Solution to Sgt. Pepper Enigma

[Serviceable Villain]

Jan 13, 2010 10:52:49 GMT -5 P(D)enny La(i)ne said:

I hadn't seen this image before, serviceablevillain. Where did you get it from?

Sorry, I meant to post the link. In my many travels throughout the internet I came across so many pages dealing with PID/PWR theories. Many of which do not easily show themselves on Google making them hard to find. Hence why I wasn't even sure if I had actually seen this bit of info or dreamed it.

I believe the first time I stumbled upon the site I didn't think much of the other information beyond the supposed hidden images because I was still very new to the PID legend. At that time I couldn't possibly comprehend the symbolism because I wasn't yet convinced that Paul was even replaced.

I still haven't read through it, but the site is either courtesy of one of our friends here, or someone else entirely is at least in the same mind frame of this very thread.

From the site, regarding Sgt. Pepper:
"The cover design screams out for interpretation. The explanations of the " Paul's Dead Theory " do not adequately resolve the numerous symbols. I offer my explanation, not as definitive, but as food for thought."

Regarding MMT:
"In 'I Am the Walrus' is the line 'man you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen POE...'
"...Interestingly, POE wrote a short story called 'The Gold Bug', about how the discovery of an unknown species of beetle leads to a hidden treasure! A cipher had to be decoded to locate the treasure. The weird coincidences experienced by the discoverer of the beetle that led to the discovery of the cryptogram, are as significant as the theme."

Here's the link:
www.dread.net/~finder/beatles/fade.html

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Jan 13, 2010 15:39:40 GMT -5 Serviceable Villain said:

Jan 13, 2010 10:52:49 GMT -5 P(D)enny La(i)ne said:

I hadn't seen this image before, serviceablevillain. Where did you get it from?

Sorry, I meant to post the link. In my many travels throughout the internet I came across so many pages dealing with PID/PWR theories. Many of which do not easily show themselves on Google making them hard to find. Hence why I wasn't even sure if I had actually seen this bit of info or dreamed it.

I believe the first time I stumbled upon the site I didn't think much of the other information beyond the supposed hidden images because I was still very new to the PID legend. At that time I couldn't possibly comprehend the symbolism because I wasn't yet convinced that Paul was even replaced.

I still haven't read through it, but the site is either courtesy of one of our friends here, or someone else entirely is at least in the same mind frame of this very thread.

From the site, regarding Sgt. Pepper:
"The cover design screams out for interpretation. The explanations of the " Paul's Dead Theory " do not adequately resolve the numerous symbols. I offer my explanation, not as definitive, but as food for thought."

Regarding MMT:
"In 'I Am the Walrus' is the line 'man you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen POE...'
"...Interestingly, POE wrote a short story called 'The Gold Bug', about how the discovery of an unknown species of beetle leads to a hidden treasure! A cipher had to be decoded to locate the treasure. The weird coincidences experienced by the discoverer of the beetle that led to the discovery of the cryptogram, are as significant as the theme."

Here's the link:
www.dread.net/~finder/beatles/fade.html

Wow, it would be almost impossible to just happen upon that site.

It's a shame too, because it's got some good information, and it's laid out in a very simple, readable manner.

Thanks for posting it, sv.

The one thing that jumped out at me that I'd never heard expressed before was this:

"Most gum is made from latex rubber, taken from the sapodilla tree of Central and South America.

"Soul" and "sole" are homophones, that is words that have the same pronunciation but different meanings or spellings.

sole:
1 a : the undersurface of a foot b : the part of an item of footwear on which the sole rests and upon which the wearer treads
2 : the usually flat or flattened bottom or lower part of something or the base on which something rests

Thus, "Rubber Soul" translates to "Gum Shoe"

This made me immediately think of this line from "Come Together":

"He bag production he got walrus gumboot"

Was Lennon referencing Rubber Soul?

First Lennon said that he was the walrus.

Then he said that Paul was the Walrus (Glass Onion).

Then, in "God", he reverted back to himself as the walrus.

So much talk about the walrus. And then the last reference connects the concept of the walrus with a Rubber Soul.

