Non Beatle Lennon-Mc Cartney Songs

[LOVELYRITA]

I started this one particularly to show that JPM style was even given to other artists to sing.

I've seen about World Without Love, sung by Peter and Gordon, but some may not have known that three other JPM/Lennon songs were recorded by Peter and Gordon. "I don't Want To See You Again",
"Nobody I know" and according to The Sixties PleasureZone, one written under a pseudonym called "Woman". I tried to find the lyrics for "Woman", but the site I found the other Two songs was messed up and you hit the title of the Song "I Don't Want To See You Again" and it showed lyrics to another song .

But my point here is that even in the non Beatle compositions recorded by other artists still reflects the style that was unique of JPM. Bill could not duplicate the sound or style no matter how much he may have been able to sound similar enough to fool the masses.

Here are the lyrics of "I Don't Want Te See You Again" and "Nobody I know". Maybe you know these songs, you can tell they are clearly JPM compositions. The lyrics are haunting because it's JPM through and through at that period of their careers.

I Don't Want To See You Again

I hear that love is planned
How can I understand
When someone says to me,
I don't want to see you again?

Why do I cry at night?
Something wrong could be right.
I hear you say to me,
I don't want to see you again.

as you turned your back to me,
You hid the light of day,
Id idn't have to play,
At being broken hearthed

I know that later on,
after love's been and gone,
I'd still hear someone say, "I don't want to see you again.

As you turned your back on me,
'you hid the light of day.
I didn't have to play at being broken hearted.

I hear that love is planned,
how can I understand,
When someone says to me,'I don't want to see you again?
I don't want to see you again.


Nobody I know

Nobody I know could love me more than you,'
You can give me so much love it seems untrue,
Listen to the bird who sings it to the tree,
And then when you've heard him see if you agree,
Nobody I know could love you more than me.

Ev'rywhere I go the sun comes shining through,
Ev'ryone I know is sure it shines for you,
Even in my dreams I look into your eyes,
Suddenly it seems I've found a paradise,
Ev'rywhere I go the sun comes shining through.

It means so much to be a part of a heart of a wonderful one,
When other lovers are gone we'lllive on,
We'll live on.

Even in my dreams I look into your eyes,
Suddenly it seems I've found a paradise,
Ev'rywhere I go the sun comes shining through,

Nobody I know could love me more than you,
'You can give me such love it seems utnrue,
Listen to the bird who sings it to the tree,
And thenwhen you've heard him see if you agree,
Nobody I know could love you more than me
Nobody I know could love you more than me

If you are familiar with Peter and Gordon music, you can probably hear their harmony.

I had forgotten about "Nobody I Know" but I heard it on an oldies' station that plays really old songs, and this came on. It was a reminder that JPM's talent was clearly unique and not able to be duplicated. Something that was not found after 1967. Even in Bill's best attempts, it just wasn't the same music.

I wonder if there was someone special who inspired these songs? Alot of what they wrote came from their hearts.
World Without Love was a heartfelt song.

I also remember Bad To Me that was recorded by Billy J. Kramer...

Interesting that alot of the songs that were recorded by other artists were about love or love gone wrong.

How Do You Do It by Gerry and the Pacemakers come to mind...

[lili]

Those songs are definitely JPM's style. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul was inspired by a past love.

[plastic paul]

I've never heard any of these songs but here's a few.

I'll be on my way - Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas 1963

Tip of my tongue - Tommy Quickly 1963

Love of the Loved - Cilla Black 1963

Hello little girl - Fourmost 1963

I'll keep you satisfied - Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas 1963

i'm in love - Fourmost 1964

World without love - Peter and Gordon 1964

One and One is two - The Strangers 1964

Like Dreamers do - The Applejacks 1964

It's for you - Cilla Black 1964

From a window - Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas 1964

That means a lot - P J Proby 1965

And of course there's I wanna be your man which John and Paul gave to the Rolling Stones, which i beleive was the first ever song to be played on Top Of The Pops, a British music chart show which ran from 1964 until this year.

[lili]

Ritchie also recorded " I wanna be your man " with The Beatles. Is this the same song that they gave to the Stones ?

[plastic paul]

Yeah I was led to believe that they gave it to the Stones, but recorded it on an album anyway.

[LOVELYRITA]

I remember hearing that they wrote it for the Stones, but recorded it with "Ritchie" and put it on the B side of their album, at least on the US. release Meet the Beatles. It was a strange recording that the Stones had done. Being that I was used to the Beatles' version long before I heard the Stones' version. I think it was on Hot Rocks and fazed cookies, that I heard it. My oldest brother was into the Stones, and My sister was into the Beatles, so I heard both of their stuff as a child.

World Without Love is the only one I remember hearing on that list.
I do recall a couple of those being on Beatle releases, demo versions like Anthology and the BBC recordings.

But some of those other recordings are more "Lennonesque" than JPM. The ones I mentioned were definitely JPM through and through. Bill couldn't create that type of a love song. Bill's stuff seemed more cabaret to me.

Footnote on the Stones doing I Wanna Be Your Man, because of their raunchy image even then, the song seemed more appropriate compared to the Beatles "clean" image.

[Paul Bearer]

Listen to "It's For You" sung by Cilla Black. It's a beautiful haunting song.

[Doc]

skirmisher said:

Listen to "It's For You" sung by Cilla Black. It's a beautiful haunting song.

Thanks for pointing it out. I found an ancient, dusty, youtube version (how I love it) and it is haunting--nice tune, nice chords, build, words etc.

Hey, Lennon and McCartney could write.

[fourthousandholes]

Doc,
Can you post the link? Thanks.

[Doc]

fourthousandholes said:

Doc,
Can you post the link? Thanks.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0F62aw86w

Also, I loved this one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T_XzZSfvio&NR

I LOVE THIS SINGER! THIS GIRL IS FABULOUS!!!!!! What a strong, clear, pure, belt voice.

[plastic paul]

She's quite a star here in England, yet not for her music (although that's what made her a household name), she's more often seen presenting light entertainment shows.

[LOVELYRITA]

I remember an old 8 track tape called "History of British Rock" and they had one of Cilla's called "You're My World".

For some who do not know this, many of those artists that Lennon-McCartney wrote songs for, were part of Epstein's group of artists that he managed. Gerry and the Pacemakers, Billy J. Kramer, Cilla Black were among some of those artists.

[Paul Bearer]

doctorrobert said:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0F62aw86w

Note Paul and John near the bottom of the stairs at the end of the song - the REAL Paul that is.

[lili]

That was really cute ! ;D

[LOVELYRITA]

Though there are fans of Bill's in this forum, his music is not as lyrical as JPM's was.
Not saying that Bill isn't talented, but he seemed more like a lounge performer, or cabaret type than JPM. JPM could sing a ballad and he could belt a rocking sound. But his lyrics were more creative and heartfelt. Bill's were catchy, but they don't have the depth or soul that JPM's had.

He would not have been able to carry it for 40 years if he didn't have something infectious about his music, but it doesn't have that ooomph that was unique to JPM.

[lili]

I agree, Rita. Paul sure did have a way with the words.