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Post by ekauqodielak on May 9, 2020 15:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 13, 2020 10:17:27 GMT -5
timmyb52 Thanks for reminding me about this. I was looking forward to giving it a listen.
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 14, 2020 19:18:24 GMT -5
timmyb52 Holy fuck! You’ve gotta listen to this. Wait til you get to episode #3: Beatles mentioned twice, missing fingers, bands as intelligence courier services, C.I.A usage of photographers, etc. It’s confirming so many of my suspicions. The whole thing is up on Spotify (30 day free trial if you’re not a subscriber, but I think podcasts may be free there, either way). This covers so much more than just that one song and is so relevant to all of our research here that it’s blowing my mind.
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Post by timmyb52 on May 15, 2020 3:05:36 GMT -5
timmyb52 Holy fuck! You’ve gotta listen to this. Wait til you get to episode #3: Beatles mentioned twice, missing fingers, bands as intelligence courier services, C.I.A usage of photographers, etc. It’s confirming so many of my suspicions. The whole thing is up on Spotify (30 day free trial if you’re not a subscriber, but I think podcasts may be free there, either way). This covers so much more than just that one song and is so relevant to all of our research here that it’s blowing my mind.  Thanks K...I will watch it as soon as I can and will comment afterwards on it. |
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 15, 2020 5:03:51 GMT -5
timmyb52 Holy fuck! You’ve gotta listen to this. Wait til you get to episode #3: Beatles mentioned twice, missing fingers, bands as intelligence courier services, C.I.A usage of photographers, etc. It’s confirming so many of my suspicions. The whole thing is up on Spotify (30 day free trial if you’re not a subscriber, but I think podcasts may be free there, either way). This covers so much more than just that one song and is so relevant to all of our research here that it’s blowing my mind. Thanks K...I will watch it as soon as I can and will comment afterwards on it. I made the mistake of binging the whole thing in one sitting & it’s just too much info to intake that way, for me, anyway. I spaced out through the middle and have to give some of the episodes a relisten. Please, do let me know when you’ve had a chance to sit down with it, though. Would love to discuss! |
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Post by timmyb52 on May 16, 2020 2:21:51 GMT -5
Thanks K...I will watch it as soon as I can and will comment afterwards on it. I made the mistake of binging the whole thing in one sitting & it’s just too much info to intake that way, for me, anyway. I spaced out through the middle and have to give some of the episodes a relisten. Please, do let me know when you’ve had a chance to sit down with it, though. Would love to discuss! All very interesting stuff K...very interesting! The Scorpions being from Germany might have links to our theories about how The Beatles early integration as a device for social engineering by ex-Nazi fascist and Illuminati cabalists might have had its start in Hamburg...especially as it served as a major industrial center of Nazi power. So...it makes sense to me that many ex-Nazi loyalists and other fascist sympathizers would have been lurking around at the time The Beatles were in Germany during their early days. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Hamburg_in_World_War_IIBombing of Hamburg in World War II The Allied bombing of Hamburg during World War II included numerous attacks on civilians and civic infrastructure. As a large city and industrial centre, Hamburg's shipyards, U-boat pens, and the Hamburg-Harburg area oil refineries were attacked throughout the war. 9 fingers...makes me wonder about the old rumors of the CIA connections with the mafia. Maybe also a Yukuza connection? I watched all the way up until episode 5 when it started to remind me of this book. www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122I highly recommend you check it out K if you haven't already since it relates significantly to these podcasts as it concerns intelligence agencies influence upon the 60's counter-culture scene. |
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 16, 2020 12:59:01 GMT -5
All very interesting stuff K...very interesting! The Scorpions being from Germany might have links to our theories about how The Beatles early integration as a device for social engineering by ex-Nazi fascist and Illuminati cabalists might have had its start in Hamburg...especially as it served as a major industrial center of Nazi power. I am absolutely inclined to believe that. I, also, think there was at least one entire set of German Beatles. And that Astrid et al were their handlers. And there were also close ties between Liverpool, specifically, and Germany. I'm on the fence about the fingers and ears. Could they have been a punishment? Sure. Could they have also just been a way to mark and identify 'members' or…'property'? Yeah. --- we're only seeing part of the elephant with that one, I think. I have not read that book for a couple of reasons. 