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Post by beatles1966 on Dec 16, 2021 19:28:47 GMT -5
Anybody on here willing to share/upload now-deleted/lost PID related videos/images/etc?
I was able to save a lot of them about a decade ago, but there's still missing videos out there, like from GnikNusEht and MilesDeo. I would love to get those someday.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Dec 17, 2021 1:05:17 GMT -5
Anybody on here willing to share/upload now-deleted/lost PID related videos/images/etc? I was able to save a lot of them about a decade ago, but there's still missing videos out there, like from GnikNusEht and MilesDeo. I would love to get those someday. I don't know if I have that specific stuff, but I have everything that was still live on JoJo's site shortly before it closed. As well as a lot of material from the now defunct Beatles multiples sites/boards. If you want any of that, let me know & I can toss it back up on a cloud.
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Post by beatles1966 on Dec 17, 2021 17:28:33 GMT -5
Anybody on here willing to share/upload now-deleted/lost PID related videos/images/etc? I was able to save a lot of them about a decade ago, but there's still missing videos out there, like from GnikNusEht and MilesDeo. I would love to get those someday. I don't know if I have that specific stuff, but I have everything that was still live on JoJo's site shortly before it closed. As well as a lot of material from the now defunct Beatles multiples sites/boards. If you want any of that, let me know & I can toss it back up on a cloud. Do you have stuff from that old Miss Him Miss Him forum? I used to read it about 11 years ago while at school doing my senior project, lol. Yeah, anything you have would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by mrshepherd on Dec 28, 2021 3:33:02 GMT -5
Anybody on here willing to share/upload now-deleted/lost PID related videos/images/etc? I was able to save a lot of them about a decade ago, but there's still missing videos out there, like from GnikNusEht and MilesDeo. I would love to get those someday. well, there isn't much. There is something called the Condensed Cream of the Beatles made in 1974 i think, which is partially preserved and can be found online (https://youtu.be/ZQ1UpkV_CL4); then there would be a video made by Iamaphoney which was deleted, in which there is an image from a newspaper article of what looks to be William before his surgery with his head bandaged . I might have that one actually, on my computer.
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Post by beatles1966 on Jan 11, 2022 19:30:56 GMT -5
Anybody on here willing to share/upload now-deleted/lost PID related videos/images/etc? I was able to save a lot of them about a decade ago, but there's still missing videos out there, like from GnikNusEht and MilesDeo. I would love to get those someday. I don't know if I have that specific stuff, but I have everything that was still live on JoJo's site shortly before it closed. As well as a lot of material from the now defunct Beatles multiples sites/boards. If you want any of that, let me know & I can toss it back up on a cloud. Any updates on being able to share this stuff? I'd really appreciate it.
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Post by beatles1966 on Feb 8, 2022 20:27:11 GMT -5
Any updates?
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Post by ekauqodielak on Feb 13, 2022 20:07:18 GMT -5
I don't know if I have that specific stuff, but I have everything that was still live on JoJo's site shortly before it closed. As well as a lot of material from the now defunct Beatles multiples sites/boards. If you want any of that, let me know & I can toss it back up on a cloud. Any updates on being able to share this stuff? I'd really appreciate it. Sorry, I'm dealing with a health quagmire and things are really chaotic and I just keep avoiding going into my study, which has the drives attached to the server that contain all the downloaded material, because the entire room is stress related for me right now. I haven't forgotten, though.
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Post by beatles1966 on Feb 14, 2022 18:09:52 GMT -5
Any updates on being able to share this stuff? I'd really appreciate it. Sorry, I'm dealing with a health quagmire and things are really chaotic and I just keep avoiding going into my study, which has the drives attached to the server that contain all the downloaded material, because the entire room is stress related for me right now. I haven't forgotten, though. Very sorry to hear. I hope things get better. I've had health problems too.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Feb 18, 2022 13:37:30 GMT -5
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Post by beatles1966 on Feb 19, 2022 15:38:32 GMT -5
Thank you so much for this. The one video series I'd love to have a complete collection of, is YouKnowMyName231. His videos truly were the best on the subject. Probably why they were removed, said too much at the time that was the truth. They're still on YouTube, but if you go to the links, they're private. They're not deleted.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Feb 19, 2022 18:10:22 GMT -5
Thank you so much for this. The one video series I'd love to have a complete collection of, is YouKnowMyName231. His videos truly were the best on the subject. Probably why they were removed, said too much at the time that was the truth. They're still on YouTube, but if you go to the links, they're private. They're not deleted. You're welcome. Enjoy. They don't show up at all for me. Is that the same user as the other IAmAPhonies?
