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Post by skyward on Jul 10, 2007 16:05:33 GMT -5
haha, i used the Love version, 5.1 surround, and deleted all tracks exept the Voice, so you can hear it GOOD, and then reversed it and listened to it.. and there it was: He's the young maximus, Him During the Larry King interview on CNN, regarding the LOVE album and the Cirque de Soliel in Las Vegas, they (P/Faul and Ringo) did talk about how their music has really been enhanced over time. Ringo brought up the 5.1 channel surround experience and he laughed that in some years it will be 9.1 or something like that. George Martin orchestrated this 'remastered mosaic album' and I assume there might be hidden treasures on there. Cirque de Soliel LOVE "Using the master tapes at Abbey Road studios, Sir George Martin and Giles Martin have created a unique soundscape of The Beatles music for LOVE. With panoramic sound and visuals, the audience will experience The Beatles as never before. Only at The Mirage, Las Vegas."
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Post by skyward on Jul 10, 2007 15:02:01 GMT -5
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Post by skyward on Jul 10, 2007 13:27:45 GMT -5
Do you need an RYT to hear it? Where is it from?
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Post by skyward on Jul 10, 2007 9:52:59 GMT -5
This "CODE" pictorial also resembles the outline of a golden beetle, and the "ODE" can also be read, as it is ornately scripted, as "POE." Edgar Allen Poe wrote a short story about a gold beetle cipher "The Gold Bug." I wonder if "Sexy Sadie" is about Yoko Ono. Especially given her 'Satan look at me" reverse messages on the same album, and her movie "Satan's Bed." The Tsadie forms a Y shape as in the Roman alphabet letter Y that is her first initial. The Tsadie "Y" goes with "ONO' on the side of the yellow car in that R.A. clip. If you watch the clip with the yellow car, you can see the stencilled CODE on the door. It doesn't appear to be 'ONO'. Watch between 40-45 seconds.
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Post by skyward on Jul 9, 2007 15:19:24 GMT -5
The "Maximus" line is clearly being spoken forwards....in fact, in that episode I think the forwards audio makes more sense than the backwards audio. All I know is he was clearly singing to the (backwards) tune of Strawberry Fields Forever. I have no idea where "He is the young Maxiumus, him" is from, or "He was charming (chummy) and thirsty" is from, or what it means. And it's been driving me crazy. Ah, it didn't occur to me that Iamaphoney (or associates) might be adding his/her/their own vocal tracks to the Rotten Apple series. Incidentally, right around the 'He was charming and thirsty' part, 40-45 seconds, you can see that the LOVE mirror image resulting in CODE is stencilled onto the yellow car, it isn't ONO as some have speculated. The Beatles mirror image has the symbol for Gemini ¤ where the 'a' was. In the CODE mirror image, there is a 'horned figure' in the O, and I think that is where the latest RA clip (#40) ends... yup, the CODE image is turned 90 degrees clockwise and the clip ends with the horned image (looks like a Texas Longhorn).
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Post by skyward on Jul 8, 2007 22:39:00 GMT -5
What do anagrams have to do with this? All I'm saying is is that if you have to imagine that certain words are complete, or that they really sound a certain way when they don't, then that's just falling into the whole "cranberry sauce" vs. "I buried Paul" argument (which, by the way, as someone who has heard nearly every take of the song, INCLUDING the original vinyl mono version......I can assure you it's "cranberry sauce".) If someone actively codes a hidden word into a lyric using anagrams, there is a deal of ambiguity there as far as the conversion back to the intended words. Ambiguity in the coding/decoding is how anagrams are similar to audio reversals. It isn't just a straight-forward case of reversing letters and re-reversing letters. In the Rotten Apple series, there is great ambiguity as far as the reversal interpretations go. Some seem to be stretches, while some seem accurate. What do you think about the 'Turn me on dead man' audio? "We'll be reverse" hardly sounds like that is what is being said, but it is a reasonable interpretation. I don't know how to differentiate between the 'reasonable' interpretations and the 'grasping at straws' interpretations. I'm wondering if there aren't other clues that aid in that process. In RA #39, at 56 seconds, I unmistakably hear "He is the young Maximus him (hymn)." What is that from?
