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Post by Doc on Sept 21, 2005 1:26:29 GMT -5
I was in seventh heaven all night. Fantastic. I have too much to say, to even remember much of it right now. Details to follow. (I'll make notes first.) My main reaction:
Wow! He put on a great show. They rocked, they did nostalgia, they did Beatles, Wings, 90's Sir Paul, C&C, and it was in there. What a terrific set of guys in the band. There is no end to the technical splash. Macca gives 110% up there on that stage, man. The whole crew did. World class. I'll stop gushing for now.
I sure am glad I went.
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Post by JoJo on Sept 21, 2005 14:38:08 GMT -5
Well.. I want the first response here to be a little uh...nicer than the one at TKIN.. Glad you had a good time, and I'm not ashamed to say I'm totally psyched to be going in a week! So there, lol.
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Post by -Wings- on Sept 21, 2005 15:49:08 GMT -5
You were so lucky, DoctorRobert. I'm too financially strapped to attend right now, but I've got to go see him one of these days.
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Post by JoJo on Sept 28, 2005 0:22:31 GMT -5
I'm too tired to comment other than to say WOW!! It was all ya said Doc. More later..
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Post by JoJo on Sept 28, 2005 17:26:26 GMT -5
Well... I was just ten feet away from him.. Neeedless to say quite a mindblower after all..."this".. Started about 45 minutes after the posted show time, and the pre-show was a slide show of his art on TV screens. The Twin Freaks cover came up, and then it kinda melted with the two faces blending into each other. As a side note, the guy sitting next to me was obviously one of those "I spent big bucks to be here, ain't I great" types. (he had no freakin' idea what the Freaks cover was, or even that we were looking at Sir Paul's art) Had his cell phone camera going all the time too, yeesh! But man I gotta tell you, Bill or no, this was the best show I have EVER been to, 100 times over!! It's hard to describe it really, maybe the Doc knows what I mean, but I was left with this good feeling that defies explanation. Maybe it was the vibe running through the crowd, "each one believing" (and loving this guy) perhaps. First thing I thought when I saw him was..my God he is a lot shorter than I was expecting! Someone at one of the boards reported that a friend said he was no more than 5'-10", and I'd say yes, perhaps even an inch or two less, because he was wearing shoes with somewhat elevated heels. Secondly, he is a small framed guy. They were all real thin, (except Abe of course) but Bill is slight of build, no question about it. Would I go again? In a heartbeat! Wish I had gone to Monday's show, oh well. PS: He has blue eyes, not brown, not green/hazel, they are blue, no question about it, the lighting was more than adequate to make it out..Maybe there will be a story soon where he says he's been experimenting with blue contacts, but that's what I saw.
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Post by JoJo on Sept 28, 2005 20:28:30 GMT -5
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Post by revolver on Sept 28, 2005 21:20:38 GMT -5
Wow, that's some set. Where does he get the energy? It's even more impressive if we factor in his estimated real age!
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Post by pennylane on Sept 29, 2005 1:30:37 GMT -5
PS: He has blue eyes, not brown, not green/hazel, they are blue, no question about it, the lighting was more than adequate to make it out..Maybe there will be a story soon where he says he's been experimenting with blue contacts, but that's what I saw. I see blue too wow it sounded like a great show.. so glad you enjoyed it! *feeling VERY jealous*
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Post by Doc on Sept 29, 2005 2:59:17 GMT -5
PS: He has blue eyes, not brown, not green/hazel, they are blue, no question about it, the lighting was more than adequate to make it out..Maybe there will be a story soon where he says he's been experimenting with blue contacts, but that's what I saw. I see blue too wow it sounded like a great show.. so glad you enjoyed it! *feeling VERY jealous* Sir Paul was fierce! The music, the band, very very tight. Show design was delightful----no, more, it was moving and well directed. Those that can afford to should really try to go. Tickets are not cheap----but, then, think value and attend, if you've had a good harvest lately.
