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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 14, 2011 12:12:17 GMT -5
i was reading rolling stone last night at work and i saw there is a new john lennon book. I think the term pot boiler is an adequate description of the thing - its 700+ pages. Has anyone purchased it yet?
Also, there was an article on florence and the machine that i thought was a little devilish on rolling stone's part. I dont really know anything about the group except they have that song "dog days are over" (sirius...). Anyway, it says about florence: "the stevie nicks of the twilight generation". What creativity on their part...
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 12, 2011 8:57:40 GMT -5
Why do you do that, seasaltcaramel? i didnt mean to do it. I was basically wondering if the cross photograph could be phony, that in the original there is no cross. That is really the only thing connecting the two. There is the october 1966 date that could connect with the church of satan. Seems a bit far fetched. What is the source of that photograph? Sorry that keeps happening. I try to prevent it because its not like i have a rough draft. So everytime that happens imagine how i deal with it.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 12, 2011 6:20:50 GMT -5
Absolutely! I think that's part of what iamaphoney is getting at. [url=http://invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Clues
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 12, 2011 1:14:30 GMT -5
It's fine, I doubt anyone cares. If there's a problem they could always do what is usually done.. Disable the user/password combo. iamaphoney sent me this message a while back when i posted links to some of the vimeo videos with their passwords: "hey, you jerk, whats the big idea." (i dont think its that jerky at all, actually) i still have access, though there is the possibility i cant see the updates. Im not sure. To be honest, i was suprised that iamaeye and letter b didnt have access themselves. For some reason i thought... Anyway, there was the promise of being able to download the videos but i wasnt able to figure it out. Then again, my computers are pretty old. If anyone wants to try, there are definitely some interesting videos - a lot of old full length paul is dead videos that have been put out over the years, including that wonderful "last testament of george harrison"... Also, this doesnt relate to the issue at hand at all, but it is interesting: i have been studying salvador dali for a few years now, and ive learned pieces of his symbolic language (the shadows were my first discovery). He has one painting that he references more than any other - the angelus by millet, i believe. Its a picture of a son and his mother praying in a field at sunrise/sunset. Its an old painting from the 19th century and dali studied it closely and applied all sorts of meaning to it. Yesterday i was looking at it and i realized its the osiris myth. Im not going to tell you why i came to this conclusion, but i do believe this idea passed through dali's mind as well. The more i think about the paul is dead hoax the more i think it was/is a surreal game. I know dali had connections to musicians - aphrodite's child and their album 666 was made around the time they started meeting with dali (an interview about this exists somewhere). I have a healthy skepticism about all this, but you cant deny that theres something there. In his book "magick in theory and practice" crowley says something i think a lot of people tend to overlook. Its on the first page, if im not mistaken, and he is talking about the contents of the book. He says, basically: "everything in this book describes something that takes place in a person's mind." in other words, a prince of the air in a purple suit, bearing a flaming sword, riding on a griffin, with the voice of a child is something symbolic. You wont actually see this, unless you can imagine it. Magick is limited only by a person's imagination. i have given up any mystical explanations for why we are here (on this planet). This is directly inspired by atheism, although i wouldnt say im an atheist myself. It has more to do with breaking out of belief systems. You cant be decieved by a conspiracy theorist claiming john lennon was demon possessed if you dont believe in demon possession. On the other hand, if you deny the information totally you cut yourself off. So my theory is, believe it for a week, a month, a year - entertain the notion, and like miles davis said "take what you like, leave what you dont." its great advice, i havent been bored in years. And that brings up an important point about entertainment. This is going to sound silly, but hear me out: its like going to a supermarket when youre hungry. I have hundreds of little thoughts (like the dali/osiris thought i mention earlier) and this forum has been a place to share them. But i realize i have to edit them. Its fascinating how in arabic 6 looks like 7. Or, how in the older languages letters and numbers share the same characters. With this topic - paul is dead/paul was replaced - you can involve practically anything. Now why is that? It probably has something to do with the fact we are investigating something related to the beatles who, as the huffington post joked about, get better press than god. Theres a lot of muckracking (spelling?) too. I dont really care about "juicy" beatles secrets. I dont think anyone else here does either.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 11, 2011 11:37:34 GMT -5
