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Post by thatisgroovyman on Mar 12, 2016 22:55:48 GMT -5
This is the place where we attempt to create a timeline as to what happened to Paul McCartney and possibly when. Heres mine to start it off. Most of these things were created in my head based on: Iamaphoney (very evident in this timeline), 60if (taken only with a pinch of salt), Beatles Bible timeline (as a reference to what happened within in each date that's been covered), 'The Story' from NIR forums, Braverman's Condensed Cream of The Beatles, and TKIN forums (the one about Paul in Seattle).
Here goes:
"Paul is Dead" Timeline:
August 25th- Paul is kidnapped along with two female companions and taken hostage in Seattle after two shows and a press conference.
August 26th- The rest of The Beatles wait for Paul in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills. 'Blue Jay Way' might be based on this event.
August 27th- Rest of The Beatles hire one of their old doppelgängers for Paul while Brian arranges to search for him.
August 28th- The Beatles perform live at Dodger Stadium at Elysian Park Avenue in Los Angeles.
August 29th- The Beatles hold their final official live concert at Candlestick Park, San Francisco.
September 5th, 1966- John takes the role of Private Gripweed in Richard Lester's "How I Won The War."
September- Brian finds Paul in France, inside a derelict house. Brian attempts to rescue Paul from his kidnappers in a car chase. Paul drives off a pier, where he, Brian and his car land into the sea. Paul and Brian get pulled out of the water by a rescue helicopter. Paul is left badly injured, and requires a temporary stand-in.
September 10th- The whole incident is retold in cartoon-form during The Beatles' weekly cartoon series.
September 11th- Paul decides that he's leaving The Beatles
September 11th- Brian announces that The Beatles would not resume live touring further.
September 12th- During a broadcast of The Monkees, it is announced "one of The Beatles" got into a car accident.
September 16th- John visits Paul and Brian in France.
September- Paul is sent to Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital in order to be operated for reconstructive facial surgery.
September- Paul falls severely ill in hospital due to an infected injection.
September 26th- After finding out about Paul's health, Brian Epstein overdoses on prescription drugs due to mental exhaustion and stress issues. Is hospitalized in a London clinic.
October 3rd, 1966- Paul McCartney is violently murdered in hospital by Tavistock agents for refusing to go on with The Beatles and the MK-Ultra Program.
October 3rd 1966- Knowing that a look-a-like is to be hired, Brian gets out of hospital and announces, almost vigorously and unwillingly that Paul has not left The Beatles, despite rumours of Paul splitting up with The Beatles (or dying in a car crash).
October- A local Paul McCartney look-a-like contest is held in England, and Bill Shepherd wins the contest. Pictures of him bandaged up pre-facial surgery appear in some English newspapers. These photos no longer circulate.
Three alternative sound-a-likes receive the opportunity to record with The Beatles. These three sound-a-likes are heard frequently in 'Magical Mystery Tour' and 'Penny Lane.' These three sound-a-likes continue to record with The Beatles until 'Abbey Road.'
October 14th- Bill is sent to Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital to receive facial plastic surgery along with Mal Evans.
October- Bill goes through an occult ritual in order to summon the soul of Paul into his body. Instead, Bill becomes a reincarnation of Aleister Crowley.
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Mar 13, 2016 9:41:48 GMT -5
Anyone want to weigh in on this? Maybe highlight some areas for improvement, maybe? Does anyone want to sumbit their own reasonings for such events?
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Post by ramone on Mar 13, 2016 10:04:11 GMT -5
Well, it'd be quite the movie.
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Mar 13, 2016 10:20:47 GMT -5
Well, it'd be quite the movie. You could say that again! There's just so much things out there concerning P.I.D., and this was attempt to salvage quite a bit of it into one, quite unrealistic timeline.
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Post by B on Mar 13, 2016 10:49:46 GMT -5
Well it does 'cover all the bases', so to speak. I applaud your detective work.
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Mar 13, 2016 15:29:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the kind words, B:
This updated timeline is called the: "Paul is replaced" timeline, AKA "The Beatles fooled Tavistock." It is not limited to the assumption <---- that Paul 'died', but was rather replaced due to troubling circumstances. He still appeared in various Beatles recordings. Before you read any further, remember that the truth is stranger than fiction (as Iamaphoney seems to suggest with his immaculately cryptic videos, that work more as a 'Da Vinci Code' than an actual foretelling of 'The Truth.' Whatever 'The Truth' is!)
