Jude
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Post by Jude on Jun 15, 2007 13:51:17 GMT -5
That's an interesting point Jude, though I thought I heard something like "now we say our grace to Paul" Something along those lines, I find it a little creepy to be honest. I heard "now we say our grace to Paul", too. On the youtube comment page, ghostysshow said he heard iamaphoney making a joke about Paul not being dead at all. But I really wasn't make an "interesting point" of it, iamaphoney really is singing (through a vocoder, I guess) "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7", etc.. Just download the second Mp3 I linked to, and you'll hear it too. What some people are actually trying to make sense of forwards is meaningless; did iamaphoney know that it sounded like "say our grace to Paul"? Probably. But the phrase is reversed in the original song, it sounds like Paul is saying "Let me go, Lord Lucifer". Neither are valid points, IMO, just reverse speech nonsense that sounds like something genuine.
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Post by Jude on Jun 15, 2007 14:02:22 GMT -5
"1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ......" is at the closing of "You Never Give Me Your Money" and it segues into "Sun King" (nus gnik). It is featured, with Sun King (Emperor Hirohito?) in All This and World War II . From wikipedia: You Never Give Me Your Money From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search "You Never Give Me Your Money" "You Never Give Me Your Money" is a song by The Beatles that opens the climactic medley on side two of the album Abbey Road. It was mainly written by Paul McCartney (though attributed to Lennon-McCartney). The song begins with two verses sung by McCartney in a large-sound, almost classical style. This is followed by a section played in a double time swing feel with McCartney switching to a more nasal vocal style, using a baritone voice which contrasts the song's somewhat poignant lyrics. It follows a highly composed instrumental interlude with George Harrison's aggressive blues rock-style and a concluding unisono line between guitar and bass. The song fades out with a chant reminiscent of a nursery rhyme, set to a Harrison guitar riff similar to a previous album track, "Here Comes the Sun" (in turn based on a previous Harrison/Eric Clapton composition, "Badge"). The riff will return later in the medley's track "Carry That Weight". The song's production is notable for prominent use of leslie-amplified, arpeggiated guitar parts, which would become synonymous with the late-era Beatles sound. It segues into "Sun King" Then perhaps the code lies within Gnik Nus, or Here Comes the Sun. I personally believe iamaphoney when he says he cracked the code. He's not making these videos just for giggles, and he means it when he says he will release a DVD in February 2008.
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Jun 15, 2007 18:19:15 GMT -5
I heard it as "Elephants say their grace to Paul"
Catchy!
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 16, 2007 5:01:36 GMT -5
That's an interesting point Jude, though I thought I heard something like "now we say our grace to Paul" Something along those lines, I find it a little creepy to be honest. I heard "now we say our grace to Paul", too. On the youtube comment page, ghostysshow said he heard iamaphoney making a joke about Paul not being dead at all. But I really wasn't make an "interesting point" of it, iamaphoney really is singing (through a vocoder, I guess) "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7", etc.. Just download the second Mp3 I linked to, and you'll hear it too. What some people are actually trying to make sense of forwards is meaningless; did iamaphoney know that it sounded like "say our grace to Paul"? Probably. But the phrase is reversed in the original song, it sounds like Paul is saying "Let me go, Lord Lucifer". Neither are valid points, IMO, just reverse speech nonsense that sounds like something genuine. I dunno, I think reverse speech works most of the time and I don't see why he would have bothered using it if it was meaningless.
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Post by Jude on Jun 16, 2007 5:13:20 GMT -5
Have you watched the rest of the series? He uses hacked up, reversed Beatles songs all the time as backrgound music, usually just to be creepy. I wouldn't rule out the forwards version meaning anything, but what you must understand is that he spoke it backwards so that forwards (which is reversed to us) it would sound like "1234567, all good children go to heaven". The first half of the phrase is very clear, but the "children" part is slurred, likely because (A), he's not Faul, and (B).....uhh.....he's not Faul. ;D So of course it's not perfect, but what can you do when you're trying to intentionally create a backwards message? It's not as easy as it seems.
I'm a strong believer in reverse speech, but I don't really know whether it's even possible to intentionally send a message out when speaking forwards. The best one can do is concentrate really hard so that you subconscious mind can do it's thing, but even then we're dealing with pseudoscience, so it's really hard to say. Either the voice loop used in the video is the code itself and was directly taken from the album (not likely), or iamaphoney was deliberately trying to recreate the end of YNGMYM.