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Post by beatles1966 on Feb 20, 2022 13:52:02 GMT -5
Thank you so much for this. The one video series I'd love to have a complete collection of, is YouKnowMyName231. His videos truly were the best on the subject. Probably why they were removed, said too much at the time that was the truth. They're still on YouTube, but if you go to the links, they're private. They're not deleted. You're welcome. Enjoy. They don't show up at all for me. Is that the same user as the other IAmAPhonies? It was never confirmed that it was an IAAP alt account, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were in the same circle. YKMN231's videos were a lot less sensationalist, and viewed PID through a sort of perennialist/gnostic perspective, which was very interesting and probably the most correct interpretation of PID that I've seen. YKMN231 uploaded most of his videos around 2007/2008, and made them all private in 2013 I believe. Some of them are saved, but I'd say about 20-30% of his videos are lost. If you go to his YouTube account, it shows that the videos were privated, not deleted. Some have been deleted, but not all of them.
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Post by joseph on Feb 20, 2022 15:58:39 GMT -5
You're welcome. Enjoy. They don't show up at all for me. Is that the same user as the other IAmAPhonies? It was never confirmed that it was an IAAP alt account, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were in the same circle. YKMN231's videos were a lot less sensationalist, and viewed PID through a sort of perennialist/gnostic perspective, which was very interesting and probably the most correct interpretation of PID that I've seen. YKMN231 uploaded most of his videos around 2007/2008, and made them all private in 2013 I believe. Some of them are saved, but I'd say about 20-30% of his videos are lost. If you go to his YouTube account, it shows that the videos were privated, not deleted. Some have been deleted, but not all of them. The only perspectives PID should be seen through are psychiatric and legal. This is not a branch of the entertainment industry - not even if you're mentally ill.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Feb 20, 2022 18:52:17 GMT -5
You're welcome. Enjoy. They don't show up at all for me. Is that the same user as the other IAmAPhonies? It was never confirmed that it was an IAAP alt account, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were in the same circle. YKMN231's videos were a lot less sensationalist, and viewed PID through a sort of perennialist/gnostic perspective, which was very interesting and probably the most correct interpretation of PID that I've seen. YKMN231 uploaded most of his videos around 2007/2008, and made them all private in 2013 I believe. Some of them are saved, but I'd say about 20-30% of his videos are lost. If you go to his YouTube account, it shows that the videos were privated, not deleted. Some have been deleted, but not all of them. Yeah, I noticed afterward that PIDArchive has about 20 (?) or so of them saved in a playlist. I wonder if anyone has the rest.
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Post by beatles1966 on Feb 21, 2022 18:11:25 GMT -5
It was never confirmed that it was an IAAP alt account, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were in the same circle. YKMN231's videos were a lot less sensationalist, and viewed PID through a sort of perennialist/gnostic perspective, which was very interesting and probably the most correct interpretation of PID that I've seen. YKMN231 uploaded most of his videos around 2007/2008, and made them all private in 2013 I believe. Some of them are saved, but I'd say about 20-30% of his videos are lost. If you go to his YouTube account, it shows that the videos were privated, not deleted. Some have been deleted, but not all of them. The only perspectives PID should be seen through are psychiatric and legal. This is not a branch of the entertainment industry - not even if you're mentally ill. Strongly disagree, interpreting PID as a purely physical phenomenon is way off the mark. The public in 1969 did the same thing instead of understanding the metaphorical messages behind it.
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Post by joseph on Feb 22, 2022 6:06:59 GMT -5
The only perspectives PID should be seen through are psychiatric and legal. This is not a branch of the entertainment industry - not even if you're mentally ill. Strongly disagree, interpreting PID as a purely physical phenomenon is way off the mark. The public in 1969 did the same thing instead of understanding the metaphorical messages behind it. Sorry, but I can't do the understanding thing for the works of mass murderers. There have been many public figures killed and replaced before and after The Beatles, so if you're just hanging around the PID deception looking for entertainment consumables, you're outing yourself as being sick in the head.
