Post by FlamingPie on Mar 4, 2004 19:48:49 GMT -5
On the 60IF site, a guy named robby posted an interesting post that I wanted to bring to this forum's attention.
Hi
Read the mother of all clues thread and started to think. Unusual for me lol.
So ok take a look at the album cover ......was trying to think what was different about Paul that has not been mentioned. Now i noticed that he is the only person in blue. The only other bits of blue in the scene are on a hat to the left, the scarf around the neck of the actress next to george and the sky.
I finally sussed out what you have to do to make sense of this. It goes back to many of the songs that have hidden messages. You have to play them in reverse.
So i did that with the album cover. I converted the picture to a negative and......WOW....virtually everything and everyone else turns blue but paul dead center his coat turns red and the sky also.
I think there must be somthing important behind the scarf and the hat which also turn red.
My wife informed me that during the fifties there was an actress by the name of Belinda Lee (we think) who had her head ripped off in a car accident by her scarf, but not sure what the red hat symbolises.
I also started taking a real close look at Yellow submarine after someone posted a thread for clues.
So will post what i found here since the thread has seemed to gone more Illuminate/New world order.
Figures in ( ) are the timeframe when they appear.
These are simply instances of what i think may have relevance some may not.
Clues i saw...
1....The narrator right from the start says "Once upon a time....OR MAYBE TWICE.
2....Then followed by three men at both ends of a rainbow. Then you go through the rainbow to see 3 clouds in the sky.
3....5 birds sat in a bush/tree
4....(00.30) Reference to kite
5....(01.51) Blue meanies reference to number 5.All stood in a row numbered.
6....(02.38) Head Blue meanie holds his hand up showing the devil sign.(this sign is drawn on all characters through out the film even when hands are simply down by they're side's)
7.....(4.10) Glove destroying the word yes. Tke a close look at the word yes and the top half. I can see V E e. Some may say trying to find things not there but i refer you to (29.38) the when i'm 64 section and animations of film.
8......(04.21) Glove shooting at fred.Hits the K in know turning it to now then hits the W which changes it to NO........ KNOW NOW NO.
9......Fred runs and falls to lie at the base of sgt peppers drum. There's somthing to this.
10....(5.39) Fred says to i think it's the mayor.
"Sir sir the blue meanies are coming"
mayor ......"They're not here fred they would'nt dare"
Fred ......."They would they are .What are you going to do.
Mayor......."Finish the quartet"
Blue meanies fire and freeze one of the players.
Fred then says......"Trio sir"
11....(10.05) 3 subs pictured on they're own, then pans up to the yellow sub going off into the darkness and dissapearing.
12....(11.06) beatles start to sing Helena Rigby
13.....(11.19) Yellow sub coming into shot from behind the number 49 grave stone.As if rising from the grave.(this makes me think that this one clue is the meaning behind the whole film.Got to think about how to put it in words before i try to explain ....and no i don't mean paul coming back to life...lol
14.....Man smoking pipe. By his head at the top to our right you will see a red small patch with what looks like a small face, this was done in free as a bird look for the areas coloured in red and you will see (but look very hard).
15..... Man pointing to corner of screen with "Newsroom" sign above arm.Look carefully at the small area the finger is pointing to and you will see a drawing that looks like a disfigured face(see the face in the back of van window in free as a bird video). You may think that that is going to far but go look at the yellow sub thread before this one and read about how the illuminate hide symbols messages.To me the beatles knew they could'nt put in that frame or any other frame for that matter a clear pic of paul as being dead and a sign clearly stating "Pauls disfigured head taken after car crash" or "Pauls been replaced by a lookalike" .But they knew they could get away with small clues because that is exactly what these establishments loveto do (See the 5 10 20 etc dollar bills).
16.....(13.00) Road signs arrows/ ! /roundabouts/a deer sign/no entry/giveway/deadend.
The arrows guide you through the signs till you get to a ! sign.
then other arrows point you up the camera pans up a building which at the top you see 2 white ovals in the neck of the top of building.In the middle oval you can see 2 faces.
17.....(13.17) Ringo does some strange stuff with hands also notice the devil sign
18....(14.15) Ringo walks into scene whilst being followed by yellow sub the words late of written on wall.
