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Post by lbak on Jan 21, 2013 10:10:47 GMT -5
"because I think the truth would truly blow all our minds"
That's why nobody is going to hit you over the head with it. It's not just the Beatles though, is it? It's literally Everything. We don't even know who or what we are. The Beatles issue is a good entry point to help unravel the matrix, but it isn't even the tip of the iceberg.
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Post by multiverser on Jan 22, 2013 20:11:47 GMT -5
" it isn't even the tip of the iceberg."... yes, I agree.
And vOOdOOgurU, you may want to add The Process Church to your lines of inquiry. Also maybe, The Cult of Helios.
I agree that we should all keep trying to investigate and figure out whatever we can. Lately, I've been intrigued by the YouTube videos on the channel: LitleNeutrino (yeah, I know "little" is two t's, but this is how he/she spells the name of the channel). There are a lot of graphics in spanish (which I can't read) on that channel, but there is enough stuff in English to be really intriguing. Maybe this forum is already familiar with it, but if you guys aren't, check it out.
Other YouTube channels I have found useful (besides iamaphoney): Beacon1966,YouKnowMyName231, Stackpot (check out his "Paul is Dead Illuminate" series,
Apul McCartney, and of course the one and only AdmiralAlbert whose stuff was so good some of it got banned.
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Post by linus on Jan 22, 2013 23:01:11 GMT -5
Hi Multiverser. Just curious; in what specific ways do you think all Beatles images have been manipulated? In what way is the public being fooled? If you (and others) can see that there were multiples from early on, then it would seem the images aren’t being manipulated to make them all look like the same person - which is what one would assume they would want to do. (Some have found that the careful examining of vintage materials alone, will result in the discovery of unexplainable discrepancies.) Incidentally, here is a blog full of several hundred Beatles photos, the majority of which are submitted by fans who took them with their own cameras and have been storing them in their homes all these years. meetthebeatlesforreal.blogspot.com/Also, I’d be interested to hear why you believe the Beatles in specific were found, bought off, and used as pawns and not some other group of young guys? Were they the only group that this happened to? And regarding Heather Mills and her famous interview: If there are Powers that Be behind “Paul/Faul”, why was he(s) allowed to just marry some random girl off the street? Wouldn't they want his girlfriends/wives to be part of the program? Heather says she 'fears for her life and that the world can't handle the truth about the Beatles', which says to me she is not part of the program. Why was "Faul" allowed to let somebody like that into the circle? Or is everything about her... part of the program? I'm sure what she said about the Beatles is true, but why exactly was that statement made? |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 23, 2013 17:38:13 GMT -5
" it isn't even the tip of the iceberg."... yes, I agree. And vOOdOOgurU, you may want to add The Process Church to your lines of inquiry. Also maybe, The Cult of Helios. I agree that we should all keep trying to investigate and figure out whatever we can. Lately, I've been intrigued by the YouTube videos on the channel: LitleNeutrino (yeah, I know "little" is two t's, but this is how he/she spells the name of the channel). There are a lot of graphics in spanish (which I can't read) on that channel, but there is enough stuff in English to be really intriguing. Maybe this forum is already familiar with it, but if you guys aren't, check it out. Other YouTube channels I have found useful (besides iamaphoney): Beacon1966,YouKnowMyName231, Stackpot (check out his "Paul is Dead Illuminate" series, Apul McCartney, and of course the one and only AdmiralAlbert whose stuff was so good some of it got banned. Cult of Helios I shall have to check out  The Process Church of the Final Judgement has been on my ALWAYS check out if they come up somehow, someway. (And I think I posted here awhile ago where their distinctive logo shows up on the door in Eyes Wide Shut, when Tom Cruise enters the mansion of the masquerade.) Also found a pretty interesting video called Unveiling the Mysteries of the Process ... which set out to give an unbiased, non-conspiratorial view of their history, in essence, a balanced perspective opposite Wyllie's account. In the end it was completely Pro-Process, hardly unbiased at all. But very interesting nevertheless. Apart from the computerised voice narration. My latest thoughts are: There have always been 5 Beatles. Right from the very beginning. 3 and 2. |
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Post by multiverser on Jan 23, 2013 22:05:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the thoughtful, hard, and compelling questions, linus. I shouldn't have been so cynical about the photo evidence. I should correct myself by saying that over time, maybe in the next few decades, as many images as can be found by the perpetrators will be photoshopped or doctored so future historians will see just one guy. Sir has his own archival website where his gang can manipulate any images they have there. The Soviets used to manipulate 'history' by changing photos for newspapers. So that's where I'm coming from on that.
