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Post by beacon on Aug 22, 2013 7:31:41 GMT -5
Some time ago, in a blog piece entitled The Beatles, the OTO, Terry Knight and Detroit I speculated that Terry Knight was responsible for seeding the Paul is Dead myth around the University campuses in and around Detroit from whence the phenomena first emerged. Well, I recently came across a new piece of evidence which, I believe, substantiates this. Before I get to this I feel a little recap is in order. For reasons unknown in 1968 Detroit DJ and musician Terry Knight sat in on a Beatles recording session for the White Album where he witnessed an argument that led to Ringo Starr walking out, temporarily, on the band. It seems apparent that Knight had travelled to London that year in order to bag a recording contract with the Beatles newly formed Apple records company, however, despite the fact that band were handing out contracts to anyone with a pulse at this stage, Knight was unsuccessful. Quite why then he should be in the incredibly fortunate position to have sat in on the recording session is a mystery, unless he had been selected for a higher purpose? Shocked, apparently, at what he had witnessed in the studio Knight would go away and pen a song entitled ‘Saint Paul’ with some rather cryptic lyrics which he maintained concerned his, brief, relationship with McCartney and his belief – in which he would be proven correct - that the Beatles would soon split. As we know, once the Paul is Dead myth emerged the lyrics would be assumed to be about Paul’s demise and form another strata in the layer of clues. Why the song should be about Paul though and not the clearly hurt and upset Ringo also remains a mystery. Having been blown out by Apple Knight would go on to land a 'producers' contract with the Beatles US label, Capitol, the following year, 1969, which allowed Knight to release solo material. Who he was producing and why Capitol didn’t just give him a recording artists contract is yet another, you guessed it, mystery. Using this contract, in April 1969, Knight released "Saint Paul" with its refrain of 'hey Paul' to the tune of "Hey Jude" as well as vocal lines from "Hello, Goodbye", "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" and "She Loves You" apparently without anyone at Capitol realising the potential copyright infringement. In time, this was noticed and the song would be re-issued as the only ‘non-Beatle’ song credited to Lennon and McCartney’s MacLen Music company. Nothing much happened until October 12th 1969, when a caller to WKNR-FM radio station in Detroit, Michigan from Eastern Michigan University announced that McCartney was dead and that the DJ should play the Beatles’ song "Revolution 9" backwards. The Detroit radio DJ, Russ Gibb, did as he was instructed and reported on the airwaves that he thought he heard phrases to the effect of, "turn me on, dead man." Soon, Gibb was telling his listeners what he had found and was also adding to the list of clues. Meanwhile, on October 14, 1969, college students at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor published a satirical review of The Beatles’ Abbey Road album in The Michigan Daily. This story stoked the "McCartney-is-dead" claim with "new evidence," offering various "clues," some supposedly found in any number of Beatles' songs and/or album covers. This story, in turn, was picked up by various newspapers across the U.S. and escalated nationally. So, where was Knight at this time? Only touring small venues and university campuses in Michigan! Now, here is where the new stuff comes in, on November 8, 1969, the advert below would appear in the American music journal Cash Box.  The previous day, November 7, 1969, the now famous Life magazine, in which McCartney was the cover star and would deny his demise, was published. Now how could Terry Knight and/or Capitol have known about the Life article if they weren’t intimately involved in the whole thing? To paraphrase the advert strapline, now I do understand its significance! Oh, and is that a lilly I see before me? |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 22, 2013 11:45:34 GMT -5
Why the song about Paul and not the dejected and upset Ringo?
Well, I suppose when maybe someone's illusions are broken about an idea or person, they don't point to that which showed the illusion to be false. They point at the illusion itself. You don't bitch about the water, or the horse, you just address that you can't lead him to water and make him drink. It's not the person, but the action. And if this is the Ringo walkout, then it's probably Paul that caused that walkout. He still takes credit to this day for the end drum solo on Dear Prudence, which as a musician, and one with a very good ear, I know that's not him. Because he can't even keep tempo on the simple portions of the song. So how he's going to stay in time for a solo without missing a beat, but be all over the place when the patterns are simple, I don't know. But I've heard him drumming on other things. He's not a drummer. He's your Uncle messing around on your drumkit in the garage. Cuz he used to play back in High School. He's that kind of drummer.