19....(14.26) Policeman on floor
Ringo asks "would you believe me if i said i was being followed by a yellow submarine"
Policemans says "Er ah NO ! No i would not
Ringo replies "I er did'nt think you would"
Policeman looks at camera eyes go to our left and has a large grin on face.
Maybe this is how the beatles felt about simply telling the world about all that had happened "would you believe me if i told you i was being followed by a sub marine". This makes sense if you look upon the sub as a coffin and the death of paul following the band throughout they're live's."NO! no i would not" this could be what they thought the reaction to them coming clean and how they would definately not be believed and even laughed at ridiculed.Which is a normal fear i bet everyone here has felt it when trying to convince someone of this.
20....(15.10) Ringo walks up to a house which has a green door.Fred gets out of yellow suband knocks on door using the words from help! The song green door is relevant here.
Also at ( 15.37) look at top right window ledge then pan your eyes to the corner of the building and if you look really hard you will see a face i think it's ringo hidden in the brickwork of building.Pause film and take time to look it is there.
21......(17.36) Frankenstien. A man brought back to life etc...look to the book/film.
When ringo pulls lever a bolt hits fred (there's somthing about fred) and frankenstien comes to life look at his forehead and you will see a yellow blob (yellow matter custard from the song) He drinks a potion and the lines along his chin highlight (flash green) and also his ears.And he turns into one of the beatles in a flash.Though not paul, john.
22.......(21.45) Paul comes out of room and says "whats the matter fella's Blue meanie's". But no one as yet mentioned anything about Bluemeanies to him i.e Fred has'nt gone mad spouting goobldeegook as he did with other Beatles.
I may be taking this a bit to far. But if you look at the sentence "Whats the matter fella's. Blue meanies"
what if you put it this way "Whats the matter fella's?" answer "Blue meanies" (the establishment/illuminate)
Think of the song and it says "Yellow matter custard dripping from a dead dogs eye" could the dead dogs eye be the all seeing eye in the pyramid (i.e the dollar bill,AOL sign etc etc )
23...... (24.01) 2 pics of paul in same frame
24.......(27.46) Beatles see duplicates of themselves.
25.......(29.38)Written on screen is "Sixty four years is 33,661,440 minutes and one minute (in red) is a long time" then the next scene "Let us demonstrate (o is in red ). Then a count goes from 0 to 64 whilst the song plays.Watch how the figures begin to be drawn into pictures as if being told look out for this.
watch the count and notice it doe'snt end on 64 it ends on 60 which indicates the end of a minute. But a funny figure to point out and here i am on a forum called "60 if". Lol maybe going to far again i think.
26....(31.23) Only a northern song. Pauls head is in red. when the boxs turn to hands notice the hand which would have been johns (i think not sure) moves and points to where paul's box first appears .I think the lines in green are actually sound waves and that maybe this was the beatles saying that the voice is different (listen to the words of song words as well) .Also they are telling you to listen when you see the ears flap out from the side's of the boxs.
27......(33.55) Purple Animal turns up in sub there are only 3 beatles present. Gerge says "He looks wrong he does'nt look at all well in fact he's ugly"
John says "He's so ugly"
All say"Really ugly"
Animal crys a tear
John says "Somebody push a button"
Ringo push's a button a "parp" sounds trap door opens and monster falls away.
28.....(35.12) on screen we see a petrol pump, pyramid, and flowery tie underneath it looks like there is a step pyramid.Symbolism these must be releavant to an occurence.
29.....(35.31)John says "There's a school of whale's they look a bit old for school"
Paul says "university then"
Ringo says"University of wales they look like drop outs to me"
Fred says "You've got to steer clear"
ringo says "steer clear"
Fred says "YES!......STEER....CLEAR!"
I don't know what this means but it just seemed to stick out as if to say steer clear of university of wales....anyone have any ideas. I say it sticks out because when fred repeats "steer clear" he says it with a pause between the two words and it sounds just like someone who really wants you to notice his words.
....Thats as far as i have got will look some more and post rest .
Like i said some of what i see may have no relevance but then to find the 10% worth seeing you got to go through the other 90%.
also could someone pleaaaaseeee tell me how to post pics on the forum.Not sure how need an instruction to follow.When i know how will post the Peppers album in negative.