1) Almost everything I see online about the Canyon devolves into paranoia about Satanism, which to me is just a distraction, at best, and largely spawned from organized disinfo. & 2) I think I've mentioned that I worked in the Canyon and up in Wonderland for several years (mid-oughts thru the early 2010s) and I'm just kind of expecting to run into things that I know to be fundamentally untrue, which will piss me off. Maybe this book isn't like that and I've just downloaded an epub of it, which I will poke, though. But it's just so often that you find things or people with whom you have personal experiences become sensationalized in a way that makes money but has very little resemblance to reality. It's true that I was not there (or alive for that matter) in the 60s. With regards to the podcast, I'd become aware of Jonna Mendez a couple of years ago I guess when she did that Wired interview and then a reddit AMA. And I'd found the crumbs she doled out fascinating, but it wasn't until this podcast that I wondered if the weird masked Pauls were so not (just) to hide injuries or to try to 'make him look more like Paul' but because the guy(s) were agents in actual pro-disguise. What did you think of the Whole Elephant letter? |
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Post by timmyb52 on May 17, 2020 2:33:26 GMT -5
All very interesting stuff K...very interesting! The Scorpions being from Germany might have links to our theories about how The Beatles early integration as a device for social engineering by ex-Nazi fascist and Illuminati cabalists might have had its start in Hamburg...especially as it served as a major industrial center of Nazi power. I am absolutely inclined to believe that. I, also, think there was at least one entire set of German Beatles. And that Astrid et al were their handlers. And there were also close ties between Liverpool, specifically, and Germany. I'm on the fence about the fingers and ears. Could they have been a punishment? Sure. Could they have also just been a way to mark and identify 'members' or…'property'? Yeah. --- we're only seeing part of the elephant with that one, I think. I have not read that book for a couple of reasons. 1) Almost everything I see online about the Canyon devolves into paranoia about Satanism, which to me is just a distraction, at best, and largely spawned from organized disinfo. & 2) I think I've mentioned that I worked in the Canyon and up in Wonderland for several years (mid-oughts thru the early 2010s) and I'm just kind of expecting to run into things that I know to be fundamentally untrue, which will piss me off. Maybe this book isn't like that and I've just downloaded an epub of it, which I will poke, though. But it's just so often that you find things or people with whom you have personal experiences become sensationalized in a way that makes money but has very little resemblance to reality. It's true that I was not there (or alive for that matter) in the 60s. With regards to the podcast, I'd become aware of Jonna Mendez a couple of years ago I guess when she did that Wired interview and then a reddit AMA. And I'd found the crumbs she doled out fascinating, but it wasn't until this podcast that I wondered if the weird masked Pauls were so not (just) to hide injuries or to try to 'make him look more like Paul' but because the guy(s) were agents in actual pro-disguise. What did you think of the Whole Elephant letter? Although I found the podcasts interesting...I'm on the fence concerning certain segments of it. Deeper research is needed IMHO...so, at this time I will keep my thoughts on The Elephant Letter to myself until I can do some more digging into this. But the huge Nazi/Fascist/Cabal connections are very strong IMHO. Several classic books on the infiltration of Nazi/ Fascist ideology into American culture/economics/technology/military/intelligence and politics after WW2 show definitively IMHO that this did happen and is having a major influence on what we are seeing today play out on our TV screens with the massive practice of propaganda messaging by the major news networks and politicians. It appears to me that this "plan" to lead us into a fascist world order has been a long one...since the end of WW2...and that it is now trying to position itself into a global economic and political force. IMHO...it does appear as if there is some type of "silent war" going on behind the scenes by several different factions vying for power and influence over the masses. It also appears to me as if this "silent war" is nearing a resolution of some kind. One of these factions looks on the brink of winning it ALL after 60-70 years of war with one another secretly. Whatever happens...the world will never be the same IMHO. |
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 17, 2020 3:33:24 GMT -5