Lyrics transcribed by JoJo.
I looked into the sky
Everything was high
Higher than it seemed to be to me
Standing by the sea
Thinking I was free
Did I hear you call or was I dreaming then St. Paul..
You..knew it all along
Something had gone wrong
They couldn't hear your song of sadness in the air
While they were crying out beware
Your flowers and long hair
While you and Sgt Pepper saw the writing on the wall...
You saved one minute of your life to the future
They said you've got dues to pay today
You say it's a fool who plays it cool Sir
And if tomorrow comes you know they'll all hear St. Paul say..
Let me take you down down down down down down down down...
You had a different view
Hey there Paul what's new?
Did Judas really talk to you or did you put us on?
I think there's something wrong
It's taken you too long to change the world
Sir Isaac Newton said it had to fall
Hey St Paul...
(Hey Jude reprise instrumental for a bit)
You saved one minute of your life to the future
They said you've got dues to pay today
You say it's a fool who plays it cool Sir
And if tomorrow comes you know they'll all hear St. Paul say..
I read the news today oh boy...
(ADITL orchestra build)
You had a different view
Hey there Paul what's new?
Did Judas talk to you or did you put the whole world on?
I think there's something wrong
It's taken you too long to change the world
Sir Isaac Newton told you it would fall
You didn't listen St Paul..
Hey Jude reprise..
Na..na na na na na na na na...Hey Paul
Na..na na na na na na na na...Hey Paul
(repeats)
Background:
You say yes, I say no I say hi...
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
She loves you yeah yeah yeah
She loves you yeah yeah yeah
She loves you yeah yeah yeah
Love is all you need (13 times)
FIRST VERSE:
I looked into the sky
Everything was high
Higher than it seemed to be to me
Standing by the sea
Thinking I was free
Did I hear you call or was I dreaming then St. Paul..
There's your Illusion. Here's an idyllic existence presented. It's in the former, it is a past existence. The way things were.
The voice of St Paul calls, as a voice in agreeance with this vision? Someone who was connected to these same ideals, notions? A kindred spirit in this feeling? Perhaps. We know what was.
You..knew it all along
Something had gone wrong
They couldn't hear your song of sadness in the air
While they were crying out beware
Your flowers and long hair
While you and Sgt Pepper saw the writing on the wall...
Basically, what was, is all bullshit. St Paul apparently gave warning that all was not right.
St Paul that tries to warn them of its falseness. They were crying out beware of your flowers and long hair. Is this "The Establishment"? Then that means that whole ideal of the "hippie" was being pushed down or warned against by someone. Which the song states St Paul may have had forewarning of, or an I told you so about it. And with Sgt Pepper, the fortunes and fates are sealed. The writing's on the wall.
You saved one minute of your life to the future
They said you've got dues to pay today
You say it's a fool who plays it cool Sir
And if tomorrow comes you know they'll all hear St. Paul say..
Let me take you down
Saving away for a rainy day. But someone comes after him for payment today. No future. A quote from Hey Jude. There's a "will tomorrow come" angle here, again re-emphasising no future. A quote from Strawberry Fields Forever (a John song) - let me take you down to where nothing is real. Does anything matter? Does it matter if tomorrow comes? Is this what St Paul says? I'm getting the No Future trip here on this verse.
I read the news today oh boy...
You had a different view
Hey there Paul what's new?
Did Judas talk to you or did you put the whole world on?
I think there's something wrong
It's taken you too long to change the world
Sir Isaac Newton told you it would fall
You didn't listen St Paul..
A quote from Lennon's portion of A Day in the Life. Paul's different view is in the past tense. It's a once was. Narrator asks what's new. What's changed.
