itsme
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Post by itsme on Aug 4, 2023 21:34:42 GMT -5
Personally, I'm not so convinced that Paul is in these photos. I think this may actually be Bill (before surgery) standing in before Paul resigned/died/was fired/whatever you think is true. I say this because the dude has a pretty long looking face, thin lips, wide mouth, among a couple other traits that are distinctive to Bill as opposed to Paul.
 
However, I only think that Bill was seen getting off the plane and boarding the bus with the rest of the Beatles (I think that's where Paul may have been while Bill was walking down the stairs) before going off to enjoy the rest of his day while away from the Beatles for obvious reasons (also presumably under disguise to avoid being mobbed by an army of teenage girls). These photos are from later that day and show who seems to be James Paul McCartney, clearly looking very different compared to the man in the airport photos:
 
Interestingly, there appears to be 2 Pauls on the stage that night and neither of them are Bill
JPM w/John  Unidentified Faul(?)
The eyebrows seem to magically appear bushier (which notoriously varied through Paul's early career) and the facial hair appears much more visible (possibly due to camera angle/quality). Not to mention the unknown Faul clearly wearing a terribly applied wig which looks very different to JPM's hair. The switch was presumably made when the Beatles crew determined it could be done in secrecy underneath the stage set so nobody could see what happened. As to why it happened? I'm pretty sure there had been some discussion regarding JPM possibly suffering from IBS, so Paul may have run off the stage, knowing he was going to have an "episode" and called for backup. I really can't find video evidence to back this claim up, simply because there (conveniently) just wasn't any professional video seemingly ever filmed. It's all just my speculations for now.
On a semi-related note, I feel that I have possibly identified some earlier photos in which a double (not Bill) is featured in, but that's an issue for another thread.
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Post by joseph on Aug 5, 2023 8:56:51 GMT -5
Why did you call the thread "Candlestick Paul(s)" then? You say one of them is called "Faul" what's the other one called if it's not Paul? He might be called Paul as well, if so identify your Pauls. If none of those are Paul, where's the Paul you're talking about to compare? When and where was he last seen? If there are two different men in the images, what happened at Candlestick Park to make you believe that? What reasons have you got to believe the things you are saying? Because I can't see any.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 5, 2023 23:32:37 GMT -5
Personally, I'm not so convinced that Paul is in these photos. I think this may actually be Bill (before surgery) standing in before Paul resigned/died/was fired/whatever you think is true. I say this because the dude has a pretty long looking face, thin lips, wide mouth, among a couple other traits that are distinctive to Bill as opposed to Paul.
However, I only think that Bill was seen getting off the plane and boarding the bus with the rest of the Beatles (I think that's where Paul may have been while Bill was walking down the stairs) before going off to enjoy the rest of his day while away from the Beatles for obvious reasons (also presumably under disguise to avoid being mobbed by an army of teenage girls). These photos are from later that day and show who seems to be James Paul McCartney, clearly looking very different compared to the man in the airport photos:
Interestingly, there appears to be 2 Pauls on the stage that night and neither of them are Bill
JPM w/JohnUnidentified Faul(?)
The eyebrows seem to magically appear bushier (which notoriously varied through Paul's early career) and the facial hair appears much more visible (possibly due to camera angle/quality). Not to mention the unknown Faul clearly wearing a terribly applied wig which looks very different to JPM's hair. The switch was presumably made when the Beatles crew determined it could be done in secrecy underneath the stage set so nobody could see what happened. As to why it happened? I'm pretty sure there had been some discussion regarding JPM possibly suffering from IBS, so Paul may have run off the stage, knowing he was going to have an "episode" and called for backup. I really can't find video evidence to back this claim up, simply because there (conveniently) just wasn't any professional video seemingly ever filmed. It's all just my speculations for now.
On a semi-related note, I feel that I have possibly identified some earlier photos in which a double (not Bill) is featured in, but that's an issue for another thread.
The backstage photos are very interesting. The "Paul" who always looked really doofy with his mouth hanging open was one of the ones backstage.
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stone10
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Post by stone10 on Aug 14, 2023 8:29:15 GMT -5
rubbish, all of those are paul
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itsme
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Post by itsme on Aug 19, 2023 22:32:26 GMT -5
rubbish, all of those are paul Maybe the "unidentified Faul" is, but I strongly believe that Plane Paul, who I believe is Bill but he might not be, is NOT real Paul |
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Post by itsme on Aug 19, 2023 22:36:23 GMT -5
Why did you call the thread "Candlestick Paul(s)" then? You say one of them is called "Faul" what's the other one called if it's not Paul? He might be called Paul as well, if so identify your Pauls. If none of those are Paul, where's the Paul you're talking about to compare? When and where was he last seen? If there are two different men in the images, what happened at Candlestick Park to make you believe that? What reasons have you got to believe the things you are saying? Because I can't see any. I used the title I did because these are all just speculations based off of my observations. They may all be Paul, they may all be doubles. Also I assumed that everyone here had a general image of what Paul and Faul looked like and what sets them apart. |
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Post by joseph on Aug 20, 2023 1:05:33 GMT -5
Why did you call the thread "Candlestick Paul(s)" then? You say one of them is called "Faul" what's the other one called if it's not Paul? He might be called Paul as well, if so identify your Pauls. If none of those are Paul, where's the Paul you're talking about to compare? When and where was he last seen? If there are two different men in the images, what happened at Candlestick Park to make you believe that? What reasons have you got to believe the things you are saying? Because I can't see any. I used the title I did because these are all just speculations based off of my observations. They may all be Paul, they may all be doubles. Also I assumed that everyone here had a general image of what Paul and Faul looked like and what sets them apart. I say to all people who get defensive with me: I don't know you. I don't know what you know and I don't know what you believe. All I know is what you say in your posts and you've already signalled that you're a member of what I call "Team Billy" who are not going to go one step further than the narrative they've been adhering to since it was crafted in 1969. Here's something I don't see members of Team Billy showing or even saying. This is Paul and Faul. Tweet loading 👇 |
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 20, 2023 17:55:55 GMT -5
Same dude….