I am absolutely inclined to believe that. I, also, think there was at least one entire set of German Beatles. And that Astrid et al were their handlers. And there were also close ties between Liverpool, specifically, and Germany. I'm on the fence about the fingers and ears. Could they have been a punishment? Sure. Could they have also just been a way to mark and identify 'members' or…'property'? Yeah. --- we're only seeing part of the elephant with that one, I think. I have not read that book for a couple of reasons. 1) Almost everything I see online about the Canyon devolves into paranoia about Satanism, which to me is just a distraction, at best, and largely spawned from organized disinfo. & 2) I think I've mentioned that I worked in the Canyon and up in Wonderland for several years (mid-oughts thru the early 2010s) and I'm just kind of expecting to run into things that I know to be fundamentally untrue, which will piss me off. Maybe this book isn't like that and I've just downloaded an epub of it, which I will poke, though. But it's just so often that you find things or people with whom you have personal experiences become sensationalized in a way that makes money but has very little resemblance to reality. It's true that I was not there (or alive for that matter) in the 60s. With regards to the podcast, I'd become aware of Jonna Mendez a couple of years ago I guess when she did that Wired interview and then a reddit AMA. And I'd found the crumbs she doled out fascinating, but it wasn't until this podcast that I wondered if the weird masked Pauls were so not (just) to hide injuries or to try to 'make him look more like Paul' but because the guy(s) were agents in actual pro-disguise. What did you think of the Whole Elephant letter? Although I found the podcasts interesting...I'm on the fence concerning certain segments of it. Deeper research is needed IMHO...so, at this time I will keep my thoughts on The Elephant Letter to myself until I can do some more digging into this. But the huge Nazi/Fascist/Cabal connections are very strong IMHO. Several classic books on the infiltration of Nazi/ Fascist ideology into American culture/economics/technology/military/intelligence and politics after WW2 show definitively IMHO that this did happen and is having a major influence on what we are seeing today play out on our TV screens with the massive practice of propaganda messaging by the major news networks and politicians. It appears to me that this "plan" to lead us into a fascist world order has been a long one...since the end of WW2...and that it is now trying to position itself into a global economic and political force. IMHO...it does appear as if there is some type of "silent war" going on behind the scenes by several different factions vying for power and influence over the masses. It also appears to me as if this "silent war" is nearing a resolution of some kind. One of these factions looks on the brink of winning it ALL after 60-70 years of war with one another secretly. Whatever happens...the world will never be the same IMHO. I didn’t believe the singer during his interview in the final episode at all. Like I’m not sure he said a single word that rang true. I, also, thought it was obvious that the Russian ‘translator’ was a spy and playing the guy. I’m curious about your hesitations. My assumption is you’re considering whether certain segments are disinfo and, given who the journalist is pals with, I’d have to assume that’s the case. But I don’t think the inquiry, itself, was initiated to obfuscate. Amongst other things, I think what this series helped drive home and provide evidence for is that the Cold War never ended. This song, the wall coming down, all the celebratory fanfare and memorialization was all show. It was a fake win. And reflects upon the fake wins of WWII, Iraq, …the 2000 & 2016 elections…, etc. Who benefits/ed from tricking people into believing the Cold War ended? Reagan and the KGB. &, by extension, the GOP and Mogilevich, his hand puppet Putin, and their cronies and allies, including the Saudis. The fascist, authoritarian, totalitarian plutocracy aspired to by the cabal of the GOP, leftover/neo-KGB and global oligarchs/mobsters has infiltrated and infected Western Democracy like a lethal virus. And not dissimilarly to how that fundamentally malfeasant bloc convinced their sycophants that CV19 is a hoax, they’ve also misdirected and mindfucked their adherents into believing that their enemies are guilty of everything they, themselves, engage in, as policy, while their cult remains hypnotically blind to the very real, documented, hybrid warfare they are engaged in against the citizens of the world. And it’s not coincidental that the GOP openly courts White Nationalists; their values, if you want to call them that, are the same. What these followers continue to fail to grasp, however, is that the tribalism their heroes excite them with, if won as a way of life, will leave them in the cold; moneyed men in back rooms who piss oil are the tribe and the rest are sorted as useful fools or impediments. We’re under attack by a collective of conmen and kings who aspire to a return to feudalism. And they’re winning because the people and things, including ideas, that enlightened societies value are all acceptable, even welcome, collateral damage to those intent upon subjugating civilization: the more chaos and trauma, the better. You know that I take issue with what I see as ‘black and white baby thinking’, imagined good v evil paradigms, with no space for nuance or reasoned thought. But there are really no elements, whatsoever, of efforts toward the greater good in the political game plan of this faction of cartoon villains. Individually, some of them undoubtedly have soft spots of humanity in them, but collectively they’re a sociopathic Borg; sore thumbs are broken off, not accommodated. The CIA has always been grey and rogue and I don’t doubt other nations have agencies that split their energy between and even co-mingle genuinely well meaning endeavors and abuses of power (that serve no purpose but to further empower and enrich those who already hold the lion’s share of both, at the expense of everyone and everything else). The mores