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Post by JoJo on Jun 19, 2007 17:00:29 GMT -5
The single version has the organ intro to the guitar solo. The other version has the guitar solo "rushing in" and nearly obscuring Preston's intro. I have the vinyl and will see if I can hear it. I have heard it on IAP's video and it's pretty clear. But I need to hear it from the original source before commenting on it's validity. A good idea. I've found the best way to really coax out something sung/spoken too quickly to hear is to do a time stretch; it's worked well with a few things in the past, the Pepper reprise for one. I made clips of the part in question, one normal speed, one stretched (2.5) X (length) www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/LIB_Sound_Clip/normal.wavwww.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/LIB_Sound_Clip/stretched.wavDon't bother trying this without headphones..
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Post by mysteryboy on Jun 19, 2007 20:22:16 GMT -5
The single version has the organ intro to the guitar solo. The other version has the guitar solo "rushing in" and nearly obscuring Preston's intro. I have the vinyl and will see if I can hear it. I have heard it on IAP's video and it's pretty clear. But I need to hear it from the original source before commenting on it's validity. A good idea. I've found the best way to really coax out something sung/spoken too quickly to hear is to do a time stretch; it's worked well with a few things in the past, the Pepper reprise for one. I made clips of the part in question, one normal speed, one stretched (2.5) X (length) www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/LIB_Sound_Clip/normal.wavwww.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/LIB_Sound_Clip/stretched.wavDon't bother trying this without headphones.. Confirmed. It's on the original vinyl 45, right channel.
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Post by Jude on Jun 20, 2007 4:33:12 GMT -5
It should be noted that the "skeptic's" version of this is that he's saying that John is saying "stop it", because Yoko keeps whispering in his ear while he was trying to do his best to play bass (something he was never really good at).
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Post by beatlies on Jun 20, 2007 4:48:23 GMT -5
Great videos, imaphoney! Many of those reversals are new to me. But video # 7 won't play for me. That's weird. The [yt] tags don't work for me. I can see the embedded videos on other people's posts, but not this one! Edit: Looks like there's a bug in the video embed code. I started a new thread and was able to embed a video there, just not in this thread.This video #7 and the Charles Manson-Beatles "Family" black ops, false flag killings are quite relevant to the Love code, methinks ...... 1234567 ......... A youtube comment on video 7: JimBoggia (9 hours ago) Marked as spam Dude, as is the case today - radio gets the record BEFORE it's released. Abbey Road was being played on the radio in Aug '69. Always good to see Mike Douglas, though. Is this true about it being heard on US radio in August 1969?
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Post by il ras on Jun 20, 2007 7:57:30 GMT -5
I would like to know if THIS is true.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helter_Skelter_%28Manson_scenario%29"Abbey Road was released in the United Kingdom in late September 1969,after the murders. By that time, most of the Family was at the group's camp in the Death Valley area, searching for the Bottomless Pit. Around October 1 (the U.S. release date), three Family members arrived at the camp with an advance copy of the album, which the group played on a battery-operated machine.
In the second week of October, the desert redoubts were raided by law officers who found the Family with stolen vehicles, including dune buggies; Manson and several others were arrested. By mid-November, when Manson had become a suspect in the Tate-LaBianca murders, Family members who had been released from jail had made their way back to Spahn Ranch. There, on November 25, 1969, LAPD confiscated a door on which someone had written "Helter Skelter is coming down fast."
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jun 20, 2007 11:54:01 GMT -5
Beatlies wrote: "Is this true about it being heard on US radio in August 1969?"
I'm fairly sure I heard it in early September on WVBR, Ithaca NY. (93.5 FM). The only reason I say "fairly sure" is because I don't remember the exact date, but my memories of what I was doing at the time would put it at between August 31st and September 13th or so.
And, yeh, I know, "If you remember the sixties, you weren't there" as David Crosby says, but I remember them, and I hadn't tried pot 'til about October. ;D
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Post by il ras on Jun 22, 2007 11:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 23, 2007 1:02:13 GMT -5
Playing songs before the album is released is somewhat standard...
the final mixing date for "You never/money" is listed as 8/14/69
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Post by il ras on Jun 24, 2007 8:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by mysteryboy on Jun 24, 2007 20:26:04 GMT -5
I was gonna say imitation is the sincerest form... but no, I made this.. www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/yesterdaybackandforth.mpgAlmost all the comments are quite negative, maybe that's why I never sent it to Youtube. (so I'm happy to let someone else take the heat) Still, 11,000 views and counting, and in little over a month, not bad. I was beginning to have doubts after WATCHING the first video. The voices seemed closer. But after just LISTENING to the one that you created, without the images, the differences are much more obvious. It shows how visually biased the human brain is. Well done! Thanks JoJo!