i was told recently about a video series, slenderman, where the same symbol is used repeadtedly. I remember a few months ago a similar video series was mentioned involving "the order". These iamaphoney videos seem to have a similar theme. The people involved in building the myth of a struggle thats currently taking place in the iamaphoney "group" seem to be obscuring the issue. I just imagined standing on the mosaic in new york. You do that and imagine the "password". What happens? This gets away from the tabloid universe of the issue and focuses on the frontiers of experience. The whole reason we are all interested enough in the story is because of songs like "strawberry fields forever" which, at the time of it's release, was the new frontier. Bringing high art to the masses. At the very least, this is a surrealist game. And it is a fun game. We have to remember that this is a game involving real people. Paul mccartney isnt god. Unless you want to break it down into all possible religious perspectives, we can assume that ringo starr is not god. We are dealing with people. I think if you say the 1968 apple interview with john and paul clearly shows the double wearing a rubber mask you have gone too far. Then there is the realm of personal attacks. If a person takes heroin, or is a homosexual, this doesnt mean they are satanists. Just because a person was interested in the occult, or was intitiated into a "coven", doesnt mean they are in league with the devil. They are just playing the game. At this point it's clear this is a game. Or, it has turned into a game. The issue now is there are two games. The real game, and the phoney game.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 11, 2011 11:31:21 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 11, 2011 8:17:02 GMT -5
Would unclejoe or Letter B or iameye or seasaltcaramel kindly tell us exactly what this topic is about please ? Some of us are not as sharp as others so, please explain what the username and password is for (seasaltcaramel), as well as the $6.66 price tag. Thank you. And, iameye---I love your posts. Yours too Letter B. Lastly, I wonder why the Miss Him Miss Him forum was 86'd. I read the terms of use for their site and it's written in basic lawyer craft, nice and vague and unintelligable. its the iamaphoney website thewingedbeatle.com i was originally under the impression that "the private cloud" was like a super-forum, where you could download all the raw footage shown in the rotten apple series. Instead, its this complicated situation where there are links to videos with passwords on vimeo. It says the rotten apple series was completed in 06-07 before the youtube videos appeared, or just as the videos appeared. I had just got a job and a debit card when i found out about the site. So, like an infomerical shopper, i decided i needed to give this person $6.66 to gain access to the private cloud. I sent iamaphoney a message and my sob story about an uncle that was thumbprinted in death valley. "Iamaphoney" replied: "iamaphoney doesnt want your money, he wants your soul." oh brother... Then i was given the username and password, for free. It was supposed to update every other thursday, it did for about 2 months and then that was it. The videos are interesting, particularly the videos at the bottom of the page. The one that interested me was a video of a video game developer talking about the concept of constellation. Also, i hope this sort of thing (posting usernames and passwords - promoting unauthorized access) doesnt lead to a ban. I thought about this yesterday and if that is the case i will happily delete the post. What timing...
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 10, 2011 11:46:40 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 10, 2011 8:09:09 GMT -5
iameye lol, just for you, i'm going to get the password and share it with you so you can see all the interesting stuff that's been going on behind closed doors ;D you too letter b username: jay password: 131415 hasnt updated in 6 months.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 9, 2011 1:46:08 GMT -5
Also, iameye, i like the paul-as-chained-unicorn image. I was thinking about this, i probably mentioned it before, but i'll expand on it now. You had, in the mid-late 60s, the
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 8, 2011 0:12:17 GMT -5
2 possible message about freedom, at the very least the universe is talking to us Imagine where? i was thinking the album: "i dont believe in ..." the final one - "i dont believe in beatles" - brings up something interesting. Not "the beatles were phony", necessarily, but the way it all culminates in that line and "the dream is over." "i was the dreamweaver..." its the captain trips image of directing the thoughts of a whole flock of kids. All of john lennon's children, and there's a whole flock of them. The beatles meant a lot, and still mean a lot, to legions. If we were to establish a phrase like the beatles brainwash, the final stage would be the imagine album. People that grew up in the dream, where do they go when the dreamweaver finally steps away? The vacuum of 70s pop? Disco? Punk? Arena rock? That brief period of unity smashed to pieces. There were people that never really got out of that period intact. The cover seems to sum it all up. What is "it" though? There is this idea i have, but i dont know how to describe it. Im reminded of the exterminator idea burroughs presented. The way the photo seems to be coming out of a vacuum, the way the music sounds like it was recorded using tin cans. Like the "soul" had been taken away and all that is left is... You have that one person in the imagine film they found in the bushes and he is invited into the house for toast. I would give that as an example of what i would call "the brainwash". It would be scary to know you were "responsible" for that. Also, iameye, i like the paul-as-chained-unicorn image. I was thinking about this, i probably mentioned it before, but i'll expand on it now. You had, in the mid-late 60s, the "counterculture" developing in both the u.k. and the u.s. . I know there was that illuminati record that was released in 1966 and a lot of references to the eye in the triangle from that point on. With that in mind, consider the symbol on the back of the one dollar bill, and the possibility of the people in europe looking to america as the home of the illuminati. So there is this game that was being played against the freaks in the u.s. and the u.k., the "rivalry" between the beach boys and the beatles seems like a good analogue to this. This is where i start to present contradictory information. The crest, if thats what it's called, of britain is the unicorn and the lion. The lion, the lion of the tribe of juda, could be thought of as the symbol of the aristocracy in the u.k., or simply as the united kingdom. The chained unicorn as the u.s. So you have joachim and boaz, where the u.s. is boaz and the u.k. is joachim. Where to go from here is a mystery to me. Although the way the sgt pepper cover seems to have it backwards is a good lead, im thinking.