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Post by JoJo on Feb 11, 2006 12:14:02 GMT -5
Ilras sent this to me, and tracked down the lyrics, quite interesting: SONGThe lyrics in French: Il a neigé sur Yesterday
by Marie Laforêt
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Le soir où ils se sont quittés
Le brouillard sur la mer s'est endormi
Et Yellow Submarine fût englouti
Et Jude habite seule, un cottage à Chelsea
John et Paul je crois sont les seuls
A qui elle ait écrit
Le vieux sergent Pepper a perdu ses médailles
Au dernier refrain d'Hello Good Bye
Hello Good Bye
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Le soir où ils nous ont quitté
Penny Lane aujourd'hui a deux enfants
Mais il pleut sur l'île de Wight au printemps.
Eleonor Rigby aux quatre musiciens
Viennent séparement vous voir
Quand ils passent à Dublin
Vous parler de Michèle
La belle des années tendres
De ces mots qui vont si bien ensemble
Si bien ensemble
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Le soir où ils se sont quittés
Penny Lane c'est déjà loin maintenant
Mais jamais elle n'aura de cheveux blancs.
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Cette année là même en été
En cueillant ces fleurs
Lady Madonna a tremblé
Mais ce n'était pas de froid
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Cette année là même en été
En cueillant ces fleurs
Lady Mac Donald a tremblé
Mais ce n'était pas de froid
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Cette année là même en été
En cueillant ces fleurs
Lady Madonna a tremblé
Mais ce n'était pas de froid
Il a neigé sur YesterdayRun through a Systran translator: It snowed on Yesterday
The evening when they were left
The fog on the sea fell asleep
And Yellow Submarine was absorbed
And Jude only lives, a cottage with Chelsea
John and Paul I believe are only
With which it wrote
The old Pepper sergeant lost his medals
With the last refrain of Hello Good Bye
Hello Good Bye
It snowed on Yesterday
The evening when they left us
Penny Lane today has two children
But it rains on the island of Wight in spring.
Eleonor Rigby with the four musicians
Separately come to see you
When they pass to Dublin
You to speak about Michele
The beautiful one of the tender years
Of these words which go so well together
It snowed on Yesterday
The evening when they were left
Penny Lane it is already far now
But never it will not have a white hair.
It snowed on Yesterday
This year there even in summer
By gathering these flowers
Lady Madonna trembled
But it was not cold
It snowed on Yesterday
This year there even in summer
By gathering these flowers
Lady Mac Donald trembled
But it was not cold
It snowed on Yesterday
This year there even in summer
By gathering these flowers
Lady Madonna trembled
But it was not cold
It snowed on Yesterday |
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Post by Doc on Feb 11, 2006 16:10:23 GMT -5
Ilras sent this to me, and tracked down the lyrics, quite interesting: SONGThe lyrics in French: Il a neigé sur Yesterday
by Marie Laforêt
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Le soir où ils se sont quittés
Le brouillard sur la mer s'est endormi
Et Yellow Submarine fût englouti
Et Jude habite seule, un cottage à Chelsea
John et Paul je crois sont les seuls
A qui elle ait écrit
Le vieux sergent Pepper a perdu ses médailles
Au dernier refrain d'Hello Good Bye
Hello Good Bye
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Le soir où ils nous ont quitté
Penny Lane aujourd'hui a deux enfants
Mais il pleut sur l'île de Wight au printemps.
Eleonor Rigby aux quatre musiciens
Viennent séparement vous voir
Quand ils passent à Dublin
Vous parler de Michèle
La belle des années tendres
De ces mots qui vont si bien ensemble
Si bien ensemble
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Le soir où ils se sont quittés
Penny Lane c'est déjà loin maintenant
Mais jamais elle n'aura de cheveux blancs.
