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Post by JoJo on Feb 25, 2009 18:11:40 GMT -5
Hey Overdude, thanks for your thoughts. I could change the pitch in Audacity just for the fun of it, but I'm not sure (not musically trained) the correct number of semitones to downshift. If you have Audacity and want to give it a try, you can upload to jojoplace if you like..
IMO, in the Beatles Love version of Hey Jude, they brought to the foreground a vocal that sounds a lot like this unknown take, one minute before the song ends. (but not exactly it either)
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Post by JoJo on Feb 24, 2009 21:34:02 GMT -5
How about how he holds his brew in his left hand?
Interesting tidbits in this book I found while researching the boat matter. Denis was trying to put together ideas and present movie concepts to United Artists, and while you may have heard of this one, he wanted to make a movie of "Lord of the Rings" with the Beatles in key roles. They were excited for a while, and they were discussing who would play which role. So, Denis got a dialog going with Stanley Kubrick, who initially seemed warm to the idea, but amazingly had never read the books. Some time passed, and after reading the books said the idea of making a movie from this story was "impossible". (hah sure) Denis didn't give up and arranged a meeting with the Beatles and Kubrick but.. After talking to SK the Beatles suddenly lost interest, essentially SK talked them out of it.. Too bad!
And how Kubrick was wrong!
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Post by JoJo on Feb 24, 2009 17:55:52 GMT -5
Funny thing about this picture is there are too many people on board. From "At The Apple's Core",by Denis O'Dell, p113: ....and John and Paul, Neil, Brian Lewis, Magic Alex, Derek, Mal and I flew out to New York on 11 May.Then: It was agreed that the first official 'Apple board meeting', as it was billed, should take place somewhere unusual. So on 12 May we spent the day in meetings on a Chinese junk that sailed around the Statue of Liberty. This particular stunt was probably thought up by Derek. At any rate, he entered the spirit of the proceedings with gusto, even donning a sailor's cap. We didn't do much at the inaugural meeting. We took a few photographs on the boat and we had a bit of a chat while circumnavigating the statue. Nothing, at least as I remember it, was discussed of any significance.He also mentions Paul and Linda meeting up later in secret while in NY, but it seems a good bet that she was there, along with other hangers-on that Denis didn't see fit to mention.. Not just the "Apple's core" names mentioned above. A picture of all the core members: And a crop of the guy on the right:
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Post by JoJo on Feb 24, 2009 16:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Feb 23, 2009 17:59:10 GMT -5
Welcome Absolutely Fab! (great name)
I don't know if you could say the Neil thing was ever conclusively proven. (it's a long story AF) If you take the point of view that it's the message not the man, then there were things that were at least worth thinking over, at least IMO and the opinions of others.
One thing to come of this, and I don't remember if ever I mentioned it here, I ended up buying an autograph of Neil on Ebay. I was satisfied that it was for real, because the gentleman selling it had a picture of himself and Neil, with Neil in the process of signing.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 22, 2009 15:33:45 GMT -5
I think she means the conversation is veering off topic.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 21, 2009 22:42:08 GMT -5
Just an observation from standing in the checkout line, but they seem to always be right when they say someone is going to die soon. On the other hand.. Anything involving MJ makes one wonder if it's yet another desperate plea for publicity. Would this be the first time?
UPDATE: According to a statement from Jackson's official spokesperson, Dr. Tohme Tohme, the reports of Michael's respiratory disease are a "total fabrication."
An old trick of journalists is to state the terrible rumor and "demand that it be stopped", even though they made it up in the first place. (With thanks to Derek Taylor for this observation) Might apply to spokespersons too?
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Post by JoJo on Feb 21, 2009 18:42:29 GMT -5
Has this forum now become a place only for people who believe that Paul was replaced temporarily or not replaced at all ? If so, I will be happy to leave here for good.
It's the current topic of discussion of late, by those who feel strongly about it.. I think that describes the situation accurately? Who knows, perhaps some other topic will bump this one, that's the fluid nature of internet forums. (especially one that allows all points of view to be discussed)
OK, I know some who frequent MFH may feel when they come here, their points of view are not welcomed at all, but we at least start from the premise that Paul was replaced.. If you're not on board with that, then you probably aren't going to find your points are well received.
Other than that, and I'm reminded of this because of the recent five year anniversary, the discussion amongst the original founders was that we needed a place where differing ideas were not constrained by a moderator or moderators who ban or otherwise chastise those who don't tow the line.. To, oh I dunno, a document written in Nepalese?
NIR should stay what it is, a place for an assortment of differing views. Those that spin off their own forums so they can have a place they want to discuss their own views, more power to them, and D66H, they have the right to admit or deny anyone they wish.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 21, 2009 10:10:19 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Feb 20, 2009 21:12:29 GMT -5
I have another pic from the "Apple Core" book, which I will post tomorrow, remind me if I forget..