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Post by skyward on Jul 8, 2007 22:03:33 GMT -5
Really IsStillAlive On Ten Thwee Faw Fie Sis Sevut....All Goo Chilreally Is Still AlafUnmistakable? Not even the count to seven is unmistakable! If you believe all this, then you must believe that all backmasking is intentional, not matter how slurred it is. I could have gone even further and specifically slowed the end of "children" to prove to you that it's not remotely indistinct and in fact merges into the word "really". But if you want to get into all this stuff about perception and whether iamaphoney wanted people to think that way, then fine. He must be a real genius to cook up a scheme like that. I should have written, relatively unmistakable. When I played it in reverse, that is what I heard. It sounds like a robotic-voice is speaking the phrase. I didn't have to scratch my head and wonder if there were any phrases to pick out as you might do in some other reverse audio tracks. It wasn't as clear as if someone were to speak the phrase forwards. I have no idea what to make of the reverse audio. There was a YouTube video on one of the early pages that has songs with reverse messages, like the Weird Al song. Those are unmistakable, you know when you hear the backward part that it must say something forwards. The Beatles' examples aren't as clear cut in comparison, there are levels of ambiguity. Is there some cue to let the listener know that the audio might reveal something in reverse? The repetition of 'Number 9' might make one wonder. Strange audio or peculiar lyrics might make one check. You are advocating a 'hardline' take on the reverse lyrics, right? That is, there is only one way to decode any hidden phrase? I would disagree with that assertion. Isn't that similar to saying that a word can only be read forward or backward? Eno One, and that Neo or Eon is irrelevant, although they're anagrams. I have no idea whether or not the Beatles were actively inserting hidden reverse messages in their music.
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Post by skyward on Jul 8, 2007 20:40:42 GMT -5
When you hear a sound, are you able to process the correct audio 'subconscioulsy' or is it intended to be listened to at that particular speed? In other words, if I'm hearing 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 all good children he is still alive, isn't that what the producer of the sound intends to be heard? Well, using that logic, then wouldn't it mean every time someone mishears a lyric that they were only hearing what the producer of the sound intended? That "Louie, Louie" was really a dirty song? That John Lennon sang "fag jew""? That Mick Jagger sang "I'll never leave your pizza burning"? That Elton John sang "She's got electric boobs/her mom has two"? I wish I could bring myself to believe that people were so clever that they'd think "I'll write this song with words that vaguely resemble other words so that somebody somewhere might get the joke!". I haven't thought about the relation or similarity between misunderstood lyrics and reverse phrases. It is a good point to ponder... John Lennon used anagrams, as an alias, right? An anagram is a garbled word. Homophones/homonyms/homographs can be veiled double-speak. We don't know the means by which they may have converted a normal phrase to a hidden phrase. We don't have their conversion methods. I don't think it was as simple as saying something forward and then splicing in the reverse on a track, e.g., Number 9 in reverse-- Turn me on dead man. 'Turn me on dead man' does not quite sound like an exactly spoken phrase while 'Number 9' does. When I hear some examples of reverse audio, the conclusions can be wildly ambiguous. Sometimes it is a case of I hear this and you hear that and they hear something else... Other times, the phrase is unmistakable, like 'Turn me on dead man', or '1-2-3-4-5-6-7 all good children he is still alive'.
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Post by skyward on Jul 8, 2007 18:24:44 GMT -5
I've changed my mind, I think it is "Because" but it has been heavily distorted. How? How does one distort sky into "skah"? Or "blue" into "oooo"? www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/uploads/Iamaphoney_Because..mp3This has all the characteristics of reversed speech. If it sounds like he's saying real words when you play it forwards, it's because he is. You can slow it down, stretch it---whatever, and it won't come down to a matter of "oh, this is what I hear", it'll come down to a matter of what it really does say. I know I must sound arrogant, but it really bothers me that so many people are satisfied with just accepting their own personal take on what's being said when they're not really slowing the audio down and listening for concrete evidence. It's easy to jump to conclusions, but before you believe in any hidden message---be it forwards or backwards---you should ask yourself: does it sound natural, or strained? If strained, then why? Can you make out each and every syllable, or is there any garble? . Could audio be analagous to the written word where you don't necessarily have to perceive things in the most literal sense? There is the assumption that there is a play on words, drawn out or sped up homophones, anagrams and/or riddles going in within the lyrics of Beatles' songs. When you hear a sound, are you able to process the correct audio 'subconscioulsy' or is it intended to be listened to at that particular speed? In other words, if I'm hearing 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 all good children he is still alive, isn't that what the producer of the sound intends to be heard? I think that is where you are splitting away, in that you don't buy it because it isn't clearly produced at some normal speed, but cryptology is anything but normal. edit to add- Yeah, what JoJo said.