I only have a hunch, intuition, guess, whatever you want to call 'no evidence' --- that The Beatles were discovered in the Hollywood sense like an unknown actor being suddenly propelled to stardom, but not by Brian. My hunch is they were selected for a Tavistock project, talked into it, paid well, and Brian was added to them to appear to be their inexperienced manager. I don't think Brian was a Tavistock agent, but was just used for appearances. I think George Martin was a Tavistock agent. My feeling is that the early Lennon/McCartney songs were designed to enrapture teen girls, as was the stage act.
I think Tavistock were researching how mass hysteria could be created. They had seen Hitler do it and had studied how he did it and then they wanted to see if a boy band catering to the longings of teen girls could do it by formula, by design. They were successful at accomplishing that, obviously, and I think 'the boys' got MBEs for their cooperation in the secret program. They didn't get the MBEs for nothing. They were like secret agents.
I think there were doubles as part of the experiment. Just a hunch. If you look at the day-by-day chronology of the group's activities, appearances, song production and all they did and crammed into every week, every month, it looks a bit superhuman. But if you have two groups operating at the same time, that continuous crash schedule is more manageable. Just one group doing all that 'fast lane' recording, TV, radio, films, personal appearances, concerts, and so forth would have disintegrated from fatigue by early 1965, but they kept going and going and going.
When Ringo was replaced during their international tour by Jimmy Nicol, I think that was part of the experiment too, to see if an out-in-the-open, different guy replacement would have any effect.
Paul was killed for some unknown reason. Maybe he didn't want to continue playing the secret game and threatened to go public. Who knows. There could well have been a secret society involved and practicing some Crowley mumbo-jumbo sponsored by ultra-rich City of London cabal types. Maybe they decided since Paul wasn't going to cooperate anymore, to sacrifice him in a ritual. Who knows.
I think Brian was eliminated when he began to talk to his gay lovers about the real history and Paul being replaced. Brian was silenced and later, so was Mal.
About Heather Mills, you can find the YouTube clip fairly easily. It's well known. She claims that if "a certain party tops me off", she's given a "box of evidence" to a friend with instructions to go public with it. Strangely, I saw a clip of a radio jock who claims that Heather was a high class call girl for the ultra-rich prince Kashoggi, she spurned him over something and he secretly had her attacked with the result being her leg cut off so that after Kashoggi, no one would want her. How Sir got involved, I have no idea. The radio jock story could easily be BS, nonsense, but it is interesting.
Also, I think the death of Stu is highly mysterious, as was dumping Pete Best. Perhaps Tavistock found them lacking the proper talent needed.
I think John & Paul did write the early songs themselves, but were using a 'boy/girl relationships formula' along with certain techniques 'yeah, yeah, yeah'.
Ultimately, all the early band members and their doubles, as well as Brian Epstein, were in too deep and felt that they had to cooperate with their intelligence agency handlers in order to survive. Paul tried to get out and they saw what happened to him. They saw what happened to Brian when he started to talk. I think there was also a seemingly unending supply of hush money being spread about.
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Post by multiverser on Jan 23, 2013 22:26:28 GMT -5
I've been reading a John Fowles novel, called The Magus, that somewhere I read was a favorite novel of John & Paul or the Indica people, sorry I forgot the association. But in the book, there are identical twins who make appearances as each other for nefarious reasons.
It just crossed my mind today --- what if Paul had a secret twin brother and both were involved in The Beatles appearing as the one Paul. I know that's a laughable theory, but I don't remember anyone ever bringing up that admittedly bizarre possibility. I'm sure it could be ruled out but not by official records which could have been altered and faked to show no such twin ever existed.
What if one twin Paul was killed and the other kept on playing Beatle Paul. Maybe he wasn't a twin, but a brother close in age, one or two years apart. They could have looked alike and had very similar voices. Imagine Paul and Bill, brothers, but the existence of Bill was wiped out of all official records. Maybe it's Paul's secret brother Bill who appears on Sgt Pepper and the albums thereafter.
Yes, I know, it's a very wild and absurd theory. Can anyone easily disprove the possibility?