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Cette année là même en été
En cueillant ces fleurs
Lady Madonna a tremblé
Mais ce n'était pas de froid
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Cette année là même en été
En cueillant ces fleurs
Lady Mac Donald a tremblé
Mais ce n'était pas de froid
Il a neigé sur Yesterday
Cette année là même en été
En cueillant ces fleurs
Lady Madonna a tremblé
Mais ce n'était pas de froid
Il a neigé sur YesterdayRun through a Systran translator: It snowed on Yesterday
The evening when they were left
The fog on the sea fell asleep
And Yellow Submarine was absorbed
And Jude only lives, a cottage with Chelsea
John and Paul I believe are only
With which it wrote
The old Pepper sergeant lost his medals
With the last refrain of Hello Good Bye
Hello Good Bye
It snowed on Yesterday
The evening when they left us
Penny Lane today has two children
But it rains on the island of Wight in spring.
Eleonor Rigby with the four musicians
Separately come to see you
When they pass to Dublin
You to speak about Michele
The beautiful one of the tender years
Of these words which go so well together
Does it sound like TWO people went away forever? |
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Post by revolver on Feb 11, 2006 21:12:23 GMT -5
Her music career (1960-1970's) intersected with that of the Beatles. Could she be "Michelle" instead of Silvie? This song seems to imply some kind of personal connection to Paul.  |
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Post by JoJo on Feb 11, 2006 22:53:14 GMT -5
Something personal perhaps about:
You to speak about Michele
The beautiful one of the tender years
Of these words which go so well together
This one says CLUE:
The old Pepper sergeant lost his medals
With the last refrain of Hello Good Bye
Hello Good Bye
I guess this makes it obvious that this song post dates Pepper.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 11, 2006 23:34:09 GMT -5
Hmm well.. none of Sylvie's songs (that I know of) approached 'on the nose' as closely as this one, especially linking it with the mention of "Michelle" in the above song: LINK Marie Laforêt
MANCHESTER AND LIVERPOOL
Manchester and Liverpool
I am re-examined strolling along the streets
In the medium of this crowd
Among these thousands of unknown
Manchester and Liverpool
I from went away in all the lost corners
By seeking this beautiful love
That close to you I had known
I love you, I love you
That I like your voice
Who said to me
I love you, I love you
And me I believed in it so much and more
Manchester is of mood sad
Liverpool comes to cry over the sea
I do not know any more if I exist
The white boats fear the winter
Manchester is under the rain
And Liverpool is not found any more
In the fog of today
The love him also was lost
I love you, I love you
I listen to your voice
Who said to me
I love you, I love you
And I will never believe in it againManchester et Liverpool
Je me revois flânant le long des rues
Au milieu de cette foule
Parmi ces milliers d'inconnus
Manchester et Liverpool
Je m'en allais dans tous les coins perdus
En cherchant ce bel amour
Que près de toi j'avais connu
Je t'aime, je t'aime
Que j'aime ta voix qui me disait
Je t'aime, je t'aime
Et moi j'y croyais tant et plus
Manchester est devenu triste
Et Liverpool vient pleurer sur la mer
Je ne sais plus si j'existe
Les bateaux blancs craignent l'hiver
Manchester est sous la pluie
Et Liverpool ne se retrouve plus
Dans la brume d'aujourd'hui
L'amour lui aussi s'est perdu
Je t'aime, je t'aime,
J'écoute ta voix qui me disait
Je t'aime, je t'aime
Et je n'y croirais jamais plus |
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Post by Doc on Feb 12, 2006 1:01:40 GMT -5
Hmm well.. none of Sylvie's songs (that I know of) approached 'on the nose' as closely as this one, especially linking it with the mention of "Michelle" in the above song: LINK Marie Laforêt
MANCHESTER AND LIVERPOOL
Manchester and Liverpool
I am re-examined strolling along the streets
In the medium of this crowd
Among these thousands of unknown
Manchester and Liverpool
I from went away in all the lost corners
By seeking this beautiful love
That close to you I had known
I love you, I love you
That I like your voice
Who said to me
I love you, I love you
And me I believed in it so much and more
Manchester is of mood sad
Liverpool comes to cry over the sea
I do not know any more if I exist
The white boats fear the winter
Manchester is under the rain
And Liverpool is not found any more
In the fog of today
The love him also was lost
I love you, I love you
I listen to your voice
Who said to me
I love you, I love you
And I will never believe in it againIMO, there is no denying a reference to "Michelle", and it does sound like a "Michelle" is answering to the lyrics of the McCartney song. Perhaps Mme. Laforet wrote or sang it bin the stead of someone else. Sylvie's thoughts thru her lips? |
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Post by lili on Feb 12, 2006 12:05:48 GMT -5
The translation is always so choppy < sigh >. Well, the references to The Beatles are unmistakeable. Whether she was given that song to sing by Sylvie, who knows ?