espoused by the US Constitution, the founding documents of most other Western republics/democracies and objectives set by bodies like the UN, the Hague, WHO, etc. are ‘white hat’ in their ethics and egalitarianism. That those who callously, viciously, gleefully rape, pillage, pollute, enslave and murder their fellow men and the planet have managed to convince so many (foot soldiers of their own demise) that these organizations are nefarious, that the Extinction Level Events we face in Climate Change and, now, CV19 are hoaxes, and, almost laughably, that education and experience are qualities of which one should be mistrustful, all while they line their pockets on entirely avoidable human tragedies is a tragedy, in and of itself. If ever there was a time where its been obvious what the benefits of collective governance are and the reliably abject failure of facing global crises with patchwork approaches, especially ones that prioritize markets and the few who benefit from them, over the greater good, it is now. |
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Post by timmyb52 on May 18, 2020 11:58:50 GMT -5
Although I found the podcasts interesting...I'm on the fence concerning certain segments of it. Deeper research is needed IMHO...so, at this time I will keep my thoughts on The Elephant Letter to myself until I can do some more digging into this. But the huge Nazi/Fascist/Cabal connections are very strong IMHO. Several classic books on the infiltration of Nazi/ Fascist ideology into American culture/economics/technology/military/intelligence and politics after WW2 show definitively IMHO that this did happen and is having a major influence on what we are seeing today play out on our TV screens with the massive practice of propaganda messaging by the major news networks and politicians. It appears to me that this "plan" to lead us into a fascist world order has been a long one...since the end of WW2...and that it is now trying to position itself into a global economic and political force. IMHO...it does appear as if there is some type of "silent war" going on behind the scenes by several different factions vying for power and influence over the masses. It also appears to me as if this "silent war" is nearing a resolution of some kind. One of these factions looks on the brink of winning it ALL after 60-70 years of war with one another secretly. Whatever happens...the world will never be the same IMHO. I didn’t believe the singer during his interview in the final episode at all. Like I’m not sure he said a single word that rang true. I, also, thought it was obvious that the Russian ‘translator’ was a spy and playing the guy. I’m curious about your hesitations. My assumption is you’re considering whether certain segments are disinfo and, given who the journalist is pals with, I’d have to assume that’s the case. But I don’t think the inquiry, itself, was initiated to obfuscate. Amongst other things, I think what this series helped drive home and provide evidence for is that the Cold War never ended. This song, the wall coming down, all the celebratory fanfare and memorialization was all show. It was a fake win. And reflects upon the fake wins of WWII, Iraq, …the 2000 & 2016 elections…, etc. Who benefits/ed from tricking people into believing the Cold War ended? Reagan and the KGB. &, by extension, the GOP and Mogilevich, his hand puppet Putin, and their cronies and allies, including the Saudis. The fascist, authoritarian, totalitarian plutocracy aspired to by the cabal of the GOP, leftover/neo-KGB and global oligarchs/mobsters has infiltrated and infected Western Democracy like a lethal virus. And not dissimilarly to how that fundamentally malfeasant bloc convinced their sycophants that CV19 is a hoax, they’ve also misdirected and mindfucked their adherents into believing that their enemies are guilty of everything they, themselves, engage in, as policy, while their cult remains hypnotically blind to the very real, documented, hybrid warfare they are engaged in against the citizens of the world. And it’s not coincidental that the GOP openly courts White Nationalists; their values, if you want to call them that, are the same. What these followers continue to fail to grasp, however, is that the tribalism their heroes excite them with, if won as a way of life, will leave them in the cold; moneyed men in back rooms who piss oil are the tribe and the rest are sorted as useful fools or impediments. We’re under attack by a collective of conmen and kings who aspire to a return to feudalism. And they’re winning because the people and things, including ideas, that enlightened societies value are all acceptable, even welcome, collateral damage to those intent upon subjugating civilization: the more chaos and trauma, the better. You know that I take issue with what I see as ‘black and white baby thinking’, imagined good v evil paradigms, with no space for nuance or reasoned thought. But there are really no elements, whatsoever, of efforts toward the greater good in the political game plan of this faction of cartoon villains. Individually, some of them undoubtedly have soft spots of humanity in them, but collectively they’re a sociopathic Borg; sore thumbs are broken off, not accommodated. The CIA has always been grey and rogue and I don’t doubt other nations have agencies that split their energy between and even co-mingle genuinely well meaning endeavors and abuses