PID/PWR songs

[B]

iameye wrote:
www.newadvent.org/cathen/08409c.htm

"Returning to Chinon, Joan made her preparations for the campaign.
Instead of the sword the king offered her, she begged that search might be
made for an ancient sword buried, as she averred, behind the altar in the chapel
of Ste-Catherine-de-Fierbois. It was found in the very spot her voices indicated.
There was made for her at the same time a standard bearing the words Jesus,
Maria, with a picture of God the Father, and kneeling angels presenting a fleur-de-lis."

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jarface wrote:
"In the next image we see the middle Shirley Temple with a
little pointy-hatted gnome at her feet. The gnome's face has been airbrushed
with what appears to be a fleur de lis:"



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iameye wrote:
You have the Order wrong



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RAOB
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Apollo C. Vermouth wrote:
"This particular fellow (Crowley hiding behind Shirley Temple) is the member
of the Royal Antediluvian Order of the Buffaloes. (R.A.O.B)

This group is known for the charitable acts they engage in to further the "pursuit of brotherhood."

See reply #4 here to see this image in context.

[iameye]

Jan 3, 2012 14:56:31 GMT -5 B said:

iameye wrote:
www.newadvent.org/cathen/08409c.htm

"Returning to Chinon, Joan made her preparations for the campaign.
Instead of the sword the king offered her, she begged that search might be
made for an ancient sword buried, as she averred, behind the altar in the chapel
of Ste-Catherine-de-Fierbois. It was found in the very spot her voices indicated.
There was made for her at the same time a standard bearing the words Jesus,
Maria, with a picture of God the Father, and kneeling angels presenting a fleur-de-lis."

invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=5758&page=2

jarface wrote:
"In the next image we see the middle Shirley Temple with a
little pointy-hatted gnome at her feet. The gnome's face has been airbrushed
with what appears to be a fleur de lis:"

"The people of Orleans began calling her the Maid of Orleans out of their love for her.

Joan was rewarded by King Charles with a coat of arms. Charles himself drew the design for her coat of arms featuring a sword holding a crown with a fleur-de-lis on each side.

At her trial Joan herself testified that: "In my town they called me Jeannette, and since I came into France I have been called Joan.


it's not complicated

[iameye]

check











checkmate




From the Heart, to the forehead ...with Wings





KING ME!




lol

[B]

obligatory mention

Jack Jones - A day in the life of a fool
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvLIlqKJ0eI


Not a song about PID, but a possible inspiration for the title of the song on the Sgt Pepper album.

[Paul Bearer]

I suppose you've heard of The Cowsills. They are the band that inspired the TV show The Partridge Family.

Would you belive - even The Cowsills appears to have left PID clues.

Mister Flynn
Wearing a crinkled coverall
Waiting by the backstage door
We're standing in the rain
You won't let us in
Until it's time for the show to begin

Up at sunrise ... travelled far
Just to be here early
But we're still sitting in the car
Let us in oh surely
We always like to set up early

We all know you Mister Flynn
Yes, we know you
We've met your frown in every town
No matter where we've been

We asked around and what we found
Made us all feel badly
We understand you had a band
But it ended sadly
You've entertained for many years
But you never made it
Did you really try?
And now you're holding back the tears
Totally frustrated
And now you're trying hard to hate it
But we know you Mister Flynn
But, we know you

We understand and sympathize
With the state of mind you're in
We all know you Mister Flynn
We all know you Mister Flynn
We all know you Mister Flynn

Dooo

[Paul Bearer]

Another one by The Cowsills.

Captain Sad and His Ship of Fools

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la,
La, la, la, la, la, la, la.

You know every naughty lyric,
To every bawdy tune.
I understand you've really been around.
And everybody loves you,
'Cause you take them to the moon.
How is it you can't make it on the ground?

You're Captain Sad on the ship of fools,
I think you should look down.
'Cause your paper ship is soon to run aground.

