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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 7, 2018 22:17:12 GMT -5
Edit by B: Some of the images that were meant to be seen in this post are not. timmyb52 may have to reconfigure them. If I have time later, I will attempt to fix the problem. I'm not sure if an in depth discussion or analysis has been done for the 1973 Ringo album or not...but several things have caught my attention which I wish to share with everyone in order to get their opinions and thoughts on. At first glance of this album cover it is obvious that it is parodying the Sgt.Peppers album in style and design. To me many things on this album cover seem to be telling us to go back and look at Sgt.Peppers...which reminds me of the many posts and hints left by Apollo C.Vermouth who is believed to have been Neil Aspinall. To be honest I had not been very familiar with his posts and recently have been studying and researchiung them...and I find myself now doubting PID after many years of being pro-PID and reavulating those long held beliefs. Many of the albums post Sgt.Peppers...along with many of the Beatles solo work seems to be telling us to go back to Pepper over and over again. This album cover seems to be telling us the same thing...and saying it very loudly! www.beatlesbible.com/people/ringo-starr/albums/ringo/Take note of the appearance here of Paul,George,John and Ringo...they are all wearing bright colored T-Shirts with overalls. No one else is wearing this ensemble but the Beatles themselves. Just as Sgt.Peppers and MMT had done before...the Beatles are presenting themselves as a new band. With Sgt.Peppers it was a marching band...MMT it was a band of animals...with Ringo it looks like a band of field workers or farmers. It is curious to note that overalls have their first mention in written history as early as 1776 as a protective garment commonly worn by black slaves. Are the Beatles not just telling us to go back to Pepper but also telling us about something we missed in connection with that album cover? Are they trying to tell us that they are all slaves to the music industry and those who own,control and profit the most off them? Stella McCartney who is known as a fashion designer has a very popular line of overalls for women and children...coincidence? Another link between this album and Peppers is The Eggman...who is standing behind Paul and Linda. Once again we are lead back to Peppers and Lewis Carroll... with the Alice motiff that repeats also over and over again in our research. Other things of interest include; 1.} Peppers has everyone on its cover under a blu sky it is curious to note here that everyone here is under a dark sky "illuminated" by the stars of twilght. 2.} Ringo appears 3 times on the same cover...in the center of the album itself with a cherub, as the wizard, and also the little Ringo puppet on the wizards hand. Is this wizard a representation of Merlin? Does this suggest links to The Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn and the establishment of the Fraternity of The Inner Light with its strong interest in the legends of King Arthur and The Knights of The Round Table? Wizards are also closely linked to alchemy and magic...occult practices. Wizards also cast spells much the same as music casts spells over its listeners. 3.} Just as Apollo always mentions "the flowers in the dirt"...we see a reminder of the 5 pointed star flower as seen on Peppers here on the Ringo album represented by John who can be seen grasping a Ruby colored 5 pointed star...also known as the pentagram. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram4.} Also between John and George can be seen a green apple representing Apple Records...but why is it's stem appear to be on fire or illuminating light? Is this suggesting to the viewer that the platform of Apple Records and its music are a device used to propagate messages and transfer knowledge to their fans and listeners? As if to reinforce this idea we have George holding a yellow balloon with an OM symbol written on it indicating a state of higher consciousness or enlightenment. I will be adding some more of my thoughts on this and how it relates to Apollo and Peppers in the near future...but first I would like to get the forums thoughts on some of the items I have presented here.
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Post by joseph on Mar 8, 2018 0:00:13 GMT -5
There's a letter missing from RINGO on the album cover. It could be read as "Ringo not I" - which it most certainly isn't. P.S. those overalls are giving me bad vibes about children's TV show Rainbow.
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Post by beacon on Mar 8, 2018 11:08:12 GMT -5
Great post. I do think there may be something more to this album cover and it is definitely pointing back toward Pepper. I wonder when somebody first put a mirror to the Pepper drumskin? Here we have the drummers name mirrored, which is a fairly big clue if one appreciates it as such.
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 8, 2018 18:30:34 GMT -5
Thanks B for fixing some of the links...I was having some computer trouble at the time of posting. And thanks everyone for those very insightful observations and comments. I think this album hss a lot of things going on that should be more discussed and researched. I look forward to continuing this discussion and analysis with future posts.Great stuff everyone!
