Jude
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Post by Jude on Dec 3, 2009 18:58:09 GMT -5
This being the case, the idea that a replacement Paul would also be sporting a scar isn't surprising at all. So to recap, we have a guy who - looks like Paul McCartney - plays bass like Paul McCartney - sings like Paul McCartney, and more importantly - talks just like Paul McCartney And to top it all off, he has Paul McCartney's scar. I really wonder how long some of you can suspend your disbelief: it's the same man! Whether there ever was a replacement or not, why can't you accept that pre-66 Paul McCartney didn't die, and in fact made many if not all post-66 public appearances as Paul McCartney?
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Post by superman on Dec 3, 2009 19:33:25 GMT -5
This being the case, the idea that a replacement Paul would also be sporting a scar isn't surprising at all. So to recap, we have a guy who - looks like Paul McCartney - plays bass like Paul McCartney - sings like Paul McCartney, and more importantly - talks just like Paul McCartney And to top it all off, he has Paul McCartney's scar. I really wonder how long some of you can suspend your disbelief: it's the same man! Whether there ever was a replacement or not, why can't you accept that pre-66 Paul McCartney didn't die, and in fact made many if not all post-66 public appearances as Paul McCartney? Maybe you're confusing me with someone else. I've never once stated that Paul McCartney "died". I believe that there surely have been replacements, but your comment gives me the impression that you believe I'm someone who has been strictly adamant in a belief that McCartney died or was killed.
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Post by Jude on Dec 3, 2009 22:21:09 GMT -5
If you don't believe McCartney dropped out of the scene completely, why do you insist that the person in the My Love video is not Paul? Does it need to look 100% like '66 McCartney for you to be satisfied, despite the video being filmed 7 years after the supposed replacement took place? Look at the photos of John during his "lost weekend" with May Pang in 1973, and then compare them with John as he appeared in How I Won the War. Does it not look just as much like a different person to you? And yet you call the person in this video a "parrot-nosed, cartoon-faced creature".
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Post by FP on Dec 4, 2009 1:21:53 GMT -5
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Post by superman on Dec 4, 2009 1:34:32 GMT -5
If you don't believe McCartney dropped out of the scene completely, why do you insist that the person in the My Love video is not Paul? Because it may be the game he plays. He's stated more than once that he likes to play with images and insert clues "to see people go crackers". Now whether or not this is simply the excuse given because of what the "Paul is Dead/Paul was Replaced" folks have spotted in the lyrics, album covers and videos ... or if he means exactly what he's saying ... well, that is what's up for debate. At least to me. Look at the intro to Magical Mystery Tour www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2qLjQbRv3w&feature=PlayList&p=EEF6560D8BE65297&index=0&playnext=1The "Paul" you see waving at 0:52 doesn't seem to be the same guy you see waving at 0:55. Why was this done? It's a mystery. A magical mystery ...
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Post by FP on Dec 4, 2009 1:58:38 GMT -5
The "Paul" you see waving at 0:52 doesn't seem to be the same guy you see waving at 0:55. Why was this done? It's a mystery. Why was this done? Don't skip to "why" if we haven't even covered "if". The face couldn't possibly be any more blurry. Not being the same guy in a blurry shot filmed at a distance can't be compared to not being the same guy who's face almost takes up the entire screen. I think that makes sense regardless of whether or not you believe there's any switching in the first place.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 4, 2009 11:30:54 GMT -5
[quote author=bbbchords board=general thread=5997 post=78118 time=1259907713]http://www.jamespaulmccartney.org/album64/cgi-bin/album.pl?photo=Album9/1stVisitDVD17.jpg Looks like our parrot-nosed friend made an appearance in 1964![/quote] Here's the "parrot nosed" Paul from 1964 that FP is referring to. This brings up the roundish nose/chin vs. the pointy nose/chin issue, as illustrated here. And here. So... Either there are multiple Pauls, or he/they want us to think that there are multiple Pauls. I'm still not 100% certain what the hell I think is going on regarding the scar, but I don't think it matters. In fact, the deeper I go, the higher I seem to fly. So to speak. What I mean is that I'm no longer even certain of something as fundamental as the existence/identity of an "original" JPM. I'm beginning to wonder if it's even useful for us to talk about an unequivocal, original JPM, as a separate and distinct individual from possible subsequent versions. Was there really a period of time when only ONE of him existed? Did that period of time encompass June 18, 1942 - September 11 (or November 9), 1966? If the above is true, was another Paul "born" at this time? Did the "original" die? Was the death real, or only symbolic? Is the pre-September 11, 1966 guy really the person we think of as JPM? Again, I really don't know the answers to these questions, but I AM certain that we're not here by accident, or because we're suffering from mass delusions. We are here because he/they WANT us to believe that there are multiple Pauls. It's really impossible at this point to dispute the fact that they have been using this to get our attention for over FOURTY YEARS. This deliberate leaving of the clues is more important, in my opinion, than the actual clues themselves. As Jarv indicated in his Pepper enigma thread, and as I've pointed to in that thread as well, this is about more than the scar, and the nose, and the chin, and the higher-pitched voice on Fool on the Hill. This is about them trying to get our attention in order to deliver a very important message. I believe that THAT message is that we are at the end of an age and that we need to be ready for the next one. And I'm not a religious freak. Hell, I'm not even religious AT ALL. But come on, people, these are the end times we're living in. Or at the very least they want us to THINK that they are. Wars and rumors of war?
