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Post by ramone on Mar 8, 2019 18:06:16 GMT -5
Yes, Apollo did say that JPM left - and he was certainly clear he didn't die. But, he mentioned that JPM left - with the thought of returning - but it really didn't happen that way. "Bill' stayed out in the limelight. Not JPM.
But he was clear that JPM was not completely gone by any means. He certainly contributed behind the scenes.
Which to me didn't mean emptying the trash at night - but being involved in the music as he had been. But, maybe not to the extent he had been and certainly not doing any public stuff (perhaps with few exceptions).
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 8, 2019 20:29:38 GMT -5
Yes, Apollo did say that JPM left - and he was certainly clear he didn't die. But, he mentioned that JPM left - with the thought of returning - but it really didn't happen that way. "Bill' stayed out in the limelight. Not JPM. But he was clear that JPM was not completely gone by any means. He certainly contributed behind the scenes. Which to me didn't mean emptying the trash at night - but being involved in the music as he had been. But, maybe not to the extent he had been and certainly not doing any public stuff (perhaps with few exceptions). Thanks ramone for clearing that up and saving me time going through all the old posts. Didn't Apollo say JPM returned during the sessions for Let It Be? He also mentioned the solo album replies between John and JPM and stressed the response from 3 Legs and Crippled Inside...and that it was very important to study those two songs for deeper insight. Was Apollo trying to say that JPM went through some form of deep depression or mental stress and this is why JPM left the group for a little while? What we could have is that JPM writes all the tunes for Billy,produces them,etc...and Billy just performs them in videos,concerts and TV shows? This would also explain why Billy is so prominent in so many pics,etc...post The Beatle years. But it also explains why no death of JPM can be found...since he is very much alive but prefers to be behind the scenes rather than in the spotlight. Both JPM and Billy...along with Apple... all profit and promote the PID narrative through devices like Rotton Apple, PID internet video gurus, PID book pushers like Tom Uharriet,and new clues on albums as it creates the mystery needed to keep fans involved,engaged and buying new product.
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Post by ramone on Mar 8, 2019 20:39:28 GMT -5
"Didn't Apollo say JPM returned during the sessions for Let It Be?"
White Album and Abbey Rd. specifically.
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 8, 2019 21:00:12 GMT -5
This would also make sense of the lyrics in Back Off Boogaloo where Ringo tells Paul to quit pretending he is dead.
If JPM really died and was replaced by Billy as theorized...then why is Ringo calling Billy, Paul and asking him to stop pretending he is dead?
No...Ringo is telling JPM to stop pretending he is dead!
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 8, 2019 21:02:15 GMT -5
"Didn't Apollo say JPM returned during the sessions for Let It Be?" White Album and Abbey Rd. specifically. OK...nice...I was going from memory.
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Post by B on Mar 9, 2019 15:18:13 GMT -5
timmyb52 wrote: I'm So Tired (Remastered 2009)www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cqHtGb9WYMHmmm. Tired of all the bullshit, are we? I want to help you with your problem. You know what kind of sounds like Bu LL SHit? I mean, not exactly, but sort of: Bi LLy SHears ! Yeah! This guy! (a "bull shit" artist: "Well it was a hot day, so I took off my shoes..." ) Does he look as if he's serious? Or does he look like a bit like a cartoon character? (And this coming from someone whose avatar is Mickey Mouse!) It could be that in order to see what's in front of you, you may want to lighten up a bit. Now Shirley Lennon and McCartney must have known that "Billy Shears" sounded like "bullshit"! I'll bet they used that name on purpose! Looking back, I can recall that when 'Sgt Pepper' came out, an expert on Shakespeare said that he had a feeling that Billy alluded to 'the bard' in some way. That's quite likely, I would say. After all, William was a bit of a character himself! Yes, he was a real person, just as Willy Wonky Campbell is, but he was playing a role, and not to be taken at face value. Don't you think that the royalty of Shakespeare's time would have had him arrested if they saw how they were being portrayed in his plays? So the actual "Arthurs" kept their identities secret, and Will-iam would come out after the plays were done, and take a bow, and the credit, for having written the plays. The master of ceremonies would say, "Let me introduce to you, the one and only Willy Shakes-his-pee-er!" (They had that Shirley Lennon sense of humor, even back then!) William was never arrested or jailed for 'his' plays; he got by with a little help from his friends. On one level, it's good for a laugh. On another, though, there's 'SOMETHING there'; just not what it appears to be on the surface. You have to DIG deep. Or dig a pony. Apollo always talked about 'seeing what was shown'. Let's see: a BEATLES grave. Or was it "Paul?" How can they be dead if they're looking at their grave? The piper's calling you to join him. Maybe it's not about the money. Sure, the "Sage of Quay" [ "the 'wise man' of 'spin'? " - another mind game] probably works for 'them'. And yes, maybe he gets a cut of the proceeds, but it could be you're focused on the wrong thing. (Play along.) Press to PLAY. Shakespeare was about PLAYS. And though she feels as if she's in a PLAY.... "PLAY" - It's meant to be fun. It's not meant to be a grueling slog through the muck. "Look, the only thing that really matters here is what I'm about to show you!"No, that's not it! Or is it? ----------------------------- Hmmmph! This isn't the response that I had intended to write at all! Comments about the Quay interview with Nick Chylak tomorrow, God WILLing.