At least these are blatant clues. I sometimes find it hard putting credence in songs written & sung by others.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Feb 12, 2006 15:35:10 GMT -5
Was she around when the real Sylvie was famous, early 1960's?
Or was she a counterpart to Fylvie?
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Post by TotalInformation on Feb 12, 2006 17:40:16 GMT -5
Apparently she was singing "Il a Neige sur Yesterday" as late as 1977. cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4828231652It would be helpful to get release dates for these songs. IANSY is credited to a "Paul Mauriat" as writer. Most of SYLVIE & Johnny's interesting songs were credited to a "Georges Aber."... |
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Post by revolver on Feb 14, 2006 0:32:17 GMT -5
I found this on the French wikipedia:
It snowed on Yesterday (Words Michel Jourdan /Musique Jean-Claude Petit - Tony Rallo ) [ 03' 16 "] P.1977
They describe the song as a tribute to the Beatles. She was born in 1939.
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Post by JoJo on Aug 16, 2006 18:16:18 GMT -5
Tried using my rusty French skills to try to convey the meaning of some of the phrases a little better. Some guesswork involved, a disclaimer..
It snowed on Yesterday
The evening when they left
The fog on the sea slept
And Yellow Submarine was absorbed (or swallowed up)
And only Jude lives in a cottage in Chelsea
John and Paul I believe are the only ones
about which it is written
Old Sergeant Pepper lost his medals
With the last refrain of Hello Good Bye
Hello Good Bye
It snowed on Yesterday
The evening when they left us
Penny Lane today has two children
But it rains on the island of Wight in the spring.
Eleonor Rigby with the four musicians
Came separately to see you
When they pass to Dublin
You speak of Michele
The beautiful one of tender years
Of these words which go so well together
So well together
It snowed on Yesterday
The evening when they left
Penny Lane it is already far away now
But she will never have a white hair.
It snowed on Yesterday
This year even in summer
By gathering these flowers
Lady Madonna trembled
But it was not cold
It snowed on Yesterday
This year even in summer
By gathering these flowers
Lady Mac Donald trembled
But it was not cold
It snowed on Yesterday
This year even in summer
By gathering these flowers
Lady Madonna trembled
But it was not cold
It snowed on Yesterday
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 16, 2006 21:56:05 GMT -5
A dirge to the late Paul & Sylvie(aka Michelle) who met their end in southern France.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Aug 17, 2006 7:47:26 GMT -5
IANSY is credited to a "Paul Mauriat" as writer. Most of SYLVIE & Johnny's interesting songs were credited to a "Georges Aber."... Didn't the Paul Mauriat orchestra do the song "Love Is Blue" that was a hit in the U.S. in about 1968? If so, the title surely is a reference to "the bluebird" Sylvie. It was an instrumental, but later some cheesy lyrics were sung to it by people like Andy Williams. If I find them, I'll post. www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1056656/a/Love+Is+Blue.htmHere they are: "Blue, blue, my world is blue, blue is my world now I'm without you Gray, gray, my life is gray, cold is my heart since you went away Red, red, my eyes are red, crying for you alone in my bed Green, green, my jealous heart, I doubted you and now we're apart When we met how the bright sun shone Then love died, now the rainbow is gone Black, black, the nights I've known, longing for you so lost and alone |
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Post by lili on Aug 17, 2006 9:41:33 GMT -5
Reading those lyrics makes my heart hurt. I don't know why. I have no doubt in my mind that Paul & Sylvie were star-crossed lovers. I know that they were driven apart when she was forced to Marry Johnny Hallyday. I have no doubt in my mind that Paul's heart was broken. He tried to recover, but I don't know if he ever did.   |
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Post by fourthousandholes on Aug 17, 2006 10:58:44 GMT -5
I had the same reaction when I read them, Lili.
They didn't sound so cornball-y when they weren't being sung by Andy Williams.
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