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Post by Maracuja on Sept 29, 2005 19:52:28 GMT -5
Well... I was just ten feet away from him.. Neeedless to say quite a mindblower after all..."this".. Started about 45 minutes after the posted show time, and the pre-show was a slide show of his art on TV screens. The Twin Freaks cover came up, and then it kinda melted with the two faces blending into each other. As a side note, the guy sitting next to me was obviously one of those "I spent big bucks to be here, ain't I great" types. (he had no freakin' idea what the Freaks cover was, or even that we were looking at Sir Paul's art) Had his cell phone camera going all the time too, yeesh! But man I gotta tell you, Bill or no, this was the best show I have EVER been to, 100 times over!! It's hard to describe it really, maybe the Doc knows what I mean, but I was left with this good feeling that defies explanation. Maybe it was the vibe running through the crowd, "each one believing" (and loving this guy) perhaps. First thing I thought when I saw him was..my God he is a lot shorter than I was expecting! Someone at one of the boards reported that a friend said he was no more than 5'-10", and I'd say yes, perhaps even an inch or two less, because he was wearing shoes with somewhat elevated heels. Secondly, he is a small framed guy. They were all real thin, (except Abe of course) but Bill is slight of build, no question about it. Would I go again? In a heartbeat! Wish I had gone to Monday's show, oh well. PS: He has blue eyes, not brown, not green/hazel, they are blue, no question about it, the lighting was more than adequate to make it out..Maybe there will be a story soon where he says he's been experimenting with blue contacts, but that's what I saw. I totally agree with you Jojo. Thanks to a friend of mine I got front row seat and was close enough to almost touch Paul (Fall or Bill). Hey he spoke to me! I almost died! He was mocking me of course, offering me his precious guitar, only to retrieve it when I (and everyone around me) reached for it. He said "Sorry, it's not mine. I can't give it to you" It was the best concert I have ever been to, and I have been to a lot of concerts. He has so much energy, is so friendly to the audience, and such a dear to the Bostonians. I don't really care who he is,k but whoever he is, he's absolutely awesome. He played, (I didn't think he would) "Till There Was You". I almost died because that's my favorite. He played for 3 hours with no breaks. It was an evening I will never forget. Yeah, I was close enough to see he has blue eyes. I agree, he is a small frame , nothing like the man we see in "Hello Good Bye" It was also amazing to me that he and the young band were able to reproduce (exactly) the sounds and the voices of the old Beatles. The man is amazingly awesome.
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Post by JoJo on Sept 29, 2005 20:03:00 GMT -5
Hey he spoke to me! I almost died! He was mocking me of course, offering me his precious guitar, only to retrieve it when I (and everyone around me) reached for it. He said "Sorry, it's not mine. I can't give it to you" It's not mine.. (it's his) I missed that part, and he was pointing to a stage hand. Yeah he was just joking of course. That was the Hofner btw..
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Post by Valis on Oct 1, 2005 0:10:15 GMT -5
There is one very odd (obscure+early solo) song in his current setlist IMO, "Too Many People"off RAM. Here's the lyrics:
Too many people going underground, Too many reaching for a piece of cake. Too many people pulled and pushed around, Too many waiting for that lucky break.
That was your first mistake, You took your lucky break and broke it in two. Now what can be done for you? You broke it in two.
Too many people sharing party lines, Too many people never sleeping late. Too many people paying parking fines, Too many hungry people losing weight.
That was your first mistake, You took your lucky break and broke it in two. Now what can be done for you? You broke it in two.
Too many people breaching practices Don't let them tell you what you wanna be. Too many people holding back, This Is crazy and maybe it's not like me.
That was your last mistake, I find my love awake and waiting to be. Now what can be done for you?
She's waiting for me
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Post by TotalInformation on Oct 2, 2005 1:48:41 GMT -5
"Too Many People" was said to be written as a response to Lennon's criticism of Faul's silly love songs.