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Post by B on Mar 9, 2019 22:40:16 GMT -5
Some might say the real bullshit artist is the one who wrote the post above. You'll get no argument from me! Actually William was quite a guy! Even though the video below is about a magician, you will find that Mr. Shakespeare had a role (pun intended) far more significant than just being a joker. This video is provided for the sake of balance and fairness. It is not essene-tial to the discussion. Still, there's a discussion of King Arthur and other topics that seem to be percolating around here right now. Could be worth your time! James Alan Egan: John Dee Initiated the British Empirewww.youtube.com/watch?v=jnh_szldspkWell here's another clue for you all, especially iamaphoney fans: youtu.be/jnh_szldspk?t=673 John Dee's tombstone might have a familiar ring to it: youtu.be/jnh_szldspk?t=2660 And listen to the conversation at that point in the video ^^^^ . "He buried the book (of angel conversations) in his back yard in a wooden box four feet under the ground. Well 15 years later an antiquarian bought his house - was digging around the yard - and came across the book and published it." ( Underneath the wall lay the answer to it all.)
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Post by joseph on Mar 10, 2019 22:27:07 GMT -5
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Post by B on Mar 10, 2019 23:21:33 GMT -5
You know what really makes my day? You want to know what makes me feel as if my efforts here are worth the time and energy I put into them? Lemme tell ya! When I write: "Well here's another clue for you all, especially iamaphoney fans: youtu.be/jnh_szldspk?t=673
John Dee's tombstone might have a familiar ring to it: youtu.be/jnh_szldspk?t=2660 "thinking that maybe someone will actually look at those links, and say: "Wow! John Dee's tombstone kind of looks like the message on the Sgt. Pepper drum!" or "Hey! You know that swirling pattern on the book about John Dee looks like that drawing on the record sleeve in the suitcase that iamaphoney hid!" but instead, the response is: "What's happened to kaleidoquake? Has he been gotten?"That tells me that I'm batting a thousand! Thanks for the feedback. Well joseph, I think I pissed him off, but I don't know for sure. He's not banned or "gotten". I would appreciate it if you would stay somewhat on topic, or at least in the flow of the discussions, and if you have a question like the one you asked, you can private message me (or kaleidoquake) with it.
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Post by ramone on Mar 11, 2019 19:18:20 GMT -5
"Wow! John Dee's tombstone kind of looks like the message on the Sgt. Pepper drum!"
Does look similar.
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Post by B on Mar 11, 2019 19:28:28 GMT -5
Thank you!!!!
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 12, 2019 2:04:49 GMT -5
You know what really makes my day? You want to know what makes me feel as if my efforts here are worth the time and energy I put into them? Lemme tell ya! When I write: "Well here's another clue for you all, especially iamaphoney fans: youtu.be/jnh_szldspk?t=673
John Dee's tombstone might have a familiar ring to it: youtu.be/jnh_szldspk?t=2660 "thinking that maybe someone will actually look at those links, and say: "Wow! John Dee's tombstone kind of looks like the message on the Sgt. Pepper drum!" or "Hey! You know that swirling pattern on the book about John Dee looks like that drawing on the record sleeve in the suitcase that iamaphoney hid!" but instead, the response is: "What's happened to kaleidoquake? Has he been gotten?"That tells me that I'm batting a thousand! Thanks for the feedback. Well joseph, I think I pissed him off, but I don't know for sure. He's not banned or "gotten". I would appreciate it if you would stay somewhat on topic, or at least in the flow of the discussions, and if you have a question like the one you asked, you can private message me (or kaleidoquake) with it. Thanks B!