Were they ALL the walrus?

I've mentioned this before, but is that what Quadrophenia means?

Four from one?



Walrus gumboot

[Serviceable Villain]

Jan 13, 2010 10:52:49 GMT -5 P(D)enny La(i)ne said:

I've added a yellow line dividing the two jawlines, and I'm proposing that Mick and Mangled Paul share the center eye.

The center eye... Whoever these possible faces represent, is it safe to assume that they share a THIRD EYE? The McCartney Eye???

[Serviceable Villain]

Jan 13, 2010 16:58:30 GMT -5 P(D)enny La(i)ne said:

I've mentioned this before, but is that what Quadrophenia means?

Four from one?



Walrus gumboot

Has this not been discussed in detail? It gave me this thought:

Jimmy (short for James) a man with four personalities which represent the 4 members of the Who.

Faul sang, played guitar, bass, and drums. Is Faul Jimmy, in that sense? Able to represent the 4 Beatles in one package? Four from one... or in this case one from four?

Of course its my understanding that JPM played drums too. Yet, I think it was Roby Younge from one of the Rotten Apple vids called Faul "cleaned, groomed, and more talented than the first one." He spoke of him as if he was the Six Million Dollar Man.

Sorry for rambling, its how I brainstorm. ;D

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Jan 14, 2010 11:07:16 GMT -5 Serviceable Villain said:

Jan 13, 2010 16:58:30 GMT -5 P(D)enny La(i)ne said:

I've mentioned this before, but is that what Quadrophenia means?

Four from one?



Walrus gumboot

Has this not been discussed in detail? It gave me this thought:

Jimmy (short for James) a man with four personalities which represent the 4 members of the Who.

Faul sang, played guitar, bass, and drums. Is Faul Jimmy, in that sense? Able to represent the 4 Beatles in one package? Four from one... or in this case one from four?

Of course its my understanding that JPM played drums too. Yet, I think it was Roby Younge from one of the Rotten Apple vids called Faul "cleaned, groomed, and more talented than the first one." He spoke of him as if he was the Six Million Dollar Man.

Sorry for rambling, its how I brainstorm. ;D

Yes, sv, we've batted this around before, but I brought it up again because of the 'gum shoe = (walrus) gum boot' revelation that I had upon visiting the site that you posted.

If the concept of the walrus is so important that Lennon mentioned it in 4 different songs, and specifically switched the identity of the walrus in 3 of them, then it's connection to the idea of a Rubber Soul makes it even more important.

Perhaps the Lewis Carroll connection (The Walrus and the Carpenter) is only part of the story, and the other part is a very subtle nod towards cloning.

[Serviceable Villain]

What I'm about to say is a stretch so I'll try to lay it out as coherently as possible.

I'm glad you brought up the walrus contradictions because I've put much thought into that as well, considering the sheer amount of times this figure has been brought up by the Beatles as well as the obvious Lewis Carroll connection...

I don't know why, but phrases "I am" and "I was" feel like they hold relevance. I can't say why.

Obviously the first time the walrus was mentioned, John sang "I AM the walrus." Yet, in the very first line John tells us that "I AM HE as you are he as you are me and we are all together."

This could be interpreted numerous ways...
A). John: "I am he, and HE is my counterpart, Paul. Therefore when I say 'I am the walrus' I'm speaking AS Paul... Paul is the walrus." But then why would John blatantly tell us in Glass Onion that the walrus was Paul, thus giving it away? I've also been curious as to the reason why this was referred to as a CLUE... Well, not just a clue, he called it "ANOTHER clue." Is anyone aware of fans searching for clues of any sort in Beatles music in 1968, especially those as (seemingly) insignificant as the identity of the walrus at that time???

B). "...we are all together" could mean literally that we all are the walrus, each Beatle is the walrus, or simply that the identity of the walrus is subject to change.

C). Maybe "I am he" is a reference to the Book of the Law. (Let him practise speaking backward; thus for "I AM HE" let him say, "eh ma i." Maybe in the song 'God' when John says "I was the walrus" he is really saying "Aiwass the walrus."