Judas turned Jesus over to Pilate's men. He's a traitor, but in Jesus's eyes, is only performing the function to which he is tasked. Jesus's fate is sealed regardless if it's Judas that does it, or someone else. The whole "Did Judas talk to you... " line is like, is this a lie? Did you fool everyone with your plan, your goal? What you're here for, or what you're supposed to mean to everyone? The narrator now expresses doubt. He doesn't even wait for an answer. He now thinks there's something wrong, all was for nothing, and gravity is forever present. His final answer is, St Paul didn't listen. Not to Judas, not to anyone. St Paul's a let down.
Interesting song. The most I get from it is disappointment in a vision held, that might have been false anyway. It's idealistic to begin with, then states St paul was aware of its illusion and tried to warn others. Then it turns out St Paul isn't what he seems, and really didn't say anything or listen to anything either. It's a total shattering of illusion, or thought previously held, even aspired to by the writer. It starts out serene, even somewhat naive. And by the end its bitter, rejected and somewhat even hopeless. Promise broken. But then again, was a promise ever made. I think that's the source of the writers frustration. There was a promise of something, but it turns out that promise ended up being just as much a lie, as those who promised it, and those chosen to deliver that promise. It's all bull.
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Post by beacon on Aug 23, 2013 5:29:45 GMT -5
The significance of this advert is less to do with the song itself but the timing of it. It appeared the day after this very famous edition of Life appeared.  Now, one could argue that having heard the fledgling Paul is Dead rumours that were coming out of his own state Terry Knight got in touch with Capitol and got them to place an ad that may induce a few more sales. But once the Life article appeared those rumours would have gone into overdrive and gone international and there is no way Knight could have known about the pending Life piece unless he was in the loop. Therefore, it is my contention that Knight was the guy who seeded the whole rumour. He and his band were playing gigs all over Michigan in October and November 1969 including many university campuses. This website here lists a gig played in Ann Arbor the very day the advert appeared and a university in Ann Arbor was one of the locations were the myth began, if memory serves correct. When the rumour originated one of the student callers to Russ Gibbs said he had heard the tale from 'some musicians' - Knight and his band! For me the associated text - now you understand its significance - and the use of a lilly in the advert further compounds my theory that Knights role was to seed the myth after the earlier attempt with the 'false rumour' article failed. The key now is understand why the rumour was started? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 6:38:34 GMT -5
Some time ago, in a blog piece entitled [a href="http://beaconfilms2011.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/beatles-oto-terry-knight-and-detroit.html" Quite why then he should be in the incredibly fortunate position to have sat in on the recording session is a mystery, unless he had been selected for a higher purpose?
Selected for a higher purpose. biblehub.com/matthew/27-51.htmThe hit single "I'm Your Captain (Closer to Home)", from the album Closer to Home, also released in 1970, was considered stylistically representative of Terry Knight and the Pack's recordings. The band spent $100,000 on a New York Times Square Willboard to advertise Closer to Home. In 1970, they sold more albums than any other American band and became a major concert attraction. By 1971, Grand Funk broke The Beatles' Shea Stadium attendance record by selling out in just 72 hours. 72 hours. Let's break that record today and make it 1hour. It can be done!  I'm your Captain. Getting Closer, closer. |
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Post by privyprincess on Aug 25, 2013 16:33:11 GMT -5
Terry Knight is an interesting name. According to www.sheknows.com/baby-names , Terry = Ruller of the People Knight = Noble or Soldier So, if his name fits him, Terry Knight is/was a noble ruler of the people's (minds) and, because of this, was given the task of implanting the thought of Paul being dead to college students in Michigan. And for completing this great task, his reward is 15 minutes of fame and one hit song? Seems like he could have gotten more, but hey, many would whisper in a few ears for less than that. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 25, 2013 16:49:46 GMT -5
Terry Knight is an interesting name. According to www.sheknows.com/baby-names , Terry = Ruller of the People Knight = Noble or Soldier So, if his name fits him, Terry Knight is/was a noble ruler of the people's (minds) and, because of this, was given the task of implanting the thought of Paul being dead to college students in Michigan. And for completing this great task, his reward is 15 minutes of fame and one hit song? Seems like he could have gotten more, but hey, many would whisper in a few ears for less than that. But he did get more. He's the mastermind behind the hugely successful Grand Funk Railroad. |
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 25, 2013 17:20:49 GMT -5
Terry Knight was murdered 1 November 2004 age 61.