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Post by beatlies on Oct 2, 2005 4:32:36 GMT -5
Actually "Too Many People" on Faul's album "Ram"(one) (insider Ramone/Shepherd allusion) came first in 1971 as an attack by agent Faul on John Lennon for being too political and, to the masses of listeners hearing the song lyrics, for breaking up the Beatles: "that was your first mistake/ you took your lucky break and broke it in two/ now what can be done for you/ you broke it in two." Another song on Ram, "Dear Boy" also seems to attack Lennon.
Lennon responded to MI6-Shepherd's "Too Many People" attacks with "How Do You Sleep" and "Crippled Inside" on "Imagine" released in in 1971.
MI6-Faul's disco-sounding, sneering "Silly Love Songs" didn't appear until 1976, the year Mal Evans was assassinated by "the LAPD" in Los Angeles, where it hit number one on the charts and stayed at the top for weeks.
Everyone should keep in mind that it's unlikely Bill Shepherd/Sheppard actually writes the songs he sings. They are scripted for him although he probably has some input, and maybe writes part of some of them.
He probably had a little help from non-Beatles in the Beatles period in writing new songs or lifting from other songs, for example ---
"Obladi Oblada" sounds like Ray Davies' style.
"Honey Pie" sounds like "On The Good Ship Lollipop" of Sgt. Pepper cover repetition's Shirley Temple
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Post by TotalInformation on Oct 2, 2005 5:38:08 GMT -5
I meant his silly love songs in general, not his "Silly Love Songs" per se. Thanks for the context.
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Post by beatlies on Oct 2, 2005 6:12:14 GMT -5
Yes, I wasn't sure how you meant it and responded so that my reply works either way ---Lennon had produced no songs critical of Faul's silly love songs until Faul's opening broadsides against him in "Ram(one)" ......
The duel started up again in a more covert way in 1979-1980 when Faul released "McCartney II" with a no-lyrics "intrumental" song on it with the racist title "Frozen Jap" (!!!!!) and a cover with his face with two shadows going in opposite directions, one of which looks something like the silhouette of a walrus. Lennon then, in January of 1980, had Faul arrested in Tokyo's airport for drug possession with the help of Yoko. Faul may have been detained in a prison much longer than usual for a mega-milliionaire superstar because his fingerprints didn't match those of JPM when he toured Japan with the Beatles in 1966 (my speculation).
In December 1980, Lennon was assassinated after releasing Double Fantasy (the double's fantasy of being "McCartney II"). He hadn't been playing along well with the fraud, and what better way to usher in the Reagan-Bushes epoch?
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Post by eyesbleed on Oct 2, 2005 8:33:39 GMT -5
I agree, he is a small frame , nothing like the man we see in "Hello Good Bye" . Very strange.. I can't stop thinkin' about this..... between that observation & this amazing new cd, I can't help but wonder what's up.
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Post by TotalInformation on Oct 2, 2005 12:17:07 GMT -5
Age (68?) twists the spine, a malnutritive vegan diet adds to the effect and leaves him slight of frame...
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Post by TotalInformation on Oct 2, 2005 12:18:07 GMT -5
I would call it rather the Bush epoch, considering Sir Poppy ran a parallel op Reagan three months later.
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Post by TotalInformation on Oct 2, 2005 12:28:49 GMT -5
Just some thoughts on my not going to this tour...
Part of what makes us human is empathy. In this case it is important to be able to empathisize with the faux-Paul, if just to be able to get inside his head and begin to understand the true, unwritten history.
Thus it is important to not to hate the faux-Paul.
All that said, I am not comfortable giving direct financial support to an enterprise I know to be an outrageous fraud. I will/did not buy a ticket to this latest tour for that reason.