The guy, Mike McGear, who played the role of Paul's 'brother' on the Mike Douglas show seemed not only to be a counterfeit pawn in the game but a sinister one at that. His cronies in his band Scaffold seemed wickedly smarmy and suspicious characters, as well.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 24, 2013 4:05:31 GMT -5
I've been reading a John Fowles novel, called The Magus, that somewhere I read was a favorite novel of John & Paul or the Indica people, sorry I forgot the association. But in the book, there are identical twins who make appearances as each other for nefarious reasons. It just crossed my mind today --- what if Paul had a secret twin brother and both were involved in The Beatles appearing as the one Paul. I know that's a laughable theory, but I don't remember anyone ever bringing up that admittedly bizarre possibility. I'm sure it could be ruled out but not by official records which could have been altered and faked to show no such twin ever existed. What if one twin Paul was killed and the other kept on playing Beatle Paul. Maybe he wasn't a twin, but a brother close in age, one or two years apart. They could have looked alike and had very similar voices. Imagine Paul and Bill, brothers, but the existence of Bill was wiped out of all official records. Maybe it's Paul's secret brother Bill who appears on Sgt Pepper and the albums thereafter. Yes, I know, it's a very wild and absurd theory. Can anyone easily disprove the possibility? The guy, Mike McGear, who played the role of Paul's 'brother' on the Mike Douglas show seemed not only to be a counterfeit pawn in the game but a sinister one at that. His cronies in his band Scaffold seemed wickedly smarmy and suspicious characters, as well. Had this been 20 years ago, I would've thought the theory absurd. But not now. I posted a video yesterday with one of the agendas I believe was to be "promoted" in having two Pauls. They were always in operation, I was just unsure what exactly to look for. Well, I knew the differences in the two, but not a glaring one. And then figuring out which one came first, and which one is the one with the agenda/programming. A possible constant operation, where one pushes this agenda, while the other one is programmed into another, allowing for disappearances and reappearances for decades. Or at least 2 decades. Lately I see only one of them in operation. And telling them apart was shocking once discovered. I'm going to call this Paul that appears later in the video (he got early warning) Paul No.2. It's just pinpointing when he first appeared is the hard part. Scoured pictures from 1962/1963 to see when "operation double" really started. By 1965 I think it was firmly in place regardless. So I call this Paul No.2. He's also in HELP, but I don't see him in A Hard Day's Night. Yet. Some of the footage comes from an FDA (Food & Drug Administration) produced "scare" film about LSD. I instantly recognised two of the "Hippies" that walk into the bookstore in the film. Vito Paulekas and Carl Franzoni. Barry Miles, writing in his book Hippie, “The first hippies in Hollywood, perhaps the first hippies anywhere, were Vito, his wife Zsou, Captain Fuck and their group of about thirty-five dancers. Calling themselves Freaks, they lived a semi-communal life and engaged in sex orgies and free-form dancing whenever they could.” Yeah. Barry Miles. Indica Gallery Barry Miles, who insists along with others that John Lennon met Yoko Ono on the 9th November, 1966, when all documented evidence states he couldn't have. Not on that date. Anyway. I'm never quite sure what works for linking to Youtube videos from here, so please excuse the multiples below. youtu.be/0ZlAfB3KFF8 |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 24, 2013 4:17:47 GMT -5
It should also be noted that King Features/Al Brodax have a habit of associating The Beatles with Frankenstein's Monster and King Kong/Gorillas. Well, given the opportunity to do so. I noticed it the other week while researching the Hearst Corporation and their association with King Features. Looking at a few Beatles cartoons, I came across the episode "Tell Me What You See". In it Ringo transforms into Frankenstein's monster, whom John tries to console. They then both (I believe) turn into Gorillas. And I thought, wait ... Yellow Submarine repeats this. When Ringo goes to find John in the "Ultra House", he instead finds Frankenstein's Monster. Fortunately he drinks a potion and turns into John. When searching for Paul, the first door opened only reveals King Kong attempting to take beauty (whose shoes are very displayed at the side of the bed, making sure we know she is barefoot in bed. Why you'd wear shoes to bed of course is .... but we definitely know her shoes are off.) And I thought to myself, what's with Brodax/King and this repeated Frankenstein/King Kong thing??? Creative rut? Not knowing what else to do with The Beatles. It's a repeated pattern, closely associated with John and Ringo. Just a thing noticed. |
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Post by iameye on Jan 24, 2013 9:23:14 GMT -5