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Post by linus on Aug 25, 2013 18:06:01 GMT -5
Terry Knight is an interesting name. According to www.sheknows.com/baby-names , Terry = Ruller of the People Knight = Noble or Soldier So, if his name fits him, Terry Knight is/was a noble ruler of the people's (minds) and, because of this, was given the task of implanting the thought of Paul being dead to college students in Michigan. Shepherd of wills |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 21:41:24 GMT -5
Terry Knight is an interesting name. According to www.sheknows.com/baby-names , Terry = Ruller of the People
Knight = Noble or SoldierSo, if his name fits him, Terry Knight is/was a noble ruler of the people's (minds) and, because of this, was given the task of implanting the thought of Paul being dead to college students in Michigan. And for completing this great task, his reward is 15 minutes of fame and one hit song? Seems like he could have gotten more, but hey, many would whisper in a few ears for less than that. But he did get more. He's the mastermind behind the hugely successful Grand Funk Railroad. lol  Remember you said so yourself! Selected for a higher purpose. biblehub.com/matthew/27-51.htmThe hit single "I'm Your Captain (Closer to Home)", from the album Closer to Home, also released in 1970, was considered stylistically representative of Terry Knight and the Pack's recordings. The band spent $100,000 on a New York Times Square Willboard to advertise Closer to Home. In 1970, they sold more albums than any other American band and became a major concert attraction. By 1971, Grand Funk broke The Beatles' Shea Stadium attendance record by selling out in just 72 hours.72 hours. Let's break that record today and make it 1hour. It can be done! I'm your Captain. Getting Closer, closer. |
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Post by duodamsel on Aug 26, 2013 12:55:06 GMT -5
Terry Knight was murdered 1 November 2004 age 61. Well that fairly creeps me out. I didn't know he was on that long list of people involved with the Beatles who didn't die a natural death |
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Post by privyprincess on Aug 26, 2013 15:56:05 GMT -5
Terry Knight is an interesting name. According to www.sheknows.com/baby-names , Terry = Ruller of the People Knight = Noble or Soldier So, if his name fits him, Terry Knight is/was a noble ruler of the people's (minds) and, because of this, was given the task of implanting the thought of Paul being dead to college students in Michigan. And for completing this great task, his reward is 15 minutes of fame and one hit song? Seems like he could have gotten more, but hey, many would whisper in a few ears for less than that. But he did get more. He's the mastermind behind the hugely successful Grand Funk Railroad. Ahh, I did not even know that. Thanks for the correction. Also, whoever mentioned Terry's murder made me start to wonder; once you're "in the know", you can't have loose lips. You can't even risk getting intoxicated/high and let anything slip. That must sorta suck. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 18:11:46 GMT -5
But he did get more. He's the mastermind behind the hugely successful Grand Funk Railroad. Ahh, I did not even know that. Thanks for the correction. Also, whoever mentioned Terry's murder made me start to wonder; once you're "in the know", you can't have loose lips. You can't even risk getting intoxicated/high and let a nything slip. That must sorta suck.
He's the mastermind behind the hugely successful Grand Funk Railroad.
Isn't all this an UNDERGROUND railroad?
your railroad?
railroad (n.)
1757, from rail (n.1) + road. Originally "road laid with rails for heavy wagons (in mining)." The process itself (but not the word) seems to have been in use by late 17c. Application to passenger and freight trains dates from 1825, though tending to be replaced in this sense in England by railway.
main line (n.)
"principal line of a railway," 1841; meaning "affluent area of residence" is by 1917, originally (with capitals) that of Philadelphia, from the "main line" of the Pennsylvania Railroad which added local stops to a string of backwater towns west of the city late 19c. that helped turn them into fashionable suburbs.