I find it creepy when he makes it a point to speak as and with the moral authorty of, JPM, as he did in "Let in Be." It's even more chilling when he presumes to speak with the Messianic authority as a risen JPM as he did in "Hey Jude." . He seems to be doing much of this in his new album, with a picture of JPM on the cover, a deliberate link to the JPM compostion Blackbird, the Christ illusion in "Follow Me." "Fine Line" in particular emphasizes his latest decision to invite the listener to join him in acceptance of this "happy lie" of PAUL MCCARTNEY.
And he caps it all of with the title "Chaos and Creation," an allusion to the Masonic motto "Ordo Ab Chao."
Thanks but no thanks, Beatle-Bill.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 2, 2005 17:06:19 GMT -5
Everyone should keep in mind that it's unlikely Bill Shepherd/Sheppard actually writes the songs he sings. They are scripted for him although he probably has some input, and maybe writes part of some of them. I tend to think it's more like: He had some help in the beginning. But like you, I'm just guessing..
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Post by beatlies on Oct 4, 2005 1:59:55 GMT -5
Who really wrote the songs attributed to 1967 - Present Faul? That can be a fun parlor game.
MI6 could have wrangled a lot of the songwriting talent around into co-writing songs for the desperate Beatles. Cat Stevens, David Bowie, Terry Melcher, Brian Wilson, Elton John, Harry Nilsson, Goffin and King, Ray Davies were all writing songs for themselves and for other performers in the period 1967-1970.
"Maybe I'm Amazed" sounds like the style of Elton John.
"Let It Be" seems to be quite close to the Gilbert Becaud '50s hit "Let It Be Me" with some overlay of "Hey Jude" or "The Long and Winding Road" (a song written by John Lennon). The lyrics suggest the Doris Day hit "Que Sera Sera" .......
"Rocky Raccoon" melodically resembles the Doris Day favorite "The Black Hills of Dakota" of "Calamity Jane" of Broadway.
"Hey Jude" resembles an improved version of "Mellow Yellow" that Donovan produced a year earlier, with Faul being one of the background voices.
"Two of Us" melodically sounds like Simon and Garfunkel's "Homeward Bound" and the lyrics are probably Lennon's.
etc. etc. etc.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 4, 2005 19:09:36 GMT -5
Wait are you saying his music is so good that a platoon of MI5 musical experts were brought in to write them? That's quite the U-turn from the commonly held conception of McCartney work as "lightweight", and whatever words have been used these many years. I'll grant you it's uneven.. If you were to denconstruct other artists' work with the same scrutiny that has been applied to Bill's work, you would no doubt find influences from other styles, and yes certainly other songs. Doesn't that business go on all the time? The early Beatles were said to borrow quite liberally from other styles as well, aided by procuring records from sailors returning from abroad. (other groups in Liverpool did the same thing, a fortunate circumstance of their location it seems) The "quite rightly" voice is credited to "Paul McCartney", this is quite true. Mellow Yellow: www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/MellowYellow/Mellow%20Yellow.mp3It's difficult for me to hear where you are coming from, although they were good friends and worked together, some of the White Album session stuff I have has them conversing/composing together. (with Donovan being the patient instructor IMO) A good page that discusses the Beatles musical style through the years: www.uwgb.edu/ogradyt/BEATLES.htm
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Post by Doc on Oct 4, 2005 23:31:36 GMT -5
nice summations, jojo, in that webpage, I like the guy's interpretations.......
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Post by TotalInformation on Oct 5, 2005 0:27:15 GMT -5
Why would a "platoon of MI5 agents" be necessarily able to write good songs?
His work is uneven because he has had many varied uncredited "collaborators" over the years. The reason the PAUL MCCARTNEY work is different than most others when examined is because on the whole it's a brand name after late 1966, not a singular genuine person writing with his own one voice...
"Hey Jude" was almost certainly a Faul/Yoko collaboration...
Would love to hear the India boots with Donovan. He must have contributed something to the "white album."
I bet that's JPM from Mellow Yellow though. Recorded June 66 or so.
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