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Post by Morph on Aug 30, 2004 21:24:57 GMT -5
I did a search, both here and elsewhere, but didn't come across this...sorry if it's already a known clue, but...
In the Strawberry Fields video, Faul is standing alone during the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th "...nothing is real..." line. It just jumped out at me.
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Post by revolver on Aug 30, 2004 22:05:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I noticed that too. I think that's why John wrote that lyric in the first place. It was his way of dealing with the non-reality of the whole masquerade.
Another in-your-face example was in Anthology where they show Paul looking at the camera in slow motion while they played his verse from "For No One" - "she knew someone but now he's gone." Then he quickly looked down. That was the transition between the last Beatles tour and the Sgt. Pepper era.
They keep putting the clues out there, but no one seems to notice. Everything is hidden in plain sight.
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Post by LarryC on Aug 31, 2004 0:39:57 GMT -5
Do you think these are really clues revolver? I mean, Paul actually sang For No One so it would only be fitting to have his image in copious places throughout the video, even during the line you point to here...he DID sing it. What is the difference between a clue and happenstance? Or looking for clues or being on a witch hunt? Just as an experiment, how about we shift from PWR to RWR and see how many Ringo clues we come across like this? Or any of the others for that matter.
I have not looked at the Strawberry Fields video lately so I don't recall many of the details, but one question I would have to ask is what is in the frame all the other times the words 'nothing is real' are being said? Just curious...guess I'll have to go put it on and watch the darn thing now...;D
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Post by matchbox on Aug 31, 2004 1:02:54 GMT -5
Actually, Paul was the only one to survive the 60's. The PID hoax was just the smokescreen to coverup the real story.
1963:
On the front cover of _With the Beatles_, Ringo's face is not in line with those of the other Fabs. Clearly a clue that the "Ringo" on this album is different form the others: obviously, he had died between the first two albums and been replaced.
1964:
On the cover of _A Hard Day's Night_, George is the only Beatles with his back to the camera in any of the photos, and he's the only one with a cigarette ("a coffin nail"). These are the signals that George had died.
On the _Long Tall Sally_ EP, George wears a different style of coat than the other three, again indicating that he's different, having been replaced. (Technically, George and Ringo both should be shown as different, but presumably whoever is in charge of planting the clues [Paul? John? EMI? Spiritual entities?] decided that having George and Ringo in one style of coat and Paul and John in a second style would make it difficult to figure out just which pair of Beatles is supposed to be gone. Therefore, for these two records they concnetrated on announcing the most recent death).
On the _Beatles for Sale_ LP, the Beatles all wear black, and the record includes the song "Baby's in Black." Black of course is a traditional color of mourning--just the state you'd expect Paul and John to be in after the deaths of two of their comrades.
1965:
On the cover of the _Nowhere Man_ EP, Ringo is sitting on a stone monument, obviously meant to symbolize his tombstone. (Apparently the 'forces' deciding what clues to drop decided to give Ringo a new clue so he'd be even with George).
On the cover of the _Help!_ album, the Beatles are holding their hands in semaphore positions. However, instead of spelling out "help" as one would rightly expect, they spell out "NUJV." This is an abbreviation for "New unknown John vocalist," indicating that John had died and been replaced. And since the odds of the Beatles just 'coincidentally' picking four letters that match that phrase must be millions to one, this MUST be a planned clue. On this album, the Beatles (what's left of them, that is) stopped indicating a member's death by showing him as different than the others. Indeed, since Paul was now the only non-replacement in the band, *he* was shown as the different one (ie, with his back to the camera on the back cover of _Sgt Pepper_) to indicate that he was alive. That this would later be interpreted as evidence of Paul's demise must have been a crushing irony to the one remaining original Beatle.
In "I'm Looking through You," (from _Rubber Soul_), Paul sings "You don't look different, but you have changed"--a reference to the three replacements he had to surround himself with.
1966:
On _Revolver_, John#2 sings the song "I'm Only Sleeping." Sleep is, of course, a metaphor for death (cf Hamlet's "Too sleep, perchance to dream" soliloquy).
Also from Revolver, in "She Said She Said" John#2 sings "I know what it's like to be dead," which the original John did indeed know by now.