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Post by beatlies on Jun 17, 2007 0:41:45 GMT -5
I heard it as "Elephants say their grace to Paul" Catchy! I heard "elephants say ......" for alittle while too. Also "Eminent Satan grace to Paul" (or "graze to Paul.") Naturally, both could refer to the Republican Party. 1234567 ..... appeared on the Charles Manson murders grafitti clues door, the photo is in the book Helter Skelter, a month before the Abbey Road album was released, and allegedly had key symbolic meaning for the Manson followers. The "Love" code that iamaphoney says he has cracked may involve information on the false flag, staged provocation Manson Family killings and their Beatles links.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 17, 2007 17:30:39 GMT -5
I've had a bit of a problem with his credibility ever since he played a portion of Let It Be where he seemingly "extracted" someone whispering "Paul is dead". Folks, it just ain't there, sorry, and I have every version possible except the vinyl but.. it didn't sound like a vinyl rip anyway, too clean. There's nothing he does that can't be duplicated with a little experimentation with Audacity.
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 17, 2007 17:34:41 GMT -5
but what you must understand is A little less patronising would be nice! Anyway, listening again to the vid could it be saying "prayers to Paul?"
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Post by il ras on Jun 17, 2007 19:35:45 GMT -5
# 38
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Post by il ras on Jun 17, 2007 19:37:04 GMT -5
About #37...
Finnegan, a friend of mine can hear:
This is how for few ther's no endless (to) say their grace to fall
or
This is how for few there's no never they/let say their grace to fall
What do u think?
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Post by JoJo on Jun 17, 2007 20:41:45 GMT -5
# 38 Not bad, I noticed this one a while ago in the video this is from, Bill saying "The Beatles were a set up affair" when he joined. If he meant The Quarrymen, a group of guys playing skilffle when they could..doesn't quite make the grade.
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Post by Jude on Jun 17, 2007 23:28:12 GMT -5
# 38 Not bad, I noticed this one a while ago in the video this is from, Bill saying "The Beatles were a set up affair" when he joined. If he meant The Quarrymen, a group of guys playing skilffle when they could..doesn't quite make the grade. Oh my God, he updated it already?! How is it that I visit his youtube channel religiously[/i], several times a day, and yet I'm always (at the least) a few hours late whenever there is a new one? It's been a long time since he updated so soon after. I really thought he was going to keep going with the whole "post around the 12 or 13 of every month" thing. Never get to be the first to comment....*grumble*, *grumble*...and I'm his #1 fan, *grumble*, *grumble*....
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Jun 18, 2007 1:32:36 GMT -5
I sent iamaphoney a message telling him he should make his next installment a response to McCartney's Dance Tonight video. Seeing as how that's his official account (doubtful that he uses it himself) they would definitely have to take notice or something (if they haven't already).
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Post by Jude on Jun 18, 2007 2:26:56 GMT -5
but what you must understand is A little less patronising would be nice! Anyway, listening again to the vid could it be saying "prayers to Paul?" Jeez. I'm not the most eloquent of speakers, but even so I didn't think you'd get so offended. Sorry. But how can I possibly say something like "you've all got it very, very wrong because it's nearly impossible to intentionally speak words backwards and still create something meaningful forwards, which would mean that he's not saying "elephants say their grace to Paul" or anything of the sort, he was merely trying to sing the end of You Never Give Me Your Money in reverse"...... without seeming abrasive? I can't; someone will get offended no matter how I word it. But that's my two cents: that iamaphoney didn't mean to cause a big hunt for the meaning of "say our grace to Paul", nor was he making allusions to the Republican party. That's looking way too deep into things. You need to first ask yourselves: is it even possible that it means something forwards and backwards at the same time? The teachings of reversespeech are that the subconscious mind conveys meaningful messages in our forwards speak.... not the conscious one, which is why it would be silly to think that John would intentionally have said "we'll be in reverse" in Strawberry Fields. That's the spirit, the subconscious voice, if anything.
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Post by Jude on Jun 18, 2007 2:29:06 GMT -5
I sent iamaphoney a message telling him he should make his next installment a response to McCartney's Dance Tonight video. Seeing as how that's his official account (doubtful that he uses it himself) they would definitely have to take notice or something (if they haven't already). Well, he did say a while back that Apple was trying to shut him down...