Now you've traveled around the world,
And collected all the flags.
But the Rand-McNally globe is all you've seen.
And you ramble on for hours,
About the stickers on your bag,
Describing places that you've never been.

You're Captain Sad on the ship of fools,
I think you should look down.
'Cause your paper ship is soon to run aground.

Now everybody's wishing,
They could all be just like you,
They'd sell their souls to do the things you've done.
And they love to hear the stories,
Of the two wars you've been through,
But you know you never fought in either one.

You're Captain Sad on the ship of fools,
I think you should look down.
'Cause your paper ship is soon to run aground.

Clips of this and other songs:

[B]

Dead Flowers - The Rolling Stones
www.youtube.com/watch?v=osoeMtSbxtU


"Well when you're sitting there in your silk upholstered chair



Talkin' to some rich folk that you know
Well I hope you won't see me in my ragged company
Well, you know I could never be alone

Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the queen of the underground
And you can send me dead flowers every morning
Send me dead flowers by the mail
Send me dead flowers to my wedding
And I won't forget to put roses on your grave

Well when you're sitting back in your rose pink Cadillac
Making bets on Kentucky Derby Day
Ah, I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon
And another girl to take my pain away

Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the queen of the underground
And you can send me dead flowers every morning
Send me dead flowers by the mail
Send me dead flowers to my wedding
And I won't forget to put roses on your grave"

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I'm suspecting that this is a PID song, even though it is a little obtuse.

I see it as a dig at Faul, by Mick Jagger.

"Susie" would be "Susanna"/Lily/ beheaded saint
who somehow relates to Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne" who is "half crazy".

Hmmm. This is hard to put in words. Let's try this:

You have Paul (Osiris) who was murdered. Cut into 13 pieces, his body is restored,
and re-animated by Isis, who had been his wife.
Osiris comes back as Horus (Faul), but still guided by the spirit of dead Paul, and animated by Isis.

Isis would be comparable to iameye, who seems to claim she is the female Paul McCartney.
She (Isis) is the life force animating Faul.
You notice that Faul parties in the basement ("the underground") in his "Dance Tonight" video.

"The Underground" is the world of the dead. The flowers from "Susie" in the song are "dead flowers".
Faul would be the one sitting in a "silk upholstered chair talkin' to some rich folk that you know",
or it could be Paul in the underground, speaking to rich folk who have died, but that seems
unlikely, given the earthly scenarios in the lyrics.

Mick sings, "I know you think you're the queen of the underground".
Isis - the female aspect of Paul which animates Faul - is the queen, in the world of the dead,
(be it heaven or hell).

"Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the queen of the underground"

is a dare from "the devil", Jagger, taunting 'the holy' Isis, to disempower him as he hangs
out with prostitutes and shooting up heroin.

Jagger could very well be in the role of Seth, the one who butchered Osiris in the first place.
He's mocking Isis (Susie) upon whose grave he won't forget to (mockingly) leave flowers.
He's alive in the physical plane, while Isis and Osiris are abiding in the world of the afterlife;
the world of "the dead". The grave upon whose flowers are being thrown is the grave of
Paul/Osiris, and by extension, Isis, who also abides in the world of the dead.

In the Egyptian way of thinking, the world of "the living" is the world of the afterlife,
while life on Earth is the "world of the dead". Seth (Jagger) is partying down in the world
of the dead, throwing flowers on the grave of the one who was 'killed' (Paul), who was
Osiris, the husband of Isis.

Maybe you could say that Isis is the Yoko of Osiris (Paul), in that she keeps the memory
of Paul alive in the same way that Yoko keeps John's memory alive.
Isis is Susanna who is "half crazy" because she is the life of Faul.

So there ya have it! Clear as mud!

Jagger is taunting Faul, the second coming of Paul, daring him to "take me down".
(Of course, this would be in 1971.) The devil figure is daring the Christ figure to disempower
him in the kingdom over which he rules, the physical plane; the world of "the dead"
in terms of Egyptian theology. "The pain" that the devil is feeling, having been evicted from
the world of the living (the 'world' of the afterlife), necessitates his use of girls and drugs.
The devil, Jagger, is saying, "If you want to take away my kingdom, the world of 'the dead'
(the physical world), you'll have to take me down first. In my world, you are the one that is dead."