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 6, 2011 21:32:08 GMT -5
3 the N-S switch on the tracing board 4 the idea of being grounded and breaking through the imitations.
(4)imagine?
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Nov 6, 2011 21:29:01 GMT -5
You may notice, everyone's walking to the right, heading East the penny is the only american coin with the figure facing right. I think they would have to have been megalomaniacs to consider themselves equal to lincoln as far as "freeing the slaves" is concerned. Its a thought though. Sometimes its best to keep things like that to yourself, in which case we could wonder about how john lennon EXPERIENCED every line of mr. kite, if we assume that "someone" sat down to draw a connection to the penny, etc. The east is interesting, but contradictory in one sense. If they are freemasons the tracing board positions east at the top, and south would be the "right" in this case. So the beatles are going to hell, or they are on the LAM in fort lauderdale. Either way... This seems trivial, but i had never seen this until it was capitalized like the. MAL. They seem to have found themselves caught in a whirlpool of synchronicity. And thats whats interesting about all of this, the randomfactor. Even if lennon had every lyric analyzed, added, subtracted - the meter man checking the meters - you have several other meter maidens that those lyrics have to go through until they reach our "mind". You have the capitol, the emi, the paul, the ringo, the zeitgeist, the aldebaran thing, and each one shifts it, until you have us wondering if this means that. Doesnt mean it doesnt, doesnt mean it does either. Harry belafonte - the night has a thousand eyes houdini=fredericks=sinclair=st clair weird. Multiple versions, strange youtube universe of counterfeits. What if in the future iamaphoney's "marketing" get to that point. There are people that have never heard the beatles... Im cutting away from this thought, because we would never allow a counterfeit to go by unnoticed. Even if it IS the real thing. A cheap imitation of "myself". Just like "paul mccartney" is a fiction - "its paul!" "oh, hey guys" - what if this is the real secret. We are living in a world of shells. I dont like that one lyric in "alll you need is love" about learning to be me in time "its easy". Seems like a post-"ego death" instruction rather than good advice. I guess i cant get the salvador dali quote about cretinizing the public out of my head. Lets get a some basic figures to justify this rambling: 1 the penny faces east 2 possible message about freedom, at the very least the universe is talking to us 3 the N
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 23, 2011 0:08:15 GMT -5
Hey guys! I've been gone for quite a while. I don't know if any of you remember me on here, but I used to be on here all the time. Haven't been on here in forever. But, I'm back! hello, i was just reading some of your recent posts. An incredible feature, in my opinion. I noticed you were talking about how at one time the top threads were unrelated to PWR. I've noticed this as well. However, i think there is some benefit to that, particularly what you said about laurel canyon. In many ways the PWR story requires a passing knowledge of the underground of the 60s. Unfortunately, this has been turned into a kind of mythology - i remember i took acid one night and watched saturday night live, when it ended a time-life "infomercial" with peter fonda peddling 60s hits came on... And for "christ's" sake, this was a counterfeit operation if i had ever seen one. Peter fonda of "the trip" and "easy rider" fame. Peter fonda, the man who said he knew what it was like to be dead (he said this in laurel canyon). Here he was, as the skeleton king - representative of a annihilated universe, just selling me a cd "hey, dude, war is over... If you want it." The concepts of is-ness and hip-ness seem to be important in our society. The history channel universe will be coming down fast because it is built on fascinations. In other words, it answers the question it wants to answer in the exact way it wants to answer them. The beatles are not as powerful as they are made out to be. I remember i believed that if the beatles were interested in nazism then all of "pop" culture was (and may still be) a kind of fascist utensil. This peter fonda infomercial was a mainline to "something". And that sounds absurd but it's meant to. I try to write sentences that can be read by themselves. For me LSD opened my eyes to a type of humor that i can only call transcendent, because the profound absurdity of this infomercial told me more about the mindfuck we are living under than anything else i had experienced before. In terms of a great revelation, it probably has something to do with the atom bomb destroying the souls of all human beings and "god" "abandoning" "earth". This sort of thing can really freak a person out, especially if they believe it. Its fun to fuck with peoples minds, but its more fun when they want their minds to be fucked with. "you talk, i'll just watch."