The Main Line, Philadelphia's most famous suburban district, was deliberately conceived in the 1870's and 1880's by the [Pennsylvania] Railroad, which built high-toned housing developments, ran hotels, more or less forced its executives to plunk their estates out there, and created a whole series of somewhat spurious Welsh towns along the railroad tracks. ... Now everybody assumes these all date from 1682, like the Robertses; but as Chestnut Hill people like to say, "nobody but Welsh peasants lived on the Main Line till the Railroad built it up." [Nathaniel Burt, "The Perennial Philadelphians," 1963][/i[
Can I get a witness?
Some KIND of Wonderful!
yes, she is!
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Post by beacon on Sept 25, 2013 6:43:17 GMT -5
Some issues about this concern me and I am wondering about a few points.  the top image is a wire picture sent out on October 22 1969 to deny reports of Paul's death. In it he has considerably longer hair than on the cover of Life. Obviously the wire picture may not have been totally recent, but, it implies it is of him in London. I am wondering when the Life interview was conducted? It appeared on November 7, 1969, and I am reliably informed that it would have had to have happened at least eight days prior to have made the issue, so 29/30 October? Likewise, the traditional reports of the time imply that McCartney was in Scotland for the duration of this event. Was he in London or Scotland? Beatles Bible website implies he travelled to Scotland on the 22nd, however, it does not say from where. I am wondering though if the Life interview may have been done quite some time before, knowing that the media shitstorm was about to hit and so having the oppposite spin already in the bag. Does anyone know the date of the interview? Another reason for my thinking is that in this film footage of reporters harrassing McCartney at his farm he has a well developed beard which is not present in either the wire photo or the Life cover. Now, presumably, this all happened around the same time. Does anyone have a date for this film footage? Also, does anyone know if Terry Kinght's Saint Paul single was re-issued in November 69. If not, then what was the purpose of the Cash Box ad, as, I am guessing, the single would have been out of print by then? |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Sept 25, 2013 9:45:10 GMT -5
If you've ever heard that American broadcast of an interview with Paul McCartney about his death, where he says he's on a farm in Scotland --- that has NEVER sounded to me like Paul McCartney speaking. It sounds like someone faking a Liverpool accent. I just heard it again the other day and I always laugh at how unlike McCartney this person sounds. The American broadcaster ends with "Thank you Mr.McCartney." I'll have to see if I stumble across this audio clip again.
I replied about the Terry Knight story in another thread, which I did say, this belongs here as well.
Check out the story of Terry Knight and Grand Funk Railroad if you find time. Knight as an inside man makes tons of sense because the man was not honourable or ethical in any way. He was a ............ (fill in your worst word) Following Terry Knight brought me to NEMPEROR records and the death of Tommy Bolin (Deep Purple) and the realisation that Jimmy McCulloch sought to join The James Gang around 1974/1975, but the McCartneys got word of it and put a stop to it. The reaosn he wanted to leave Wings was because he'd been there a year and hadn't been paid, they weren't working, they weren't performing. NOTHING. And you will find many members of Wings stating they were dirt broke their entire time in the band. Denny Seiwell makes some very open comments about it and his financial situation being in Wings for almost 2 years. McCartney paid them nothing, and Seiwell makes the comment that you think he would've learned after being in The Beatles about things, but obviously not. The Apple court receivership is blamed for being the reason McCartney can't pay them anything.
But a number of years ago there was an online source documenting the Beatles careers POST-Breakup. And through the years 1971 - 1974, you find McCartney spending money he just doesn't have. By 1974 he's earned £30,000 but spent £250,000. He then changes the company name to MPL (which it retains to this day.) But what money he has barely excuses why he had these musicians and their families live on that shithole of a farm in Scotland! Have you seen pictures of that place??? It's not fit for animals!
Do check out the story of Terry Knight/GFR. You'll find he was just as nasty as any Peter Grant or Allen Klein.