[B]

(thanks to iameye)


(thanks to skyward)


Small Faces en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Faces

"In places small faces abound" (8 Miles High - The Byrds)

I believe I see a standing man on the lower left hand side of the left leg of the "A". His head is where
the line divides the flowers. He appears to have breasts, so maybe it's a woman.
There is most certainly a small face in the bottom of the right-side stroke of the "A", being pointed at.
Also inside the arch of the A on the upper left hand side a possible face.

Look for somebody's mother standing in the shadow. ;D

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KVNI0_0jzo


bonus track!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwRLa_Zwzcg

[superman]

In 'I Am the Walrus' is the line 'man you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen POE...'

Poe WAS kicked, wasn't he? He was found drunk and beaten outside a bar in Baltimore. The bar, it turns out, was a so-called "crib" for fake votes. Drunks who entered the place were taken from polling place to polling place to cast phony multiple votes.

Baltimore was the home of his father's side of the family and he'd decided to visit there. But, being an alcoholic, he also needed to drink. And he unfortunately chose that particular bar and may have put up a fight when he was herded in with the other drunks to be sent around the polling places to cast the fraudulent votes.

Drunk, beaten and exposed to the elements, Poe was found not far from this bar. He was taken to a hospital and died four days later.

Not sure if this has anything at all to do with PID/PWR, but I find it interesting Poe may have been killed for not wanting to participate in an act where he would be forced to pretend to be more than one person in order to vote multiple times and sway the course of an election.

[superman]

Four from one?



Walrus gumboot

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF4J_YSzqjU

I was looking at the 2:08 of the MY BRAVE FACE video, and that immediately made me think of this.

Also, does anyone else think the Sgt. Pepper Suit in the tagged garment bag (at 2:46 and 2:53) looks like a body bag and a corpse's toe tag?

[B]

I can see where you might see it that way, but I don't think that is the intent of 'the message'
being sent. The "FRAGILE" sign at 2:58 is more of what was intended, imo, which is to say:
Paul, in a "fragile" condition, stepped out of the limelight.
But you could be right to read more into it.

[FAUllibLE]

If you have ever noticed the the three(Shirley) temples align. Now next month the jewish prophecy of March 16, 2010 where the third temple is to be rebuilt. I did another post on the the percentage of jews on the cover of peppers.
Apparently America's woes are due to not supporting the Third Temple.

[B]

Shirley that must be it.

See you guys Monday. Taking a break.

[plastic paul]

Jan 13, 2010 11:13:38 GMT -5 Serviceable Villain said:

I wish I had the actual LP cover because its hard to tell if anything really is embedded within the flowers or if they're just anomalies due to scanning.

Whilst I won't use this opportunity to speculate on individual interpretation, I can tell you it's all there.



LB, hope the stress of this place hasn't become to much, but enjoy your time away. Oh, and don't do anything I wouldn't do!

;D

[FAUllibLE]

Feb 18, 2010 20:55:45 GMT -5 B said:

Shirley that must be it.

See you guys Monday. Taking a break.

Have a great weekend and don't call me Shirley

[FAUllibLE]

Crowleys book 'The Temple of Solomon the King' could hold some keys.
The internet was absolutely abuzz with the CNN story last month about no other than the mysterious Supriem David Rockefeller helping rebuild the temple.


money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0583386.htm

Kinti Holdings Director, Supriem David Rockefeller, states the following, "Kinti Holdings will be raising funds to go towards building the Third Temple in Jerusalem with strict coordinance with The Temple Institute, Rabbi Chiam Richman and the Palestinian National Interest Committee (PNIC). In addition, we will be supporting Husam Bajis for President of Palestine. Prince Husam Bajis and the PNIC support our mission to build the Temple and to create a One Israel-Palestine state."

Lastly Frank Love states, "Kinti Holdings financial support of the Temple Institute has been under the name of Frank Love. Future financial support will be listed on the "Donors Wall" on the Temple Institute web site under the name Kinti Holdings as this better reflects our commitment to the rebuilding of the 3rd Temple.

[jarvitronics]

Argent Piper.

