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Post by thefly on Apr 21, 2006 9:12:07 GMT -5
I kept thinking about the White Album picture of "William Campbell" and something didn't fit right... Here's the picture of "William"  And here's a picture of Paul's father, Jim.  \ The supposed picture of Shears, or Campbell or whoever looks to be about 30 something, and looks like it was taken in the 50s... just by looking at the glasses, it looks heavily, if not, to be Paul's father in his youth. Every son resembles his biological father. |
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Post by thefly on Apr 21, 2006 9:33:40 GMT -5
Here's another pic of his father Jim. Look at the glasses...  |
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Post by beatlies on Apr 21, 2006 9:35:36 GMT -5
It doesn't really look like a 50s photo to me, aside from it being in black and white. Definitely a Faul photo, the half-shadowing of Faul mirrors the half-shadow, composite doctored color photo of the Faul/JPM face that is included in the white album.
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Post by -Wings- on Apr 21, 2006 14:53:25 GMT -5
And the "official" explanation given for that photo was that it was of Paul in disguise. Had it simply been Jim McCartney, why not tell us that? In fact, that would have been a more convincing explanation entirely.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Apr 21, 2006 16:59:28 GMT -5
That would have been an interesting thing had it not been Bill himself. But that was just an image to appear to have been taken longer ago than 1967-68.
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Post by jerriwillmore on Apr 25, 2006 18:24:52 GMT -5
I find it interesting...
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Post by thefly on May 5, 2006 7:46:49 GMT -5
Here's another possibility, Paul was dressing up as Buddy Holly... possible?  I kept trying to put 2 and 2 together, I think there's some type of Buddy Holly, Beatles connection... Buddy Holly died young, and then people would say Paul died young... is there some type of connection? |
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Post by DarkHorse on May 5, 2006 13:58:54 GMT -5
So are you saying that the guy on the White Album poster is Paul or Paul's dad?
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Post by thefly on May 5, 2006 23:24:41 GMT -5
So are you saying that the guy on the White Album poster is Paul or Paul's dad? I think it's Paul's dad. |
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Post by luvleerita on May 6, 2006 16:29:03 GMT -5
The White Album picture reminds me of someone in disguise. Like when Elvis would hide behind glasses.
It is interesting to bring up Buddy Holly. Funny that he was killed on a plane that shouldn't have even tried to take off. The weather was so bad, the visibility crappy in the middle of a blizzard in the Northwest....why would they even try to leave? On VH1's Behind the music, they said the pilot was not very old and not very experienced with piloting.
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Post by JoJo on May 6, 2006 23:04:01 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Neil Aspinal claimed this was Paul, playing a prank by disguising himself at a restaurant in Sweden and pretending to be some madcap photographer. He claimed Paul was 19, so this would be 1961 or '62.. From Neil himself: LINK |
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Post by -Wings- on May 7, 2006 0:49:42 GMT -5
The reason I have trouble buying that explanation is that it looks like a driver's license photo of sorts. Not saying that's what it is, but the bored facial expression and the way it's framed (not to mention the white backdrop) doesn't give the appearance of a photo capturing a prank with a young Paul McCartney in disguise. That said, I'll relent and admit that the man, whichever McCartney or faux-McCartney it is, is thin enough to pass as a very young James Paul.   I just don't think it is. The nose is off. The chin is off. There's a resemblance though, but then there would have to be no matter which way it swung, wouldn't there? |
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Post by beatlies on May 7, 2006 3:54:50 GMT -5
The reason I have trouble buying that explanation is that it looks like a driver's license photo of sorts. Not saying that's what it is, but the bored facial expression and the way it's framed (not to mention the white backdrop) doesn't give the appearance of a photo capturing a prank with a young Paul McCartney in disguise. That said, I'll relent and admit that the man, whichever McCartney or faux-McCartney it is, is thin enough to pass as a very young James Paul. I just don't think it is. The nose is off. The chin is off. There's a resemblance though, but then there would have to be no matter which way it swung, wouldn't there? The photo on the right of the young JPM shows signs of being doctored/fabricated to make JPM look more like the Faul imposter. The backgrounds don't match and the eye distance seems too close, among other problems. This has been discussed on the TKIN forum. As for the man in mustache and glasses photo, it's clearly a Faul in a sterotypical "undercover" spy-type disguise, put in the white album poster as a clue (the poster is comprised entirely or nearly entirely of clues). Also, JPM's father had a rounder head, similar to JPM's round head, as opposed to the longer head of the glasses man/Faul. |
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Post by JoJo on May 7, 2006 9:32:14 GMT -5
I suspect an event such as Neil described actually happened, so it sounded like a good enough explanation as any. The impression I get is that the job of radio interviews conducted by phone with the Beatles organization fell to Derek and Neil for the most part, who were stuck with the unenviable job of coming up with answers on the fly..