Anyway all the best
Robbby
So, waddia think?
Hi
Read the mother of all clues thread and started to think. Unusual for me lol.
So ok take a look at the album cover ......was trying to think what was different about Paul that has not been mentioned. Now i noticed that he is the only person in blue. The only other bits of blue in the scene are on a hat to the left, the scarf around the neck of the actress next to george and the sky.
I finally sussed out what you have to do to make sense of this. It goes back to many of the songs that have hidden messages. You have to play them in reverse.
So i did that with the album cover. I converted the picture to a negative and......WOW....virtually everything and everyone else turns blue but paul dead center his coat turns red and the sky also.
I think there must be somthing important behind the scarf and the hat which also turn red.
My wife informed me that during the fifties there was an actress by the name of Belinda Lee (we think) who had her head ripped off in a car accident by her scarf, but not sure what the red hat symbolises.
I also started taking a real close look at Yellow submarine after someone posted a thread for clues.
So will post what i found here since the thread has seemed to gone more Illuminate/New world order.
Figures in ( ) are the timeframe when they appear.
These are simply instances of what i think may have relevance some may not.
Clues i saw...
1....The narrator right from the start says "Once upon a time....OR MAYBE TWICE.
2....Then followed by three men at both ends of a rainbow. Then you go through the rainbow to see 3 clouds in the sky.
3....5 birds sat in a bush/tree
4....(00.30) Reference to kite
5....(01.51) Blue meanies reference to number 5.All stood in a row numbered.
6....(02.38) Head Blue meanie holds his hand up showing the devil sign.(this sign is drawn on all characters through out the film even when hands are simply down by they're side's)
7.....(4.10) Glove destroying the word yes. Tke a close look at the word yes and the top half. I can see V E e. Some may say trying to find things not there but i refer you to (29.38) the when i'm 64 section and animations of film.
8......(04.21) Glove shooting at fred.Hits the K in know turning it to now then hits the W which changes it to NO........ KNOW NOW NO.
9......Fred runs and falls to lie at the base of sgt peppers drum. There's somthing to this.
10....(5.39) Fred says to i think it's the mayor.
"Sir sir the blue meanies are coming"
mayor ......"They're not here fred they would'nt dare"
Fred ......."They would they are .What are you going to do.
Mayor......."Finish the quartet"
Blue meanies fire and freeze one of the players.
Fred then says......"Trio sir"
11....(10.05) 3 subs pictured on they're own, then pans up to the yellow sub going off into the darkness and dissapearing.
12....(11.06) beatles start to sing Helena Rigby
13.....(11.19) Yellow sub coming into shot from behind the number 49 grave stone.As if rising from the grave.(this makes me think that this one clue is the meaning behind the whole film.Got to think about how to put it in words before i try to explain ....and no i don't mean paul coming back to life...lol
14.....Man smoking pipe. By his head at the top to our right you will see a red small patch with what looks like a small face, this was done in free as a bird look for the areas coloured in red and you will see (but look very hard).
15..... Man pointing to corner of screen with "Newsroom" sign above arm.Look carefully at the small area the finger is pointing to and you will see a drawing that looks like a disfigured face(see the face in the back of van window in free as a bird video). You may think that that is going to far but go look at the yellow sub thread before this one and read about how the illuminate hide symbols messages.To me the beatles knew they could'nt put in that frame or any other frame for that matter a clear pic of paul as being dead and a sign clearly stating "Pauls disfigured head taken after car crash" or "Pauls been replaced by a lookalike" .But they knew they could get away with small clues because that is exactly what these establishments loveto do (See the 5 10 20 etc dollar bills).
16.....(13.00) Road signs arrows/ ! /roundabouts/a deer sign/no entry/giveway/deadend.
The arrows guide you through the signs till you get to a ! sign.
then other arrows point you up the camera pans up a building which at the top you see 2 white ovals in the neck of the top of building.In the middle oval you can see 2 faces.
17.....(13.17) Ringo does some strange stuff with hands also notice the devil sign
18....(14.15) Ringo walks into scene whilst being followed by yellow sub the words late of written on wall.
