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Post by B on May 14, 2008 18:01:23 GMT -5
for what it's worth:  Dave Davies (The Kinks): Death of a Clown [stereo] (interesting graphic - a female double. Just like LOLA) www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQXSgCug9NMMy makeup is dry and it clags on my chin Im drowning my sorrows in whisky and gin The lion tamers whip doesnt crack anymore The lions they wont fight and the tigers wont roar La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la So lets all drink to the death of a clown Wont someone help me to break up this crown Lets all drink to the death of a clown Lets all drink to the death of a clown The old fortune teller lies dead on the floor Nobody needs fortunes told anymore The trainer of insects is crouched on his knees ("Beatles")And frantically looking for runaway fleas (cough)La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la Lets all drink to the death of a clown So wont someone help me to break up this crown Lets all drink to the death of a clown La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la Lets all drink to the death of a clown La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la
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Post by iameye on May 14, 2008 19:08:29 GMT -5
I like that you are getting the susanna reference, finally, See B? Not that hard, is it?
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Post by paulumbo on May 15, 2008 18:01:47 GMT -5
I heard SUSANNAH'S STILL ALIVE on THE KINK KRONIKLES cd and Dave Davies (I thought it was Ray Davies, sorry) sounds alot more like Faul there than on the YouTube video. Onward.... There are 3 other songs in George Harrison's , I, ME, MINE book that I think may be directed toward Paul. The first is BE HERE NOW. The lyrics are:
Remember, Now, Be Here Now
As it's not like it was before.
The past, was, Be Here Now
As it's not like it was before--it was
Why try to live a life,
that isn't real,
no how
A mind that wants to wander / FIXING A HOLE reference?
'round a corner /
is an un-wise mind.
Now Is, Here Now,
and it's not what it was before,
Remember, Now, Be Here, Now
as it's not like it was before--it was.
That was written in 1971.
Then... There's CRACKERBOX PALACE, written by George in 1976 and IF YOU BELIEVE, written in 1978. I'll go into those tomorrow.
And just a little explanation here. I am tech-unsavvy and I'll have to learn hyperlinks, uploads, downloads, and all the other pc funhouse stuff, so please be patient.
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Post by JoJo on May 15, 2008 20:17:30 GMT -5
That was written in 1971. Then... There's CRACKERBOX PALACE, written by George in 1976 and IF YOU BELIEVE, written in 1978. I'll go into those tomorrow. If you believe.. What? Sent through time? |
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Post by paulumbo on May 16, 2008 16:25:15 GMT -5
I don't understand your post, JoJo. Please clarify. I'll get back to the CRACKERBOX PALACE reference. But the IF YOU BELIEVE reference is, I believe, the following lines:
You can worry your life away with
Not knowing what each new day may bring to you
Or take each day as it goes on
Wake up to the love that flows on, around you
This is an obvious point back to the WITHIN YOU, WITHOUT YOU line:
...and life flows on within you and without you.
Later on in IF YOU BELIEVE, there are these lines:
Too many troubles you can't control
To get you falling into the holes they dig for you.
George was obviously talking to somebody in this song, and if you think that WITHIN YOU WITHOUT YOU was written to Paul (I do), then I think this song was too.
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Post by paulumbo on May 16, 2008 16:54:59 GMT -5
I found a Hollies' song that I think is important. It was on their 1975 ANOTHER NIGHT album and it's called I'M DOWN (!):
Shook my head out of dreams
Reality's calling
The early bird's been up all morning
But I've got no notion of moving from where I am.
Though my legs won't move
I feel disabled
I'm on a shelf and article labeled
Waiting for someone to fetch me from the lost and found
I'm down no one to hear me calling
I'm down no one to see me falling
I'm down.
Had my ways
With days of sunshine
Life came easy it all fell in line
But then again I didn't realise
When yoou're used to one thing
I't's hard to accept another
Like the woman who brought you up
Well she ain't you mother
How do you cope
With a thing like that
I always thought it was my dad who went to war
Thought it was my sister who fell off the wasll
My pseudo-brother Billy emigrated long ago
Someone went through pain to have me
Someone I should know
I'm down
I'm down.
To the folks who brought me up
I'm not ungrateful
Kept the secret from me
They thought it was shameful
It hurt me so
To be the last to know
Maybe someone's out there
Looking for me
Left on their own
Couldn't afford to clothe me
And I I don't even know my real name
I'm down
I'm down
I'm down.