In "Eleanor Rigby," Paul sings "Father McKenzie/ wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave/No one was saved." 'Father McKenzie' is obviously a metaphorical reference to Paul McCartney (after all, what are the odds that Paul would by mere coincidence come up with a character whose last name begins with 'Mc' just like his own?!), who had far too often walked from the graves of his fellow band members. And indeed none of the other Beatles had been 'saved' from death.
1967:
In "Strawberry Fields," John#2 says "I buried Paul." At first, this may suggest that Paul had joined the other three Bealtes in dying. However, earlier John#2 sings "Nothing is real," which shows that his latter comment is not a 'real' clue, but rather a red herring to throw the unwary off of the real trail.
On the _Sgt. Pepper_ album, the Beatles introduce Billy Shears to replace Ringo#2 (that is the original Ringo's replacement) who is the real victim of the November 1966 car crash that figures so prominently in the "Paul Is Dead" theory. How anyone ever thought that Billy Shears was Paul's replacement is hard to fathom. After all, the next song following the "Let me introduce to you the one and only Billy Shears" bit is sung by 'Ringo'. And 'Ringo' would provide further confirmation in 1973's "I'm the Greatest" when he admits "My name is Billy Shears/It has been for so many years." In the face of this evidence, the thought that Billy Shears could be Paul's replacement seems faintly ridiculous.
Furthermore, it's well known that "A Day in the Life" describes the famed November 1966 car crash. However, everyone seems to have overlooked an obvious clue as to the victim of the car crash planted within "A Day in the Life": the ringing alarm clock!! Why would the Beatles include something that was 'ring'-ing unless it was to show that the song is about 'Ring'-o?!?
A similar identity-clue hidden within a death-clue appears on the front cover of the _Magical Mystery Tour_ album. When the album is held upside down, the word 'Beatles' spells out the phone number of a London mortuary. However, the word 'Bealtes' is spelled out in stars--as in Ringo STARR! If the Beatles had really meant to indicate where Paul's body had been (as the "Paul is dead" theory insists), why would they use the one common symbol that was also a band memeber's last name? Obviously, this couldn't be a mere coincidence.
Also, one more clue from _Sgt. Pepper_ needs to be discussed. On the front cover, someone holds a hand over Paul's head. This clearly mimics the actions of a priest in blessing the living--and Paul could certainly consider himself as blessed, as he was the only Beatle fate had spared.
The front cover of the _Magical Mystery Tour_ album features one other clue. The titles of "Magical Mystery Tour", "The Fool on the Hill" and "Your Mother Should Know" are arranged as follows:
Magical...
...On The...
...Should...
Going counter-clockwise from the 'M', the capital letters spell out 'MOST' which is meant to indicate that MOST of the Beatles had died and been replaced. (After all, the odds of the capitals in a bunch of song titles coincidentally spelling out such a word must be millions to one).
Also, on the inside cover of _MMT_, reference is made to "four or five magicians"--an allusion to the four replacements, plus Paul who serves as 5th magician--the 'magic' being the ability to keep the Beatles going despite the secret deaths of three members.
As for songs: John#2 sings "I Am the Walrus." Walruses are death symbols to Scandinavians. (Or maybe that was Eskimos. Or perhaps Falkland Islanders. I can't quite remember.)
And in 'Hello, Goodbye", Paul sings "I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello," a reference to the original Beatles (and one replacement) dying (Saying "Goodbye") and Paul surviving to say "hello" to their replacements.
1968:
In "Glass Onion," John#2 sings "Here's another clue for you all/The walrus was Paul." However, in this song, as in "Strawberry Fields," John#2 also sings "Nothing is real," thus tipping off the alert listener to the fact that this 'clue' is a mere red herring.
In "I'm So Tired," John#2 sings about cigarettes ("coffin nails").
Furthermore, at the end of "I'm So Tired," John#2 says several nonsense syllables which, when played backwards, become "Paul, I'm dead." However, due to the poor sound quality, many insist mistakenly that it's "Paul is dead." (Much like the people who mistakenly insist on claiming that the words at the end of "Strawberry Fields" are 'cranberry sauce')
[Actually, most Paul Is Dead subscribers think the gibberish says "Paul is a dead man, Miss him, miss him, miss him!" If you listen closely, you can see it actually says "Paul isn't dead, man. We miss him, miss him, miss him!" and is John, speaking from the beyond, for himself and the two other dead Beatles, missing their friend Paul who is still on earth. -- dh]
In "Yer Blues," John#2 sings "If I ain't dead already" in ironic reference to John (that is the real John) indeed being dead already.