I must say it seems pretty likely to me the guy on the right is Derek, because: The picture I have is taken on the boat, Derek is sitting where the Beatle Book guy is sitting, and Derek is wearing a white jacket with blue stripes. Yeah the other pic is B/W, but the stripes are there. (He is also holding a Red Stripe beer bottle in his right hand, go figure)
He still does evoke the "Pepper Paul" image tho doesn't he?
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Post by JoJo on Feb 19, 2009 18:50:39 GMT -5
It was August of 1968, Issue #61.
I had to spend a dollar or two, and all for one damned picture, but I have this magazine on order. It's coming from Ireland, so it will take a bit of time, but I'll do a scan when I get it.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 18, 2009 18:56:25 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Feb 18, 2009 18:32:03 GMT -5
LB, did you buy a converter box? I don't rely on over the air broadcasts, but at my late grandparents' place (which is still in the family) we installed the box. Amazed, because the analog VHF broadcasts from Boston were always pretty scratchy, sorta clear but noticeably noisy. This is with a gigantic rooftop antenna, but a good 125 miles from the transmitters I'd estimate. (also on a small mountain and luckily pointed in the right direction) Well, turns out the digital signal comes in, so it's like getting a cable TV signal for free. I know there are some however who could get something "watchable" with analog, but don't meet the signal strength threshold to get anything at all now.. Not so good in that circumstance. Or perhaps it's not so bad, maybe people will pick up books en masse.. Uh oh, heh.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 18, 2009 18:18:58 GMT -5
I'll reserve your name and give you your 105 posts back..
See you in two months.
Couldn't be done any other way, sorry.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 17, 2009 19:00:34 GMT -5
And the anniversary came and went, forgot that it was yesterday, oh well. The thing at the bottom of the main page is off by a couple of days for some reason.
The main admin account was created on Feb 16, 2004, so that's the birthday.
Can't believe it's been that long!
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Post by JoJo on Feb 17, 2009 18:09:37 GMT -5
the funny thing is that many of you already have this photo somewhere in your Beatles books.... Very clever.. I get it now.. Issue 61 of "The Beatles Book" (August 1968) I don't have the actual paper and ink version, have quite a few, but not this one. But some kind soul (you know who you are) gave me the electronic version of every issue. Everyone may rest assured it is exactly as he posted it here.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 17, 2009 17:48:40 GMT -5
Hah, you keep saying that.. I think the point you are missing is not whether the picture proves anything necessarily, it may or may not, but.. Step one is seeing the source in a context other than a post from someone who hasn't built up the "trust capital" that a long time member would.. I hope you understand and take no offense. I have a lot of Beatle books, no secret there, and while there's no way I remember each and every photo I've run across, anything related to the Apple announcement or for that matter any situation where the photos are in short supply would get my attention for sure.. Probably would have posted them long ago. Still have no idea. If this is from a rare book, for example that Derek Taylor/George Harrison one, then forget it.. I don't have the spare two grand or so to pick it up on Ebay next go 'round. May get cheaper with the economic situation, but anyway.. Cheers D66H.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 17, 2009 15:28:24 GMT -5
Double LOL! See, this is why Red Lion is my favorite moderator... (no offense, Jo!) ;D None taken, RL cracks me up too.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 16, 2009 18:50:47 GMT -5
Heh. LB, I'm pretty sure you're over 13..
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Post by JoJo on Feb 16, 2009 17:33:49 GMT -5
Welcome back Miles. I think he's wishing a belated happy Valentine's day.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 16, 2009 17:27:18 GMT -5
I don't know the source still.. A magazine spread perhaps? I think the Paul in the middle whose face is easy to see is the same one with the "golden apple", just judging by the clothes. The others are mystery men, close enough to maybe raise some questions anyway IMO.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 16, 2009 17:17:10 GMT -5
Anyone who signs up for membership at this or any other Proboards forum must be 13 years of age or older, NO exceptions. It's a violation of Proboards terms of service, but more importantly it's a violation of US federal law to participate if you are under 13. More info about the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act here: www.coppa.org/
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Post by JoJo on Feb 15, 2009 17:50:27 GMT -5
Yes please Dark66Horse, these photos don't pop up out of nowhere.. Book, magazine, rare book perhaps? Yeah I noticed that third Paul just a minute ago, very odd. Anyone know who any of the other people on the boat are? Or if they are Beatle related? The bald guy looks like the guy on the small private plane from that trip to Colorado with Mal in 1967. Hmm.. there was a meeting on a boat in New York in 1968.. Source: At The Apple's Core: www.amazon.co.uk/At-Apples-Core-Beatles-%2522Beatles%2522/dp/0720611164
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Post by JoJo on Feb 15, 2009 10:30:06 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Feb 14, 2009 14:47:03 GMT -5
Yeah I know.. And I'm paid in advance until the end of the year..Chapter 11 doesn't always mean the end of the business, although of late, it often does.
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