Here it goes:
"Paul is Dead" Timeline:
August 25th- Paul is kidnapped along with two female companions and taken hostage in Seattle after two shows and a press conference.
August 26th- The rest of The Beatles wait for Paul in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills. 'Blue Jay Way' might be based on this event.
August 27th- Rest of The Beatles hire one of their old 'temporary' doppelgängers for Paul while Brian arranges to search for him.
August 28th- The Beatles perform live at Dodger Stadium at Elysian Park Avenue in Los Angeles.
August 29th- The Beatles hold their final official live concert at Candlestick Park, San Francisco.
September 5th, 1966- John takes the role of Private Gripweed in Richard Lester's "How I Won The War."
September- Brian finds Paul in France, inside a derelict house. Brian attempts to rescue Paul from his kidnappers in a car chase. Paul drives off a pier, where he, Brian and his car land into the sea. Paul and Brian get pulled out of the water by a rescue helicopter. Paul is left badly injured, and requires a temporary stand-in.
September 10th- The whole incident is retold in cartoon-form during The Beatles' weekly cartoon series.
September 11th- Paul decides that he's leaving The Beatles
September 11th- In distress due to the decision Paul is opting out of the band, Brian announces that The Beatles would not resume live touring further, in hopes of permanently replacing Paul with a body double for a long-term period
September 12th- During a broadcast of The Monkees, it is announced "one of The Beatles" got into a car accident.
September 16th- John visits Paul and Brian in France. Attempts to convince Paul to resume with The Beatles.
September- Paul is sent to Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital in order to be operated for reconstructive facial surgery.
September 26th- After being proven unsuccessful in auditioning/finding a body double/sound-a-like for Paul, Brian Epstein overdoses on prescription drugs due to mental exhaustion. Is hospitalized in a London clinic.
October- Paul McCartney is violently attacked in hospital by Tavistock agents for refusing to resume his career with The Beatles. Paul is left for dead. Tavistock assumes Paul is dead.
October- Paul is in critical condition, but alive.
October- Brian Epstein and John Lennon create 'Paul is dead' in order to fool Tavistock that Paul passed away.
October- A final Paul McCartney look-a-like contest is held in England, and Bill Shepherd wins the contest. Pictures of him bandaged up pre-facial surgery appear in some English newspapers. These photos no longer circulate.
Three alternative sound-a-likes receive the opportunity to record with The Beatles in order to help Bill sound similar to Paul. These three sound-a-likes are heard frequently in 'Magical Mystery Tour' and 'Penny Lane.' The sound-a-likes continue to record with The Beatles until 'Abbey Road.'
October 14th- Bill is sent to Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital to receive facial plastic surgery along with Mal Evans.
<---- A note to posters: Some people may still be using the old Windows XP version that stretches posts according to how long a sentence is. Please use the arrow above as a guide to indicate about where you should go to the next line when posting. Thanks! B
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Post by Red Lion on Mar 13, 2016 16:18:41 GMT -5
Well, it'd be quite the movie. Lol!!
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Post by ramone on Mar 13, 2016 16:36:15 GMT -5
And though she feels as if she's in a play She is anyway
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Mar 13, 2016 16:47:43 GMT -5
And though she feels as if she's in a play She is anyway Well, weren't The Beatles "a play" with actors, as Silversong suggested. I don't buy the fact there wasn't an "original" John, George, Paul and Ringo. Of course there were! But The Beatles also had a crazy amount of trained body doubles, something I do buy into. Even George 'joked about it' on a Dick Cavett interview. Later during that segment/interview, George performed a number called "Two Faced Man" with a band called 'Gary Wright and The Wonder Wheel." The title "Two Faced Man" and George's jokes about sending "dummies to India with wigs" and his cryptic comments about "the 18th Beatles" are more than enough to speak for themselves...
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Post by ramone on Mar 13, 2016 18:27:37 GMT -5
As someone I know would say:
Shenanigans! Some type of shenanigans goin on -
shenanigans! shenanigans! shenanigans!