Derek in 1967 on his radio show: "I'd like to thank Billy Shears"..
Derek in 1969, in an exasperated tone of voice: "Billy Shears is a made up person!"
It's not Paul IMO, despite what Neil said, and were it a picture of his Dad, that would have been a easy way to put that one away in short order.. (too bad he didn't think of it at the time)
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Post by DarkHorse on May 7, 2006 9:47:02 GMT -5
The reason I have trouble buying that explanation is that it looks like a driver's license photo of sorts. Not saying that's what it is, but the bored facial expression and the way it's framed (not to mention the white backdrop) doesn't give the appearance of a photo capturing a prank with a young Paul McCartney in disguise. That said, I'll relent and admit that the man, whichever McCartney or faux-McCartney it is, is thin enough to pass as a very young James Paul. I just don't think it is. The nose is off. The chin is off. There's a resemblance though, but then there would have to be no matter which way it swung, wouldn't there? The photo on the right of the young JPM shows signs of being doctored/fabricated to make JPM look more like the Faul imposter. You mean the photo on the left, right?  |
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Post by beatlies on May 7, 2006 10:17:26 GMT -5
The photo on the right of the young JPM shows signs of being doctored/fabricated to make JPM look more like the Faul imposter. You mean the photo on the left, right? Right, left. The problems of being through the looking glass .......... |
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Post by Doc on May 7, 2006 10:23:07 GMT -5
You mean the photo on the left, right? Right, left. Harch. |
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Post by Doc on May 7, 2006 10:24:05 GMT -5
Wait, did someone do an "about face"?
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Post by DarkHorse on May 7, 2006 10:30:15 GMT -5
Boom! chuggaluggalugga Boom! chuggaluggalugga. |
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Post by eyesbleed on May 7, 2006 11:26:12 GMT -5
Well I'm glad we got that cleared up!
I wonder if we'll ever come up with a definate answer as to who that is in the poster photo.
If it isn't Bill...... maybe it could be Bill's father.
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Post by eyesbleed on May 7, 2006 11:35:54 GMT -5
Since the pic of JPM's dad posin' with Bill & Linda was posted, I'll post one with JPM posin' with him. I always thought this was a creepy comparison.   |
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Post by plastic paul on May 7, 2006 18:41:05 GMT -5
I think the WA pic has to be Bill.
The nose appears too thin IMO as well as the lip width as in most modern, candid photo's of Bill make him look like he has a small-ish mouth a la White Album photo.
My only problem comes (and I hate to say it but I think it's a fact) when I compare contemporary Bill with JPM's father, they are rather similar looking - same sort of expressions....
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Post by Doc on May 7, 2006 20:15:51 GMT -5
I think the WA pic has to be Bill. The nose appears too thin IMO as well as the lip width as in most modern, candid photo's of Bill make him look like he has a small-ish mouth a la White Album photo. My only problem comes (and I hate to say it but I think it's a fact) when I compare contemporary Bill with JPM's father, they are rather similar looking - same sort of expressions.... I dunno. They look a great deal alike to me. For all anyone knows, maybe that ISN'T actually JPM's dad. Maybe that's another double TOO!---a double for JPM's dad played by---of course---none other than William himself......in this hall of mirrors we call PWR. |
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Post by DarkHorse on May 7, 2006 20:20:48 GMT -5
Don't forget how perfectly the fades matched up from Bill to the WA picture. I know we don't rely on fades here but when they are that close it still means something. |
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Post by JoJo on Jun 6, 2009 22:14:29 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Neil Aspinal claimed this was Paul, playing a prank by disguising himself at a restaurant in Sweden and pretending to be some madcap photographer. He claimed Paul was 19, so this would be 1961 or '62.. From Neil himself: LINKNeil said no one in their group (himself, John George and Pete I would assume) recognized Paul with his glasses and mustache.. Makes very little sense if you think about it. I guess Neil is saying a mustache makes someone unrecognizable? (it's really him, you just don't recognize with this amazing disguise) |
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