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Post by beacon on Sept 25, 2013 10:05:55 GMT -5
If you've ever heard that American broadcast of an interview with Paul McCartney about his death, where he says he's on a farm in Scotland --- that has NEVER sounded to me like Paul McCartney speaking. It sounds like someone faking a Liverpool accent. I just heard it again the other day and I always laugh at how unlike McCartney this person sounds. The American broadcaster ends with "Thank you Mr.McCartney." I'll have to see if I stumble across this audio clip again. Yeah, I use that clip at the end of my latest video. I believe it was Tony Bramwell impersonating McCartney. |
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Post by beacon on Sept 27, 2013 8:04:16 GMT -5
Do check out the story of Terry Knight/GFR. You'll find he was just as nasty as any Peter Grant or Allen Klein. Yes, you are right he certainly screwed them over. Here is a bit more detail, from Knight, about how Saint Paul came to be... Extract from Terry Knight interview. PSF: Do you recall meeting McCartney [in 1968]?
TK: Yes, I recall meeting McCartney very well. We first met in Detroit and shared a brief hello. Later, he called me to England, Apple bought me a plane ticket, he invited me to sing. We had lunch in London with Linda and Twiggy, Roger Moore and Peter Sellers - and then I went to the studio where Yoko and Ringo and everyone else was assembled. It was the session where it was over [Ringo walked out during White Album sessions]. I went back to New York empty-handed and wrote the song "Saint Paul" on the flight.
PSF: Are you aware that the song is credited with starting the "Paul-is-dead" rumor?
TK: [Smile.] Oh, yes, I've heard that before. Here we get a slightly different version... While down in Florida for a gig, Knight began hanging out with the gorgeous
young waif of a British model known as Twiggy. She was the apex of mod
Sixties fashion in swinging London, the toast of Carnaby Street, and Knight
(of course) was smitten. Twiggy, who was quickly developing into an actress
and performer to go along with her modeling career, knew all the cool people
in London, and she took a liking to this guy Terry Knight.
"Twiggy put me on tour with her, to warm up the audience with a few songs
with the guitar," he recalled. "And then they’d introduce her, on this great
Revlon [cosmetics] U.S. tour, when she was at her peak. One night I was in a
hotel room in Miami, singing these songs. And she just fell in love with the
songs - and me, I guess. We never had a romantic relationship, but we were
very, very close."
"The following day," Knight recalled, "Justin, her manager and boyfriend,
came in the room and said, "You have a long distance call from England. You
better come and take it - it's in my room." So I raced to his room, pick it
up: "Hello" [Knight doing proper British accent]: "Terry Knight?"
[Knight]: "Yeah?" [English guy]: "This is Paul McCartney." [Knight]: "Yeah,
who the fuck is it, really?"
"Anyway, it was Paul," Knight said. "Twiggy had recently discovered an
unknown girl named Mary Hopkin. Mary had done a wonderful record for Paul
called "Those Were The Days." And she had discovered James Taylor, by the
way, for Apple. Paul was told by Twiggy that he dare not miss the opportunity
to sign Terry Knight!"
"Just as Paul stated on the phone, there was an airline ticket [reserved for
Terry Knight], first-class, to and from London, England," Knight said. "I
got to England just as The Beatles broke up. I was actually present at the
studio the night the whole shit fell apart."
The time period would naturally have to be late 1968, during the time The
Beatles were finishing up recording of The White Album, when the group very
nearly did break up, before coming back together for another year or so.
Ringo had walked out on the others, apparently right before Knight arrived in
London. Terry also mentioned that he recalled seeing Bob Dylan hanging around
the studio with the remaining Beatles.
"Before flying back," Knight said, "I learned Graham Nash had just left The
Hollies. Tony Hicks of The Hollies came over to Ringo's flat, where I was
staying, and offered me Graham's job, with The Hollies. I turned it down."
"I did not want to be a frontman anymore, ever," Knight said. "The
experience with The Pack was so devastating to me, going through egos was
just not part of my plan again - unless I was in control of them. So I said
no politely, thanked him, and came back to America."
The ironic thing was that, after McCartney had summoned Knight to London,
paid for his trip and arranged for him to be put up at Ringo's flat, he
didn't even have time to see Knight. The problems The Beatles were
experiencing right at that moment precluded McCartney from considering what
talents Knight might have to offer Apple Records.
