wanted to “get the word out” that a colleague had died ... it would seem far more efficient for those in the know ...to call each other
on the phone or even write a letter "* And the public be damned, evidently.

Fire and Rain - James Taylor
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSqT_PeiV0U


* quote from forum member kaleidoquake

[joseph]

Aug 30, 2018 12:34:03 GMT -5 bandi said:

Hello, Joseph.

Please tell us, is this something that you heard--that footage from the Maysles documentary was rushed to the UK so Faul could get prepared for the filming of A Hard Day's Night ?
I am curious as to a couple of things.

One: the statement itself---how do you know it's true, that footage was rushed to the UK before the filming of AHDN started, so Faul's make up could be made ready for filming their first movie ?

Next: your statement that Faul was the 'Paul' in AHDN---was this something that you had heard also or, were you there to actually see this go down?
(I'm not being rough on you, I and others here would like to know HOW you became privy to this information, is all.)

As for the ears on them not matching---that's true, but, if you really dig deep you'll find that fake ears was something that just about all the versions of the four lads used.
If you look inside their ears---and I mean all of the lads, all the different 'players' in this Great Play, it's pretty clear that something odd was happening inside the actual ear.
Very strange.

Now if you actually know someone who was there---and I'm not saying that you don't---then I'd say great, thank the person for the info regarding footage being rushed over the pond
so Faul could get made up properly.

I have a friend who was there, back in the start of it all. It wasn't just four guys with guitars. It was a team of very, very good support people; writers, technically astute musicians
that worked together to provide the lads with the music. Then it was up to a very small group to literally beat them up (at their endless practice sessions) by making them "do it again"
and "do it again" then "do it again" until the four could play the 3 minute tunes blind folded...this phenom that the lads and their providers created started on a roof top and ended on one.
That's how it was explained to me by someone that was there, believe it or not, and I could care less who does or doesn't [believe me].

There's sooo much that went down with the group in the beginning that if I started posting the things I was told, I'd get tarred and feathered, as well as be cursed at
and threatened. So, I don't say much I just follow what is being posted here and keep my mouth shut.

In the Maysles doc, he explains that the footage was taken by his brother back to Granada TV asap. If you watch AHDN it is virtually a scene-for-scene replica
of the Maysles footage - and the plot to AHDN is so thin, I have to assume the former was made for the latter. No one has told me this and I haven't read it
anywhere else, and that's why I began with " In my view..."

The thing about make-up is if you have one look, you can have two - and if you have two, you can have three. Faul had multiple temporary facial makeovers
between 63 and 66 (and probably beyond). The goal of the deceivers was to keep the public's perception in a state of flux.

I agree with what you are saying about the replacements having seriously disciplined coaches and I believe they may have gone on to be famous. My hunch would be
on the Bonzo Dog band members as trainers. Neil Innes went on to do The Rutles with Eric Idle which was produced by the replacement for George Harrison.

I know no-one connected to The Beatles and didn't even know PID was a thing until the beginning of the year, when I stumbled across this forum while investigating
the death of Heather O'Rourke. What I found most astonishing in this investigation of mine, is reflecting on my own interest in The Beatles throughout my younger years
and how my opinion of them was shaped by a complicit mainstream media. We are constantly led away from their "early stuff" - especially by the replacements themselves.

[ekauqodielak]

The original "Paul McCartney" had/has ear tips that sort of fold/ed over, as does the man in the 2nd photo. The other two (pix 1 & 3) are doppelgängers; if he doesn't have folded over ear tips, he is never The Real Paul.






Real Paul, also, had low, short pointed eyebrows. He was none of the cutie doll eyes mouse nosed Pauls; he was among the least attractive of The Pauls and was almost entirely absent from the Beatlemania era.

[B]

kaleidoquake wrote:

The original "Paul McCartney" had/has ear tips that sort of fold/ed over, as does the man in the 2nd photo.

I don't see any men in the second photo.

[lil2022]

when will you all realise paul is paul and that is that? it's not an OPINION, it's the bloody truth.

[ekauqodielak]

Sept 4, 2018 13:03:45 GMT -5 B said:

kaleidoquake wrote:

The original "Paul McCartney" had/has ear tips that sort of fold/ed over, as does the man in the 2nd photo.