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 8, 2018 18:34:25 GMT -5
There's a letter missing from RINGO on the album cover. It could be read as "Ringo not I" - which it most certainly isn't. P.S. those overalls are giving me bad vibes about children's TV show Rainbow. Yeah...that old man cherub next to Ringo gives me a bad vibe and I will try to do some more research into the history of cherubs.
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Post by iameye on Mar 8, 2018 20:22:48 GMT -5
Edit by B: Some of the images that were meant to be seen in this post are not. timmyb52 may have to reconfigure them. If I have time later, I will attempt to fix the problem. I'm not sure if an in depth discussion or analysis has been done for the 1973 Ringo album or not...but several things have caught my attention which I wish to share with everyone in order to get their opinions and thoughts on. At first glance of this album cover it is obvious that it is parodying the Sgt.Peppers album in style and design. To me many things on this album cover seem to be telling us to go back and look at Sgt.Peppers...which reminds me of the many posts and hints left by Apollo C.Vermouth who is believed to have been Neil Aspinall. To be honest I had not been very familiar with his posts and recently have been studying and researchiung them...and I find myself now doubting PID after many years of being pro-PID and reavulating those long held beliefs. Many of the albums post Sgt.Peppers...along with many of the Beatles solo work seems to be telling us to go back to Pepper over and over again. This album cover seems to be telling us the same thing...and saying it very loudly! www.beatlesbible.com/people/ringo-starr/albums/ringo/Take note of the appearance here of Paul,George,John and Ringo...they are all wearing bright colored T-Shirts with overalls. No one else is wearing this ensemble but the Beatles themselves. Just as Sgt.Peppers and MMT had done before...the Beatles are presenting themselves as a new band. With Sgt.Peppers it was a marching band...MMT it was a band of animals...with Ringo it looks like a band of field workers or farmers. It is curious to note that overalls have their first mention in written history as early as 1776 as a protective garment commonly worn by black slaves. Are the Beatles not just telling us to go back to Pepper but also telling us about something we missed in connection with that album cover? Are they trying to tell us that they are all slaves to the music industry and those who own,control and profit the most off them? Stella McCartney who is known as a fashion designer has a very popular line of overalls for women and children...coincidence? Another link between this album and Peppers is The Eggman...who is standing behind Paul and Linda. Once again we are lead back to Peppers and Lewis Carroll... with the Alice motiff that repeats also over and over again in our research. Other things of interest include; 1.} Peppers has everyone on its cover under a blu sky it is curious to note here that everyone here is under a dark sky "illuminated" by the stars of twilght. 2.} Ringo appears 3 times on the same cover...in the center of the album itself with a cherub, as the wizard, and also the little Ringo puppet on the wizards hand. Is this wizard a representation of Merlin? Does this suggest links to The Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn and the establishment of the Fraternity of The Inner Light with its strong interest in the legends of King Arthur and The Knights of The Round Table? Wizards are also closely linked to alchemy and magic...occult practices. Wizards also cast spells much the same as music casts spells over its listeners. 3.} Just as Apollo always mentions "the flowers in the dirt"...we see a reminder of the 5 pointed star flower as seen on Peppers here on the Ringo album represented by John who can be seen grasping a Ruby colored 5 pointed star...also known as the pentagram. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram4.} Also between John and George can be seen a green apple representing Apple Records...but why is it's stem appear to be on fire or illuminating light? Is this suggesting to the viewer that the platform of Apple Records and its music are a device used to propagate messages and transfer knowledge to their fans and listeners? As if to reinforce this idea we have George holding a yellow balloon with an OM symbol written on it indicating a state of higher consciousness or enlightenment. I will be adding some more of my thoughts on this and how it relates to Apollo and Peppers in the near future...but first I would like to get the forums thoughts on some of the items I have presented here. lol
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Post by Paul Bearer on Mar 11, 2018 21:25:59 GMT -5
There are three Ringos.
1) The original who died not long after Paul. He was poisoned with scrambled eggs by the FBI in 1964 and it took two years for the poison to deliver its final fatal blow. This is the same poison that Paul suffered from which inspired the song "Yesterday" about his deteriorating health. A shadow was hanging over him indeed - of death! Had he not been killed in the car crash, Paul would also have died eventually from this same poison.
2) Tara Browne, whose death was faked and why "A Day In The Life" was so relevant to Sgt. Pepper. Ringo's impersonator sings "What would you do if I sang out of tune...?"