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Post by joseph on Aug 20, 2023 20:01:09 GMT -5
My iconography is easy to dismiss because I make it as difficult for the observer as possible by capturing a victim and their lookalike in the most similar position possible. I'd love to know why this culture has the hots for Paul and made him it's subject, but that would require a confession I know I'm not going to get. These icons are a bit more difficult to dismiss. I sat someone down once and made them watch John sing You Can't Do That at Wembley in 1964 and put on The Wembley performance from 1965. She watched the first song no problem, but as soon as Fohn walked up to the mic and opened his mouth she went, "Right, turn it off." I said, "No, you've got to watch this." She said, "Turn it off NOW!" 😆 It's no surprise that there is no quality footage of The Beatles performing live between the Melbourne gig in June 1964 and the Wembley gig in April 1965, but I've managed to track down a very early recording of The Fetals in Sweden on July 28th 1964. Faul & Fohn's voices are audibly cracked in the first two songs June 1964 July 1964 |
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 21, 2023 2:36:03 GMT -5
Been on these forums since 2003…have seen theories like this countless times…they never end up holding any water…if you buy what you are posting ….have fun then…
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Post by joseph on Aug 21, 2023 7:56:38 GMT -5
Been on these forums since 2003…have seen theories like this countless times…they never end up holding any water…if you buy what you are posting ….have fun then… They're not theories. They're arguments backed up by material evidence that give me reason to believe that someone has been replaced with an imposter. If you were to bring some other material that shows me I'm wrong I would change it, but you don't so what does that mean? It means I can't reason with you, doesn't it. |
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 21, 2023 20:40:32 GMT -5
Theory/argument, however you prefer to term it, you posted pictures of the same guy. If you see it differently, that’s fine. I posted my two cents on what I observed, no need for any further reasoning. Good luck to you!
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Post by bandi on Aug 21, 2023 20:57:33 GMT -5
Joseph,
A great Sufi teaching master once told his students:
"The battle is twofold.
One, it's between those who know and those who do not know.
And, two, it's between those who know and those who need to know."
Idries Shah
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Post by joseph on Aug 23, 2023 4:25:24 GMT -5
Joseph, A great Sufi teaching master once told his students: "The battle is twofold. One, it's between those who know and those who do not know. And, two, it's between those who know and those who need to know." Idries Shah Did you want me to find out he'd been replaced with an imposter? It sounds like he only wrote the first two books. I was also steered towards looking at a friend of his called Doris Lessing who looks like she only had two books published before being replaced. What's strange about that is those first two books are about magic, then it's the imposter who goes on to be a promoter of Sufi mysticism. The day before that I wanted to watch something that took my mind off imposter replacements. I put 'best juggling acts all time' in the youtube search engine. I thought there can't be any here. I was going through the videos and ìt was very entertaining - Kris Kremo in particular. Then as I scrolled down there was a video "legendary magician's first time on Johnny Carson 1981" so I watched it. He was one of those magicians who pull doves out of nowhere and did fantastic things with cards and flames and candlesticks and stuff - a traditional magician who didn't speak and had weird fingers. His name was Lance Burton so I put his name in the search engine to see if there were any more. I watched a couple and then more recent ones where he looked different, but in these he was talking a lot. I scrolled it on to the trick and when I let it play he said, "I used to be Lance Burton." I was like, "Oh no. Please!" I put another video on and scrolled to the trick and this time he said, "...there was another magician before me but he was telling people the tricks so we had to kill him." The next one was where he made a stealth bomber disappear in the 90s I think and I was like, "This ain't making candlesticks disappear, this is publicity stunts for the US Air Force," so I googled him and he was one of the biggest acts in Vegas at one point. He did a stint somewhere that made $100 million, and that's where I stopped investigating him. I was thinking about Lance as I was reading Idries Shah's Wikipedia entry. Perhaps they replaced him because his first two books contain a lot of esoteric knowledge and whoever's doing this don't want him to give anymore secrets away. What makes me suspect he was replaced is how dismissive he (the imposter) is of those first two volumes. I might actually seek out those first two books "Oriental Magic" and "The Secret Lore of Magic," because from what I gather it sounds like there are things relevant to why I'm stopping myself doing anything about imposter replacements. Confessing that I've been wrong about Jimi Hendrix etc all my life counts as nothing in my opinion. |
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