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Post by skyward on Jul 8, 2007 14:47:02 GMT -5
These can't be recordings from the LOVE album simply for the fact that the LOVE album only borrows from the final takes of Beatles songs. For instance, a piece of Helter Skelter is used in "Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite!". The piece used is not taken from take 4, it is taken from take 18, the final take of the song and the one used on the album. This recording of Because is clearly not the original used on the Album...some of the words are indistinct, suggesting that it is an all new recording of Because that was created singing it backwards. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_%28The_Beatles_album%29"While My Guitar Gently Weeps" – A BBC article reported that George Martin chose to use an early version of the recording for the album and wrote a new orchestral backing for the track. This was also stated in the fifth chapter of The Beatles 'LOVE' Podcast. Basically you'd be concluding that the entire Rotten Apple series of YouTube videos is a well orchestrated sham? I have no idea what to make of the recent audio bits, I really don't know where they're from or how they were originated. Just because I don't know where they're from (the audio bits), I'm not ready to write it all off... I'm still seeing a lot of coincidental evidence there. And it was remastered to use 5.1 audio channels. Doesn't that open up a possibility that some tracks might be hidden in the back channels? The LOVE album contains a veritable mosaic of Beatle audio, from all sorts of sources.
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Post by skyward on Jul 8, 2007 10:19:33 GMT -5
WTF? That wasn't the original "Because"? Had me fooled. So, the thought is that Iamaphoney and/or associates are injecting his/her own voice into the audio clips? Couldn't these audio clips be from the LOVE album? Love in Las Vegas. www.therockradio.com/2006/07/beatles-producers-says-love-soundtrack.html"Legendary Beatles producer George Martin promises a prize to fans who can crack a "code" found in the upcoming soundtrack to The Beatles LOVE, which is now playing at the Mirage Hotel in Las Vegas. Martin and his son Giles used various snippets of Beatles tunes for the mosaic-like soundtrack to the show created in conjunction with Cirque du Soleil. Martin revealed to Britain's The Express On Sunday that he and Giles incorporated a total of 130 Beatles songs within their 90-minute soundtrack." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_%28The_Beatles_album%29 "In discussing the project, Giles Martin noted that elements were utilized from recordings in The Beatles catalogue, "the original four tracks, eight tracks and two tracks and used this palette of sounds and music to create a soundbed."[1] George Martin also promised a prize to those who could crack a "code" found in the album."
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Post by skyward on Jul 8, 2007 9:22:14 GMT -5
Hmmmm. Do I see the Pepperpots at 00:57 and 00:58? Yes, I do. "Music has a salty"? at 00:38 - 00:51 A story? "Something is real" at 1:19 (LOVE, I presume.) Can anyone hear the totallity of what's being said? At the end: "I'm sorry; I think it was soggy" I caught the 'soggy' part at the end. There are some 'luci's in there. Are these audio clips from the remastered LOVE album? In the interview with Larry King, Ringo said that it is now 5.1 surround and they made a point of saying how their music has evolved from mono to 5.1. Maybe there are tracks found on, say, the back 2 speakers? Also, it sounds like the audio has been slowed down some. Iamaphoney did show some clips with drawn out audio. Maybe you need to change the speed of the audio to hear some of these clips?
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Post by skyward on Jul 6, 2007 12:14:46 GMT -5
You meant Aries. Actually Ares is the name of Mars (the god) in ancient Greek. A coincidence? This is the symbol for Aries: These two Hebrew letters are called Tsadie: To me, the Aries symbol is suggestive of a sleek, sexy version of Tsadie. Does Sexy Sadie = Aries? (Yes I know Sadie is supposed to be the Maharishi, but this is Lennon we are dealing with.) -j Watch TRA #39 and between 6-10 seconds there is a 'Tsadie' on the horizon...
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Post by skyward on Jul 6, 2007 11:55:37 GMT -5
In 'Hello, Goodbye' toward the end, do they sing 'Seira' in the gibberish part?
Has anyone else taken the audio of TRA #37 and listened to the reverse? I wonder if anyone else hears the "1-2-3-4-5-6-7 all good children he is still alive" That is what I'm hearing, unmistakably, and that is what someone on YouTube heard as there are messages there that claim that Iamaphoney thinks 'he's still alive'. That might mean he dropped out of the picture and there can still be a Faul.