-j

[jarvitronics]

-j

[jarvitronics]

Salt and Pepper
Water and Land
Salt Lake and Pepper Land (by Jann Haworth):





Secret Blue Meanie temple handshake:






Behind temple doors:





-j

[iameye]

Jun 23, 2010 3:32:33 GMT -5 jarvitronics said:

Salt and Pepper
Water and Land
Salt Lake and Pepper Land (by Jann Haworth):






Behind temple doors:




-j

[jarvitronics]

Sgt. Pepper was released on June 1, signaling the end of the May suns (masons).

-j

[jarvitronics]

Jun 23, 2010 16:46:29 GMT -5 jarvitronics said:

Sgt. Pepper was released on June 1, signaling the end of the May suns (masons).

-j

Masonry is sub-lime:






This is sub-lemonal:



-j

[jarvitronics]

Jul 30, 2009 17:31:40 GMT -5 jarvitronics said:

"A good glass in the Bishop's Castle in the devil's seat...main branch seventh limb east side...shoot from the left eye of the death's head...a bee-line from the tree through the shot fifty feet out..."

"I let myself down to the ledge, and found that it was impossible to retain a seat upon it except in one particular position...I proceeded to use the glass...my attention was arrested by a circular rift or opening in the foliage of a large tree that overtopped its fellows in the distance. In the centre of this rift I perceived a white spot, but could not, at first, distinguish what it was. Adjusting the focus of the telescope, I again looked, and now made it out to be a human skull.

"Upon this discovery I was so sanguine as to consider the enigma solved; for the phrase 'main branch, seventh limb, east side,' could refer only to the position of the skull upon the tree, while 'shoot from the left eye of the death's-head' admitted, also, of but one interpretation, in regard to a search for a buried treasure. I perceived that the design was to drop a bullet from the left eye of the skull, and that a bee-line, or, in other words, a straight line, drawn from the nearest point of the trunk through 'the shot' (or the spot where the bullet fell...would indicate a definite point -- and beneath this point I thought it at least possible that a deposit of value lay concealed."

Stephen Crane peeks out from behind Paul and the palm. You can not see his jaw (mandible), only his cranium:





-j

[jarvitronics]

LOVE-craft...

High Priestess (H.P.)
Temple with Pomegranates:





Pomegranates:





Pomegranate Shirley Temple:





Pomme:





Granny-Stone (Granite) Shirley Temple:





Pomme-Granite Shirley-Temple:







-j

[iameye]

Jun 26, 2010 0:01:29 GMT -5 jarvitronics said:

LOVE-craft...

High Priestess (H.P.)
Temple with Pomegranates:





Pomegranates:





Pomegranate Shirley Temple:









-j

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Jun 25, 2010 18:43:09 GMT -5 jarvitronics said:

Jul 30, 2009 17:31:40 GMT -5 jarvitronics said:

"A good glass in the Bishop's Castle in the devil's seat...main branch seventh limb east side...shoot from the left eye of the death's head...a bee-line from the tree through the shot fifty feet out..."

"I let myself down to the ledge, and found that it was impossible to retain a seat upon it except in one particular position...I proceeded to use the glass...my attention was arrested by a circular rift or opening in the foliage of a large tree that overtopped its fellows in the distance. In the centre of this rift I perceived a white spot, but could not, at first, distinguish what it was. Adjusting the focus of the telescope, I again looked, and now made it out to be a human skull.

"Upon this discovery I was so sanguine as to consider the enigma solved; for the phrase 'main branch, seventh limb, east side,' could refer only to the position of the skull upon the tree, while 'shoot from the left eye of the death's-head' admitted, also, of but one interpretation, in regard to a search for a buried treasure. I perceived that the design was to drop a bullet from the left eye of the skull, and that a bee-line, or, in other words, a straight line, drawn from the nearest point of the trunk through 'the shot' (or the spot where the bullet fell...would indicate a definite point -- and beneath this point I thought it at least possible that a deposit of value lay concealed."

Stephen Crane peeks out from behind Paul and the palm. You can not see his jaw (mandible), only his cranium:





-j

Stephen Crane died of tuberculosis in a Black Forest sanatorium at the age of 28.