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I'm thinking this could be about Paul, his brother, or both of them. Whaddya think?
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Post by paulumbo on May 16, 2008 16:57:05 GMT -5
Small correction. The line reads: Thought it was my sister who fell off the wall.
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Post by JoJo on May 16, 2008 17:20:24 GMT -5
I don't understand your post, JoJo. Please clarify. Never mind, I didn't understand that "If You Believe" was a song title. I read it to mean "if you believe it (Crackerbox Palace) was written in 1978. (which would be science fiction of course, heh) |
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Post by eyesbleed on May 17, 2008 7:00:24 GMT -5
Another Monkees lyric. From the 1968 album Head.
Circle Sky lyrics
by Michael Nesmith
Circle sky
Telling lies,
Here I stand
At demand.
'Cause it looks like we've made it once again,
Yes, it looks like we've made it once again.
Color sound
Is all around,
Wing tip smile
Sees for miles.
And it looks like we've made it once again,
Yes, it looks like we've made it once again.
It's a very extraordinary scene
To those who don't understand,
But, what you have seen you must believe,
If you can, if you can.
Hamilton
Smiling down,
Telling more
Than before.
'Cause it looks like we've made it once again,
Yes, it looks like we've made it to the end.
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Post by B on May 17, 2008 22:40:22 GMT -5
Song mentioned in Paulombo's post above: The Hollies I'm Downwww.youtube.com/watch?v=rdPcQ4cUC30Very interesting lyrics, Paulombo! These jump out at me:"Though my legs won't move
I feel disabled"In the "American Dream" video by Crosby Stills Nash and Young, the Paul McCartney character is in a wheel chair. "Thought it was my sister who fell off the wall
My pseudo-brother Billy emigrated long ago" (to the USSR?)  (Someone's 'sister' about to fall off the wall?) "Like the woman who brought you up
Well she ain't you mother....
I always thought it was my dad who went to war"
Possible connections: He was the egg man/"My Mummy's Dead"/ Lily the victim of the Beast Iameye wrote: "I like that you are getting the susanna reference, finally, See B? Not that hard, is it? "But is a cigar sometimes just a cigar: The Hollies - Sorry Suzannewww.youtube.com/watch?v=0nyWp96p4xkOR, is a cigar some times something more?: Hollies - He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brotherwww.youtube.com/watch?v=e7HPqi5uVeoNeil Diamond The road is long
With many a winding turn (the long and winding road)
That leads us to who knows where?
Who knows where
But I'm strong
Strong enough to carry him
He ain't heavy, he's my brother
So on we go
His welfare is of my concern
No burden is he, to bear
We'll get there
For I know
He would not encumber me
He ain't heavy, he's my brother
If I'm laden at all
I'm laden with sadness
That everyone's heart
Isn't filled with the gladness
Of love for one another
It's a long, long road
From which there is no return
While we're on our way to there
Why not share
And the load
Doesn't weigh me down at all
He ain't heavy, he's my brother
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
Of course, you'd think I'd have picked up on this sooner: The Byrds - Oh! Susannah  www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDPBxetFUZgD'Oh! Suzannah. |
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Post by iameye on May 17, 2008 23:28:48 GMT -5
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Post by B on May 18, 2008 0:15:19 GMT -5
The Monkees - HEAD (Circle Sky)www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Nd10jeNmU"but what you have seen, you must believe
if you can
if you can
Hamilton
smiling down
telling more
than before
and it looks weve made it once again
and it looks weve made it to the end!"Interesting contrast between: "what you have seen, you must believe
if you can"and the song lyrics in the latest video from Josh Blue in the RA thread: "Do you believe
In what you see?
Motionless wheel.