I don't see any men in the second photo.

The 2nd photo in the original post. The middle one of three.

[bandi]

Hi B;

My friend who doesn't reside here in the USA and was there in England and then Canada with the lads and their handlers in the beginning years, mentioned to me more than
once how JL was smacked around physically and was also taken out of circulation for a short period of time (removed from the group during their early years--mid '64)
and made to spend a week alone in a seedy run down apartment, literally under guard (not a military guard but an MI5/6 plain clothes type assembly/small group of men)
with a prison type menu of lousy food with zero entertainment/speed pills (very popular with the lads) zero women or night life, all because of his big, fat, loud, stupid
drunken mouth. He was warned to keep his mouth closed and to respect the handlers in the early days, but out of the four he was the loud one who could not do as he was told
especially when he felt the lads were even more important than they actually were.

Almost everything the group was being taught to do (how to seemingly act naturally--how to appear as cool as they really were in terms of possessing a lower than most
'big stars' egos and how to carry themselves like guys in suits and not toughsters in leather clothes anymore). JL had something to say, and as for his being warned---
not that he'd be killed but be made to 'pay' for his, again, big, fat, loud, stupid drunken acting out while 'training' was underway in the beginning--
not in the Hamburg days but after that period--after the world had their first tastes of the lads and couldn't get enough of them; which, for someone like JL, would be
the perfect time to start acting out because maybe he/the lads felt they should be earning more.

Remember, in the beginning the 'big basket' of $$$ was being stolen by the handlers, the 'filth' as they were called by the group...so, yes, not to mislead about being
'beaten up' but these guys were 'handled' by the handlers, and since I haven't been lied to yet by this man who was there from the very early days right thru Beatlemania,
I am just trying to convey this as it is told to me that to become good enough to be able to play their songs on TV and on the world stage in front of people they had to
be good enough at fingering chords and learning the changes without looking at their instruments; and the way JL had that fast tongue--his words that came out--I could
believe as it was told to me that he actually was knocked around for a short period to get him in line in the beginning.

I know how hard it is to believe what people who come on these boards say. I've been here for years and then some. But there is quite a bit to this story that, when someone
who comes along who was there from the start, someone who has a 50,000 word manuscript written up with details about the group that would make most anyone who was interested
in these lads wet themselves, I listen. And then on occasion I like to pass on what I'm told as long as the person telling me what was happening back in the early days wants
or needs to stay unknown and unpublished (that part sucks but he knows what happened to Mal Evans who wrote his memoirs then was gone).

There's more that is so unbelievable that it would be just crazy to post here because of reactions that would follow. So I'll leave those things alone. At least for now.

[maclen]

Aug 29, 2018 17:17:31 GMT -5 ekauqodielak said:

Aug 27, 2018 7:40:59 GMT -5 letitbeatle said:

Same person

Are you joking? None of them have the same ears.

we can see they're the same ears - the same paul

[maclen]

Oct 21, 2018 16:54:26 GMT -5 bandi said:

Hi B;

My friend who doesn't reside here in the USA and was there in England and then Canada with the lads and their handlers in the beginning years, mentioned to me more than
once how JL was smacked around physically and was also taken out of circulation for a short period of time (removed from the group during their early years--mid '64)
and made to spend a week alone in a seedy run down apartment, literally under guard (not a military guard but an MI5/6 plain clothes type assembly/small group of men)
with a prison type menu of lousy food with zero entertainment/speed pills (very popular with the lads) zero women or night life, all because of his big, fat, loud, stupid
drunken mouth. He was warned to keep his mouth closed and to respect the handlers in the early days, but out of the four he was the loud one who could not do as he was told
especially when he felt the lads were even more important than they actually were.

Almost everything the group was being taught to do (how to seemingly act naturally--how to appear as cool as they really were in terms of possessing a lower than most
'big stars' egos and how to carry themselves like guys in suits and not toughsters in leather clothes anymore). JL had something to say, and as for his being warned---
not that he'd be killed but be made to 'pay' for his, again, big, fat, loud, stupid drunken acting out while 'training' was underway in the beginning--
not in the Hamburg days but after that period--after the world had their first tastes of the lads and couldn't get enough of them; which, for someone like JL, would be
the perfect time to start acting out because maybe he/the lads felt they should be earning more.