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Post by il ras on Jun 30, 2007 6:35:52 GMT -5
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jun 30, 2007 11:04:54 GMT -5
Hmmmm. The red CD in the video (Pause at 44 seconds) is "Thrills Thrillington", the recording Bill made with a Ram playing violin on the cover if I'm not mistaken. Are the speech reversals in the video from that CD? Or are they from the " liverpool sound collage" album? Or neither? Does anyone recognise their source? More about Thrills Thrillington at TKIN here: 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=faul&action=display&thread=1152460786&page=1and NIR references here: invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=members1&thread=1159144813&page=1At 21 seconds, the fellow who has left his car and is walking into the dessert crouches in front of what appears to possibly be a grave marker in the shape of a cross. There are letters on it. Is this supposed to be Paul's grave? Can anyone make out the letters on it? (Or maybe have the Photoshop skills to reduce the glare? ) I hear: "He was chummy; I'm thirsty. __(Glad?)____there were moments he's car near _(ixim?)______ He's the young Maximus, him. (script: His Royal Highness the King of Cosmania)_______ sing sing more______" Anyone else hear better? (Feel free to comment, iamaphoney!)The "flying disk" at the start suggests that "he wasn't from Earth" to me, but I already knew that from a thousand other clues. (Afterall, he was "king of the cosmos", apparently.) Is the emblem on the car door the "LOVE" logo? Did Iamaphoney win a visit to the gravesight for being the first to solve the mystery message? Nosey Folks are kinda wondering. btw: Interesting quote from Bill in the Larry King interview near the beginning* where the memorial is being 'dead'icated: "It is great to be unveiling this because the guys aren't here." *(4 mins to 4 mins 11 seconds) www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9vV-m_J-BoIt's supposed to mean John and George, but something about the way he says it..... And the part of the interview that iamaphoney used, in context, is at two minutes in, here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TiRb8rfpH0&NR=1
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Jun 30, 2007 14:29:10 GMT -5
Someone needs to reverse that bit of song, the "He was chummy, I'm thirsty" part.
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Post by Jude on Jul 1, 2007 3:32:57 GMT -5
He was charming and thirsty. And it doesn't sound like anything backwards. But what's interesting to me is that even though it really sounds like "He was charming and thirsy/He is the young Maximus him", when played backwards its a garbled version of Strawberry Fields Forever (how he does this and manages to keep the melody intact, I may never know; he pulled the same trick in RA 37). This isn't the first time iamaphoney refers to SSF. Is there anything significant in that song that we don't know about?
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Post by Jude on Jul 1, 2007 5:04:57 GMT -5
I looked up the word Maximus on Wikipedia. As a word it means "greatest" or "largest", but as a name, well.....these are just two of the ones that I thought were interesting. Maximus of Ephesus (d. 372) was a 4th century pagan Greek neo-Platonist. He was a friend and mentor of Emperor Julian and his collaborator in the restoration of paganism.
In the novel Julian by Gore Vidal, Maximus is one of the main characters; he is portrayed as a charlatan whose counsel is chiefly responsible for Julian's death. (Ironically, the name iamaphoney has a connection to Catcher in the Rye, the book famous for being in MDC's possesion when he shot John) Saint Maximus (d. 250) is a Christian saint and martyr.
The emperor Decius published a decree ordering the veneration of busts of the deified emperors. Failure to pay homage to these idols would be considered high treason, prosecuted by torture and death. The merchant Maximus, originally from Asia, was called before the consul Optimus. Maximus provided his name, profession and identity as a Christian.
When Optimus ordered Maximus to "Sacrifice to save your life; if not I shall make you die in torment," Maximus answered, "I have always wished it; it is in order to pass out of this short and miserable life to the life eternal that I have declared my faith."
Maximus was tortured on the rack and by being beaten with rods, but as would not recant Optimus ordered him lapidated. Accordingly, on May 4, 250, Maximus was led outside the city walls and stoned to death.
Evidence for his story comes from an acta that is part of the "proconsular acts," a text created by the clerk of the tribunal of the Roman Catholic Church that established the martyrology.
His feast day in the Roman Catholic Church is April 30. Incidentally, there seemed to have been a lot of martys named Maximus. Maximus can also refer to the Pontifex Maximus, which is one of the titles that is held by none other than the Pope. He's the young Maximus, him. (script: His Royal Highness the King of Cosmania)_______ sing sing more______" Anyone else hear better? (Feel free to comment, iamaphoney!)The "flying disk" at the start suggests that "he wasn't from Earth" to me, but I already knew that from a thousand other clues. (Afterall, he was "king of the cosmos", apparently.) Is the emblem on the car door the "LOVE" logo? "The King of Cosmania" is what Sir Paul calls himself in the Memory Almost Full liner notes. I thought the emblem on the car door was "LOVE", too. But then I paused, and saw this... ONO? Here we have what is presumably iamaphoney himself driving in the Nevada desert (stopping at a gravesite on the way to see Love, I assume ) in a yellow car that---I could be mistaken---has "ONO" written in red on the door. The plot thickens.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 1, 2007 16:15:55 GMT -5
It can't be ONO. It just can't. I wondered about all that subliminal stuff in the sky, too. Chemtrails? The gravesight may be on old Route 66 somewhere. It is linked to the mystery of Paul in a Neil Young song.