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Post by B on Mar 13, 2019 20:45:16 GMT -5
Israel Regarding this: Sage of Quay™ - Nick Chylak - Billy Shears, Crowley and the Hardy Warrior (Mar 2019)youtu.be/co2fGOKS5QkI know I said I would comment on it, but aside from agreeing with the premise that Faul (one of them anyway) is probably a son of Crowley, I feel as if I would have to read the updated Memoirs book to comment intelligently about what is said in this interview. The connection to the Kennedy assassination is interesting, because the way I felt when I "heard the news" back in October of 1969 that JPM might be dead was nearly identical to the way I had felt when I got the news that Kennedy had been shot: a really strong sense of something strange going on, blended with horror, as well as a sick feeling in my stomach, accompanied by an unintentional adrenaline rush which - in the case of McCartney - kept me and my fellow college students up all night, looking for clues. There was a really creepy vibe to it all that everybody felt. It wasn't something where you would have said, "Oh, those silly Beatles, playing a trick on us!" It was more like a punch in the gut, but that doesn't convey just how creepy and sad it felt. You just knew something wasn't right. But then Faul assured us that 'he' was alive, and nobody was any the wiser, because we didn't have the internet, and no one wanted McCartney to be dead, so we went on with our lives, and things were all right after that. But way deep down we knew otherwise, because we had felt it.
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Post by ramone on Mar 16, 2019 9:36:42 GMT -5
Yes, Apollo did say that JPM left - and he was certainly clear he didn't die. But, he mentioned that JPM left - with the thought of returning - but it really didn't happen that way. "Bill' stayed out in the limelight. Not JPM. But he was clear that JPM was not completely gone by any means. He certainly contributed behind the scenes. Which to me didn't mean emptying the trash at night - but being involved in the music as he had been. But, maybe not to the extent he had been and certainly not doing any public stuff (perhaps with few exceptions). And just a little more to chew on - "Ramone The main problem with this, and other boards of the same ilk, is that the mystery has already been solved. Now, all they need to do is put the puzzle together. It's kind of like, putting the cart before the horse. Little do they know, but they are miles away from the original intention. To make matters worse, they drag others into the cunumdrum. Dylan replaced, Hitler replaced, God replaced. Bullocks! What I offer them does not fit with their preconceived ideas. Therefore, I am full of shite. Those who want to take this on seriously, need to purge everything they think they know out of the mix. Look with new eyes, listen with new ears. Therein lies the story waiting to unfold. Paul did not die. Part of him did. Replaced? Look at the clues. Every picture tells a story. Apollo"
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Post by B on Mar 16, 2019 13:24:36 GMT -5
Ha! I was going to post that! Great minds work in sync, ramone!
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 16, 2019 16:11:31 GMT -5
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Post by B on Mar 18, 2019 11:30:13 GMT -5
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Post by ramone on Mar 19, 2019 9:16:09 GMT -5
And just a little more to chew on - I humbly disagree with Apollo. Just the opposite is true. Looking at clues gets nothing. Depends on the clue.
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Post by B on Mar 20, 2019 0:14:50 GMT -5
All formats and editions Paperback from $585.98 Beatles - The Untold Story: the death and replacement of Paul McCartneyby Ernie Schultze (Author)www.amazon.com/Beatles-Untold-Story-replacement-McCartney/dp/0615626653?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ2F6RDUSIYCWQMFQ&tag=sa-sym-new-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=0615626653"New Beatles Book Presents Evidence And The Story Of The Death And Replacement Of Paul McCartney "Beatles, the Death and Replacement of Paul McCartney, The Untold Story" authored by Ernie Schultze is now available as published by A-Argus Books publishing. Just when you thought there could not possibly be another Beatles book, author Ernie Schultze jolts the literary establishment with his latest. Beatles: The Death and Replacement of Paul McCartney, compiles evidence based on rumors that Paul was killed in a car crash in November 1966, then conveniently replaced by a talented look-alike, groomed for the seamless take-over. Baby Boomers who went through Beatlemainea, many hearing the rumor and accepting it as true, can now read about what really happened. The events and cover-up afforded by English law makes an intriguing story. The English economy was in the middle of a Sterling crisis and the Beatles revenues pulled the economy out of a hole. Those revenues and his association with the Beatles got the Prime Minister elected. The Prime Minister, the Queen and the "Official Secrets Act" could not have let him die regardless of what happened or the economy, political and corporate fortunes would tank. The relationship with the new member, the look-alike, sets off a heavy strain on the group. There is a tragic inevitability about the events of the Beatles' rise and fall that places the story in the realm of great literature. Consider the Breakup: what the public knows -- the Official Version -- is not even in the same universe as what actually happened. The Beatles themselves confirm this. This book incorporates it all in story fashion. "