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 18, 2007 5:48:53 GMT -5
A little less patronising would be nice! Anyway, listening again to the vid could it be saying "prayers to Paul?" Jeez. I'm not the most eloquent of speakers, but even so I didn't think you'd get so offended. Sorry. But how can I possibly say something like "you've all got it very, very wrong because it's nearly impossible to intentionally speak words backwards and still create something meaningful forwards, which would mean that he's not saying "elephants say their grace to Paul" or anything of the sort, he was merely trying to sing the end of You Never Give Me Your Money in reverse"...... without seeming abrasive? I can't; someone will get offended no matter how I word it. But that's my two cents: that iamaphoney didn't mean to cause a big hunt for the meaning of "say our grace to Paul", nor was he making allusions to the Republican party. That's looking way too deep into things. You need to first ask yourselves: is it even possible that it means something forwards and backwards at the same time? The teachings of reversespeech are that the subconscious mind conveys meaningful messages in our forwards speak.... not the conscious one, which is why it would be silly to think that John would intentionally have said "we'll be in reverse" in Strawberry Fields. That's the spirit, the subconscious voice, if anything. Mate, I got it the first time, I just disagreed! Forget about it.
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 18, 2007 9:41:31 GMT -5
I've been doing my own voice experiments and I think that "One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven" says in reverse "No excuse now, Paul's <something> to us now"
Anyone else hear that?
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Post by Jude on Jun 18, 2007 19:51:05 GMT -5
I've had a bit of a problem with his credibility ever since he played a portion of Let It Be where he seemingly "extracted" someone whispering "Paul is dead". Folks, it just ain't there, sorry, and I have every version possible except the vinyl but.. it didn't sound like a vinyl rip anyway, too clean. *cough**cough* *COUGHIT'SINTHISVERSION**cough* Excuse me. I'm feeling a little under the weather today, heh.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 18, 2007 20:33:09 GMT -5
Heh OK, I'm all ears.. Except you have exceded your data transfer limit. (link doesn't work) Could do me a favor and upload to my site as described here? (ignore the fle size business, I'm pretty sure I changed that)
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Jun 18, 2007 21:20:22 GMT -5
No, it really is there. I heard it on the Beatles 1 album. I was listening with a good pair of headphones turned all the way up.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 18, 2007 21:34:25 GMT -5
That's one I listened to, and while there was *something*, I didn't hear "Paul is dead", more like a drum symbol hit with a brush, best I can describe. Jude, which version did you upload?
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Post by Jude on Jun 18, 2007 23:52:01 GMT -5
Consider it uploaded. (delete the other file, that was a mistake) I think it's the single version. If you've done your homework as well as I think you have then you know that there was a single release of Let it Be that was different than the album version (it has a very different guitar solo). Some people must prefer this version, because nearly every time I watch any kind of fan-made video on YouTube featuring this song, this is the version they always choose. You can hear it in the background during "for though they may be parted". Any kind of vocal removing tool/Winamp plugin would help, of course, but I think it's possible to hear it without any assistance from such things.
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Post by beatlies on Jun 19, 2007 0:23:40 GMT -5
No, it really is there. I heard it on the Beatles 1 album. I was listening with a good pair of headphones turned all the way up. Agree, it's there.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 19, 2007 5:04:02 GMT -5
Yes, the "what" that is there is there in your version, just well.. I'll isolate it out and play with the pitch/speed etc. when I have a chance.
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Post by mysteryboy on Jun 19, 2007 15:57:54 GMT -5
Consider it uploaded. (delete the other file, that was a mistake) I think it's the single version. If you've done your homework as well as I think you have then you know that there was a single release of Let it Be that was different than the album version (it has a very different guitar solo). Some people must prefer this version, because nearly every time I watch any kind of fan-made video on YouTube featuring this song, this is the version they always choose. You can hear it in the background during "for though they may be parted". Any kind of vocal removing tool/Winamp plugin would help, of course, but I think it's possible to hear it without any assistance from such things. The single version has the organ intro to the guitar solo. The other version has the guitar solo "rushing in" and nearly obscuring Preston's intro. I have the vinyl and will see if I can hear it. I have heard it on IAP's video and it's pretty clear. But I need to hear it from the original source before commenting on it's validity.
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