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Post by beatlies on Jul 1, 2007 16:41:09 GMT -5
I looked up the word Maximus on Wikipedia. As a word it means "greatest" or "largest", but as a name, well.....these are just two of the ones that I thought were interesting. Maximus of Ephesus (d. 372) was a 4th century pagan Greek neo-Platonist. He was a friend and mentor of Emperor Julian and his collaborator in the restoration of paganism.
In the novel Julian by Gore Vidal, Maximus is one of the main characters; he is portrayed as a charlatan whose counsel is chiefly responsible for Julian's death. (Ironically, the name iamaphoney has a connection to Catcher in the Rye, the book famous for being in MDC's possesion when he shot John) Saint Maximus (d. 250) is a Christian saint and martyr.
The emperor Decius published a decree ordering the veneration of busts of the deified emperors. Failure to pay homage to these idols would be considered high treason, prosecuted by torture and death. The merchant Maximus, originally from Asia, was called before the consul Optimus. Maximus provided his name, profession and identity as a Christian.
When Optimus ordered Maximus to "Sacrifice to save your life; if not I shall make you die in torment," Maximus answered, "I have always wished it; it is in order to pass out of this short and miserable life to the life eternal that I have declared my faith."
Maximus was tortured on the rack and by being beaten with rods, but as would not recant Optimus ordered him lapidated. Accordingly, on May 4, 250, Maximus was led outside the city walls and stoned to death.
Evidence for his story comes from an acta that is part of the "proconsular acts," a text created by the clerk of the tribunal of the Roman Catholic Church that established the martyrology.
His feast day in the Roman Catholic Church is April 30. Incidentally, there seemed to have been a lot of martys named Maximus. Maximus can also refer to the Pontifex Maximus, which is one of the titles that is held by none other than the Pope. He's the young Maximus, him. (script: His Royal Highness the King of Cosmania)_______ sing sing more______" Anyone else hear better? (Feel free to comment, iamaphoney!)The "flying disk" at the start suggests that "he wasn't from Earth" to me, but I already knew that from a thousand other clues. (Afterall, he was "king of the cosmos", apparently.) Is the emblem on the car door the "LOVE" logo? "The King of Cosmania" is what Sir Paul calls himself in the Memory Almost Full liner notes. I thought the emblem on the car door was "LOVE", too. But then I paused, and saw this... ONO? Here we have what is presumably iamaphoney himself driving in the Nevada desert (stopping at a gravesite on the way to see Love, I assume ) in a yellow car that---I could be mistaken---has "ONO" written in red on the door. The plot thickens.JULIAN is the name of John Lennon's song. Lennon who was so anti-Christian, as was Julian the Emperor who attempted to restore paganism in the Roman Empire. "Ju ju" eyeballs? "Jude"/"Jules" Family Jewels? "Maximus" --- From wikipedia: The Pontifex Maximus was the high priest of the Ancient Roman College of Pontiffs. This was the most important position in the Ancient Roman religion, open only to patricians, until 254 BC, when a plebeian first occupied this post. A distinctly religious office under the early Roman Republic, it gradually became politicized until, beginning with Augustus, it was subsumed into the Imperial office. It was last held by the Christian Roman Emperor Gratian until the title passed over to the Bishop of Rome.[1][2] Today, "Pontifex Maximus" is one of the titles of the Pope. As a papal title, the translation Supreme Pontiff is customary when writing in English, in which the Latin term Pontifex Maximus refers to the former pagan Roman post. But Latin is still the official language of the Catholic Church and of the Vatican, and the Latin form Pontifex Maximus is still used in reference to the Pope when writing or speaking in that language. The title appears regularly on buildings, monuments and coins (among other things) dedicated by or otherwise made during each specific pontificate. Also, like Le Cirque De Soleil, there was in ancient Rome the Circus Maximus.
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Post by Jude on Jul 1, 2007 23:25:44 GMT -5
It can't be ONO. It just can't. But it is..... it iiiisssssss...... Mwuhahahaha......Also, what Neil Young song are you referring to?
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 2, 2007 9:20:06 GMT -5
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Post by Jude on Jul 2, 2007 10:18:42 GMT -5
Sorry, I just don't see it.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 2, 2007 10:47:31 GMT -5
Well if you don't, you don't. All I'm saying is that iamaphoney may have found a gravemarker near old Route 66 that he felt was Paul's. The highway in his video may well be old route 66. I say that because the Last Trip To Tulsa song clearly points to old route 66, imo.