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Post by B on Mar 20, 2019 19:20:29 GMT -5
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 22, 2019 21:48:30 GMT -5
A PLAY on words and music. Ritual Magick as Performance Art? wildhunt.org/2012/12/ritual-magick-as-performance-art.html"My second question is, if this is simply theater, a performance in tribute to Crowley and the mystique of magic(k), does this event signify a new resurgence of ritual as performance art? " Rotten Apple videos...a new form of this expressive art as ritual for the modern day? The Eleusinian Mysteries: The Rites of Demeter www.ancient.eu/article/32/the-eleusinian-mysteries-the-rites-of-demeter/"The Rites of Eleusis, or the Eleusinian Mysteries, were the secret rituals of the mystery school of Eleusis and were observed regularly from c. 1600 BCE - 392 CE. Exactly what this mystic ritual was no one knows; but why the ancient Greeks participated in it can be understood by the testimonials of the initiated." Death and Resurrection...common themes repeated in Beatle clues. The Beatles were engaged in ritual performance expressed through their musical and visual art on the global stage...for ALL to SEE. In Crowley's honor! Attachments:
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 22, 2019 22:06:51 GMT -5
Cheese...also slang for money!
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 22, 2019 23:46:19 GMT -5
Yes, Apollo did say that JPM left - and he was certainly clear he didn't die. But, he mentioned that JPM left - with the thought of returning - but it really didn't happen that way. "Bill' stayed out in the limelight. Not JPM. But he was clear that JPM was not completely gone by any means. He certainly contributed behind the scenes. Which to me didn't mean emptying the trash at night - but being involved in the music as he had been. But, maybe not to the extent he had been and certainly not doing any public stuff (perhaps with few exceptions). And just a little more to chew on - "Ramone The main problem with this, and other boards of the same ilk, is that the mystery has already been solved. Now, all they need to do is put the puzzle together. It's kind of like, putting the cart before the horse. Little do they know, but they are miles away from the original intention. To make matters worse, they drag others into the cunumdrum. Dylan replaced, Hitler replaced, God replaced. Bullocks! What I offer them does not fit with their preconceived ideas. Therefore, I am full of shite. Those who want to take this on seriously, need to purge everything they think they know out of the mix. Look with new eyes, listen with new ears. Therein lies the story waiting to unfold. Paul did not die. Part of him did. Replaced? Look at the clues. Every picture tells a story. Apollo" Apollo's posts always seemed to suggest a secret love affair between JPM and Tara...and that when Tara died in his car accident so did a large part of Paul. Thus, JPM leaving The Beatles to deal with his sadness and depression at this time created the need for Billy...but it was not meant to be permanent, but temporary. But...by the time JPM wanted to come back...the situation with Billy had become a little bit more complex? It reminds me of when Sid Barrett left Pink Floyd and tried to come back later...but by that time the group no longer needed him because they had found a new sound and voice with Roger Waters and David Gilmour.
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Post by ramone on Mar 23, 2019 10:43:53 GMT -5
Apollo's posts always seemed to suggest a secret love affair between JPM and Tara...and that when Tara died in his car accident so did a large part of Paul. Thus, JPM leaving The Beatles to deal with his sadness and depression at this time created the need for Billy...but it was not meant to be permanent, but temporary. But...by the time JPM wanted to come back...the situation with Billy had become a little bit more complex? It reminds me of when Sid Barrett left Pink Floyd and tried to come back later...but by that time the group no longer needed him because they had found a new sound and voice with Roger Waters and David Gilmour. That would seem to be pretty much exactly what ACV was pointing at - except that it wasn't a love affair - as in they were gay - but a close bond between two people. But, it's obvious, to me anyway, that the replacement thing was in the works well before. It could be JPM was really ready to get out with the stress of being a Beatle. Some of us might relate. We might have a job that aspects of we don't like. If we thought there was no way out for a long time - that could be depressing. But, if we knew here was a way to get out sooner we could probably keep our chin up seeing light at the end of the tunnel. We might even be able to resume the job at some point if we had a breather. In JPM's case that didn't happen for whatever reasons. (resuming) Whatever he was going thru it seems that the news Of Tara was a bomb. It can be hard to function , at least for some time, when we get some 'blow us out of the water' news.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Mar 23, 2019 21:10:16 GMT -5
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