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 11, 2011 12:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 11, 2011 6:57:14 GMT -5
4th times a charm.
1)The black and white, mosaic, philosopher's stone (imagine) "cancer: the mosaic tiles of the sacred place alternate black and white."
2)The chessboard that resembles a ziggurat, or step pyramid (the stone broken into 64 pieces) "taurus: i can find the 64 scattered stones of the perfect cube." 3 the knights tour around the chessboard (waltzing to gather up the fragments) "gemini: reassemble the scattered stones and working with square and compass, put them back in order."
the accursed treasure was the book that turned henry lincoln onto the mystery of rennes le chateau. The book was written by two men - pierre plantard and gerard de sede. De sede was a surrealist. He dedicated himself to fabricating extremely detailed histories and rennes le chateau was introduced to him by pierre plantard. Plantard had written the original manuscript which was revised by de sede and would be published sometime between 1967-1970. The idea that there are surrealists interested in historical revisionism interests me. It explains quite a bit. In fact, it reminds me of oz a little bit.
Anita dollars
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 11, 2011 0:12:52 GMT -5
alleged interior of a chemtrail plane where did you get that picture?
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 10, 2011 22:20:03 GMT -5
... To the black
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 10, 2011 21:53:41 GMT -5
i could have sworn i responded to this already...
I have no idea who this man is, but he initiated a horrible experience for me. He has the look of an industrialist - the money-man of the operation. Maybe it isnt wise to overlook the eye of providence, considering it is right above his head.
Then again, it might be a distraction, easily answered away as some kind of masonic plot. Unfortunately, that wouldn't lead us very far, unless we decide to study masonry. Even then, we would have to take into account the darker aspects of masonry and realize this probably has nothing in common with the tradition. The fascist are known for their opposition of secret societies, after all, crowley was booted from cefalu for this reason (and for the spy claims). So what we would be dealing with is a movement informed by two things: 1) the indo-aryan myths and 2)a protestant-germanic heritage. The latter involving the grail stories, but also what amounts to almost total cultural superiority to the rest of europe. We cant forget about what the rosicrucians actually represented. This brings me to the subject of my last post which, apparently, i forgot to post, and this has to deal with the curious document le serpent rouge. This was placed in the national library of france in 1967. I originally wrote 1965-1966, thankfully i was mistaken otherwise i wouldnt have realized it didnt post. There is a great analysis of the work somewhere out there, unfortunately im not able to search for it right now. The title is "sons of the serpent tree - le serpent rouge". The work and the analysis both interested me and reminded me of some of the research on this forum because there are references to the black
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 10, 2011 16:08:25 GMT -5
who is this man in the center of the photograph?The one next to der fuhrer? (His left hand man) Crowley's evil twin! pyramid =
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 10, 2011 4:26:52 GMT -5
who is this man in the center of the photograph? By seasaltscaramel at 2011-10-10 " but first things first...