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Post by skyward on Jul 5, 2007 22:05:24 GMT -5
www.pantheon.org/articles/g/golden_fleece.htmlGolden Fleece by James Hunter The Golden Fleece was the treasure sought by Jason and the Argonauts. It originated in the following fashion. Phrixus and Helle were the children of Athamus and the goddess Nephele. When Athamas remarried, the children's stepmother, Ino, became jealous of them and plotted to get rid of them. She arranged to have seed-corn roasted so that it would not sprout. When the crop failed, messengers were sent to consult the oracle at Delphi, and Ino persuaded the messengers to say that that the oracle required the sacrifice of Phrixus to restore fertility to the fields. Before Phrixus could be sacrificed, however, Nephele sent a golden ram which carried both children off through the air. Helle fell into the Hellespont (which was named after her), but Phrixus arrived safely at Colchis, where he married the daughter of King Aeetes. Phrixus sacrificed the ram to Zeus, and gave its pelt (the Golden Fleece) to Aeetes. Aeetes placed the fleece in an oak tree, where it remained until Jason arrived to claim it." uh....yeah.... The oak tree being situated in a grove of Ares. Perhaps there's really nothing to it... Here's the Thrillington cover: or- www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLfZaSRjeVU It appears to have Aries and Mars imagery and there is an astrological connection there. www.theoi.com/Ther/KriosKhrysomallos.html--"She provides a Ram shimmering with gold for their escape: it carries the two across the wide seas. They say the girl’s left hand clutched the horn weakly, when she named the water after herself. Her brother almost died with her, as he tried to stop her falling and offered his outstretched hands. He wept that he lost his partner in twin peril, unaware she had joined the blue god [Poseidon]. On reaching land, the ram becomes a star, but its wool of gold reaches the houses of Colchis." - Ovid, Fasti 3.853 Again, I don't know if there is anything significant to be found in the golden fleece mythology, but there are a variety of explanations of the myth at the above linked site.
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Post by skyward on Jul 5, 2007 20:38:25 GMT -5
The cover of the Thrillington CD is a musician with a Ram head (Ares) with Mars in the background. You meant Aries. Actually Ares is the name of Mars (the god) in ancient Greek. A coincidence? I did a quick search on any links, and in horoscope thought (astrology), Mars(Ares) is the ruling planet of Aries. Then there is the whole sacrifice a Ram, the Golden Fleece in the Temple (Sacred Grove) of Ares; Jason and the Argonauts. The Golden Fleece representing enlightenment and intellect. In the myth, two siblings rode through the air on the fleece and one fell off and drowned.
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Post by skyward on Jul 5, 2007 17:05:25 GMT -5
That's an interesting point Jude, though I thought I heard something like "now we say our grace to Paul" Something along those lines, I find it a little creepy to be honest. I heard "now we say our grace to Paul", too. On the youtube comment page, ghostysshow said he heard iamaphoney making a joke about Paul not being dead at all. But I really wasn't make an "interesting point" of it, iamaphoney really is singing (through a vocoder, I guess) "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7", etc.. Just download the second Mp3 I linked to, and you'll hear it too. What some people are actually trying to make sense of forwards is meaningless; did iamaphoney know that it sounded like "say our grace to Paul"? Probably. But the phrase is reversed in the original song, it sounds like Paul is saying "Let me go, Lord Lucifer". Neither are valid points, IMO, just reverse speech nonsense that sounds like something genuine. Hi, I'm new and I'm not sure what to make of this whole topic, but it is intriguing. In Rotten Apple #37 where there is the 'Now they say their grace to Paul' repeating lines, when you play it in reverse, I hear 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 all good children he is still alive. I think that is why the person on YouTube responded with that claim. It does sound like 'he is still alive' or 'Paul is still alive', I don't hear 'go to heaven'. In the latest, King of Cosmania clip. The guy shouting 'King of Cosmania' at the end, in reverse sounds like- 'I see somebody there'.? Where does the audio for the 'he is the young Maximus..' come from? It sounds like SFF. The ia in Cosmania seems to be a bluish-purple color, don't know if it's an artifact. Faul has a blackbird on his shirt? I think some of the videos can be dismissed, like the Chris Farley interview on SNL, or questioned, but some really seem to be on the mark. edit to add-- The cover of the Thrillington CD is a musician with a Ram head (Aries) with Mars (Ares) in the background. When the broken CD in the RottenApple 39 video comes together, the center cirlce resembles an orb, a star/sun? There are similar orbs/circles in the LOVE commercial. Then there is a picture of a bishop/cleric/priest with a similar hole/circle in the middle of their chest. Then there are all the text squares, are they biblical passages, then there are mysterious shapes with lines... It almost looks like the last two and a half letters in Cosmania are blue/purple, spelling out air in reverse. Air-ease Iamaphoney has progressively gotten better at producing these and it sure seems like he/she is purposefully dropping clues in there.
