Post by Doc on Apr 28, 2005 0:37:36 GMT -5
I need to move on from these boards and this discussion.
It's been interesting; good luck to everyone in their seeking.
I don't know what to believe anymore; there is a funny element to all of this I can't quite figure out. The acrimony and striving between people is too much to continue to endure, for me. I do not enjoy being the object of some derision in certain cliques. Of course its anyone's, or any groups, right to their opinion(s). But, I gotta go.
Flaming, I never understood this. There was a middle aged man with thin hair in a pink ballet tutu on macca4ever. Amusing. You remarked that it looked a lot like me.
How would you know? Have we met?
I never posted anything other than old, pictures of me from my younger days, thinner with long hair.[That 45 year old man in the pink tutu does
not look like me at 21. ]
I posted one recent picture on the PRIVATE section of 60IF once, which I removed after a short time.
So, either you spent time on the inside of TKIN!, or you have seen me or pictures of me. And, NO, I have never worn a pink tutu.
It was blue. NO! Not really! I have never worn such a garment.
But, you'd have to have seen me more recently to make the leap to the comparison you made. Pure and simple. Unless you are able to do instant age progression in your mind's eye. I am jiving you--you're intelligent, and accomplished and able to make an intelligent case with pictures for PIA. I can't and don't knock you, FP.
But, how you know how I look is disturbing. Frankly, I don't care.
People all over town get unfortunate glimpses of my chubby, middle aged condition all day! Who cares!
But you live up north......
Another topic:
And, it seems a person or two is posting on both sides.
I appeared to do that, (in a way, not really), but in the open. What I posted at macca4ever, TKIN, and NIR, was posted in the open, clearly for all to see that it was me searching, seeking. I ASSUMED the PIA side for a time in order to see if I could come to believe it. This greatly offended Acrostic Unicorn and maybe others. I was called "everyone's favorite incoherent babbler."
Well, I hope I am making sense now!
But my point, there is one person playing two people. I'll not say. Probably there are more than one. I found that by mistake. That's fine, but certainly looks concerted. N'est pas?
So, I can only imagine how deep that goes. But, this is America.
I've walked into being dished before. But, at least I could see who was doing it! I fear that, in this situation, you're never sure whether that when you shake a hand, the other arm isn't down at their waist in a fist! A punchy situation.
Oh, and I never intended to join the macca funhouse. I am not putting it down. But, there was no need for the people, as a group, to have to once again, "adapt" to me.
Please, I would not have you adapt to anything, I am happy to stay out!
I don't need defending or pampering, or special understanding. Please go about your nightly posts without having to starin for me.
It isn't as if some of my style hasn't been copied a time or two...
To spoof? I had fun, haven't many of you? (Fun exploring style, formats, structures..)
As far as the more serious question here, about the Beatles, and of course, Paul McCartney, I have no concrete answers. I would only venture to say that the overwhelming total of the PR leaves some room for questions......but for definite? Nobody has a concrete pot to twist in.
You already know what I think.
I do sincerely wish everyone the best at finding answers to the many questions they have about the Beatles, and those years,
etc.
Frighty--maybe I seem sometimes like a moron, or whatever it was you called me, but really, watch "Help!" very closely. Study it. You may percieve the same things I do. You may not. If I am wrong, maybe I purchased a botched DVD.
I dunno. Maybe I am an imbecile, or moron, or whatever the word was. Maybe I am half blind with poor spacial perception. Maybe I suffer from that cognitive inability to recognize faces. But, I am leaving, so, it matters not anymore.
I am sore for being lampooned, to be sure! And, I am frustrated by a lot of "attitude" between these boards. But, whatever else you think of me, those who don't like me, you would be wrong if you thought I wished anyone harm, or didn't believe that you were doing your sincere best.
I "flip the finger" at no one.
But, when I feel like a dead goat a cocktail party, I leave.
I've never wished anything bad for anyone in all of these discussions.
Other side of the coin: Many of you have been very nice, genuinely supportive, and we had some great interactions! Thank you!
I sincerely hope that Larrcy C and Tess are doing well, and happy after closing m4e.
I sincerely hope that Sir Paul, as I am sure that he will, as we are all sure that he will. continues having this terrific, mountaintop experience in this long, phenominal career.
I have never questioned his devotion or sincerity. I have never thought there was a question of integrity on his end. I have never questioned that his own personal efforts have garnered his own success.
You could only replace one supremely talented rock and roll musician with ANOTHER supremely talented rock and roll musician.
And if I am wrong, then he was lucky to have been one man with such a diverse career.
And, about Sun King? I have to assume that whoever Sun King is, and that is as big a mystery as everything else--whoever he is, I personally believe that he KNEW the Beatles-----from early on.
I think he's genuinely researching.
I hope he resolves everything for himself, and soon.
From this experience I conclude:
1) Keep dissident opinions to yourself.
2) Don't push the free speach issue.
3) Believe the nightly news reports, and quote them enthusiastically.
4) Don't form an opinion about religion. But, if you do, for God's sake don't share it on the net.
5) Recognise that people with controversial views are often freaks, weirdos, and dangerous to democracy.
6) Use British spellings whenever possible.
7) Leave the show before your ratings dive into a tailspin.
8) Never let them see you sweat. But, if they do, hose down in dignity.