1969:
On the cover of _Abbey Road_, a VW has the license plate "281F," which can, of course be read, as '28IF' and denotes that John (born in Oct, 1940) would have been 28 when _Abbey Road_ was released (Sept. 1969) IF he had lived. Also, the use of the "281F" plate is really a clever clue-within-a-clue, since the substitution of '1' for 'I' must have been inspired by the fact that _Abbey Road_ was released only *1* month before John's birthday. Possibly the poignancy of that juxtaposition was what inspired the decision to mention John's age (had he lived) on the cover rather than George's or Ringo's (presumably the decision to not refer to all their ages was motivated by the difficulty in parking three cars so one could read all their license plates).
John#2's song "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" is abruptly cut off, clearly as a metaphor for the real John's life being abruptly cut short back in 1965.
In "Come Together," the line "come together, over me" refers to a burial (where, of course, the mourners 'come together' over the grave). Later in this song, the line "one and one and one is three" indicates that three original Beatles were buried. Why isn't it "1+1+1+1 is four"? Because...
The "I'd like to be under the sea" lines in "Octopus's Garden" indicate that Ringo#2 (that is, the replacement who was replaced by Billy Shears) was buried at sea. Thus, there was no gravesite for others to 'Come Together' over. Therefre, its "1+1+1 is three."
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Post by LarryC on Aug 31, 2004 1:42:43 GMT -5
GAWD! Auntie Em! Uncle Henry! It's A Twister! It's A Twister! Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop taking amphetamines ;D
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Post by Morph on Aug 31, 2004 11:41:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I noticed that too. I think that's why John wrote that lyric in the first place. It was his way of dealing with the non-reality of the whole masquerade. Another in-your-face example was in Anthology where they show Paul looking at the camera in slow motion while they played his verse from "For No One" - "she knew someone but now he's gone." Then he quickly looked down. That was the transition between the last Beatles tour and the Sgt. Pepper era. They keep putting the clues out there, but no one seems to notice. Everything is hidden in plain sight. Hmm, I need to check out Anthology now. I also want a higher res Strawberry Fields video, it's pretty creepy.  edit: drink more coffee before posting... |
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Post by Morph on Aug 31, 2004 12:02:53 GMT -5
Actually, Paul was the only one to survive the 60's. The PID hoax was just the smokescreen to coverup the real story. <snip> That's great, you managed to post a rote "debunk" tactic. The stuff from Pepper and on isn't piecemeal, nor does it require two or three generations of interpretation to make it mean something. Your rambling fiction otoh is just that. |
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Post by matchbox on Aug 31, 2004 12:09:52 GMT -5
It's no more far fetched than the majority of PID clues.
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Post by xpt626 on Aug 31, 2004 15:13:24 GMT -5
It's no more far fetched than the majority of PID clues. what's far-fetched is someone trying to tell me that this is Paul McCartney ;D  |
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Post by jonna on Aug 31, 2004 17:23:46 GMT -5
That's great, you managed to post a rote "debunk" tactic. The stuff from Pepper and on isn't piecemeal, nor does it require two or three generations of interpretation to make it mean something. Your rambling fiction otoh is just that. Morph i know you just joined here so i'm just giving you a friendly warning right now. we respect each others opinions on this forum and sarcastic comments about another persons post is not tolerated. |
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Post by revolver on Aug 31, 2004 20:40:40 GMT -5
Do you think these are really clues revolver? I mean, Paul actually sang For No One so it would only be fitting to have his image in copious places throughout the video, even during the line you point to here...he DID sing it. What is the difference between a clue and happenstance? When I watched Anthology the first time, I wasn't consciously looking for clues. That sequence was one of the few that jumped out at me. One reason is that it was in slow motion, while most of the other clips weren't, if I remember correctly. I believe the synchronicity was an intentional clue and hidden acknowledgement of Paul's death. I suggest you watch it again before ruling it out. |
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Post by LarryC on Aug 31, 2004 22:50:09 GMT -5
I guess I've always seen it as more of a creative image thing in videography...I've helped produced a couple myself and sometimes you use varying speeds not only for variety in visual effect, but you might only want to use a certain portion of a particular clip and it may only be so long so you slow it down a little to fill a given gap in the timeline...this also creates that visual variety effect.
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