Remember, in the beginning the 'big basket' of $$$ was being stolen by the handlers, the 'filth' as they were called by the group...so, yes, not to mislead about being
'beaten up' but these guys were 'handled' by the handlers, and since I haven't been lied to yet by this man who was there from the very early days right thru Beatlemania,
I am just trying to convey this as it is told to me that to become good enough to be able to play their songs on TV and on the world stage in front of people they had to
be good enough at fingering chords and learning the changes without looking at their instruments; and the way JL had that fast tongue--his words that came out--I could
believe as it was told to me that he actually was knocked around for a short period to get him in line in the beginning.

I know how hard it is to believe what people who come on these boards say. I've been here for years and then some. But there is quite a bit to this story that, when someone
who comes along who was there from the start, someone who has a 50,000 word manuscript written up with details about the group that would make most anyone who was interested
in these lads wet themselves, I listen. And then on occasion I like to pass on what I'm told as long as the person telling me what was happening back in the early days wants
or needs to stay unknown and unpublished (that part sucks but he knows what happened to Mal Evans who wrote his memoirs then was gone).

There's more that is so unbelievable that it would be just crazy to post here because of reactions that would follow. So I'll leave those things alone. At least for now.

it's makes more sense to claim lennon was beaten in conjunction with mccartney's dissapearance in 66 than two years before when he looked healthy and happy. who is this guy with the 50k word book and the farfetched claims. would he come here and be questioned

[joseph]

Nov 18, 2018 18:34:52 GMT -5 maclen said:

Oct 21, 2018 16:54:26 GMT -5 bandi said:

Hi B;

My friend who doesn't reside here in the USA and was there in England and then Canada with the lads and their handlers in the beginning years, mentioned to me more than
once how JL was smacked around physically and was also taken out of circulation for a short period of time (removed from the group during their early years--mid '64)
and made to spend a week alone in a seedy run down apartment, literally under guard (not a military guard but an MI5/6 plain clothes type assembly/small group of men)
with a prison type menu of lousy food with zero entertainment/speed pills (very popular with the lads) zero women or night life, all because of his big, fat, loud, stupid
drunken mouth. He was warned to keep his mouth closed and to respect the handlers in the early days, but out of the four he was the loud one who could not do as he was told
especially when he felt the lads were even more important than they actually were.

Almost everything the group was being taught to do (how to seemingly act naturally--how to appear as cool as they really were in terms of possessing a lower than most
'big stars' egos and how to carry themselves like guys in suits and not toughsters in leather clothes anymore). JL had something to say, and as for his being warned---
not that he'd be killed but be made to 'pay' for his, again, big, fat, loud, stupid drunken acting out while 'training' was underway in the beginning--
not in the Hamburg days but after that period--after the world had their first tastes of the lads and couldn't get enough of them; which, for someone like JL, would be
the perfect time to start acting out because maybe he/the lads felt they should be earning more.

Remember, in the beginning the 'big basket' of $$$ was being stolen by the handlers, the 'filth' as they were called by the group...so, yes, not to mislead about being
'beaten up' but these guys were 'handled' by the handlers, and since I haven't been lied to yet by this man who was there from the very early days right thru Beatlemania,
I am just trying to convey this as it is told to me that to become good enough to be able to play their songs on TV and on the world stage in front of people they had to
be good enough at fingering chords and learning the changes without looking at their instruments; and the way JL had that fast tongue--his words that came out--I could
believe as it was told to me that he actually was knocked around for a short period to get him in line in the beginning.

I know how hard it is to believe what people who come on these boards say. I've been here for years and then some. But there is quite a bit to this story that, when someone
who comes along who was there from the start, someone who has a 50,000 word manuscript written up with details about the group that would make most anyone who was interested
in these lads wet themselves, I listen. And then on occasion I like to pass on what I'm told as long as the person telling me what was happening back in the early days wants
or needs to stay unknown and unpublished (that part sucks but he knows what happened to Mal Evans who wrote his memoirs then was gone).