[seasaltcaramel]

Feb 29, 2012 12:43:39 GMT -5 B said:

Dead Flowers - The Rolling Stones
www.youtube.com/watch?v=osoeMtSbxtU


"Well when you're sitting there in your silk upholstered chair



Talkin' to some rich folk that you know
Well I hope you won't see me in my ragged company
Well, you know I could never be alone

Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the queen of the underground
And you can send me dead flowers every morning
Send me dead flowers by the mail
Send me dead flowers to my wedding
And I won't forget to put roses on your grave

Well when you're sitting back in your rose pink Cadillac
Making bets on Kentucky Derby Day
Ah, I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon
And another girl to take my pain away

Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the queen of the underground
And you can send me dead flowers every morning
Send me dead flowers by the mail
Send me dead flowers to my wedding
And I won't forget to put roses on your grave"

--------------------------------

I'm suspecting that this is a PID song, even though it is a little obtuse.

I see it as a dig at Faul, by Mick Jagger.

"Susie" would be "Susanna"/Lily/ beheaded saint
who somehow relates to Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne" who is "half crazy".

Hmmm. This is hard to put in words. Let's try this:

You have Paul (Osiris) who was murdered. Cut into 13 pieces, his body is restored,
and re-animated by Isis, who had been his wife.
Osiris comes back as Horus (Faul), but still guided by the spirit of dead Paul, and animated by Isis.

Isis would be comparable to iameye, who seems to claim she is the female Paul McCartney.
She (Isis) is the life force animating Faul.
You notice that Faul parties in the basement ("the underground") in his "Dance Tonight" video.

"The Underground" is the world of the dead. The flowers from "Susie" in the song are "dead flowers".
Faul would be the one sitting in a "silk upholstered chair talkin' to some rich folk that you know",
or it could be Paul in the underground, speaking to rich folk who have died, but that seems
unlikely, given the earthly scenarios in the lyrics.

Mick sings, "I know you think you're the queen of the underground".
Isis - the female aspect of Paul which animates Faul - is the queen, in the world of the dead,
(be it heaven or hell).

"Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the queen of the underground"

is a dare from "the devil", Jagger, taunting 'the holy' Isis, to disempower him as he hangs
out with prostitutes and shooting up heroin.

Jagger could very well be in the role of Seth, the one who butchered Osiris in the first place.
He's mocking Isis (Susie) upon whose grave he won't forget to (mockingly) leave flowers.
He's alive in the physical plane, while Isis and Osiris are abiding in the world of the afterlife;
the world of "the dead". The grave upon whose flowers are being thrown is the grave of
Paul/Osiris, and by extension, Isis, who also abides in the world of the dead.

In the Egyptian way of thinking, the world of "the living" is the world of the afterlife,
while life on Earth is the "world of the dead". Seth (Jagger) is partying down in the world
of the dead, throwing flowers on the grave of the one who was 'killed' (Paul), who was
Osiris, the husband of Isis.

Maybe you could say that Isis is the Yoko of Osiris (Paul), in that she keeps the memory
of Paul alive in the same way that Yoko keeps John's memory alive.
Isis is Susanna who is "half crazy" because she is the life of Faul.

So there ya have it! Clear as mud!

Jagger is taunting Faul, the second coming of Paul, daring him to "take me down".
(Of course, this would be in 1971.) The devil figure is daring the Christ figure to disempower
him in the kingdom over which he rules, the physical plane; the world of "the dead"
in terms of Egyptian theology. "The pain" that the devil is feeling, having been evicted from
the world of the living (the 'world' of the afterlife), necessitates his use of girls and drugs.
The devil, Jagger, is saying, "If you want to take away my kingdom, the world of 'the dead'
(the physical world), you'll have to take me down first. In my world, you are the one that is dead."