On that TWA flight back from England, Knight said, "I wrote a song, which
I recorded myself for Capitol, called "Saint Paul." It was about McCartney.
I went back to Cleveland to record it, and used the entire Cleveland Symphony
Orchestra. My buddy, Joe Walsh, sat in on the session. Anyway, that's how
Paul and I met. I met Ringo in Detroit, and George in Detroit, but was never
really close or friendly with either of them."
"Saint Paul" is a Beatles curio, to be sure, and perhaps the most
interesting record that Terry Knight made as a singer. (It was also one of
his final attempts to make it as a vocalist.) Capitol did release it, and
apparently Paul didn't mind being the subject of the song, but he did mind
that Terry had borrowed melodies and/or recognizable passages and lyrics
from various Beatles songs, which included "Hey Jude," "Strawberry Fields,"
"A Day In The Life," "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds," "All You Need Is
Love" and even "She Loves You".
And hereTwiggy and her manager, Justin De Villeneuve, persuaded Terry to record once again and invited him back to London to meet Paul McCartney. Terry remembers it this way, "When I arrived in England, I found Paul tied up preparing arrangements for Mary Hopkin's new Lp and was much too busy to go into serious discussion at the time." Interestingly enough, it was Twiggy who had brought Mary Hopkin to Apple after seeing her on a British TV program. Before Terry had left for England, Capitol Records had contacted him, inquiring about his availability as a recording artist. "They came up with some very interesting proposals but I felt that I owed it to myself and to Twiggy to follow up her lead first."Not sure how much I believe, but, interesting none the less. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 8:17:49 GMT -5
Sept 19, 2013 21:49:05 GMT -4 lucy said:
I looked into the sky Everything was high
Higher than it seemed to be to me
Standing by the sea Thinking I was free
Did I hear you call or was I dreaming then St. Paul ?
You knew it all along Something had gone wrong
They couldn't hear your song of sadness in the Air while they were crying out beware
Your flowers and long hair
While you and Sgt Pepper saw the writing on the wall.
You saved me one minute of your life to the future They said they've got dues to pay today
You say it's a fool who plays it cool Sir
And if tomorrow comes you know they'll all hear St. Paul say..
Let me take you down down down down down down down down...
You had a different view
Hey there Paul what's new?
Did Judas really talk to you or did you put us on?
I think there's something wrong It's taken you too long to change the world
Sir Isaac Newton said it had to fall Hey St Paul.
You saved one minute of your life to the future
They said they've got dues to pay today You say it's a fool who plays it cool Sir
And if tomorrow comes you know they'll all hear St. Paul say..
I read the NEWS today oh boy...
You had a different view
Hey there Paul what's new?
Did Judas talk to you or did you put the whole world on?
I think there's something wrong It's taken you too long to change the world
Sir Isaac Newton told you it would fall
You didn't listen St Paul..
Na..na na na na na na na na...Hey Paul
Na..na na na na na na na na...Hey Paul
You say yes, I say no I say hi...
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
She loves you yeah yeah yeah
She loves you yeah yeah yeah
She loves you yeah yeah yeah
Love is All you need
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Post by beacon on Sept 27, 2013 8:33:54 GMT -5
Do check out the story of Terry Knight/GFR. You'll find he was just as nasty as any Peter Grant or Allen Klein.  Interesting quote from here"I never made more than that group,"Knight said. "That's the most ludicrous, insane statement anybody could ever make. And the courts proved it. You know, most managers today make upwards of 25 per cent. My commission was only 15 per cent, after all expenses. Not off the top."
"Now, let's talk about the split for the record, shall we? When they call me from New England, broke, no money to buy Wheaties, I wire them money and bring them back home," Knight said. 'And I get them drums from Ludwig, because they didn't have any, I get them guitars from Steve Marriott [of Humble Pie], 'cause they didn't have any, okay? They [had] hocked theirs. They didn't have shit. And now," Knight said, "I make a record, and I get the money, only because Terry Knight was known. You have to keep in mind that Terry Knight was a recording artist and wellknown personality before Grand Funk learned to go poo--poo."