of power (that serve no purpose but to further empower and enrich those who already hold the lion’s share of both, at the expense of everyone and everything else). The mores espoused by the US Constitution, the founding documents of most other Western republics/democracies and objectives set by bodies like the UN, the Hague, WHO, etc. are ‘white hat’ in their ethics and egalitarianism. That those who callously, viciously, gleefully rape, pillage, pollute, enslave and murder their fellow men and the planet have managed to convince so many (foot soldiers of their own demise) that these organizations are nefarious, that the Extinction Level Events we face in Climate Change and, now, CV19 are hoaxes, and, almost laughably, that education and experience are qualities of which one should be mistrustful, all while they line their pockets on entirely avoidable human tragedies is a tragedy, in and of itself. If ever there was a time where its been obvious what the benefits of collective governance are and the reliably abject failure of facing global crises with patchwork approaches, especially ones that prioritize markets and the few who benefit from them, over the greater good, it is now. Yes K...you have voiced the majority of my own secret concerns and fears! What we are ALLOWED to see,know and understand is controlled by access to information by intelligence agencies and government "leaders". We are "spoon fed" only what they deem us to know. This concerns ALL data and information on ALL things and subjects. Who controls the information...and its access controls ALL. The end of the Cold War was a shift away from conventional warfare into intelligence/informational warfare IMHO. And yes K...it was a lie...a carefully utilized psy-op. But yes K...I am in large agreement with you on all aspects you touched upon. As touching the Q phenomena also...I fear this could be a psy-op within a psy-op device for one elite branch (i.e. the side who wins the intelligence war) to usher in their new vision over the world in oppostion to the old elites (the loser) NWO vision. Basically...we have exchanged one elite class for a nrw elite class. Ideologically opposed in many ways from one another in terms of "control"...but yet elites nontheless. But maybe...it is ALL just smoke and mirrors...good vs evil psradigm bullshit. The LEFT...is also not without sin K...and are also very "socialist/marxist" driven. Especially as it concerns Chinese communist ideology and social influence. The LEFT/RIGHT paradigms are themselves divisive...systems of control. It is very possible this is indeed a massive psy-op within a psy-op operation. |
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 18, 2020 18:40:33 GMT -5
I didn’t believe the singer during his interview in the final episode at all. Like I’m not sure he said a single word that rang true. I, also, thought it was obvious that the Russian ‘translator’ was a spy and playing the guy. I’m curious about your hesitations. My assumption is you’re considering whether certain segments are disinfo and, given who the journalist is pals with, I’d have to assume that’s the case. But I don’t think the inquiry, itself, was initiated to obfuscate. Amongst other things, I think what this series helped drive home and provide evidence for is that the Cold War never ended. This song, the wall coming down, all the celebratory fanfare and memorialization was all show. It was a fake win. And reflects upon the fake wins of WWII, Iraq, …the 2000 & 2016 elections…, etc. Who benefits/ed from tricking people into believing the Cold War ended? Reagan and the KGB. &, by extension, the GOP and Mogilevich, his hand puppet Putin, and their cronies and allies, including the Saudis. The fascist, authoritarian, totalitarian plutocracy aspired to by the cabal of the GOP, leftover/neo-KGB and global oligarchs/mobsters has infiltrated and infected Western Democracy like a lethal virus. And not dissimilarly to how that fundamentally malfeasant bloc convinced their sycophants that CV19 is a hoax, they’ve also misdirected and mindfucked their adherents into believing that their enemies are guilty of everything they, themselves, engage in, as policy, while their cult remains hypnotically blind to the very real, documented, hybrid warfare they are engaged in against the citizens of the world. And it’s not coincidental that the GOP openly courts White Nationalists; their values, if you want to call them that, are the same. What these followers continue to fail to grasp, however, is that the tribalism their heroes excite them with, if won as a way of life, will leave them in the cold; moneyed men in back rooms who piss oil are the tribe and the rest are sorted as useful fools or impediments. We’re under attack by a collective of conmen and kings who aspire to a return to feudalism. And they’re winning because the people and things, including ideas, that enlightened societies value are all acceptable, even welcome, collateral damage to those intent upon subjugating civilization: the more chaos and trauma, the better. You know that I take issue with what I see as ‘black and white baby thinking’, imagined good v evil paradigms, with no space for nuance or reasoned thought. But there are really no elements, whatsoever, of efforts toward the greater good in the political game plan of this faction of cartoon villains. Individually, some of them undoubtedly have soft spots of