Wahoooooooooooooo!!!!!
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Post by ramone on Mar 13, 2016 18:57:17 GMT -5
Meanwhile, back at base camp,
Johnny an' Shlock break out the hand lens - to see what can be seen. from the outsides of sides to the scene in between.
There are clues there are clues are they trues or a ruse?
But WHY are there clues, just to muse or amuse?
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Post by superman on Mar 16, 2016 11:50:31 GMT -5
Meanwhile, back at base camp, Johnny an' Shlock break out the hand lens - to see what can be seen. from the outsides of sides to the scene in between. There are clues there are clues are they trues or a ruse? But WHY are there clues, just to muse or amuse? excuse?
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Mar 16, 2016 12:16:12 GMT -5
Maybe Paul didn't die, and any of the Beatles weren't permanently replaced. Maybe they just had body doubles for security purposes, and nothing more. Maybe 'Paul is Dead' is misinterpreted by all of us. As 'jarface' suggested in the 'Sgt. Pepper's Enigma Thread', Paul was just playing the role of the dead man/death's skull on the Sgt. Pepper's album cover, as per Poe's Goldbug, so we could locate the treasure on the album cover (Paul's heart). The Beatles used/hired doubles since '63, but that necessarily didn't mean any of them die.
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Post by chica on Mar 16, 2016 21:18:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the kind words, B: This updated timeline is called the: "Paul is replaced" timeline, AKA "The Beatles fooled Tavistock." It is not limited to the assumption <----that Paul 'died', but was rather replaced due to troubling circumstances. He still appeared in various Beatles recordings. Before you read any further, remember that the truth is stranger than fiction (as Iamaphoney seems to suggest with his immaculately cryptic videos, that work more as a 'Da Vinci Code' than an actual foretelling of 'The Truth.' Whatever 'The Truth' is!) Here it goes: "Paul is Dead" Timeline: August 25th- Paul is kidnapped along with two female companions and taken hostage in Seattle after two shows and a press conference. August 26th- The rest of The Beatles wait for Paul in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills. 'Blue Jay Way' might be based on this event. August 27th- Rest of The Beatles hire one of their old 'temporary' doppelgängers for Paul while Brian arranges to search for him. August 28th- The Beatles perform live at Dodger Stadium at Elysian Park Avenue in Los Angeles. August 29th- The Beatles hold their final official live concert at Candlestick Park, San Francisco. September 5th, 1966- John takes the role of Private Gripweed in Richard Lester's "How I Won The War." September- Brian finds Paul in France, inside a derelict house. Brian attempts to rescue Paul from his kidnappers in a car chase. Paul drives off a pier, where he, Brian and his car land into the sea. Paul and Brian get pulled out of the water by a rescue helicopter. Paul is left badly injured, and requires a temporary stand-in. September 10th- The whole incident is retold in cartoon-form during The Beatles' weekly cartoon series. September 11th- Paul decides that he's leaving The Beatles September 11th- In distress due to the decision Paul is opting out of the band, Brian announces that The Beatles would not resume live touring further, in hopes of permanently replacing Paul with a body double for a long-term period September 12th- During a broadcast of The Monkees, it is announced "one of The Beatles" got into a car accident. September 16th- John visits Paul and Brian in France. Attempts to convince Paul to resume with The Beatles. September- Paul is sent to Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital in order to be operated for reconstructive facial surgery. September 26th- After being proven unsuccessful in auditioning/finding a body double/sound-a-like for Paul, Brian Epstein overdoses on prescription drugs due to mental exhaustion. Is hospitalized in a London clinic. October- Paul McCartney is violently attacked in hospital by Tavistock agents for refusing to resume his career with The Beatles. Paul is left for dead. Tavistock assumes Paul is dead. October- Paul is in critical condition, but alive. October- Brian Epstein and John Lennon create 'Paul is dead' in order to fool Tavistock that Paul passed away. October- A final Paul McCartney look-a-like contest is held in England, and Bill Shepherd wins the contest. Pictures of him bandaged up pre-facial surgery appear in some English newspapers. These photos no longer circulate. Three alternative sound-a-likes receive the opportunity to record with The Beatles in order to help Bill sound similar to Paul. These three sound-a-likes are heard frequently in 'Magical Mystery Tour' and 'Penny Lane.' The sound-a-likes continue to record with The Beatles until 'Abbey Road.' October 14th- Bill is sent to Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital to receive facial plastic surgery along with Mal Evans. <---- A note to posters: Some people may still be using the old Windows XP version that stretches posts according to how long a sentence is. Please use the arrow above as a guide to indicate about where you should go to the next line when posting. Thanks! B
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Post by chica on Mar 16, 2016 21:20:11 GMT -5
Hello thatisgroovyman, Where did the information come from that Paul was kidnapped?