"It was my money bringing 'em back from Cape Cod, my money getting them instruments, my money paying for the trips to the Atlanta Pop Festival and the Texas Pop Festival, my dollars that paid streets and flying to New York mid Califomia, twice to every record company in the business." "It was my influence on Mauri Lathower at Capitol Records which got 'em accepted," Knight continued 'And it was my popularity and reputation that got them air play - and they have the audacity to take offense?"
"They didn't record for Capitol Records," Knight again pointed out. "They never signed with Capitol Records. They signed to me, to Good Knight Productions. Do you know of any record company that makes less than the artist? I mean, certainly Capitol made more than The Beatles." "The fact is that I was also their mentor, their manager, their publisher, as well as being their producer, and in effect the record Company. You know, you pay a producer normally, like they paid Todd Rundgren, and Frank Zappa.
They forget what a great little deal they had with me they got .Terry Knight as part of the bargain, who produced all those multi-platinum albums for them, the ones that are still selling," Knight said. Terry Knight looked out the window onto the sunny patio area outside the door of his comfortable home. Certain things, certain thoughts, about the past can rile him, and did. But he prefers to think about his life now, and is happy in his role as a single parent Terry mused, "Everybody has an ego".
That's a psychiatric fact. But not everybody has a superego. That's a rare gift.
"I think the people that I know recognized it, like I did, at an early age. To have recognized it back then makes me more grateful than you'll know. Because it's what gave me the incentive to be able to believe the absurdity that there wasn't a day when I wasn't in control.
But that doesn't mean that I was in control," Knight explained, "I just believed I was in control. You can be humble, you can be shy, you can be anything you want to be," Knight said "You'll just have to believe that you are in complete control. As long as you believe you control it, you can't get a bad answer" |
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Post by beacon on Sept 27, 2013 8:53:25 GMT -5
From the Washington PA, Observer-Reporter October 31, 1973  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 9:06:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 9:10:03 GMT -5
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Sept 28, 2013 8:52:25 GMT -5
"And it was my popularity and reputation that got them air play - and they have the audacity to take offense?"
This guy. Talk about ego. If you look or even listen to Grand Funk Railroad THEY WERE A GREAT BAND. There is every reason to believe they gave Led Zeppelin cause to worry, they were tighter, more energy, and better musicians across the board (apart from John Paul Jones). How truly famous was Terry Knight back in 1969? Really? Household name?
There's another matter of contention with the "fame" of Mary Hopkin. She wasn't undiscovered in other countries. She just hadn't hit it in the UK, but she was very popular in other parts of Europe before Apple ever came along. People are funny like that about "discovery." And the "I made yous, or I made them what they were." Everybody gets a slice. Grand Funk Railroad stated they earned $350 a week as "pay." They were selling out stadiums in a matter of hours. No matter how big a billboard Terry Knight rents out, if the band sucks, it's not going to help. But GFR did not suck whatsoever. They jammed.
They were the first band to have back to back multi-platinum albums in a row. So why are they earning $350 a week? And why is Knight investing in oil drills. It's a classic tale of managers screwing over the artist. Like Jimi Hendrix's manager. Divesting mass quantities of money down into the Bahamas. But we know what happened to Jimi.
When a record company strikes a million dollar deal, you don't get that money. That money is a loan. It goes into financing your studio time, your advertising, your tour, your equipment. We will give you XXXXXX amount for this many albums. And this money is a loan. You owe us this money back. Should your albums not sell to our expectations, we will let you out of your contract, but you will still be in massive debt to us. Everything we show the public on television or through media is a LIE. It's all a front to create an image that musicians are successful and thriving, when really they end up dog tired, deep in debt, drug ridden and just as much on the treadmill as anyone working a 9 to 5 office job.
Terry Knight was just as bad as Klein or Grant. But worse in a degree because he was a musician and knew the guys in Grand Funk Railroad personally. He used to be in a band with them. Well of course before he became this household name in his own mind.
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