humanity in them, but collectively they’re a sociopathic Borg; sore thumbs are broken off, not accommodated. The CIA has always been grey and rogue and I don’t doubt other nations have agencies that split their energy between and even co-mingle genuinely well meaning endeavors and abuses of power (that serve no purpose but to further empower and enrich those who already hold the lion’s share of both, at the expense of everyone and everything else). The mores espoused by the US Constitution, the founding documents of most other Western republics/democracies and objectives set by bodies like the UN, the Hague, WHO, etc. are ‘white hat’ in their ethics and egalitarianism. That those who callously, viciously, gleefully rape, pillage, pollute, enslave and murder their fellow men and the planet have managed to convince so many (foot soldiers of their own demise) that these organizations are nefarious, that the Extinction Level Events we face in Climate Change and, now, CV19 are hoaxes, and, almost laughably, that education and experience are qualities of which one should be mistrustful, all while they line their pockets on entirely avoidable human tragedies is a tragedy, in and of itself. If ever there was a time where its been obvious what the benefits of collective governance are and the reliably abject failure of facing global crises with patchwork approaches, especially ones that prioritize markets and the few who benefit from them, over the greater good, it is now. Yes K...you have voiced the majority of my own secret concerns and fears! What we are ALLOWED to see,know and understand is controlled by access to information by intelligence agencies and government "leaders". We are "spoon fed" only what they deem us to know. This concerns ALL data and information on ALL things and subjects. Who controls the information...and its access controls ALL. The end of the Cold War was a shift away from conventional warfare into intelligence/informational warfare IMHO. And yes K...it was a lie...a carefully utilized psy-op. But yes K...I am in large agreement with you on all aspects you touched upon. As touching the Q phenomena also...I fear this could be a psy-op within a psy-op device for one elite branch (i.e. the side who wins the intelligence war) to usher in their new vision over the world in oppostion to the old elites (the loser) NWO vision. Basically...we have exchanged one elite class for a nrw elite class. Ideologically opposed in many ways from one another in terms of "control"...but yet elites nontheless. But maybe...it is ALL just smoke and mirrors...good vs evil psradigm bullshit. The LEFT...is also not without sin K...and are also very "socialist/marxist" driven. Especially as it concerns Chinese communist ideology and social influence. The LEFT/RIGHT paradigms are themselves divisive...systems of control. It is very possible this is indeed a massive psy-op within a psy-op operation. Will respond more later on but you should take a look at the Neo-Feudalism article I posted (and ran across) this morning. It breaks down our current economic paradigm, quite well I think, and also, soberingly, breaks apart many of the proposed solutions from the Left (& Libertarians). |
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 19, 2020 0:46:24 GMT -5
Yes K...you have voiced the majority of my own secret concerns and fears! What we are ALLOWED to see,know and understand is controlled by access to information by intelligence agencies and government "leaders". We are "spoon fed" only what they deem us to know. This concerns ALL data and information on ALL things and subjects. Who controls the information...and its access controls ALL. The end of the Cold War was a shift away from conventional warfare into intelligence/informational warfare IMHO. And yes K...it was a lie...a carefully utilized psy-op. But yes K...I am in large agreement with you on all aspects you touched upon. As touching the Q phenomena also...I fear this could be a psy-op within a psy-op device for one elite branch (i.e. the side who wins the intelligence war) to usher in their new vision over the world in oppostion to the old elites (the loser) NWO vision. Basically...we have exchanged one elite class for a nrw elite class. Ideologically opposed in many ways from one another in terms of "control"...but yet elites nontheless. But maybe...it is ALL just smoke and mirrors...good vs evil psradigm bullshit. The LEFT...is also not without sin K...and are also very "socialist/marxist" driven. Especially as it concerns Chinese communist ideology and social influence. The LEFT/RIGHT paradigms are themselves divisive...systems of control. It is very possible this is indeed a massive psy-op within a psy-op operation. |
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 19, 2020 8:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 19, 2020 9:36:45 GMT -5
If you think Clarence Thomas and Ruth Bader Ginsberg vote the same way on cases, or that who is appointing judges is irrelevant, then there’s really no way to have a conversation with you about this.…
If you were to say that you, honestly, believe that Obama would be handling CV19 the way Trump has, that Elizabeth Warren is just as likely as Trump to be pals with a guy like Epstein, that Joe Biden has been a racist career criminal acting as a CI to keep himself out of prison for the last forty years…you would simply be wrong.
There is no equivalence.