CHECK.
Pestilence and disease?
CHECK.
The building of the third Temple?
COMING RIGHT UP.
www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=20063
The dividing of Jerusalem?
COMING RIGHT UP.
www.thejc.com/news/world-news/23229/eu-propose-dividing-jerusalem
One world Government?
OBAMA IS CURRENTLY CHAIRING THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL (which is unconstitutional, btw).
A great deceiver in power?
SEE ABOVE. As for our kid... Are there multiple Pauls? Maybe. Is he/are they gods? Maybe. Is he/are they prophets? YES. ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY. But stop getting bogged down with the clues. The clues are just a means to an end, and in this case, the "end" is the fact that we are at THE END, which is also a beginning. Does the love you've taken equal the love you've made? THAT really might be the most important point of all. P(D)
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Post by hotman637 on Dec 4, 2009 12:42:18 GMT -5
I think the reason they replaced Paul is NOT because of the end times. I think the reason is to show that they can do whatever they please and get away with it. They run the show and there is nothing we can do. Time will tell if that is true.
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Post by ramone on Dec 4, 2009 12:43:33 GMT -5
Maybe they wanted to see if the scar would generate conversations just like this one.
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Post by FP on Dec 4, 2009 13:17:17 GMT -5
Either there are multiple Pauls, or he/they want us to think that there are multiple Pauls. So you've completely ruled the possibility of there being one Paul who's face takes on a different appearance depending on lighting, and distance from the camera? I know it happens with pictures of me! www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3i9s9l9UUAThe Paul who's face is half-covered in shadow at 2:30 is the same guy with no shadow on his face laughing with Ringo at 0:49.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 4, 2009 14:50:36 GMT -5
Either there are multiple Pauls, or he/they want us to think that there are multiple Pauls. So you've completely ruled the possibility of there being one Paul who's face takes on a different appearance depending on lighting, and distance from the camera? I know it happens with pictures of me! www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3i9s9l9UUAThe Paul who's face is half-covered in shadow at 2:30 is the same guy with no shadow on his face laughing with Ringo at 0:49. FP Quoted this: "Either there are multiple Pauls, or he/they want us to think that there are multiple Pauls." and then said this: "So you've completely ruled the possibility of there being one Paul who's face takes on a different appearance depending on lighting, and distance from the camera?" To which I now respond: NO! I Do NOT rule out "the possibility of there being one Paul who's face takes on a different appearance depending on lighting, and distance from the camera". I will say what I mean again. Either there REALLY are multiple Pauls... ...or... ...they've been planting clues and stoking the rumors for 40 years in order to get us to look more closely, because there is a deeper mystery to be solved. I went into this deeper mystery in the post that you excerpted, and I've also gone into it in greater detail in the Sgt. Pepper Enigma thread. Again, this is about MUCH MORE than scars, and lighting and camera angles. None of that explains the mirrored Pepper bass drum message, or the fact that it connects to the 9/11 attacks, or the Metatron's Cube that can be drawn on the Pepper cover by connecting certain dots, and applying mathematics and geometry, or any number of the other clues that we've been following. THAT stuff doesn't happen by accident. Again, whether or not there are two Pauls is secondary to the fact that our investigation of that rumor, and the countless clues that go along with it, has opened up the rabbit hole to the hidden knowledge of spiritual awakening, and at this point in time, I believe that THAT was the point all along. They've been telling us the secrets of the world, but the only reason a lot of us looked in the first place was because of the PID/PWR rumor. And I'll go a step further and say that couching it that way is how they got away with telling us without being labeled as crazy loons, at the very least, or possibly getting killed, like Lennon right after talking publicly about the CIA's mind control program. The amount of esoteric knowledge I've gained from my trip down the rabbit hole is really quite extraordinary, and I never would have made the trip if it weren't for two things: 1. 9/11 2. The PID/PWR enigma. I believe that the world is run by people who have access to hidden knowledge. The Beatles, and Paul(s) specifically, have been subtly giving us access to that hidden knowledge. They couldn't come right out and say "hey everybody, the world is run by secret societies, but we're going to tell you all the stuff that you're not supposed to know next Wednesday night on the Smother's Brothers show." Instead, they hid the hidden knowledge in their art, and they concocted a huge public relations/marketing campaign known as Paul is Dead in order to get us to look. LOOK.