Nothing is real
Wasting my time
In the waiting line
Do you believe in
What you see?" from the song "In The Waiting Line" by Zero 7 Watching that clip, I can see reasons why you might have posted the song, Eyesbleed. The double imagery, reflecting, is very, dare I say, Zodiak-esque? And there's the suggestion of two sets of Monkees. The originals, and the ones who "made it once again" (like the first ones had). Hmmm. You must believe! !eveileb tsum uoY I'd be interested in any comments from you regarding the song, EB. Hamilton is a town in Ontario, isn't it? ----------------------------------------------- Could this tie-in somehow? Helpless (Neil Young) www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YOo1XqKBJgThere is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Leave us Helpless, helpless, helpless Baby can you hear me now? The chains are locked and tied across the door, Baby, sing with me somehow. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes. Leave us Helpless, helpless, helpless. ------------possibly tied to------------------- Helplessly Hoping www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArczUVXrODQ  There's something going on there, but I don't quite know what it is. Still... "they are three together". One and one and one is... |
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Post by FAUllibLE on May 18, 2008 22:36:36 GMT -5
Hall and Oats Out of Touch www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UDm48ImL9wA song from Paul to FaulShake it up is all that we know (Twist and Shout)Using the bodies up as we go (Faul supposedly channeling Paul)Waking up to fantasy (Faul living the dream)The shades all around aren't the colors we used to see (signifying change)Broken ice still melts in the sun (something is real and symbolic sun worship)And times that are broken can often be one again
We're soul alone
And soul really matters to me
Take a look around(alluding to Faul channeling Paul's spirit)You're out of touch I'm out of time But I'm out of my head when you're not around (chorus= out of touch and not around because Faul rejects Paul and wants to be his own man)Reaching out for something to hold Looking for a love where the climate is cold (Faul apologizes for this in "This One")Manic moves and drowsy dreams Or living in the middle between the two extremes Smoking guns hot to the touch (Clues)Would cool down if we didn't use them so much We're soul alone And soul really matters to me Too much  Daryle is in "the know"  The smoking gun or clues hand sign  Now it has been exposed as to why Faul McCartney is constantly doing the "Smoking Gun" hand sign Also notice at the beginning of the video the drum head rolls them over and then they become cardboard cutouts. |
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Post by Doc on May 19, 2008 1:11:09 GMT -5
Hall and Oats Out of Touch www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UDm48ImL9wA song from Paul to FaulShake it up is all that we know (Twist and Shout)Using the bodies up as we go (Faul supposedly channeling Paul)Waking up to fantasy (Faul living the dream)The shades all around aren't the colors we used to see (signifying change)Broken ice still melts in the sun (symbolic sun worship)And times that are broken can often be one again
We're soul alone
And soul really matters to me
Take a look around(alluding to Faul channeling Paul's spirit)You're out of touch I'm out of time But I'm out of my head when you're not around (chorus= Faul rejects Paul and wants to be his own man)Reaching out for something to hold Looking for a love where the climate is cold (Faul apologizes in "This One")Manic moves and drowsy dreams Or living in the middle between the two extremes Smoking guns hot to the touch (Clues)Would cool down if we didn't use them so much We're soul alone And soul really matters to me Too much Daryle is in "the know" The smoking gun or clues hand sign Now he has been exposed as to why Faul McCartney is constantly doing the "Smoking Gun" hand sign Also notice at the beginning of the video the drum head rolls them over and then they become cardboard cutouts. One of my favorite songs they ever did. Loved that period of their music. Bang loud and carry and a big pair of sticks. You may have something, here. Well, they had their "smoking gun". Hmm. One of those media catch words. Kind of like Rush Limbaugh, who recently took claim for "letting loose" something he called "Operation Chaos." Maybe the Apple folks have a little game (in order to stay somewhat sane) called, "Operation Klues." Well, let's all be on the lookout for this style of hand signal for a while. I am not sure if Sir Paul's left hand on hip is supposed to tell us anything like, ev'rybody do the hokey-pokey, or, he thinks Sun King is some kind of a closet case, or, maybe "You be a sassy mamma, Ellen DeGeneres". I just don't know. He may be coaching his audience in the nuances of "The Time Warp." I get a the idea that Sir Paul just NEEDS to dance, sometimes. If these are coded messages for James Paul, gosh, that will take better minds than mine for the delving. Is it possible that Neil left a wish list, or specific instructions, consisting of bits and pieces to be shared with us after his premature passing? We'll have to hunt Sir Paul's concert footage since, say, 2003 for archetypical, broad, symbolic gesturing. It could get overly detailed. He does not stand still much. |
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Post by B on May 19, 2008 20:50:14 GMT -5
Hall and Oats wrote:
"Broken ice still melts in the sun"
Just ten more days to get your arses out to Chicago and meet and greet StevenChrist
under the moon shadow! (Watch the ice!)
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Post by malus on May 21, 2008 8:24:19 GMT -5
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Post by paulumbo on May 22, 2008 17:36:07 GMT -5
There's another Hollies song that is interesting. It is from their THE VERY BEST OF THE HOLLIES album released in 1975 and it is called HEY, WILLY:
Hey Willy, your mother calls you Billy
Your father calls you silly
But you really are a pretty one.