It should also be noted that King Features/Al Brodax have a habit of associating The Beatles with Frankenstein's Monster and King Kong/Gorillas. Well, given the opportunity to do so. I noticed it the other week while researching the Hearst Corporation and their association with King Features. Looking at a few Beatles cartoons, I came across the episode "Tell Me What You See". In it Ringo transforms into Frankenstein's monster, whom John tries to console. They then both (I believe) turn into Gorillas. And I thought, wait ... Yellow Submarine repeats this. When Ringo goes to find John in the "Ultra House", he instead finds Frankenstein's Monster. Fortunately he drinks a potion and turns into John. When searching for Paul, the first door opened only reveals King Kong attempting to take beauty (whose shoes are very displayed at the side of the bed, making sure we know she is barefoot in bed. Why you'd wear shoes to bed of course is .... but we definitely know her shoes are off.) And I thought to myself, what's with Brodax/King and this repeated Frankenstein/King Kong thing??? Creative rut? Not knowing what else to do with The Beatles. It's a repeated pattern, closely associated with John and Ringo. Just a thing noticed. Notice Ringo's button. |
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Post by multiverser on Jan 24, 2013 22:53:55 GMT -5
vOOdOOgurU, I agree with all you're saying. Keen observations about Frankenstein. I've seen the cartoon episode you refer to, being turned on to it in one of LitleNeutrino's YouTube vids.
The King Features guy was obviously in on the whole clue business, as were the team who created Yellow Submarine which is so full of clues it reeks.
iameye, I've become one of your fans. Please don't quit. I don't care if you are entirely cryptic, your posts are hitting the nail on the head and I don't mind trying to suss what you're on about.
Please ignore the "haters" and keep enlightening us until we get it!
I will say one thing. There is a sort of sublime synchronicity in the whole Beatles mystery. How are so many thousands of details connected? They can't be all coincidental, but only a supreme being type entity could manage it all!
My wildest theory, which granted I could be straight-jacketed for, is that by some arcane, occult practice, 'doors of perception' were opened in a way that allows multiverses (parallel worlds, if you like that phrase better) to intersect and co-mingle. Sounds like science fiction until you read the latest physics gurus talk about all possibilities existing simultaneously. Guys like Michio Kaku have done the maths to prove it so.
Kaku, one of the founders of string theory, says that everything that can happen actually does happen in paralell worlds. Now, Kaku believes that it is impossible for these worlds to intersect or comingle with one another. Perhaps Kaku is wrong about that. Perhaps the subtle interaction of these worlds is what causes synchronicities among other bizarre happenstances.
Kubrick could have been on to what I'm saying. Crowley could have known about this from studying ancient hermetic knowledge as he did. Tavistock could know. They could have clued John Lennon in.
iameye... am I getting warmer?
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Post by duodamsel on Jan 25, 2013 6:10:44 GMT -5
When searching for Paul, the first door opened only reveals King Kong attempting to take beauty (whose shoes are very displayed at the side of the bed, making sure we know she is barefoot in bed. Why you'd wear shoes to bed of course is .... but we definitely know her shoes are off.) King Kong taking away the barefoot beauty is interesting. I know some may accuse the clip below (and perhaps even me) of promoting racism by associating King Kong with people (and this unflattering/offensive comparison has been made in the past by the ignorant and hateful), but I think there is some connection they're trying to make that, so far, is just going over my head. |
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Post by multiverser on Jan 25, 2013 9:24:52 GMT -5
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 25, 2013 17:36:30 GMT -5
It should also be noted that King Features/Al Brodax have a habit of associating The Beatles with Frankenstein's Monster and King Kong/Gorillas. Well, given the opportunity to do so. I noticed it the other week while researching the Hearst Corporation and their association with King Features. Looking at a few Beatles cartoons, I came across the episode "Tell Me What You See". In it Ringo transforms into Frankenstein's monster, whom John tries to console. They then both (I believe) turn into Gorillas. And I thought, wait ... Yellow Submarine repeats this. When Ringo goes to find John in the "Ultra House", he instead finds Frankenstein's Monster. Fortunately he drinks a potion and turns into John. When searching for Paul, the first door opened only reveals King Kong attempting to take beauty (whose shoes are very displayed at the side of the bed, making sure we know she is barefoot in bed. Why you'd wear shoes to bed of course is .... but we definitely know her shoes are off.) And I thought to myself, what's with Brodax/King and this repeated Frankenstein/King Kong thing??? Creative rut? Not knowing what else to do with The Beatles. It's a repeated pattern, closely associated with John and Ringo. Just a thing noticed. Notice Ringo's button. Noted had forgotten about the promo for Back Off Boogaloo. Even though in the past 2 weeks it's come to mind that Boogaloo may be Paul. May be. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 25, 2013 17:46:23 GMT -5