Brian Jones, The Rolling Stones founder, was the one killed in that car crash and was replaced for three years until his replacement was murdered. The "Dig It" song begins "Like a Rolling Stone..."
3) An actor (unknown).
I believe the latter two have been both paying Ringo for some time, alternating or whatever. Are these the Ringo twins?
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Post by B on Mar 12, 2018 0:44:42 GMT -5
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Post by timmyb52 on Mar 24, 2018 21:45:01 GMT -5
Sorry its taking so long on delivering the second part to this post guys...I'm waiting on some research materials to back up my thoughts going forward.Crossing my T's and dotting my I's.
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Post by timmyb52 on May 4, 2018 17:44:32 GMT -5
Due to a case of cancer within my family I have had to put my follow up piece on this album on hold for the time being. I will post again on this subject for sure in the future since I have a lot more to say about it as it relates to PID.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Jun 29, 2018 4:16:16 GMT -5
What's the 'story' behind that one Ringo's weird eyebrow?
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Post by timmyb52 on Sept 17, 2018 2:31:00 GMT -5
In my follow up research I was going to show some more connections between this album and Sgt.Pepper along with The Beatles activities in 1973 who came together on Ringo's behalf to help him make a good rock record. However, after a very long and detailed examination into these periods the facts I uncovered did not back up my original speculations and theories that I was hoping to prove. Also...I was beginning to lack a firm belief in PID due to frustration at obtaining harder historical support to back up some of thoughts I wished to express. But with Faul's latest album release and subsequent interviews and appearances...I have no more doubts at all that Paul was replaced in 1966...but I still have doubts if he died. Regardless, I do have something to share in regards to Ringo's 1973 album that may or may not be a PID clue. In this inner album art for the song "Oh My My" by Klaus Voorman we have a hospital scene...and behind Ringo floating in the air is what appears to be a very Paul like character with a head wound. PID clue or not? You be the judge!
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Post by ekauqodielak on Dec 27, 2018 3:08:26 GMT -5
I'd be curious to hear what (all/some/any of) your original theories were, timmyb52. Given the breadth, depth and duration of this .....mystery..... I don't think your inability to find evidence should be taken as proof that your theories were wrong. Smart criminals don't document crimes. Governments redact. Here's my question: why did the FBI want to kill Ringo I?
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Post by timmyb52 on Dec 31, 2018 13:45:34 GMT -5
I'd be curious to hear what (all/some/any of) your original theories were, timmyb52 . Given the breadth, depth and duration of this .....mystery..... I don't think your inability to find evidence should be taken as proof that your theories were wrong. Smart criminals don't document crimes. Governments redact. Here's my question: why did the FBI want to kill Ringo I? K...I'm not familiar with the FBI wanting to kill Ringo at all. Care to elaborate?
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Post by timmyb52 on Dec 31, 2018 14:28:21 GMT -5
K...at the time of my Ringo album research I was also making stronger connections to the "head wound" imagery prevalent throughout PID research that postulates that Paul's death was due to a traumatic wound to the head. This "wound to the head" imagery has its roots in ancient Egyptian,Greek,Roman,and biblical mythology and history. This all has ties to ancient Egyptian mystery school traditions which find correlations with Masonic traditions. Dream symbolism is also interesting in this research when it comes to "wounds". I find myself intrigued by the constant suggestion of one receiving a "head wound",dying...and yet coming back to life again in this research. I'm of the belief that Paul 's "death" was not a literal,physical death...but a symbolic one and that PID research is itself a form of mystery school initiation. It also finds ties to the mystery of Jesus's death and resurrection. This would also seem to be linked to "multiple Pauls" as just characters playing a part. We have a lot of that also in ancient mythology and history. The thing that really stands out in regards to the Ringo album is that it is drenched in this mystery school/Masonic symbolism more than any other related Beatles work...except for perhaps Sgt.Pepper itself which it reflects in imagery and mood. cafeausoul.com/dreams/dreamdictionary/Wound Wounds on the head can represent ideas that are self limiting or the need to let old grievances go so that one can 'heal.' Revelation 13:3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.