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Post by kvo on Feb 22, 2022 11:55:59 GMT -5
Thank you so much for this. The one video series I'd love to have a complete collection of, is YouKnowMyName231. His videos truly were the best on the subject. Probably why they were removed, said too much at the time that was the truth. They're still on YouTube, but if you go to the links, they're private. They're not deleted. You're welcome. Enjoy. They don't show up at all for me. Is that the same user as the other IAmAPhonies? Thanks so much for providing us with your trove of files. I am mainly interested in the Beatles Never Existed site. The files for that site unzipped and downloaded for me, though some files seem to be empty. I am still going through the downloads. It seems that the site owner put forth the theory of clones/cyborgs, as many have done. But if cloning is a real thing, I wouldn't think that the Beatle wigs, heavy make-up and prosthetics would have been necessary. And these tactics were clearly employed. Disguises is a more down to earth explanation, I think. Though I have considered the outside possibility of that an unknown agent akin to Thalidomide, but one used to effectuate multiple births, could have been in play. Mengele experimental stuff, but that also seems rather far-fetched. I did notice a photo comparison among the Beatles Never Existed files using a very early Paul image and a 1967 Paul. The early image appears on the Meet the Beatles for Real site but gives no date. It says "Cheryl's own snapshot of Paul getting into his car". I already had that early Paul saved on my computer. I grabbed and saved it last summer and it was one among several images that convinced me that the 66er story was incorrect. The Beatles Never Existed site labeled the early Paul photo as "Paul McCartney" and the 1967 Paul image as a CIA impersonator. Interestingly, the early photo shows a man who is most decidedly NOT all cute and doe-eyed. He has short brows, large folded ears, and a short square chin. Apparently either the Beatles Never Existed site owner or some contributor felt that the early image was biologic Paul McCartney. Hmmmm......
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Post by ekauqodielak on Feb 22, 2022 15:19:31 GMT -5
You're welcome. Enjoy. They don't show up at all for me. Is that the same user as the other IAmAPhonies? Thanks so much for providing us with your trove of files. I am mainly interested in the Beatles Never Existed site. The files for that site unzipped and downloaded for me, though some files seem to be empty. I am still going through the downloads. It seems that the site owner put forth the theory of clones/cyborgs, as many have done. But if cloning is a real thing, I wouldn't think that the Beatle wigs, heavy make-up and prosthetics would have been necessary. And these tactics were clearly employed. Disguises is a more down to earth explanation, I think. Though I have considered the outside possibility of that an unknown agent akin to Thalidomide, but one used to effectuate multiple births, could have been in play. Mengele experimental stuff, but that also seems rather far-fetched. I did notice a photo comparison among the Beatles Never Existed files using a very early Paul image and a 1967 Paul. The early image appears on the Meet the Beatles for Real site but gives no date. It says "Cheryl's own snapshot of Paul getting into his car". I already had that early Paul saved on my computer. I grabbed and saved it last summer and it was one among several images that convinced me that the 66er story was incorrect. The Beatles Never Existed site labeled the early Paul photo as "Paul McCartney" and the 1967 Paul image as a CIA impersonator. Interestingly, the early photo shows a man who is most decidedly NOT all cute and doe-eyed. He has short brows, large folded ears, and a short square chin. Apparently either the Beatles Never Existed site owner or some contributor felt that the early image was biologic Paul McCartney. Hmmmm...... Yeah…the people who were running that site, who actually used to post here for a bit, sort of expanded their theory to include clones at some point not long before they took their site down. I don't subscribe to that for a variety of reasons, most obviously because if clones were being used no one would have ever noticed any differences between them. I also don't think the tech is there yet; though, I could humor a theory about IVF, or the like, gestated multiples, I guess. However, none of the Pauls even look enough alike to me, in the areas where siblings tend to show facial similarities, for that to seem reasonable. I agree with the site that the earliest Paul(s) were not at all Teen Beat material. So, with archive.org, the site's crawlers will take snapshots of a site on a given day -- and you can also direct it to snapshot a site. The spyders don't grab everything and, particularly with a site like The Beatles Never Existed, which fairly frequently changed their pages or would remove some entirely, you'll get some data dead ends and have to scrape various days to get the bulk of the material. Some of it never gets archived to be scraped later. I'm still very curious about why so many of the Beatles Multiples sites went down around the same time. And you're more than welcome. I'd intended, early on, to get a site of some sort going where all that info would be publicly available for anyone interested again. But other things took and continue to take priority.