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 10, 2011 4:24:02 GMT -5
let me try to inject some forward momentum into this instead of letting iameye and letter b bog you down into their crypt trip. the winged beatle hasn't updated for at least 5 months. the closest thing to an update is the crypt trip. or you can search for information. beacon1966 brings up a connection that doesn't seem very popular, although there is the Apollo crypt trip once again. i came here to ask my own question: who is this man in the center of the photograph? By seasaltscaramel at 2011-10-10 and don't bring the eye of providence into it either. just the facts... "...for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers..." - Ephesians 6:12 now for the meat of the post. i was reading this page a little while ago: io9.com/5800673/william-s-burroughss-wild-ride-with-scientologyfirehead.org/~pturing/occult/thelema/misc/Aleister%20Crowley%20-%20Moonchild.pdfso a good place to start is to establish some kind of chronology, and the first paragraph gives us a starting point: By seasaltscaramel at 2011-10-10 "In 1959, the same year Olympia Press published his most famous novel Naked Lunch, the writer William S. Burroughs visited the restaurant of his friend and collaborator, Brion Gysin, in Tangiers. There, Burroughs met John and Mary Cooke, a wealthy American hippie couple who were interested in mysticism. Burroughs recalled, "There was something portentous about it, as though I was seeing them in another medium, like they were sitting there as holograms." These two were scientologists. William would continue to study dianetics (although he shows a primary interest in self analysis) until some time after 1968, when he was preparing to receive the "clear" degree. Unfortunately one letter shy... Gysin is an enigmatic figure in his own right. An established artist, professional fruitcake, thrown out of the surrealist circle when he was a teenager. The two, Burroughs and Gysin, were mutually inspiring each other from the time they met until the end. I just found out that Brion wrote a book, "the process": "The Process is notable not only for its evocative and poetic descriptions of the Sahara Desert and Sufi culture, but also for the history it documents. Most notably, Gysin's encounters with L. Ron Hubbard and The Master Musicians of Jajouka. "The Process features Thay and Mya Himmer, who are based on John and Mary Cooke, a couple who financed Gysin's 1001 Nights restaurant in Tangier. John Starr Cooke gave Gysin the large emerald which features as the Seal of the Sahara." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Process_%28novel%29Apparently, the audits inspired Burroughs and he wrote this in two letters to Allen Ginsberg oct. 27&29 1959: "The method of directed recall is the method of Scientology. You will recall I wrote urging you to contact local chapter and find an auditor. They do the job without hypnosis or drugs, simply run the tape back and forth until the trauma is wiped off. It works. I have used the method—partially responsible for recent changes."27 "I have a new method of writing and do not want to publish anything that has not been inspected and processed. I cannot explain this method to you until you have necessary training. So once again and most urgently (believe me there is not much time)—I tell you: 'Find a Scientology Auditor and have yourself run.'" 29 I was reminded of sgt. pepper for some reason when i read that final part. as if the work needed to be complete by formula or pieced together just so... the following is really interesting only if you are into 9 minute art films having something to do with destroying the mayan control system. or something like that. www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAxUWfe_PJYthe role scientology plays in the nova trilogy is particularly interesting, because these are some of his most popular books, and were constructed from a trunk full of short stories he had written in tangiers. By seasaltscaramel at 2011-10-10 i bet the mayan caper is in one of those shelves... (do you think he had some type of id ego super ego thing happening with those racks?) either way, im not sure exactly how to keep adding information so i will clear out after bringing this video to your attention. i suggest watching it, even if you dont like "destroy the mayan control system"-esque short films. it is basically a scientology "audit" but what you are left with is the notion that the audits just implant the auditor into the auditee(? - it works...): www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TtyaIcNWlXQletter b, this is what i meant by eckankar is ... flawed. i just get this creepy "C.I.A." feeling about it. (i added the links in case they weren't embedded) "she was once a beautiful woman..."
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 8, 2011 0:21:27 GMT -5
check out the new rolling stone to see what i mean by australia's shit show
i didnt...
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 6, 2011 2:19:08 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 5, 2011 5:20:19 GMT -5
im not really communicating with joe meek, i was trying to make a point about how lets not talk about australia's shit show, or whatever happened to those oil spills, lets talk about paul mccartney being abducted by aliens.
for the record, i do believe the subject of PID is not a total waste of time. it brings to light a lot of hidden aspects of the culture industry and, hopefully, can destroy some naivety at the same time. it is kind of hard to believe the beatles were essentially bullshitting everyone with their first few records. but its understandable. you got to get your foot in the door... its even harder to accept that the beatles never really had respect for their "bread and butter" audience.
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