Remember Thoth. In 1968 "gene pitney" released heartbreaker. Its a joke. Its too obvious that its been sped up. The carpenters releasing calling occupants of interplanetary CRAFT. Thurston moore worshipping Karen. Sun ra and Joe meek. A seance in the parlor. The heroine with a thousand faces. La Has.

Gene pitney - Conquistador. Its sped up...

[seasaltcaramel]

I just discovered that carpenters song was actually written by... Klaatu. So weird.

Le Bas j.k. huysman. Iameye is Isis? I wish I could remember the sisters name. Naamah? I don't think so.

[B]

Isis, Sister of Nephthys, Mistress of Magic

www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/isis.html

Nephthys, Sister of Isis, Mistress of the House...

www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/nephthys.html

"Despite being the wife of Set, she was seen as a loyal sister to her other siblings,
helping Isis to gather Osiris' scattered limbs (after Set cut him into pieces),
and helped her revive the dead god. She thus became associated with the dead..."

[seasaltcaramel]

Jan 3, 2012 15:36:11 GMT -5 iameye said:

Jan 3, 2012 14:56:31 GMT -5 B said:

iameye wrote:
www.newadvent.org/cathen/08409c.htm

"Returning to Chinon, Joan made her preparations for the campaign.
Instead of the sword the king offered her, she begged that search might be
made for an ancient sword buried, as she averred, behind the altar in the chapel
of Ste-Catherine-de-Fierbois. It was found in the very spot her voices indicated.
There was made for her at the same time a standard bearing the words Jesus,
Maria, with a picture of God the Father, and kneeling angels presenting a fleur-de-lis."

invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=5758&page=2

jarface wrote:
"In the next image we see the middle Shirley Temple with a
little pointy-hatted gnome at her feet. The gnome's face has been airbrushed
with what appears to be a fleur de lis:"

The main character of la Bas writes an essay on Gilles de Rais


"The people of Orleans began calling her the Maid of Orleans out of their love for her.

Joan was rewarded by King Charles with a coat of arms. Charles himself drew the design for her coat of arms featuring a sword holding a crown with a fleur-de-lis on each side.

At her trial Joan herself testified that: "In my town they called me Jeannette, and since I came into France I have been called Joan.


it's not complicated

[seasaltcaramel]

Feb 29, 2012 15:25:02 GMT -5 B said:

Isis, Sister of Nephthys, Mistress of Magic

www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/isis.html

Nephthys, Sister of Isis, Mistress of the House...

www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/nephthys.html

"Despite being the wife of Set, she was seen as a loyal sister to her other siblings,
helping Isis to gather Osiris' scattered limbs (after Set cut him into pieces),
and helped her revive the dead god. She thus became associated with the dead..."

naamah is the sister of tubalcain. one of three woman mentioned from eve to the deluge. Adah, zillah, naamah. ah.

[B]

www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/isis.html

"...Isis was a winged goddess who represented all that was visible, birth, growth, development and vigour. Having wings, she was a wind goddess (as was her sister). She travelled widely, moaned and cried loud enough to shake the heavens and used her wings to blow life into her husband. The kite was sacred to her, and she could transform herself into this bird at will. She brought the heavenly scent with her through the land, leaving lingering scenes of spices and flowers her wake..."

--------------------------

"Being for the benefit of 'Mr. Kite'" would likely be for the benefit of Osiris (Paul).

The bird who "could sing" could be Isis, as described above.

And Your Bird Can Sing
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XtdQTLL-XU


and she's green!

[iameye]

Feb 29, 2012 15:47:11 GMT -5 B said:

www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/isis.html

"...Isis was a winged goddess who represented all that was visible, birth, growth, development and vigour. Having wings, she was a wind goddess (as was her sister). She travelled widely, moaned and cried loud enough to shake the heavens and used her wings to blow life into her husband. The kite was sacred to her, and she could transform herself into this bird at will. She brought the heavenly scent with her through the land, leaving lingering scenes of spices and flowers her wake..."