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Post by iameye on Dec 4, 2009 15:58:14 GMT -5
Well said Penny, across the board, well said.
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Post by iameye on Dec 4, 2009 15:59:29 GMT -5
Maybe they wanted to see if the scar would generate conversations just like this one. lol! ;D
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 4, 2009 16:54:26 GMT -5
Well said Penny, across the board, well said. Thanks, ma'am.
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Post by Jude on Dec 5, 2009 10:31:43 GMT -5
The "Paul" you see waving at 0:52 doesn't seem to be the same guy you see waving at 0:55. Why was this done? It's a mystery. A magical mystery ... Non-Youtube-quality snapshots: Do you still think it doesn't seen to be the same guy?
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Post by MikeNL on Dec 5, 2009 11:10:06 GMT -5
The "Paul" you see waving at 0:52 doesn't seem to be the same guy you see waving at 0:55. Why was this done? It's a mystery. A magical mystery ... Non-Youtube-quality snapshots: Do you still think it doesn't seen to be the same guy? well, you see, in the first picture he waves with his right hand and the second he waves with his left so it must be a second paul... even though they wear the same clothes. (changed in the bus) p.s; jude, i send you a message on youtube, but haven't gotten anything back yet. ; )
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Post by superman on Dec 6, 2009 3:40:31 GMT -5
The "Paul" you see waving at 0:52 doesn't seem to be the same guy you see waving at 0:55. Why was this done? It's a mystery. A magical mystery ... Non-Youtube-quality snapshots: Do you still think it doesn't seen to be the same guy? Still don't. Dare I say none of the Beatles look much like themselves either? Not that I notice a striking change in scenes, but the rest--George, Ringo and John don't look like themselves either in that waving scene. i wouldn't have noticed that if someone on one of these Paul forums hadn't pointed it out. I was simply focused on the Pauls.
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Post by MikeNL on Dec 6, 2009 6:35:52 GMT -5
Non-Youtube-quality snapshots: Do you still think it doesn't seen to be the same guy? Still don't LOL i think that's pretty darn funny.
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Post by hotman637 on Dec 6, 2009 16:09:21 GMT -5
Why DIDN'T they reveal all on the Smothers' Brothers Show? I think it is because they are compulsive liers. They can't stop lying even if they want. It's a huge problem. I am not sure how ro stop it. Any ideas?
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 6, 2009 16:41:42 GMT -5
Why DIDN'T they reveal all on the Smothers' Brothers Show? I think it is because they are compulsive liers. They can't stop lying even if they want. It's a huge problem. I am not sure how ro stop it. Any ideas? Did you miss this part? "They've been telling us the secrets of the world, but the only reason a lot of us looked in the first place was because of the PID/PWR rumor. And I'll go a step further and say that couching it that way is how they got away with telling us without being labeled as crazy loons, at the very least, or possibly getting killed, like Lennon right after talking publicly about the CIA's mind control program. "
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Post by GN on Dec 7, 2009 4:19:19 GMT -5
Good eye, FP. FP said: "And the scar does show up in the Revolution video; click HD and skip to 1:28:"FP also said: "His scar also isn't visible in his opening close up of Paperback Writer."And yet it's so prominent through most of the Let it Be performance... Hmmm. Perhaps it's lighting, mixed with the extent to which he was pursing his lips at any given moment. Or possibly a fake scar. Or.......<shudder>.........perhaps there is no Faul. To be continued. The one on the right (please scroll horizontally the image) was taken on August 1966 at Seattle and it is the last close up of the real Paul McCartney. That scar is not so noticeable.