19....(14.26) Policeman on floor
Ringo asks "would you believe me if i said i was being followed by a yellow submarine"
Policemans says "Er ah NO ! No i would not
Ringo replies "I er did'nt think you would"
Policeman looks at camera eyes go to our left and has a large grin on face.
Maybe this is how the beatles felt about simply telling the world about all that had happened "would you believe me if i told you i was being followed by a sub marine". This makes sense if you look upon the sub as a coffin and the death of paul following the band throughout they're live's."NO! no i would not" this could be what they thought the reaction to them coming clean and how they would definately not be believed and even laughed at ridiculed.Which is a normal fear i bet everyone here has felt it when trying to convince someone of this.
20....(15.10) Ringo walks up to a house which has a green door.Fred gets out of yellow suband knocks on door using the words from help! The song green door is relevant here.
Also at ( 15.37) look at top right window ledge then pan your eyes to the corner of the building and if you look really hard you will see a face i think it's ringo hidden in the brickwork of building.Pause film and take time to look it is there.
21......(17.36) Frankenstien. A man brought back to life etc...look to the book/film.
When ringo pulls lever a bolt hits fred (there's somthing about fred) and frankenstien comes to life look at his forehead and you will see a yellow blob (yellow matter custard from the song) He drinks a potion and the lines along his chin highlight (flash green) and also his ears.And he turns into one of the beatles in a flash.Though not paul, john.
22.......(21.45) Paul comes out of room and says "whats the matter fella's Blue meanie's". But no one as yet mentioned anything about Bluemeanies to him i.e Fred has'nt gone mad spouting goobldeegook as he did with other Beatles.
I may be taking this a bit to far. But if you look at the sentence "Whats the matter fella's. Blue meanies"
what if you put it this way "Whats the matter fella's?" answer "Blue meanies" (the establishment/illuminate)
Think of the song and it says "Yellow matter custard dripping from a dead dogs eye" could the dead dogs eye be the all seeing eye in the pyramid (i.e the dollar bill,AOL sign etc etc )
23...... (24.01) 2 pics of paul in same frame
24.......(27.46) Beatles see duplicates of themselves.
25.......(29.38)Written on screen is "Sixty four years is 33,661,440 minutes and one minute (in red) is a long time" then the next scene "Let us demonstrate (o is in red ). Then a count goes from 0 to 64 whilst the song plays.Watch how the figures begin to be drawn into pictures as if being told look out for this.
watch the count and notice it doe'snt end on 64 it ends on 60 which indicates the end of a minute. But a funny figure to point out and here i am on a forum called "60 if". Lol maybe going to far again i think.
26....(31.23) Only a northern song. Pauls head is in red. when the boxs turn to hands notice the hand which would have been johns (i think not sure) moves and points to where paul's box first appears .I think the lines in green are actually sound waves and that maybe this was the beatles saying that the voice is different (listen to the words of song words as well) .Also they are telling you to listen when you see the ears flap out from the side's of the boxs.
27......(33.55) Purple Animal turns up in sub there are only 3 beatles present. Gerge says "He looks wrong he does'nt look at all well in fact he's ugly"
John says "He's so ugly"
All say"Really ugly"
Animal crys a tear
John says "Somebody push a button"
Ringo push's a button a "parp" sounds trap door opens and monster falls away.
28.....(35.12) on screen we see a petrol pump, pyramid, and flowery tie underneath it looks like there is a step pyramid.Symbolism these must be releavant to an occurence.
29.....(35.31)John says "There's a school of whale's they look a bit old for school"
Paul says "university then"
Ringo says"University of wales they look like drop outs to me"
Fred says "You've got to steer clear"
ringo says "steer clear"
Fred says "YES!......STEER....CLEAR!"
I don't know what this means but it just seemed to stick out as if to say steer clear of university of wales....anyone have any ideas. I say it sticks out because when fred repeats "steer clear" he says it with a pause between the two words and it sounds just like someone who really wants you to notice his words.
....Thats as far as i have got will look some more and post rest .
Like i said some of what i see may have no relevance but then to find the 10% worth seeing you got to go through the other 90%.
also could someone pleaaaaseeee tell me how to post pics on the forum.Not sure how need an instruction to follow.When i know how will post the Peppers album in negative.
Anyway all the best
Robbby
So, waddia think?