When searching for Paul, the first door opened only reveals King Kong attempting to take beauty (whose shoes are very displayed at the side of the bed, making sure we know she is barefoot in bed. Why you'd wear shoes to bed of course is .... but we definitely know her shoes are off.) King Kong taking away the barefoot beauty is interesting. I know some may accuse the clip below (and perhaps even me) of promoting racism by associating King Kong with people (and this unflattering/offensive comparison has been made in the past by the ignorant and hateful), but I think there is some connection they're trying to make that, so far, is just going over my head. The barefoot magick is what got my attention And also being frustrated that the blackboard in Magical Mystery Tour is hard to get a clear shot of for the symbols that appear upon it. The ankh is the most notable, and an unfinished Scorpio/or Virgo astrological symbol. It's the backwards and forwards letters at the bottom of the blackboard I want to see clearly. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 25, 2013 18:02:56 GMT -5
vOOdOOgurU, I agree with all you're saying. Keen observations about Frankenstein. I've seen the cartoon episode you refer to, being turned on to it in one of LitleNeutrino's YouTube vids. The King Features guy was obviously in on the whole clue business, as were the team who created Yellow Submarine which is so full of clues it reeks. iameye, I've become one of your fans. Please don't quit. I don't care if you are entirely cryptic, your posts are hitting the nail on the head and I don't mind trying to suss what you're on about. Please ignore the "haters" and keep enlightening us until we get it! I will say one thing. There is a sort of sublime synchronicity in the whole Beatles mystery. How are so many thousands of details connected? They can't be all coincidental, but only a supreme being type entity could manage it all! My wildest theory, which granted I could be straight-jacketed for, is that by some arcane, occult practice, 'doors of perception' were opened in a way that allows multiverses (parallel worlds, if you like that phrase better) to intersect and co-mingle. Sounds like science fiction until you read the latest physics gurus talk about all possibilities existing simultaneously. Guys like Michio Kaku have done the maths to prove it so. Kaku, one of the founders of string theory, says that everything that can happen actually does happen in paralell worlds. Now, Kaku believes that it is impossible for these worlds to intersect or comingle with one another. Perhaps Kaku is wrong about that. Perhaps the subtle interaction of these worlds is what causes synchronicities among other bizarre happenstances. Kubrick could have been on to what I'm saying. Crowley could have known about this from studying ancient hermetic knowledge as he did. Tavistock could know. They could have clued John Lennon in. iameye... am I getting warmer? Agreed. Yellow Submarine is so full of clues and references it reeks. And to suggest The Beatles were playing a hoax/marketing scheme, and the required amount of people that would have to keep their mouths shut about it, falls apart as a possible when you get to King Features/Brodax and Yellow Submarine. The Beatles involvement we are told was minimal. It was a contractual obligation picture to United Artists, they only grew interested in it when they saw the almost complete film and decided to participate. This makes all the animators, actors, writers, producer(s) and director compliant with the "hoax". It would require many people to shut their traps for years. And some of the clues wouldn't be readily available to hear until technology/media formatting made it available. To go to such ends to place clues all over the place in a marketing scheme that may take 40 years to truly take off, in a capitalistic, make money now, Hearst Corporation world ---- is a rose coloured glasses belief system. The marketing scheme doesn't even make sense to me business wise. It took at least 2 years for it to even be noticed, and the word had to be put out. Otherwise, it may have taken decades. It was just flying over people's heads. And that doesn't seem like marketing to me. It's hedging bets that the consumer will guess what the "product" is you're selling. This being Paul Is Dead. And no one was buying it until 1969! And it seems with the current technology, and free downloads all over the place, and no one paying for anything anymore (a general statement, but you get my drift) that marketing scheme backfired. It has not caused a resurgence in sales for nothing but advertisers on Youtube as people go listen to this track backwards, or that photo compared to this photo. A marketing scheme that shows:a slow return, places faith that the consumer will get what you're selling. requires the vendor to deny their selling it, but still put it on the shelves in numerous ways over decades. has been disadvantaged by the past 10 years of