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Post by JoJo on Mar 22, 2009 17:18:43 GMT -5
A look at the cover of Salvador's book: I would say Mr. Astucia writes about the topic of Lennon's assassination in a way most authors in the subject do not, in that he endeavors to connect the dots in a new way. It's perhaps time to look at the circumstances of John's death as objectively as possible, for example you just can't ignore Perdomo's affiliation with the Bay of Pigs invasion, possible CIA connections, etc. I'd also say it's one of the best books I've read on the subject.. It's fair to say he's also hampered by the same problem we have with our subject matter.. Trying to connect the dots with the information that is publicly available. For example, he tried to acquire a copy of the autopsy report and was told he could only get it with the permission of the next of kin. (fat chance) He was only able to get a police report written in the most terse language possible, hardly something worth building a case for murder. So, I would say he does an amazingly good job working with the deck he is handed.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 19, 2009 15:59:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the info RL. , Here's the thing, two bullets entered John's body and exited to the glass doors. There were only two bullet wounds inflicted here, (two were fired further back) but three glass door hits, indicating a miss perhaps? All the same, if these were MDC's HP bullets, then why the two extra glass door hits? Sorry, I shouldn't have confused the issue with using the plural "doors", my bad. Anyway, three bullet holes were in the glass door, and to further clarify, five shots were fired, four hit Lennon, and three made it to the glass door.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 18, 2009 17:15:09 GMT -5
Was talking to someone recently, and he told me that a friend of his saw a documentary that had something to do with the CIA/mind control/brainwashing. The friend doesn't know much else regarding the title, only that he saw it on Link TV: www.linktv.org/ This is key, the friend said that somewhere in the program it's stated that Jose Perdomo made a deathbed confession to killing Lennon. Now, with all these uncertainties, obviously it would be great to see this to get a handle on the context, how strong an assertion was made, (if any) etc. Problem is, I can't find anything on the Link TV site that could be a strong match. So, if anyone may have seen anything like this, please make a post or PM me. Another matter.. I was digging through the archives of the NY Times in the time frame of the murder and a few months after. Have a look at this: www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/NyTimes_misc/nytimes8_25_81.pdfAllen Sullivan states that on his first trip to New York that lasted from late October through mid November, (remember, MDC was supposed to have planned on killing Lennon on this first trip then changed his mind or couldn't get access to Lennon, whichever) MDC was advised that he shouldn't bring bullets on the plane trip from Hawaii to NYC because the "bullets would be damaged by the air pressure". So, we have the official prosecutor stating that MDC comes to NYC WITHOUT bullets, not because he "forgot" them as other sources have stated. All the same, no bullets means a trip to Georgia to buy hollow point bullets from his "police friend". But wait a second, what the prosecutor seems to forget to mention is that MDC flew to Georgia and back (on this first stay in NY remember) and seems to not have had a problem with the air pressure issue. Then, after seeing the movie "Ordinary People", Mark decides to return to Hawaii. Albert Goldman claimed that Mark threw away the bullets while back home.. Goldman has his detractors true, but the important part is that the gun and bullets made the trip back to Hawaii and of course again to NY in December, for a grand total of three chances for the "air pressure" to damage the bullets. I know someone will of course say that a change in air pressure, especially the minor amount in a pressurized plane would have no effect, (I agree) but the point is that for some weird reason Mark believed it and then didn't believe it, (it would seem) and this has never been addressed anywhere to my knowledge.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 16, 2009 20:29:44 GMT -5
I need to create a new term for the opposite of 'Occam's Razor' which can assume that because of the whimsical nature of the Universe, you can always assume the solution is the least expected and most outrageous explanation possible. ;D I actually rather like that, at least for its capacity for making life a bit more fun.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 16, 2009 20:15:25 GMT -5
Hmm, I was curious about the Usenet posts, so I looked some of them up. If he was known by the Delphi address at the time, and the posting machine did have a Delphi domain, then ROYGBIV@Delphi.com must have been him on the newsgroup. I had Delphi in those days, and there weren't the methods available to fake an email address on your posts like there are today, it was all command line and quite a challenge to get on and post.. Must have been determined. I can see not remembering what you posted, but not forgetting you were involved.. Very strange. Yes, very strange indeed....he seems fearful of something. He said in the interview with Sean that he had to do what he was told or lose his job. Thanks for the info on Delphi, JoJo. I'm sure that someone like MB with the technical expertise on Military Grade lasers would know how to log on to the net (or figure it out) with little difficulty...(those were some very powerful lasers he was using during the shows) I should hasten to add there were ways of faking headers on Usenet posts at the time, but you really really had to know what you were doing. Never mind that, his choice of words is curious, not "I never did that" but "it must have been someone else". Also another thing figures into this: Unlike message boards today, (such as this one) Usenet was set up such that while new posts would bump old ones, they would eventually disappear off the servers entirely, depending on the retention policy of the entities (colleges or commercial) involved. So, there was the mindset at the time that what you wrote would disappear into the ether before too long. Except that stuff was archived and resurrected by Dejanews which was bought by Google.. Oops! It's too bad anon.penet.fi disappeared, but sadly the guy in Finland who ran the service (on his own dime) ran into trouble with anonymous posts to the Scientology groups.. He had to give up some names by court order, and decided he'd had enough. Happy birthday BTW.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 16, 2009 17:58:04 GMT -5
Hmm, I was curious about the Usenet posts, so I looked some of them up. If he was known by the Delphi address at the time, and the posting machine did have a Delphi domain, then ROYGBIV@Delphi.com must have been him on the newsgroup. I had Delphi in those days, and there weren't the methods available to fake an email address on your posts like there are today, it was all command line and quite a challenge to get on and post.. Must have been determined.