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Post by kvo on Feb 22, 2022 19:07:43 GMT -5
Thanks so much for providing us with your trove of files. I am mainly interested in the Beatles Never Existed site. The files for that site unzipped and downloaded for me, though some files seem to be empty. I am still going through the downloads. It seems that the site owner put forth the theory of clones/cyborgs, as many have done. But if cloning is a real thing, I wouldn't think that the Beatle wigs, heavy make-up and prosthetics would have been necessary. And these tactics were clearly employed. Disguises is a more down to earth explanation, I think. Though I have considered the outside possibility of that an unknown agent akin to Thalidomide, but one used to effectuate multiple births, could have been in play. Mengele experimental stuff, but that also seems rather far-fetched. I did notice a photo comparison among the Beatles Never Existed files using a very early Paul image and a 1967 Paul. The early image appears on the Meet the Beatles for Real site but gives no date. It says "Cheryl's own snapshot of Paul getting into his car". I already had that early Paul saved on my computer. I grabbed and saved it last summer and it was one among several images that convinced me that the 66er story was incorrect. The Beatles Never Existed site labeled the early Paul photo as "Paul McCartney" and the 1967 Paul image as a CIA impersonator. Interestingly, the early photo shows a man who is most decidedly NOT all cute and doe-eyed. He has short brows, large folded ears, and a short square chin. Apparently either the Beatles Never Existed site owner or some contributor felt that the early image was biologic Paul McCartney. Hmmmm...... Yeah…the people who were running that site, who actually used to post here for a bit, sort of expanded their theory to include clones at some point not long before they took their site down. I don't subscribe to that for a variety of reasons, most obviously because if clones were being used no one would have ever noticed any differences between them. I also don't think the tech is there yet; though, I could humor a theory about IVF, or the like, gestated multiples, I guess. However, none of the Pauls even look enough alike to me, in the areas where siblings tend to show facial similarities, for that to seem reasonable. I agree with the site that the earliest Paul(s) were not at all Teen Beat material. So, with archive.org, the site's crawlers will take snapshots of a site on a given day -- and you can also direct it to snapshot a site. The spyders don't grab everything and, particularly with a site like The Beatles Never Existed, which fairly frequently changed their pages or would remove some entirely, you'll get some data dead ends and have to scrape various days to get the bulk of the material. Some of it never gets archived to be scraped later. I'm still very curious about why so many of the Beatles Multiples sites went down around the same time. And you're more than welcome. I'd intended, early on, to get a site of some sort going where all that info would be publicly available for anyone interested again. But other things took and continue to take priority. Nope. Can't imagine some of those early Pauls preening and posing for Gloria Stavers the way Morrison did to get his picture in 16 Magazine or Tiger Beat. Or being able to pull off anything like Morrison's Young Lion session with Brodsky. Considering this angle, I can see why a very specific image for Paul was needed to launch Beatlemania. What precisely became of the early Pauls is my question, as well as where they came from.
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Post by beatles1966 on Feb 23, 2022 20:11:15 GMT -5
Strongly disagree, interpreting PID as a purely physical phenomenon is way off the mark. The public in 1969 did the same thing instead of understanding the metaphorical messages behind it. Sorry, but I can't do the understanding thing for the works of mass murderers. There have been many public figures killed and replaced before and after The Beatles, so if you're just hanging around the PID deception looking for entertainment consumables, you're outing yourself as being sick in the head. I miss when this forum was full of very clever people who knew how to interpret the occult/esoteric symbolism in the Beatles work, and works surrounding the Beatles, and wasn't a ghost town with people saying things that would be even too loony for the old David Icke forum. Less "Brian Epstein was replaced by Don Knotts"-type people, please. I don't know how you can see Iamaphoney's videos, the one YouTube channel that has a good chance of being actually connected to McCartney, and come back with whatever it is you personally believe about the Beatles. The videos make it pretty clear in certain instances what happened.