digital media formats and access to film/sound/archives previously unavailable for "free". I'm a firm believer in the parallel worlds theory -- when scientists needed there to be an 11th dimension to actually explain how gravity works, that 11th dimension opened up a whole crapload of possibilities -- including multiple, parallel worlds and universes. Plus that one electron commuting to another electron billions of light years away, simultaneously, totally throwing Einstein's theory that nothing travels faster than light out the window. It made the very thought that the universe was a hologram, or had holographic qualities to it, become something of a reality. There's also the electric universe theory -- and with the above video about barefoot magick and the electrical earth --- well synchronicity and this whole thing does often come up |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 25, 2013 18:08:21 GMT -5
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Post by multiverser on Jan 25, 2013 21:55:20 GMT -5
vOOdOOgurU, I agree about the marketing thing. Let's plant clues to sell more records... no, I'm not believing that for the same reasons you've stated. Also, The Beatles never really needed any elaborate marketing ploy because they were a hit machine. If they had stayed together beyond 1969, they could have raked in tons more money. If they had lived and done stadium shows, they could have out grossed the Rolling Stones by now, easily.
I remember a John Lennon quote. Someone asked him in the house-husband period if he had quit the business because he couldn't write hits anymore. He said he could write a hit any day he pleased and had done it many times before. My point is these guys were money makers any time they wanted to be. Look at Sir in the last 30 years... need to make some more money, no problem.
Now, I'm convinced Paul had several doubles. The photo evidence seems to show that John had a few doubles, as well. Ringo looks like he had one or two and George, I'm not so sure.
The thing is, doubles or not, they were a group that could make a billion dollars or pounds.
I think the clues business was a combination of some far reaching occult secret society (Crowley admiring to be sure) doing their magick thing for whatever cults do strange things for and that combined with some kind of truly bizarre and supernatural, parallel worlds, bleed through, hyper-synchronicity gone mad.
Remember Philip Norman in that clip saying The Beatles were not a normal band, but they were supernatural. I've often wished he would have explained what he meant by that.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 26, 2013 0:42:19 GMT -5
Remember Philip Norman in that clip saying The Beatles were not a normal band, but they were supernatural. I've often wished he would have explained what he meant by that. Yeah he was being very very cryptic. Again, if you're selling a book, being cryptic ain't going to do you any favours. One would follow that up with, it's all in my book what I mean, or read it and find out. He was very cryptic in that answer. Just like you said, The Beatles did not need PT Barnum hoaxes to make money. The only boat they truly missed out on was the merchandising racket. Learning curve really. No one expected that market to take off. Well I think some did, which alludes back to their being some other operation in place, and I'm starting to think that is very very likely. How to prove it, don't know! |
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Post by multiverser on Jan 26, 2013 11:54:30 GMT -5
Yes and I wonder how many experiments were operating simultaneously. The Beatles Mystery, as I'm now fond of calling the whole thing, seems to have been supernatural on multi-layers (glass onion) and in addition, controlled social experimentation on the masses, again on multiple levels.
It's almost as if, in terms of hyper-synchronicity, a concerted effort is made to get a big ball of clues rolling and then there is some kind of critical mass of all those clues that then ignites hyper-synchronicity, so then at that point the whole supernatural thing takes over and has a life (pardon the pun) of its own whereby 'it' (the snowball rolling down hill or if you'd rather --- the glass onion) generates, on its own, thousands more clues.
I'm of the opinion that Lennon's use of the phrase "glass onion" is based on his getting some kind of esoteric knowledge about physics --- how our multiple universes and realities really operate. Dr. Lisa Randall, Harvard physicist, is one of the founders of "brane cosmology" which is a theory (again, supported by maths) that there are infinite numbers of universes, each one existing on an enormous membrane.
I believe that Kaku and Randall will eventually find out that multiple universes which contain copies of ourselves can in certain circumstances either intersect or resonate, which causes hyper-synchronicities. Perhaps artificially kicking off the resonances produces a chain reaction to the point of critical mass and then the membranes begin to intersect and interact with one another. The resulting one clue planted multiplies into 100 clues generated by 'the field' --- Strawberry Fields Forever! Block that kick! Block that kick!