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Post by sniffer on Mar 17, 2016 4:23:34 GMT -5
Maybe Paul didn't die, and any of the Beatles weren't permanently replaced. Maybe they just had body doubles for security purposes, and nothing more. Maybe 'Paul is Dead' is misinterpreted by all of us. As 'jarface' suggested in the 'Sgt. Pepper's Enigma Thread', Paul was just playing the role of the dead man/death's skull on the Sgt. Pepper's album cover, as per Poe's Goldbug, so we could locate the treasure on the album cover (Paul's heart). The Beatles used/hired doubles since '63, but that necessarily didn't mean any of them die. Actually for years I was convinced that this was indeed the case: They hired doubles, Paul's double died, they planted PID clues - either to throw ppl off the trail (if it was a murder) or to show their respect for their "soldier" - with whatever spiritual and magickal interpretations they had thrown into it as well. These days, I'm not sure anymore. About anything... But it still holds as a reasonable explanation - at least as reasonable as anything else in PID-lore
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Mar 18, 2016 14:40:35 GMT -5
Hello thatisgroovyman, Where did the information come from that Paul was kidnapped? I'd recommend looking into Charles Braverman's 1978 cartoon "Condensed Cream of The Beatles." It's depiction of A Day in The Life is jarring. 60IF, although not accurate, hints a kidnapping, as does Faul's 'Monkberry Moon Delight.' Revolution 9 does as well. Deep, cryptic things going on in the Beatles' circle after the summer of '66.
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Post by beatlas231 on Mar 19, 2016 7:01:44 GMT -5
Hello thatisgroovyman, Where did the information come from that Paul was kidnapped? I'd recommend looking into Charles Braverman's 1978 cartoon "Condensed Cream of The Beatles." It's depiction of A Day in The Life is jarring. 60IF, although not accurate, hints a kidnapping, as does Faul's 'Monkberry Moon Delight.' Revolution 9 does as well. Deep, cryptic things going on in the Beatles' circle after the summer of '66. Please Tell me you aren't making reference to those GOD awful Beatle critics that would drive "Him" up a Wall with ideas that were just, beyond over the top. HEY, I heard something about Johnny being the (Absolute) Father of creating the pornhub? Some of you Lads (errr laddies, should I say wink wink) need to realize the most amazing gift, EVER. That being said, PORNHUB. I heard an absolutely Naughty rumor that the Naked photograph of Mr. Lennon and Mrs. Yoko actually had inspired MILLIONS to start going around with -- you know, the same way the Late Beatle did. I have one serious question -- Lennon being the Godfather and all, is Nudity in Today's world .... Well, I just answered my own question before I could type it out. Yes, this will be continued in my iameye RIVAL thread (JL CAUSE OF DEATH) Mr.Letter(B)man, would there be anyway you can link in that thread into this post ? I want to bring the Fab back into this place, have a nice little friendly posting competition (nothing big or anything; no tourneys involved; just some friendly 1 against 1 edition of "rival threads" ) Ah, I love it when All of the creative juices get flowing at once. Throw some subliminals, a Pinch of Pepper. Two whirls of thread names, sprinkled underneath one very subtle layer of Concrete Concert references lol
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Post by iameye on Mar 19, 2016 15:25:34 GMT -5
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Post by beatlas231 on Mar 20, 2016 10:52:11 GMT -5
Somewhere in a galaxy millions of light years away, George Harrison's reading those searches and thinking, Irish I hadn't read that lol
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Post by chica on Mar 20, 2016 19:13:47 GMT -5
Hello thatisgroovyman, Where did the information come from that Paul was kidnapped? I'd recommend looking into Charles Braverman's 1978 cartoon "Condensed Cream of The Beatles." It's depiction of A Day in The Life is jarring. 60IF, although not accurate, hints a kidnapping, as does Faul's 'Monkberry Moon Delight.' Revolution 9 does as well. Deep, cryptic things going on in the Beatles' circle after the summer of '66. Thanks for the reply. I watched Condensed Cream on youtube and it doesn't make any sense since it goes by so fast. You know Brian was a known homosexual and it is conjectured he knew the Kray brothers who were gangster in London's East End who at one time threatened to take over managing the Beatles because Brian had gambling debts he couldn't pay. He may have also been involved in kiddy sex parties that the Kray's supplied young boys for, so the Kray's would have had a lot on him and it may be possible that they kidnapped Paul in an effort to get him to pay up. Here is a good article on them:
aanirfan.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-kray-twins-worked-for-global-elite.html
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Post by chica on Mar 21, 2016 7:06:20 GMT -5
Hello thatisgroovyman, Where did the information come from that Paul was kidnapped? I'd recommend looking into Charles Braverman's 1978 cartoon "Condensed Cream of The Beatles." It's depiction of A Day in The Life is jarring. 60IF, although not accurate, hints a kidnapping, as does Faul's 'Monkberry Moon Delight.' Revolution 9 does as well. Deep, cryptic things going on in the Beatles' circle after the summer of '66. This link gives what someone thinks the meaning of Monkberry Moon Delight is:
www.lyricinterpretations.com/paul-mccartney/monkberry-moon-delight
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Post by chica on Mar 21, 2016 9:56:22 GMT -5
Maybe Paul didn't die, and any of the Beatles weren't permanently replaced. Maybe they just had body doubles for security purposes, and nothing more. Maybe 'Paul is Dead' is misinterpreted by all of us. As 'jarface' suggested in the 'Sgt. Pepper's Enigma Thread', Paul was just playing the role of the dead man/death's skull on the Sgt. Pepper's album cover, as per Poe's Goldbug, so we could locate the treasure on the album cover (Paul's heart). The Beatles used/hired doubles since '63, but that necessarily didn't mean any of them die. Actually for years I was convinced that this was indeed the case: They hired doubles, Paul's double died, they planted PID clues - either to throw ppl off the trail (if it was a murder) or to show their respect for their "soldier" - with whatever spiritual and magickal interpretations they had thrown into it as well. These days, I'm not sure anymore. About anything... But it still holds as a reasonable explanation - at least as reasonable as anything else in PID-lore Hey Sniffer, It seems very odd to me that the Beatles would go to so much trouble to put PID clues in their albumns because of the death of a double. Give a listen to the acceptance speech at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988. George says it is unfortunate that Paul couldn't be there and says that what is on the stage is all that's left of the Beatles and then he says we "loved John" and "we loved" not "love" Paul.
rockhall.com/inductees/the-beatles/video/2440/
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Post by chica on Mar 21, 2016 10:53:07 GMT -5
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Post by hotman637 on Mar 21, 2016 16:02:00 GMT -5
Actually for years I was convinced that this was indeed the case: They hired doubles, Paul's double died, they planted PID clues - either to throw ppl off the trail (if it was a murder) or to show their respect for their "soldier" - with whatever spiritual and magickal interpretations they had thrown into it as well. These days, I'm not sure anymore. About anything... But it still holds as a reasonable explanation - at least as reasonable as anything else in PID-lore Hey Sniffer, It seems very odd to me that the Beatles would go to so much trouble to put PID clues in their albumns because of the death of a double. Give a listen to the acceptance speech at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988. George says it is unfortunate that Paul couldn't be there and says that what is on the stage is all that's left of the Beatles and then he says we "loved John" and "we loved" not "love" Paul.
rockhall.com/inductees/the-beatles/video/2440/
The Krays also had connections to Tara Brown and a lot of Beatle songs may of had connections with underworld activities. "Taxman", "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" come to mind. The "Who" also had a gay manager and of course Freddie Mercury of Queen. So the whole rock and roll business was really a Nazi Gay Brothel run by the mafia! Paul would not go along and that is why he was kidnapped/murdered! The plot thickens! idynamo.wordpress.com/tag/kray-twins/
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