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Post by The Deceptionist on Dec 7, 2009 10:47:56 GMT -5
So you've completely ruled the possibility of there being one Paul who's face takes on a different appearance depending on lighting, and distance from the camera? I know it happens with pictures of me! www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3i9s9l9UUAThe Paul who's face is half-covered in shadow at 2:30 is the same guy with no shadow on his face laughing with Ringo at 0:49. FP Quoted this: "Either there are multiple Pauls, or he/they want us to think that there are multiple Pauls." and then said this: "So you've completely ruled the possibility of there being one Paul who's face takes on a different appearance depending on lighting, and distance from the camera?" To which I now respond: NO! I Do NOT rule out "the possibility of there being one Paul who's face takes on a different appearance depending on lighting, and distance from the camera". I will say what I mean again. Either there REALLY are multiple Pauls... ...or... ...they've been planting clues and stoking the rumors for 40 years in order to get us to look more closely, because there is a deeper mystery to be solved. Again, this is about MUCH MORE than scars, and lighting and camera angles. None of that explains the mirrored Pepper bass drum message, or the fact that it connects to the 9/11 attacks, or the Metatron's Cube that can be drawn on the Pepper cover by connecting certain dots, and applying mathematics and geometry, or any number of the other clues that we've been following. THAT stuff doesn't happen by accident. Again, whether or not there are two Pauls is secondary to the fact that our investigation of that rumor, and the countless clues that go along with it, has opened up the rabbit hole to the hidden knowledge of spiritual awakening, and at this point in time, I believe that THAT was the point all along. The amount of esoteric knowledge I've gained from my trip down the rabbit hole is really quite extraordinary, and I never would have made the trip if it weren't for two things: 1. 9/11 2. The PID/PWR enigma. I believe that the world is run by people who have access to hidden knowledge. The Beatles, and Paul(s) specifically, have been subtly giving us access to that hidden knowledge. They couldn't come right out and say "hey everybody, the world is run by secret societies, but we're going to tell you all the stuff that you're not supposed to know next Wednesday night on the Smother's Brothers show." Instead, they hid the hidden knowledge in their art, and they concocted a huge public relations/marketing campaign known as Paul is Dead in order to get us to look. LOOK. you've hit the proverbial nail on the head there i think. i've thought for a long time now that the majority of the exoteric PID/PWR phenomenon could be seen as a red herring of sorts, bolstered by the inordinate amount of occult symbolism present, which obstructs (and then later reveals) its true intent. having followed these leads (thanks to notable vast input from certain members of this board and elsewhere) and grasped a better understanding of the involved esoteric concepts the entire thing makes much more sense as presented by (P)Denny (above). Also, strangely enough, many other avenues of my life pointed me down this same rabbit hole at near enough the same time. Funny how that works lol.
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Post by GN on Dec 8, 2009 9:00:27 GMT -5
I disagree with you, P(D)L. Turn the sound down on the video (I had to, I can't stand that song) and compare it with Faul at the piano on Get Back: same guy. If he had his face jerked around to look more like Paul, what's another little cut on the lip? The real pity of this song is that Linda sang background on it. It shows how cowed she was from early on in the relationship. JPM has the scar on his lip from the moped accident in December of 1965. The guy in the My Love video has the scar on his lip (see previous post for pic). The guy at the piano in "Let It Be" and "The Long and Winding Road" (You said Get Back, but Paul plays bass in the live performances of Get Back) has the scar on his lip. So... Logically... They are all the SAME PERSON. And since the scar is traceable to JPM, that makes all of these people JPM. Sorry. BTW, what makes you so sure that "the guy at the piano on Get Back" is anyone but JPM? Are we sure that it was Paul McCartney in the picture on the right? Or... Had Dino an attack instead Paul so he said "goodbye" as McCartney stand-in? Danelli presents a capped incisor too ... in the same place
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Post by hotman637 on Dec 8, 2009 15:34:29 GMT -5
They AREN'T "telling us the secrets of the world".If they were they would point out the fact that the world is run by a bunch of hillbilly aliens(or is it alien hillbillies?,lol). I guess your point is that they are secretly saying it. If that is true the only reason they keep it a secret is the alien hillbillies are liers,lol.
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Post by B on Dec 11, 2009 18:19:57 GMT -5
GN wrote:I agree with you on this one, GN. The guy on the right never looked much like Paul McCartney to me. I'm not saying he was Dino Danelli, but he could be just about anybody.
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