And Socialism, actual socialism which means garbage collection, local police, the Social Security and Disability Safety Net, K-12 Education, stop lights, mail service, municipal water works, etc. are good things that shore up a civil society. We have seen the abject destruction that inevitably follows when basic needs are privatized under capitalism and now in our Brave New Neo-Feudal World.
If you think Jimmy Carter and Mitt Romney advocate for the same handling of multi-conglomerates, you’re wrong.
And these are not abstractions. These are very real decisions being made by mortal men which change the courses of people’s lives, including killing them, every single day.
Marxism doesn’t exist. There is no real world example of any form of actual real communism, only dictatorships which try (and fail) at softening their images by using the C word. My stepfather, a philosophy professor who got his doctorate at Oxford, considers himself a Marxist. He hates the homeless and buys $40/lb cheeses. Marxism doesn’t exist.
Your vision of (let’s just call them) The Illuminati, sounds exactly like The Old Testament God, to me, in its wrath, omniscience and power.
If this “group” has a dark plan, why would they allow The Paris Climate Accord or the partial passage of the AMA? Why would any nation or state without a right wing leader or interference from right wing provocateurs be allowed to try to protect their citizens from CV19? What purpose would this decades long slow as shit American decent into kakistocracy serve, while most other Western nations thrive and prosper under increasingly liberal policies created by people who can read three syllable words, when every country on earth could have been nuked and sent into total chaos and calamity since the 40s? Does that make sense, if this secretive body controls everything and can do anything and, if the objective is global enslavement? It doesn’t make sense to me. What seems much more likely, based upon recorded recent history and events we’ve personally been witness to, is that there’s a well known group of Evil Doers, already named in a previous post, who are slowly gathering power, as they brainwash people with things like bothsiderism, and a much larger global coalition who, while imperfect, are fighting against them for the greater good and the sustainment of anything resembling civil society, as we’ve known it.
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Post by timmyb52 on May 19, 2020 14:11:06 GMT -5
Yes K...you have voiced the majority of my own secret concerns and fears! What we are ALLOWED to see,know and understand is controlled by access to information by intelligence agencies and government "leaders". We are "spoon fed" only what they deem us to know. This concerns ALL data and information on ALL things and subjects. Who controls the information...and its access controls ALL. The end of the Cold War was a shift away from conventional warfare into intelligence/informational warfare IMHO. And yes K...it was a lie...a carefully utilized psy-op. But yes K...I am in large agreement with you on all aspects you touched upon. As touching the Q phenomena also...I fear this could be a psy-op within a psy-op device for one elite branch (i.e. the side who wins the intelligence war) to usher in their new vision over the world in oppostion to the old elites (the loser) NWO vision. Basically...we have exchanged one elite class for a nrw elite class. Ideologically opposed in many ways from one another in terms of "control"...but yet elites nontheless. But maybe...it is ALL just smoke and mirrors...good vs evil psradigm bullshit. The LEFT...is also not without sin K...and are also very "socialist/marxist" driven. Especially as it concerns Chinese communist ideology and social influence. The LEFT/RIGHT paradigms are themselves divisive...systems of control. It is very possible this is indeed a massive psy-op within a psy-op operation. Will respond more later on but you should take a look at the Neo-Feudalism article I posted (and ran across) this morning. It breaks down our current economic paradigm, quite well I think, and also, soberingly, breaks apart many of the proposed solutions from the Left (& Libertarians).  I read the other article you posted on "The End of Capitalism" and I do think this is part of an overall objective by elites. That is to either end capitalism altogether...or replace it with a neo- capitalism based on a world digital currency of some sort. A new money slave system that is easier to track and maintain. There is talk of a new system like this called BRIC's. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICSSo...in short...I believe what we might be seeing is just a SHOW...a carefully scripted series of events which lead us ALL (asleep and awake) to the elites desired outcome. Where We Go One We Go All...can have multiple meanings...even possibly deceptive and manipulative. A new economic,cultural and political paradigm that could be likened to a new renaissaince in world history could also be presented as a "Great Awakening". The Q phenomena would just be the deeper aspect of the psy-op to fool those who consider themselves AWAKE and AWARE. This would be necessary since the advent of the internet and our reliance on technology is now creating the need to control the masses less through economics but more through technological addiction and dependence. Anyways...those are just some of my random thoughts on how present day events could possibly play out. I will read the article you mentioned soon...and give my thoughts on it. Hope..I didn't bore you K. |
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Post by timmyb52 on May 19, 2020 14:39:12 GMT -5
I have noticed another technique being utilized...projection! www.everydayhealth.com/emotional-health/psychological-projection-dealing-with-undesirable-emotions/Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings. Have you ever disliked someone only to become convinced that the person had a vendetta against you? This is a common example of psychological projection. Luckily, there are methods you can use to identify why you are projecting your emotions and put a stop to this coping mechanism. Both the LEFT and RIGHT are utilizing this technique today on a massive scale in conjunction with their current use and control of the media as a tool of propaganda which is controlled by government intelligence agencies IMHO. Both sides are guilty of lies,theft,breaking the law and outright hypocrisy! They are two sides of the same coin. But every 4 years they fool us into accepting the lesser of two evils. IT IS A SCRIPT...a SHOW! 