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Post by skyward on Nov 3, 2007 23:12:25 GMT -5
Who is the guy with the beard in the side-by-side photos? JPM? It looks like a John Lennon look-alike there at the end with Heather Mills. How about John Hammel? Heather Mills stressed the betrayal angle in that it wasn't about infidelity, what could she mean?
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Post by skyward on Apr 11, 2008 22:53:03 GMT -5
Greetings therufian, we're accustomed to discussing the Rotten Apple in this thread: Roten Apple thread
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Post by skyward on Apr 5, 2008 17:13:27 GMT -5
hah. maybe more penis' will surface. hmmm. perhaps the 'heart' shape of rubber soul is actually supposed to represent the mans 'fun sac'. wow. sorry everyone. Well, I think that does coincide with Crowley, check out some of the drawings they uncovered in Thelema. And the logo on the inside cover of the Book of the Law supposedly represents a woman's... As might the pepper drum in that mirror image. Here is a Youtube clip (at the bottom) of a wall drawing from the Abbey in Thelema. Notice the larger C, which is how you can see Code in LY HE mirrored. Youtube page drawings from the Abbey in Thelema There may be more clips that show more drawings. I haven't checked.
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Post by skyward on Apr 5, 2008 15:25:03 GMT -5
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Post by skyward on Apr 5, 2008 14:54:35 GMT -5
Not "probably," 65if. You may be proven wrong... and not by me. Lies add up. Besides, the hypocrite's fingerprints are not needed to find his identity. There are easier alternatives. Do you know who he is, milesdeo, or are you on the verge of finding out? If his identity isn't important to you as being central to the solution of the mysteries being discussed, is it important to you for other reasons? milesdeo is insinuating that IAAP Inc. is being funded by Mills, he claims he "found out", at IAAP's YouTube page.
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Post by skyward on Apr 2, 2008 23:15:18 GMT -5
...but I don't quite place this either. That looks like the symbol for Aries.
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Post by skyward on Mar 6, 2008 15:05:29 GMT -5
1. Has anything happened subsequent to the Love/Code discovery or has Apple still refused to acknowledge the existence of this find, and is the love code more than the mirrored CODE? Okay, question #1 is actually three questions. If he lets you get away with that, then please try to put 64 questions in each question. But I have to tell you, this is my nightmare-------- Mike: Question 1, Has anything happened subsequent to the Love/Code discovery...
IAAP: No
Mike: ...has Apple still refused to acknowledge the existence of this find...
IAAP: Yes
Mike: ...and is the love code more than the mirrored CODE?
IAAP: Yes
Mike: Now, question #2
IAAP: No, the next question is #4. You have already asked me three questions and I have answered them. You have six more.So, Mike, please try to stay away from yes/no questions. That is what I was addressing with the 'pedantic djinni' type interview. Another topic would be Yoko Ono, the Imagine Peace Tower and the Dennis Kucinich appearance in the videos. Is the tower located in a specific location for a specific purpose? Another, what about the fires that have occurred on the dates that were provided, how are they related, if at all?
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Post by skyward on Mar 6, 2008 14:32:29 GMT -5
I suppose there might be time constraints, so this is a way to focus the material on pertinent topics that matter to the viewing audience. It gives the "interview" structure, it's just that it would help to know if we're asking questions to a pedantic djinni or not. The suitcase has become prominent in the recent RA videos, can you explain the significance of the suitcase and its contents in regard to the PID/PWR areas of discussion. Is it really Mal Evans' suitcase, how do you know it is legit, how did you get it, what was in it, elaborate on any juicy info? Aleister Crowley has been prominently featured, his magick and the possibility that SirPaul is the Son of the Magickian. It has been presented, by Denny Laine, that SirPaul has dabbled with Crowley while they were in the Wings... What evidence have you uncovered that there might be more to the SirPaul-Crowley connection? The CODE on the Love album was only reported on one website, the radio something or other site, edit- Here it is the rock radio. Why only one, as it makes it seem like it was just a spoof? Is there more to the CODE than the mirror image that is present on the many CODE signs you have placed in various locations? Did Apple ever respond to your discovery? Charles Manson has also been featured in the RA series, as well as the aIIofthemwitches video series. Have you uncovered any information, other than that which has already been reported, that links Manson to the Beatles? Are you affiliated with other YouTubers' series of videos, like aIIofthemwitches and YouKnowMyName231? YouKnowMyName231 further explores the magickal Tarot and secret societies and their relation to McCartney and the Beatles. This might link, as well, to the Kabbalah and astronomy/astrology. Can you elucidate more clearly further links that may not have been reported or displayed on the various discussion forums?
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