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Post by SimMHoward on Mar 10, 2004 17:12:51 GMT -5
I hate to feel that I'm taking the place of a mod here, but I think everyone needs to know what direction this forum is going to take, right now it looks like I'm one of a few pro-PIAers left, maybe three, me, Larry, and FP(sorry if I forgot anyone else) Where are you going, are you going to let Darkhorse be hostile and scare us all away? Are you going to try and be open minded about this whole thing and listen, or will you simply ban us? You've pulled one thing out of your hat that doesn't work, photo fades, who here got that $100 book on skulls SK wanted you to get? If you did, tell me where it mentions the use of photos to compare, because I've never heard elsewhere that you can use them accurately in that kind of thing. I'm currently taking a forensics course, and have one semester left, so I don't consider myself an amature on the subject.
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Post by revolver on Mar 10, 2004 17:44:08 GMT -5
If I understand the purpose of this forum correctly (and it's very possible I don't) it's not to debate whether Paul was replaced, just how and why. PIAers are welcome here as long as they don't try to convince anyone that Faul is Paul. That topic should be off the table. We don't want to go back to debating PIAers with photo overlays and whatnot. The overlays are just a tool to help form an opinion, they wouldn't hold up in a court of law. Many people can see the difference better with side-by-side photos. (The above is just my opinion, it may not reflect that of the forum admins.)
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Post by SimMHoward on Mar 10, 2004 18:49:59 GMT -5
From forum rules "6.- ABOUT SKEPTICISM. Skepticism is fine, as long as rule number one is followed at all times. The moderators will determine whether rule number one is being broken and what action to take. See rule number five..."
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Post by lj on Mar 10, 2004 18:56:02 GMT -5
well, first, sorry but DarkHorse has not been hostile with anyone. if you consider his question "why are you here?" as hostile... the only thing i can say is that sometimes the intention is not on the speaker, but on the listener. i'm not sure if i explain myself. apart from that, and i'm talking for myself here, i was hoping noone actually HAD to explain the direction of the forum. but now that you ask, i guess Revolver gave a very approximate definition to what i think. the admis here think PID or PWR and so i guess the forum is headed in that direction. the reason why we "welcome" skeptics is because we don't want and never wanted to exclude anyone. and we can still talk about music and other stuff, having fun together, besides the PID/PIA discussion. and like LarryC said somewhere, because besides being on one side or the other, we're people, and yes, it is possible to "be friends" even if you don't agree with the other person's opinion. this is nothing personal, you know? at least, not for me. why can't we discuss in a friendly way, about whatever? not only PID/PIA, i mean WHATEVER. and about the banning. i KNOW we have never banned anyone. the 2 people that appear on white have left THEMSELVES. and this should be VERY CLEAR. noone banned them from here, they left on their on will. and i must say it's perfectly ok if people want to leave because 1) it's no good if you're somewhere you don't like, and 2) there's no point in being in a PID forum to try to convince people PIA if that is not in the discussion. and this is JMO.
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Post by SimMHoward on Mar 10, 2004 18:59:15 GMT -5
I knew that you never banned anyone, I was referring to what 60IF did a while back when I said that, consider it my way of warning you not to resemble those you have escaped from
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Post by lj on Mar 10, 2004 19:02:41 GMT -5
ok. well, i think it's obvious i never agreed with what the 60nuts have done in the past. and i think we all know part of the beginning of the end for 60if started when some people there decided to attach the ban button to their finger. they banned almost everybody, even people that hardly ever said a thing.
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Post by lj on Mar 10, 2004 19:06:34 GMT -5
and i think it's also clear that we don't want to repeat 60if... especially me in this case, who personally think the only mention of it looks like an insult. and i know it's me putting the intention there, but i can't help it. i don't want even to mention it. sorry.
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Post by DarkHorse on Mar 10, 2004 19:27:17 GMT -5
If I understand the purpose of this forum correctly (and it's very possible I don't) it's not to debate whether Paul was replaced, just how and why. PIAers are welcome here as long as they don't try to convince anyone that Faul is Paul. That topic should be off the table. We don't want to go back to debating PIAers with photo overlays and whatnot. The overlays are just a tool to help form an opinion, they wouldn't hold up in a court of law. Many people can see the difference better with side-by-side photos. (The above is just my opinion, it may not reflect that of the forum admins.) That is exactly correct!
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Post by JoJo on Mar 10, 2004 19:37:06 GMT -5
I don't believe any of us have done any photo fades (the mods) here, we did (I did anyway) in the past, but yes you are correct, it's not much use, for reasons that have been discussed at great length. The only fades posted here have been by those who want to show how they aren't useful. We get it... As for the other thing, no I'd say it's safe to say to the best of my knowledge, none of us have spent a penny on anything that person suggested we buy.
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Post by eyesbleed on Mar 10, 2004 20:53:41 GMT -5
I don't get the jab at Darkhorse either LJ. I wonder what that line was that was supposed to have been crossed. I can't find anything overly hostile. But I do know it can get annoying when an overly persistant PIA-er starts arguing with everything... in every thread. That stuff can get old very fast. As far as the direction.... looks like Revolver saved me some typing. And as far as fades go, they are fun & interesting, but I've preferred using stills over fades for a while now.
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