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Post by multiverser on Jan 26, 2013 12:10:54 GMT -5
FYI, in the John Fowles novel The Magus, one of the fave books of the Indica crowd, the twins who appear as each other to fool people are named Lily and Rose. Faul loves to plant the clue "Lily" and then you also have Red Rose Speedway.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 26, 2013 16:34:40 GMT -5
It's almost as if, in terms of hyper-synchronicity, a concerted effort is made to get a big ball of clues rolling and then there is some kind of critical mass of all those clues that then ignites hyper-synchronicity, so then at that point the whole spernatural thing takes over and has a life (pardon the pun) of its own whereby 'it' (the snowball rolling down hill or if you'd rather --- the glass onion) generates, on its own, thousands more clues. THAT theory right there, and excuse my language, is the shit! That's something that I read and thought, you know what. That theory has some serious potential. We live in a world where a rocket scientist and the son of a man who was convinced he was Satan and performed his own abortions, did a ritual that may have had huge ramifications on our "dimension". If i could make that stuff up, I'd be in Hollywood. I honestly think Jack Parsons/L. Ron Hubbard did something they maybe shouldn't have done. But how am I to know in a shaky dualistic system what is "right" or "wrong". I think those concepts are totally outmoded. Either way in this world we live in AFTER 1946, that theory you proposed above, makes absolute sense to me. Crazy world |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 26, 2013 16:45:55 GMT -5
FYI, in the John Fowles novel The Magus, one of the fave books of the Indica crowd, the twins who appear as each other to fool people are named Lily and Rose. Faul loves to plant the clue "Lily" and then you also have Red Rose Speedway. If you go back to Welsh mythology, the story of Rhiannon and Pwyll have so many parallels to Paul Is Dead it's back to that statement you made about time existing all at once. And I truly believe time does exist all at once. Though I cannot prove nor see that right next to me, in another dimension, a roman soldier is now peeing up against a tree, does not mean it's not happening. I believe it is happening. (not the peeing. but the event itself.) And that all events carry a common thread that lead to a penultimate conclusion, which starts the process once again, once that "finite" conclusion leads to the next "question" . I started writing little excerpts from a novel I woke up with in my head the other week. These thoughts came to me out of a myriad of dreams. One after the other, like confirmations of questions asked in the dream world. It involves a student and a mage. The novel reads like someone's diary entries of the training days becoming a magician. In the third thought I had, the mage is explaining to the student about the parallel dimensions. The student still can't see them, but the mage can. The mage tells him, right next to you, there is a battle between an army of wizards, warlocks, witches that has been ongoing for centuries. The outcome of which is dependant on what we do here in this world, as much as what they do there. The student expects some great consequences must happen here to affect the outcome of this parallel universe war. He asks what do we have to do??? The mage merely says, it all depends on whether you believe me that there is an ancient war of magick taking place right beside you that you can't see. This conversation affects that battle happening there in ways that may not be perceived, but are there nonetheless. What you believe when this conversation ends, plays part in what happens overall. These parallel worlds and universes, or even the theory that time takes place all at once, the past, present and future all happening at the same time, leads me to believe that Paul Is Dead has been played over and over again, many times, over many centuries. Over and over again, until either the mystery of its beginnings, or how it truly ends, is discovered or answered. |
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Post by multiverser on Jan 27, 2013 9:49:26 GMT -5
Thanks for your insights, vOOdOOgurU!
Yes, we're in agreement. Here's another theory to contemplate. It's my "Dearly Beloved Gathered Here Today" theory...
By joining together the images of all those people to create the Sgt Pepper cover and then selling it to millions of viewers and listeners worldwide, I think that all of the souls of all of the characters who appear in the funeral scene on the cover are in a mystical sense bound together for all eternity.
Obviously, they have 'being on the cover' as something in common that they share, but taking it a step further, if a researcher were to carefully examine every little known detail about each biography, I think that synchronistic binding points would surprisingly appear for the researcher to map out as if connecting dots. The surprising result would be that the researcher would at some juncture come to the inescapable realization that all those famous people on the cover were somehow destined to end up there on that cover forever, for all eternity. I don't mean there is something simple like "they were all freemasons" --- no, that's not what I'm saying. I believe there was something deep in each of their souls that cemented their bond and that the cover is a visual snapshot of that soul bond.