There's more that is so unbelievable that it would be just crazy to post here because of reactions that would follow. So I'll leave those things alone. At least for now.

it's makes more sense to claim lennon was beaten in conjunction with mccartney's dissapearance in 66 than two years before when he looked healthy and happy. who is this guy with the 50k word book and the farfetched claims. would he come here and be questioned

But the 66 conspiracy theory is unquestionable? Even when so many people point out appearances of Faul in 63 64 and 65?

[ekauqodielak]

It's entirely questionable and anyone trying to shut down debate and inquiry clearly has no interest in the truth. It's also absurd to propose that research into the identification of a human being, research which by necessity must be conducted primarily through photographs, exclude all photographs of the subject(s) taken prior their becoming world famous. Nothing about that position can or should be taken seriously.

[beatlas231]

Oct 21, 2018 16:54:26 GMT -5 bandi said:

Hi B;

My friend who doesn't reside here in the USA and was there in England and then Canada with the lads and their handlers in the beginning years, mentioned to me more than
once how JL was smacked around
physically and was also taken out of circulation for a short period of time (removed from the group during their early years--mid '64)
and made to spend a week alone in a seedy run down apartment, literally under guard (not a military guard but an MI5/6 plain clothes type assembly/small group of men)
with a prison type menu of lousy food with zero entertainment/speed pills (very popular with the lads) zero women or night life, all because of his big, fat, loud, stupid
drunken mouth. He was warned to keep his mouth closed and to respect the handlers in the early days, but out of the four he was the loud one who could not do as he was told
especially when he felt the lads were even more important than they actually were.

Almost everything the group was being taught to do (how to seemingly act naturally--how to appear as cool as they really were in terms of possessing a lower than most
'big stars' egos and how to carry themselves like guys in suits and not toughsters in leather clothes anymore). JL had something to say, and as for his being warned---
not that he'd be killed but be made to 'pay' for his, again, big, fat, loud, stupid drunken acting out while 'training' was underway in the beginning--
not in the Hamburg days but after that period--after the world had their first tastes of the lads and couldn't get enough of them; which, for someone like JL, would be
the perfect time to start acting out because maybe he/the lads felt they should be earning more.

Remember, in the beginning the 'big basket' of $$$ was being stolen by the handlers, the 'filth' as they were called by the group...so, yes, not to mislead about being
'beaten up' but these guys were 'handled' by the handlers, and since I haven't been lied to yet by this man who was there from the very early days right thru Beatlemania,
I am just trying to convey this as it is told to me that to become good enough to be able to play their songs on TV and on the world stage in front of people they had to
be good enough at fingering chords and learning the changes without looking at their instruments; and the way JL had that fast tongue--his words that came out--I could
believe as it was told to me that he actually was knocked around for a short period to get him in line in the beginning.

I know how hard it is to believe what people who come on these boards say. I've been here for years and then some. But there is quite a bit to this story that, when someone
who comes along who was there from the start, someone who has a 50,000 word manuscript written up with details about the group that would make most anyone who was interested
in these lads wet themselves, I listen. And then on occasion I like to pass on what I'm told as long as the person telling me what was happening back in the early days wants
or needs to stay unknown and unpublished (that part sucks but he knows what happened to Mal Evans who wrote his memoirs then was gone).

There's more that is so unbelievable that it would be just crazy to post here because of reactions that would follow. So I'll leave those things alone. At least for now.

Is it Really that confusing to come on a message board? It’s funny because from my vantage point, I see more than just conspiracy theorists and more like actual people behind the postings. Does that mean I’m weird? Probably. Oh well, time to go come up with some crazy idea where I pretend to hack my own Facebook account and claim to be from Russia. (That turned out well LOL)

[beatlas231]

Sept 6, 2018 7:39:32 GMT -5 lil2022 said:

when will you all realise paul is paul and that is that? it's not an OPINION, it's the bloody truth.

lol she doesn’t realize who wrote the songs claiming Paul died


Wasn’t Lennon the one to write all the clues out there to cause a mass chaos in the news so that when he comes back in his next life he’d be able to fall back into the ever present past by literally stumbling out of the Time Machine