In the Bill song "Press" (from the "Press To Play" album), there are these lyrics:
"You can give me what I want I must confess, My body needs attention my mind is in a mess, Oklahoma was never like this. Never like this, it was never like this...."
Bill put clues in his songs, like this reference to "the Bible Belt"(imo) of the US in "Heart of the Country":
Heart of the country Where the holy people grow
but if people don't pick up on them, it's all for naught.
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Post by skyward on Jul 5, 2007 17:05:25 GMT -5
That's an interesting point Jude, though I thought I heard something like "now we say our grace to Paul" Something along those lines, I find it a little creepy to be honest. I heard "now we say our grace to Paul", too. On the youtube comment page, ghostysshow said he heard iamaphoney making a joke about Paul not being dead at all. But I really wasn't make an "interesting point" of it, iamaphoney really is singing (through a vocoder, I guess) "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7", etc.. Just download the second Mp3 I linked to, and you'll hear it too. What some people are actually trying to make sense of forwards is meaningless; did iamaphoney know that it sounded like "say our grace to Paul"? Probably. But the phrase is reversed in the original song, it sounds like Paul is saying "Let me go, Lord Lucifer". Neither are valid points, IMO, just reverse speech nonsense that sounds like something genuine. Hi, I'm new and I'm not sure what to make of this whole topic, but it is intriguing. In Rotten Apple #37 where there is the 'Now they say their grace to Paul' repeating lines, when you play it in reverse, I hear 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 all good children he is still alive. I think that is why the person on YouTube responded with that claim. It does sound like 'he is still alive' or 'Paul is still alive', I don't hear 'go to heaven'. In the latest, King of Cosmania clip. The guy shouting 'King of Cosmania' at the end, in reverse sounds like- 'I see somebody there'.? Where does the audio for the 'he is the young Maximus..' come from? It sounds like SFF. The ia in Cosmania seems to be a bluish-purple color, don't know if it's an artifact. Faul has a blackbird on his shirt? I think some of the videos can be dismissed, like the Chris Farley interview on SNL, or questioned, but some really seem to be on the mark. edit to add-- The cover of the Thrillington CD is a musician with a Ram head (Aries) with Mars (Ares) in the background. When the broken CD in the RottenApple 39 video comes together, the center cirlce resembles an orb, a star/sun? There are similar orbs/circles in the LOVE commercial. Then there is a picture of a bishop/cleric/priest with a similar hole/circle in the middle of their chest. Then there are all the text squares, are they biblical passages, then there are mysterious shapes with lines... It almost looks like the last two and a half letters in Cosmania are blue/purple, spelling out air in reverse. Air-ease Iamaphoney has progressively gotten better at producing these and it sure seems like he/she is purposefully dropping clues in there.
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Post by il ras on Jul 5, 2007 20:25:00 GMT -5
The cover of the Thrillington CD is a musician with a Ram head (Ares) with Mars in the background. You meant Aries. Actually Ares is the name of Mars (the god) in ancient Greek. A coincidence?
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Post by skyward on Jul 5, 2007 20:38:25 GMT -5
The cover of the Thrillington CD is a musician with a Ram head (Ares) with Mars in the background. You meant Aries. Actually Ares is the name of Mars (the god) in ancient Greek. A coincidence? I did a quick search on any links, and in horoscope thought (astrology), Mars(Ares) is the ruling planet of Aries. Then there is the whole sacrifice a Ram, the Golden Fleece in the Temple (Sacred Grove) of Ares; Jason and the Argonauts. The Golden Fleece representing enlightenment and intellect. In the myth, two siblings rode through the air on the fleece and one fell off and drowned.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 5, 2007 21:33:06 GMT -5
www.pantheon.org/articles/g/golden_fleece.htmlGolden Fleece by James Hunter The Golden Fleece was the treasure sought by Jason and the Argonauts. It originated in the following fashion. Phrixus and Helle were the children of Athamus and the goddess Nephele. When Athamas remarried, the children's stepmother, Ino, became jealous of them and plotted to get rid of them. She arranged to have seed-corn roasted so that it would not sprout. When the crop failed, messengers were sent to consult the oracle at Delphi, and Ino persuaded the messengers to say that that the oracle required the sacrifice of Phrixus to restore fertility to the fields. Before Phrixus could be sacrificed, however, Nephele sent a golden ram which carried both children off through the air. Helle fell into the Hellespont (which was named after her), but Phrixus arrived safely at Colchis, where he married the daughter of King Aeetes. Phrixus sacrificed the ram to Zeus, and gave its pelt (the Golden Fleece) to Aeetes. Aeetes placed the fleece in an oak tree, where it remained until Jason arrived to claim it." uh....yeah....
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