And, that was the news on April 28, 2005.
It's been interesting; good luck to everyone in their seeking.
I don't know what to believe anymore; there is a funny element to all of this I can't quite figure out. The acrimony and striving between people is too much to continue to endure, for me. I do not enjoy being the object of some derision in certain cliques. Of course its anyone's, or any groups, right to their opinion(s). But, I gotta go.
Flaming, I never understood this. There was a middle aged man with thin hair in a pink ballet tutu on macca4ever. Amusing. You remarked that it looked a lot like me.
How would you know? Have we met?
I never posted anything other than old, pictures of me from my younger days, thinner with long hair.[That 45 year old man in the pink tutu does
not look like me at 21. ]
I posted one recent picture on the PRIVATE section of 60IF once, which I removed after a short time.
So, either you spent time on the inside of TKIN!, or you have seen me or pictures of me. And, NO, I have never worn a pink tutu.
It was blue. NO! Not really! I have never worn such a garment.
But, you'd have to have seen me more recently to make the leap to the comparison you made. Pure and simple. Unless you are able to do instant age progression in your mind's eye. I am jiving you--you're intelligent, and accomplished and able to make an intelligent case with pictures for PIA. I can't and don't knock you, FP.
But, how you know how I look is disturbing. Frankly, I don't care.
People all over town get unfortunate glimpses of my chubby, middle aged condition all day! Who cares!
But you live up north......
Another topic:
And, it seems a person or two is posting on both sides.
I appeared to do that, (in a way, not really), but in the open. What I posted at macca4ever, TKIN, and NIR, was posted in the open, clearly for all to see that it was me searching, seeking. I ASSUMED the PIA side for a time in order to see if I could come to believe it. This greatly offended Acrostic Unicorn and maybe others. I was called "everyone's favorite incoherent babbler."
Well, I hope I am making sense now!
But my point, there is one person playing two people. I'll not say. Probably there are more than one. I found that by mistake. That's fine, but certainly looks concerted. N'est pas?
So, I can only imagine how deep that goes. But, this is America.
I've walked into being dished before. But, at least I could see who was doing it! I fear that, in this situation, you're never sure whether that when you shake a hand, the other arm isn't down at their waist in a fist! A punchy situation.
Oh, and I never intended to join the macca funhouse. I am not putting it down. But, there was no need for the people, as a group, to have to once again, "adapt" to me.
Please, I would not have you adapt to anything, I am happy to stay out!
I don't need defending or pampering, or special understanding. Please go about your nightly posts without having to starin for me.
It isn't as if some of my style hasn't been copied a time or two...
To spoof? I had fun, haven't many of you? (Fun exploring style, formats, structures..)
As far as the more serious question here, about the Beatles, and of course, Paul McCartney, I have no concrete answers. I would only venture to say that the overwhelming total of the PR leaves some room for questions......but for definite? Nobody has a concrete pot to twist in.
You already know what I think.
I do sincerely wish everyone the best at finding answers to the many questions they have about the Beatles, and those years,
etc.
Frighty--maybe I seem sometimes like a moron, or whatever it was you called me, but really, watch "Help!" very closely. Study it. You may percieve the same things I do. You may not. If I am wrong, maybe I purchased a botched DVD.
I dunno. Maybe I am an imbecile, or moron, or whatever the word was. Maybe I am half blind with poor spacial perception. Maybe I suffer from that cognitive inability to recognize faces. But, I am leaving, so, it matters not anymore.
I am sore for being lampooned, to be sure! And, I am frustrated by a lot of "attitude" between these boards. But, whatever else you think of me, those who don't like me, you would be wrong if you thought I wished anyone harm, or didn't believe that you were doing your sincere best.
I "flip the finger" at no one.
But, when I feel like a dead goat a cocktail party, I leave.
I've never wished anything bad for anyone in all of these discussions.
Other side of the coin: Many of you have been very nice, genuinely supportive, and we had some great interactions! Thank you!
I sincerely hope that Larrcy C and Tess are doing well, and happy after closing m4e.
I sincerely hope that Sir Paul, as I am sure that he will, as we are all sure that he will. continues having this terrific, mountaintop experience in this long, phenominal career.
I have never questioned his devotion or sincerity. I have never thought there was a question of integrity on his end. I have never questioned that his own personal efforts have garnered his own success.
You could only replace one supremely talented rock and roll musician with ANOTHER supremely talented rock and roll musician.
And if I am wrong, then he was lucky to have been one man with such a diverse career.
And, about Sun King? I have to assume that whoever Sun King is, and that is as big a mystery as everything else--whoever he is, I personally believe that he KNEW the Beatles-----from early on.
I think he's genuinely researching.
I hope he resolves everything for himself, and soon.
From this experience I conclude:
1) Keep dissident opinions to yourself.
2) Don't push the free speach issue.
3) Believe the nightly news reports, and quote them enthusiastically.
4) Don't form an opinion about religion. But, if you do, for God's sake don't share it on the net.
5) Recognise that people with controversial views are often freaks, weirdos, and dangerous to democracy.
6) Use British spellings whenever possible.
7) Leave the show before your ratings dive into a tailspin.
8) Never let them see you sweat. But, if they do, hose down in dignity.
And, that was the news on April 28, 2005.