I believe it was Peter Brown and Derek Taylor who were tasked with sending letters and telegrams to the estates of all those being considered for the cover. I think that those who declined were never destined to be on the cover and those who agreed were already destined to end up there. So, the questions and the answers done to get permissions were only formalities. The cover was decided at the time of birth for all those whose image would eventually be on the Sgt Pepper cover.
Taking it further, perhaps each soul resonated and still resonates with the lyrics in part or whole for one or more of the songs on the album. Like, one of the characters on the cover may have had and still has a connection to When I'm 64, whereas another chartacter's soul might resonate with Fixing A Hole, etc.
I know it isn't clear what I'm getting at. Suffice to say, the Sgt Pepper cover has immense mystical power.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Jan 27, 2013 14:11:56 GMT -5
It was completely clear Think of all the things you have to do in your life to bring you to this moment we call NOW. This is millions of decisions, thoughts, steps undertaken. One deviation from that process begun, would mean I would not be typing this right now. It literally means, if in 1995 I had not gone to the convenience store, and instead went to the park with friends ... I would not be typing this right now. It's that subtle and binding. If one believes in destiny, fate, kismet or not, the fundamental fact that each decision made, and decision made for you (as it were) brings you to NOW regardless. Each person on the front cover of Pepper was meant to end up there? Yep. I agree with that wholeheartedly and emphatically. Which makes it a very symbolically magical and powerful symbol. As is Paul Is Dead. And I do believe magick is at play here. But the question "are you a good witch or a bad witch" always underscores every item on display I look at. Duality. Go figure. I would like to believe it's an equal portion of each. But mostly, looking at the Paul Is Dead story, I see someone's red shoes are missing. |
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Post by multiverser on Jan 27, 2013 22:02:15 GMT -5
Yes!
Also, I've often wondered if there is any Stanley Kubrick connection. AdmiralAlbert would say, "Yes, indeed!" I'm sure.
We've got the last scene of THE SHINING showing us that the Jack Nicholson character is a ghost soul who keeps reincarnating and reappearing in the hotel. He's front and center in the group photo of the 1920's ballroom party. On the Pepper cover, there are all those faces like a group photo and front and center we have "Paul" who is, as we now know, a ghost soul by virtue of the fact that there is this monumental Paul Is Dead thing binding his soul to the cover, the people represented on the cover, that time 1967, that other time 1964, you know, it is surreal. Jack in THE SHINING is a ghost soul; Beatle Paul (sadly) -- a ghost soul. Somehow bound to return over and over and manifest in ways we are seeing and will see in either impostors or synchronicities or returning in the flesh and bound to something (I dont' know what) by a mystical force. It's like ghosts who haven't worked everything out.
Then we have EYES WIDE SHUT. One of my theories about PID has always been that Paul became involved in a secret society in London that consisted of super-rich occult practitioners who were into rituals. I've imagined that Paul was invited or stumbled into what he thought was a private party of London super-rich and found out too late that it was a dangerous cabal of lecherous, murdering, luciferian, sex ritualistic and blood ritualistic, occult, Crowley worshipping wealthy socialites who would kill rather than be exposed to the public. If you imagine the mansion in EYES WIDE SHUT is not in New York, but just outside London (Kubrick lived just outside London) and substitute the Tom Cruise character with original Paul McCartney. Maybe Kubrick heard the real story and put it on film using Tom Cruise as a doctor to represent Paul McCartney, the pop star. Maybe that's how Paul was killed --- by venturing into this party that turned into something he couldn't escape from and ended up some kind of blood sacrifice. Chilling to think about. Kubrick using EYES WIDE SHUT to tell us what happened to Paul. In the movie, Tom Cruise escapes. Maybe Beatle Paul was not able to escape and was killed there at the masked sex ritual 'party'.
I don't know, that's kind of a stretch, but Kubrick was quite enigmatic himself and his films were no doubt, enigmas. Kubrick, I believe, learned about many, many secrets of London high society. He was right there living in the countryside near London.
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The Process Church of the Final Judgement has been on my ALWAYS check out if they come up somehow, someway. (And I think I posted here awhile ago where their distinctive logo shows up on the door in Eyes Wide Shut, when Tom Cruise enters the mansion of the masquerade.)