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Post by timmyb52 on Dec 31, 2018 14:44:57 GMT -5
I'm interested in where this notion in regards to Paul receiving a "wound to the head" first originated from. It is my belief it has been purposely injected into PID research to promote mystery school/mssonic initiation processes. To "lead" the researcher into deeper avenues of occultism and occultic knowledge.Thus, getting them addicted to it through their own thirst for knowledge and truth. Paul and PID is merely the vehicle used by the dark elites to promote,promulgate and transfer this hidden knowledge to others. It is initiation. One becomes "dead" to the old world of illusions and fantasy...and is reborn or resurrected to the truth of how the world really works or operates.
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Post by timmyb52 on Jan 1, 2019 17:21:30 GMT -5
K...maybe in the not to distant future I will share some of the other stuff I was correlating with the Ringo album,Sgt.Peppers and MMT. There is a lot of stuff in the Ringo albums songs and lyrics also that I wished to address that contain subtle occultic messaging and meanings. We have a lot of words used in odd ways which seem to want to express messages on different levels. Or that which is called speaking masterfully in masonic tradition.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Jan 6, 2019 2:12:12 GMT -5
I'd be curious to hear what (all/some/any of) your original theories were, timmyb52 . Given the breadth, depth and duration of this .....mystery..... I don't think your inability to find evidence should be taken as proof that your theories were wrong. Smart criminals don't document crimes. Governments redact. Here's my question: why did the FBI want to kill Ringo I? K...I'm not familiar with the FBI wanting to kill Ringo at all. Care to elaborate? Uhm the folks who believe in Scrambled Eggs frequently posit that Ringo and Paul were both poisoned at the same breakfast and that, while the poisoning killed Ringo fairly quickly, Paul died slowly over the course of two-ish years. The only suspected poisoner I recall having seen mentioned in this scenario is the FBI. And while I agree, obviously, that Ringo (sharp straight nose) was observably replaced pretty early on, I'm fuzzy on why the FBI would want to murder an effortlessly cool midget drummer. I like your thoughts about the metaphor of the head injury and all the concepts that get to mingle on the playground with that as context. But I don't think it was just a metaphor. Perhaps, it was their way of 'signing the cast' and/or normalizing and even exalting the unfixable. The reason I believe there was a head injury is not because of "clues" but because of photos of the Pauls. In addition to Ear Mayhem --- and I do believe their ears were cut off like J. Paul Getty III -- there are a couple of Pauls with severe facial scarring and they were frequently snapped wearing not great prosthetics/make-up to hide the scars or otherwise trying to distract from the scars. Sometimes, like on the Revolver cover, the right side of a Paul's face is just badly blurred out with whatever they used pre-photoshop/pre-airbrushing. Some Examples: The Right Side of "Bean Pole" Paul's face and his right ear - "Dumpy" Paul's Forehead - There are no words.... Right side of face, below bottom lip, nose tip and bridge, left eye lid: The entire right side of this one's face looks like it's made of rubber: This is the same one from the smoke pic and the entire right side of his face is scarred: This one shows up repeatedly looking brain damaged: Faces made of actual face don't do this:
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Post by timmyb52 on Jan 8, 2019 15:46:40 GMT -5
Thanks K for elaborating...very interesting stuff for sure!
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Post by joseph on Jan 8, 2019 16:56:52 GMT -5
If you look at the left edge (as we look at it) of the face on the "dumpy" Paul you can see it's much lighter than the rest of the face. There is another of these pictures that has a different face on it. What you are looking at there is a young Faul's face superimposed on a picture of young Paul.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Jan 8, 2019 20:09:19 GMT -5
No. It isn't photo-trickery. Dumpy Paul had a forehead scar which can be made out on several photos, despite poor resolution. The photo-trickery is the version of that photo which 'shops out his scar, gives him a Faul nose and drops in a completely different background. That version is the Sir Paul authorized version.
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Post by joseph on Jan 8, 2019 21:17:14 GMT -5
No. It isn't photo-trickery. Dumpy Paul had a forehead scar which can be made out on several photos, despite poor resolution. The photo-trickery is the version of that photo which 'shops out his scar, gives him a Faul nose and drops in a completely different background. That version is the Sir Paul authorized version. I think it's been doctored with this one as the base
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Post by ekauqodielak on Jan 8, 2019 21:28:10 GMT -5
No, it's opposite. The one you just posted is the Sir Billy Officially sanctioned version of the original photo.
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Post by maclen on Jan 9, 2019 3:03:26 GMT -5
lets change this thread's title to poor interpretations of non evidence and wretched photo analyses. please ask why
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Post by B on Jan 13, 2019 20:30:29 GMT -5
why?
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