I can see not remembering what you posted, but not forgetting you were involved.. Very strange.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 15, 2009 17:25:28 GMT -5
No problem. Good idea to use Firefox anyway.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 15, 2009 9:52:48 GMT -5
The buttons are dependent on Java working correctly in your browser, maybe try another browser? (switch to Firefox if you are using IE, etc.)
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Post by JoJo on Mar 15, 2009 9:50:29 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Mar 13, 2009 4:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Mar 10, 2009 20:23:53 GMT -5
I was able to, but here's Photobucket version:
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Post by JoJo on Mar 9, 2009 16:57:49 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Mar 5, 2009 17:51:15 GMT -5
It was a picture of some other guy before the edit.. Figured it was Ph0neyprophet himself.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 4, 2009 22:03:35 GMT -5
What a great thing for someone with too much money and leisure time. Bbbchords is right, many of us could teach that course or at least get all "A's". Would be like more of an indulgence/vacation than a course of study that leads to a career.. Wish I could do it.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 3, 2009 18:18:30 GMT -5
Salvador has his book online, may have been come up here before? From: www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/Chapter01B.htmFifth, there are several accounts of shattered glass and bullet holes in glass doors; however, the specific location of the doors is somewhat ambiguous. In the book, Who Killed John Lennon?, writer Fenton Bresler presented Police Officer Steve Spiro's personal notes describing the crime scene. Regarding bullet holes in glass doors, Spiro wrote: "Turning to my right with the suspect [Chapman] I see the doorman, another male, and at least three bullet holes in the glass doors. My gun is now pointed toward the doorway."Table of contents: www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/contents.htm
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Post by JoJo on Mar 3, 2009 15:57:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the info RL. , Here's the thing, two bullets entered John's body and exited to the glass doors. There were only two bullet wounds inflicted here, (two were fired further back) but three glass door hits, indicating a miss perhaps? All the same, if these were MDC's HP bullets, then why the two extra glass door hits?
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Post by JoJo on Mar 2, 2009 22:25:08 GMT -5
Taf in a blog post today mentioned the possibility that the guy on the left could have been Ken Mansfield: Possible, and good likelihood that he would be there, but I feel obliged to mention that Denis said that the "Apple's core" in the picture in the previous page flew to New York. Granted he could have been guilty of lazy reporting.. Didn't he realize we would be analyzing every detail?!
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Post by JoJo on Mar 2, 2009 22:03:55 GMT -5
Just got Salvador Astucia's book "Rethinking John Lennon's Assassination". (his name came up for a bit on this thread) The debate between Total and Doc was a while ago, but there was one point brought up.. the hollow point bullets and the story about them being thrown away. Thing is, part of the crime scene evidence were three bullet holes in the glass lobby doors.. Hollow points are designed to NOT exit, right? Did MDC even have bullets in his gun?
If you take the POV that MDC was a mind controlled patsy, it still would be a shock (even to MDC himself who no doubt believes he committed the crime to this day) to discover that he didn't even point a loaded gun.. Makes sense if the whole thing was planned for him to appear to be the shooter while someone else (a professional) did the job. Why chance it?
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Post by JoJo on Mar 2, 2009 21:38:25 GMT -5
Hey Carman, thanks for that, you 'dig it'. Peace and Love.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 2, 2009 17:22:07 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Mar 1, 2009 18:29:10 GMT -5
Guess 3 is the correct answer. I posted the 2 cropped pictures (with and without JPM) to show that JPM (or whoever he was) in order to lean comfortably on the railing and drink and talk to the sailor, had to adjust his body, right arm, back and legs in that particular position (he has a buoy behind his feet). I find very unlikely the existence of an old JPM's picture that fits exactly that situation...and indeed NO ONE has found it in 2 weeks! Ah OK, I see what you were getting at now. I haven't been really looking too hard for a similar JPM picture, but if one did exist, it would open up a whole 'nother can of worms. It would be a deliberate statement at the very least.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 28, 2009 13:48:36 GMT -5
Hmm, I thought in Japan they used stevia as an artificial sweetener in Coke. Could you check into that? Just curious.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 27, 2009 17:14:09 GMT -5
I won't bug you about the source.. (I know better..) BUT.. is this in some way presented as the same picture? I'll buy that it's the area depicted in the JPM-ish guy/mystery man one you originally posted. Hmm, I said there were too many people on that boat..
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Post by JoJo on Feb 26, 2009 18:04:27 GMT -5
I appreciate your efforts Overdude, thanks very much. I guess I can agree that the slowed down version sounds a bit more like the finished (and all the other bootlegs out there) version than it did as is. Eh, it must have been early, and not just based on the theory that it was early fiddling about with a vocal replacement. More of George's guitar, probably before "Paul" told him he didn't want his contributions so much. (see Sir Paul's remarks in Anthology) No centered lead vocal, strictly in the left channel, so no or little mixing.
I'll always kinda like this version the best..
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Post by JoJo on Feb 25, 2009 18:16:47 GMT -5
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