--------------------------

"Being for the benefit of 'Mr. Kite'" would likely be for the benefit of Osiris (Paul).

The bird who "could sing" could be Isis, as described above.

And Your Bird Can Sing
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XtdQTLL-XU


and she's green!

yeah, she is.


can we speed this up?

[B]

Sure! Julian nailed it years ago!

Julian Lennon - Now You’re In Heaven
vodpod.com/watch/1351523-julian-lennon-now-youre-in-heaven

See, even if the "offensive" video has vanished from YouTube, it still has managed to
hide itself on the interwebs, and we can see that dictators from the queen to Fidel are
enduring the performance of this boastful dummy, who, in its arrogance, manages to drive away
its would-be audience. One would think that someone with the keys to the kingdom could
do better, especially when bearing what would presumably be a desirable message for the masses.

I wonder if the queen will be abjectly reading about "The Copycat Champs" during
the ceremonies at the Jubilee this year. I guess time will tell.

Let's tune up those vocal chords, shall we?

♫ Mi-Me-ME-ME-ME !♫

Oh gee, did I step on some toes?

Yeah, let's speed this up. I totally agree.
But before we leave, can we at least let the passengers on the bus?

[seasaltcaramel]

Feb 29, 2012 19:57:02 GMT -5 iameye said:

Feb 29, 2012 15:47:11 GMT -5 B said:

www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/isis.html

"...Isis was a winged goddess who represented all that was visible, birth, growth, development and vigour. Having wings, she was a wind goddess (as was her sister). She travelled widely, moaned and cried loud enough to shake the heavens and used her wings to blow life into her husband. The kite was sacred to her, and she could transform herself into this bird at will. She brought the heavenly scent with her through the land, leaving lingering scenes of spices and flowers her wake..."

--------------------------

"Being for the benefit of 'Mr. Kite'" would likely be for the benefit of Osiris (Paul).

The bird who "could sing" could be Isis, as described above.

And Your Bird Can Sing
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XtdQTLL-XU


and she's green!

yeah, she is.


can we speed this up?

to every thing there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven.

its strange. every thing comes from nothing and returns to nothing. so nothing might as well be infinity. it has something to do with a chessboard. some times ideas are too vast or nebulous to communicate in a linear fashion. we cant bring them back with us. do you think John had Isis in mind when he wrote and your bird can sing? maybe he realized it years later. the human being communicating subtle.

living on monkey island baby
right in the middle of the zoo ...
...
well there's one thing about these monkeys baby
they don't know I'm around
that's pretty good cause if they knew
they'd probably come and put me down

13th floor elevators monkey island

with that in mind...

[iameye]

Feb 29, 2012 15:47:11 GMT -5 B said:

www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/isis.html

"...Isis was a winged goddess who represented all that was visible, birth, growth, development and vigour. Having wings, she was a wind goddess (as was her sister). She travelled widely, moaned and cried loud enough to shake the heavens and used her wings to blow life into her husband. The kite was sacred to her, and she could transform herself into this bird at will. She brought the heavenly scent with her through the land, leaving lingering scenes of spices and flowers her wake..."

--------------------------

"Being for the benefit of 'Mr. Kite'" would likely be for the benefit of Osiris (Paul).

The bird who "could sing" could be Isis, as described above.

And Your Bird Can Sing
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XtdQTLL-XU


and she's green!

WINGS GREATEST !






Isis forming on the tip of my Wings. Unheeded warnings,
I thought I thought of everything.




Green would also be a symbol of new life, if you're inclined to see things that way

[iameye]

Feb 29, 2012 21:04:45 GMT -5 B said:

Yeah, let's speed this up. I totally agree.
But before we leave, can we at least let the passengers on the bus?

Sure. Tell them it's a trip of a LIFETIME.

[B]

Note: Former (and deceased) US President Richard M Nixon usurped control
of B's account on April Fool's day, and posted the following.