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Post by joseph on Feb 23, 2022 22:34:17 GMT -5
Sorry, but I can't do the understanding thing for the works of mass murderers. There have been many public figures killed and replaced before and after The Beatles, so if you're just hanging around the PID deception looking for entertainment consumables, you're outing yourself as being sick in the head. I miss when this forum was full of very clever people who knew how to interpret the occult/esoteric symbolism in the Beatles work, and works surrounding the Beatles, and wasn't a ghost town with people saying things that would be even too loony for the old David Icke forum. Less "Brian Epstein was replaced by Don Knotts"-type people, please. I don't know how you can see Iamaphoney's videos, the one YouTube channel that has a good chance of being actually connected to McCartney, and come back with whatever it is you personally believe about the Beatles. The videos make it pretty clear in certain instances what happened. Iamaphoney's esoteric mumbo jumbo is as clear as mud by design. This is the purpose of the sanctioned Paul is dead "conspiracy theory" - to ensure innocent investigators don't discover the truth. The PID genre is mostly populated by anonymous people who KNOW all The Beatles were replaced with imposters and hide behind PID's built in plausible deniability. You just can't stand that my intellect and vision are of such a high standard that I can detect imposter replacents from Sergei Eisenstein to Bruce Springsteen, so you try to project on to me professional loonies like David Icke and distractive sub genres of PID like "Jimmy Carter is JFK" or "Chance the Rapper cloned himself" Trying to discredit me as a conspiracy theorist or accuse me of having personality defects on a forum called "Nothing Is Real/Paul Was Replaced" is not a good look. I am not falling for the controlled narratives.
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Post by kvo on Feb 24, 2022 9:28:01 GMT -5
Sorry, but I can't do the understanding thing for the works of mass murderers. There have been many public figures killed and replaced before and after The Beatles, so if you're just hanging around the PID deception looking for entertainment consumables, you're outing yourself as being sick in the head. I miss when this forum was full of very clever people who knew how to interpret the occult/esoteric symbolism in the Beatles work, and works surrounding the Beatles, and wasn't a ghost town with people saying things that would be even too loony for the old David Icke forum. Less "Brian Epstein was replaced by Don Knotts"-type people, please. I don't know how you can see Iamaphoney's videos, the one YouTube channel that has a good chance of being actually connected to McCartney, and come back with whatever it is you personally believe about the Beatles. The videos make it pretty clear in certain instances what happened. Yes, there were those here who knew how to interpret the esoteric/religious symbolism surrounding the Beatles. The sun symbolism in the lyrics and on album covers, for instance. Letter B of course, is still here. And he contributed quite a lot toward unlocking those meanings for the rest of us. Unfortunately, I think the Let it Be production has gone a long way toward indoctrinating a whole new generation into believing the Beatles were just four very lucky, talented guys who came together and the GOAT band was born. Nothing to see here, new generation. No deeper mysteries in songs, album covers or promotional films, no fluctuations in appearance in these four guys, no religious/esoteric meanings to be examined. On the other hand, this board does seem to attract hundreds of lurkers on a daily basis. An indication that some are interested, and THINKING. Personally, I'm not surprised the Let it Be production somehow ended up being associated/distributed by Disney. Disney is often associated with the stars and moon symbolism ("when you wish upon a star"). Here is a link to a 1980s McCartney interview. Note the lapel pins. Looks like a star and a moon to me. So, yep, the symbolism has always been there. www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoKI-5VZmvE
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Post by paulmoran on Mar 3, 2022 19:31:44 GMT -5
I have some of grandfatheraleister's videos from his first YouTube channel before it was deleted.
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Post by B on Mar 3, 2022 19:46:08 GMT -5
paulmoran, We would love to have you post them here! Please do so at your convenience!
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Post by paulmoran on Mar 3, 2022 20:12:37 GMT -5
paulmoran, We would love to have you post them here! Please do so at your convenience! Sure. I will have a look for them when I have some spare time.
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