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Post by timmyb52 on May 19, 2020 14:50:22 GMT -5
If you think Clarence Thomas and Ruth Bader Ginsberg vote the same way on cases, or that who is appointing judges is irrelevant, then there’s really no way to have a conversation with you about this.… If you were to say that you, honestly, believe that Obama would be handling CV19 the way Trump has, that Elizabeth Warren is just as likely as Trump to be pals with a guy like Epstein, that Joe Biden has been a racist career criminal acting as a CI to keep himself out of prison for the last forty years…you would simply be wrong. There is no equivalence. And Socialism, actual socialism which means garbage collection, local police, the Social Security and Disability Safety Net, K-12 Education, stop lights, mail service, municipal water works, etc. are good things that shore up a civil society. We have seen the abject destruction that inevitably follows when basic needs are privatized under capitalism and now in our Brave New Neo-Feudal World. If you think Jimmy Carter and Mitt Romney advocate for the same handling of multi-conglomerates, you’re wrong. And these are not abstractions. These are very real decisions being made by mortal men which change the courses of people’s lives, including killing them, every single day. Marxism doesn’t exist. There is no real world example of any form of actual real communism, only dictatorships which try (and fail) at softening their images by using the C word. My stepfather, a philosophy professor who got his doctorate at Oxford, considers himself a Marxist. He hates the homeless and buys $40/lb cheeses. Marxism doesn’t exist. Your vision of (let’s just call them) The Illuminati, sounds exactly like The Old Testament God, to me, in its wrath, omniscience and power. If this “group” has a dark plan, why would they allow The Paris Climate Accord or the partial passage of the AMA? Why would any nation or state without a right wing leader or interference from right wing provocateurs be allowed to try to protect their citizens from CV19? What purpose would this decades long slow as shit American decent into kakistocracy serve, while most other Western nations thrive and prosper under increasingly liberal policies created by people who can read three syllable words, when every country on earth could have been nuked and sent into total chaos and calamity since the 40s? Does that make sense, if this secretive body controls everything and can do anything and, if the objective is global enslavement? It doesn’t make sense to me. What seems much more likely, based upon recorded recent history and events we’ve personally been witness to, is that there’s a well known group of Evil Doers, already named in a previous post, who are slowly gathering power, as they brainwash people with things like bothsiderism, and a much larger global coalition who, while imperfect, are fighting against them for the greater good and the sustainment of anything resembling civil society, as we’ve known it. I see both sides as equal opprtunity power mongers...THEY only really care about power and nothing more. THEY will say and do anything to maintain it. When THEY do anything for the benefit of WE THE PEOPLE...it is never done in the name of goodness and common sense morality...it is done to maintain POWER for themselves. Sorry...but in my eyes THEY are all hypocrites and liars. Anything else is to get yourself trapped and controlled into their LEFT and RIGHT divisive paradigm IMHO.  |
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Post by joseph on May 23, 2020 6:46:13 GMT -5
So there's a secret enclave of Nazis who are replacing Beatles under the noses of powerful Jewish media barons? Not only that one of the replacements has married three Jewesses and regularly plays concerts in Israel? Give me a break.
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Post by timmyb52 on May 24, 2020 18:45:49 GMT -5
So there's a secret enclave of Nazis who are replacing Beatles under the noses of powerful Jewish media barons? Not only that one of the replacements has married three Jewesses and regularly plays concerts in Israel? Give me a break. So...there is a secret enclave of cabalists who want to engineer social programming through The Beatles and will even go so far as to replace/kill one of them in order to do so? If this can be done in music,movies,art,etc...why not also in politics? Poli- Ticks Ticks are external parasites, living by feeding on the blood of others.  |
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Post by lucy on May 24, 2020 20:28:14 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on May 24, 2020 22:21:44 GMT -5
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