Joni Mitchell - Willy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7h2GqpKQm0


I have no idea whether this song has anything to do with PID/PWR,
but us ex-Presidents rarely get to ex-Pres ourselves here, and if
the President says it's so, that makes it so, right?

I think I said something like that once.
Besides, this thread could use a little Joni Mitchell. (And you thought I wasn't hip!)
Tell John Lennon I always liked his stuff too! I just wasn't allowed to say it!
My best wishes to you all.

[iameye]

Apr 1, 2012 14:25:23 GMT -5 B said:

Joni Mitchell - Willy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7h2GqpKQm0


I have no idea whether this song has anything to do with PID/PWR,
but us ex-Presidents rarely get to ex-Pres ourselves here, and if
the President says it's so, that makes it so, right?

I think I said something like that once.
Besides, this thread could use a little Joni Mitchell. (And you thought I wasn't hip!)
Tell John Lennon I always liked his stuff too! I just wasn't allowed to say it!
My best wishes to you all.

lol


Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming.

We're finally on our own!


what if you knew her and found her dead on the ground....

how can you run WHEN YOU KNOW?




Been to Sunnylands lately, Dick? How about that pool I put in for ya
AT THE WHITE HOUSE?

Still doing laps?

[B]

A song that has been pointed to any number of times here by myself and some others
as possibly PID/PWR related, is The Who's "Substitute".
I mean, it just "had to be", but it isn't.

In the most recent issue of Rolling Stone, the one with Adelle on the front cover and Karmin
on the back (Issue 1167), there is a GREAT excerpt from Pete Townshend's new biography,
as well as a half page under the title: "Getting In Tune - Townshend explains
five of the Who's greatest songs", and there-in we learn that:

"Substitute began as homage to Smokey Robinson by way of
the Rolling Stones... a young man playing a role, uneasily,
repackaging black R&B music from America....
pretending to be wild and free when in reality
he needed to be looked after by his mother."

Oh well.

-----------------

This performance is specifically mentioned in the article:

The Who - Substitute (live Monterey 1967)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj2fLxzTRbQ

[iameye]

Oct 8, 2012 12:46:11 GMT -5 B said:

A song that has been pointed to any number of times here by myself and some others
as possibly PID/PWR related, is The Who's "Substitute".
I mean, it just "had to be", but it isn't.

In the most recent issue of Rolling Stone, the one with Adelle on the front cover

Well, actually

www.barnesandnoble.com/p/rolling-stone-special-john-lennon/25051330

[linus]

Slightly off-topic, but in response to B’s post about Jack Jones’
“A Day In the Life of a Fool”

Jan 25, 2012 11:02:13 GMT -5 B said:

obligatory mention

Jack Jones - A day in the life of a fool
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvLIlqKJ0eI

Not a song about PID, but a possible inspiration for the title of the song on the Sgt Pepper album.

I thought I recognized that melody. This is the American version of the Bossa Nova song “Manha de Carnaval” from the 1959 film Black Orpheus.
"A Day In the Life of a Fool", lyrics by Carl Sigman.
Carl Sigman also wrote the lyrics to “Answer Me, My Love” which shares similarities to the Beatles’ "Yesterday" both musically and thematically. The music to "Answer Me, My Love" is from the German song "Mutterlein".

Sigman also wrote the song “Just Yesterday” in 1965, which contains the line, “…only yesterday, now it all seems so far away”. Jack Jones’ recording of “Just Yesterday” reached #4 in the US charts that year.

Answer Me, My Love


Mutterlein


Just Yesterday


Also, give this song a listen:
Melody by Edvard Grieg, 1883

[iameye]

[linus]

^Look who just hit 11,000 posts! I just hit 333.

Also, B, in your post about "And Your Bird Can Sing" on this page, your photo of a green Isis is down. Do you still have it? I thought it was Osiris that was green in the painting of the dead in the underworld.

Osiris seated on the right. Isis and her sister standing behind him.


Also, speaking of Orpheus: he was a legendary musician that could charm any living creature, he worshipped only Apollo, was beheaded, and is closely associated with Dionysis.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orpheus