Hey baby you're dressing like a lady
The fellows call you Sadie [!]
But you really are a pretty one.
You don't care
What they say about your hair
'Cause the bad man's smiling
Every time he sees you comin', yeah.
Willy is the singer in a rock 'n' roll band
Every time he shows his face
It's just to put away a grand, oh yeah.
The British groups were obviously making comments in their songs about what was happening with the Beatles and I'll plow through their song lists looking for those messages.
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Post by B on May 22, 2008 19:18:05 GMT -5
Here it is! ;D The Hollies - Hey Willy (1971)www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlO9evhQQ60Good discovery, Paulombo!  Hmmm......Other Songs In The Hollies At Abbey Road 1966-1970 Album : » Hollies, The - All The World Is Love Lyrics » Hollies, The - Blowin' In The Wind Lyrics » Hollies, The - Carrie Anne Lyrics » Hollies, The - Confessions Of A Mind Lyrics » Hollies, The - Dear Eloise Lyrics » Hollies, The - Do The Best You Can Lyrics » Hollies, The - Gasoline Alley Bred Lyrics » Hollies, The - He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother Lyrics » Hollies, The - I Can't Tell The Bottom From The Top Lyrics » Hollies, The - King Midas In Reverse Lyrics » Hollies, The - Listen To Me Lyrics » Hollies, The - Not That Way At All Lyrics » Hollies, The - On A Carousel Lyrics » Hollies, The - Open Up Your Eyes Lyrics » Hollies, The - Pay You Back With Interest Lyrics » Hollies, The - Signs That Will Never Change Lyrics » Hollies, The - Sorry Suzanne Lyrics |
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Post by B on May 23, 2008 18:46:10 GMT -5
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Post by B on May 31, 2008 12:13:44 GMT -5
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Post by B on May 31, 2008 12:28:11 GMT -5
The Hollies -Yes I Will*www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-CjAxAa5oUhistory of The Hollies: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hollies"The Hollies took The Beatles' slot at the Cavern Club. The Beatles had graduated from the club and had been signed to EMI's Parlophone label by producer George Martin. The amount of musical activity in Liverpool and Manchester caused record producers who had previously never ventured very far from London to start looking to the north. One of them was Ron Richards, a staff producer at EMI, who went up to the Cavern in January 1963. What he found was a tiny club that lived up to its reputation and that The Hollies could do more than just wail (Eder, 1996)."* Written by Doris Troy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Troy |
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Post by paulumbo on Jun 10, 2008 15:25:23 GMT -5
I found another PID/PWR song from the Kinks called WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD TIMES GONE?:
Well, lived my life and never stopped to worry 'bout a thing
Opened up and shouted out and never tried to sing
Wondering if I'd done wrong
Will this depression last for long?
Won't you tell me
Where have all the good times gone?
Where have all the good times gone?
Well, once we had an easy ride and always felt the same
Time was on our side and I had everything to gain
Let it be like yesterday
Please let me have happy days
Won't you tell me
Where have all the good times gone?
Where have all the good times gone?
Ma and Pa look back at all the things they used to do.
Didn't have no money and they always told the truth,
Daddy didn't have no toys
And mummy didn't need no boys.
Won't you tell me
Where have all the good times gone?
Where have all the good times gone?
Well, yesterday was such an easy game for you to play
But let's face it things are so much easier today
Guess you need some bringing down
And get your feet back on the ground.
Won't you tell me
Where have all the good times gone?
Where have all the good times gone?
Where have all the good times gone?
Recorded October 23-30, 1965 and first LP it was on was THE KINK KONTROVERSY LP.
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Post by B on Jun 10, 2008 15:42:51 GMT -5
I don't see that as a PID/PWR song Paulombo; it would have been too early, for starters.
Why do you feel that it is?
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Post by paulumbo on Jun 10, 2008 15:48:27 GMT -5
It has references to YESTERDAY and HELP.
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Post by B on Jun 10, 2008 16:05:34 GMT -5
True; "Yesterday, love was such an easy game to play"
compared to:
"Well, yesterday was such an easy game for you to play"
I'd have to say that qualifies. ;D
This is interesting:
"But let's face it, things are so much easier today
Guess you need some bringing down
And get your feet back on the ground."
A suggestion, perhaps, of too much partying and drug indulgence.
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(Someone's 'sister' about to fall off the wall?)
