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Post by iameye on Jun 16, 2008 17:28:32 GMT -5
He's dreaming now,' said Tweedledee: 'and what do you think he's dreaming about?'Alice said 'Nobody can guess that.'
'Why, about YOU!' Tweedledee exclaimed, clapping his hands triumphantly. 'And if he left off dreaming about you, where do you suppose you'd be?'
'Where I am now, of course,' said Alice.
'Not you!' Tweedledee retorted contemptuously. 'You'd be nowhere. Why, you're only a sort of thing in his dream!'
nowhere?
now here
you are HERE
I'm only sleeping...........ya know they're runnin' late.........
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Post by iameye on Jun 16, 2008 19:09:18 GMT -5
role play: Miss Almira Gulch/ Wicked Witch of the West [Perhaps from dialectal gulch, to gush, ( of land) to sink in, from Middle English gulchen, to drink greedily, to spew.] gulch (glch) n. A small ravine, especially one cut by a torrent.Al mira through the looking glass Professor Marvel/ Emerald City Doorman/ the Cabbie/The Wizard's Guard/The Wizard of Oz obladi obla da ad bola diablo through (to).......(the) devil's ball, and crystal, at that flower's in the dirt in pink o rama www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-bMZ_clS4M&feature=related
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Post by iameye on Jun 17, 2008 8:00:33 GMT -5
Alice asks how she can get bigger, but the Caterpillar asks her to recite "Old Father William" instead. After doing so (with a few errors), the Caterpillar tells her that one side of the mushroom will make her bigger and the other side will make her smaller. The Caterpillar disappears leaving Alice all alone. Alice first tries the right side, which makes her chin get stuck to her foot. Then she tries the left side, which makes her neck grow very long. A pigeon flies into her face, believing she is a serpent, but Alice tells her that she is a little girl. She then eats different sides of the mushroom and gets back to her usual height.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland
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Post by GN on Jun 17, 2008 10:12:19 GMT -5
interesting info on pearls, also APPENDIX V A FEW OF THE PRINCIPAL CORRESPONDENCES OF THE QABALAH. Pearl. :The Twilight of the Place, :: : : Magic Mirror. sumscorp.com/kavai/newmethods/pages/keyword.php?KeywordID=6054&action=showDefinitions In China the Flaming Pearl was associated with both the supreme spirit and with Kshitagarbha. The flaming pearl was often seen as a metaphor or symbol of spiritual perfection. In Taoism the flaming pearl is linked with the Primordial Heavenly Worthy. holds flaming pearl symbolizing creation of the Universee A pair of dragons chasing a round red object is often represented in Chinese art. The round object is variously described as the sun, the moon, the symbol of thunder rolling, the egg emblem of the dual influences of nature, or the pearl of potentiality. The pearl, chu in Chinese, is one of the Pa-Pao, or Eight Treasures, and a symbol of good augury. The magic wonder-working pearl is also one of the Sapta Ratna, or Seven Treasures, representing the paraphernalia of a Buddhist Chakravartin, or universal sovereign. The pearl is believed to be a charm against fire and is also very important in Buddhism, where it is referred to as cintamani and is seen as an emblem of the Bodhisattva Kshitigarba, who is represented as holding a precious pearl. A flaming pearl as a symbol of the Buddhist doctrine is also found on the tops of pagodas and Buddhist reliquaries. One Chinese legend also states it is an enormous magical pearl with the power to multiply whatever it touches. In ancient China it was believed to symbolize wisdom, the most precious treasure of all, as well as genius and good fortune. The flaming pearl is also seen as the moon or rolling thunder. In Buddhism, the Dragon Pearl symbolizes enlightenment and spiritual essence, and, as guardian of the flaming pearl, the dragon is the symbol of spiritual perfection and power. man on a flaming piPearl Harbor PI (pacific islands) That's really interesting!
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Post by iameye on Jun 17, 2008 21:33:15 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Jun 18, 2008 7:51:04 GMT -5
dialog from yellow sub: www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/y/yellow-submarine-script-transcript-beatles.htmlI think the theory put forward by Einstein
could well be applied here.
The people in the ball are obviously extensions of our own personalities,
suspended, as it were, in time,
frozen in space, according to the now famous Theory of Relativity,
which, briefly explained, is simply a matter of taking two eggs...
- John! - beating lightly
and adding a little salt and pepper...
- John! - George?
- How do we get them out? - Break the glass.
- We can't. It's Beatle-proof. - Nothing is Beatle-proof.
Have you got your drumsticks with you? A drum break might shatter it.
- No, I haven't. - Have a look in your pocket.
I've got a hole in my pocket. I wonder if...
- Yeah, it still works. - We take back all we said.
- You're a genius, a sheer genius. - I know, I know, I know.
- Like coloured telly. - Like crystal.
They're decanting.
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Post by thespacebetween on Jun 30, 2008 3:23:34 GMT -5
...There's another place you can go Where everything flows..
Chapter 5 Wool and Water
'What is it you want to buy?' the Sheep said at last, looking up for a moment from her knitting.
'I don't QUITE know yet,' Alice said, very gently. 'I should like to look all round me first, if I might.'
'You may look in front of you, and on both sides, if you like,' said the Sheep: 'but you can't look ALL round you--unless you've got eyes at the back of your head.'
But these, as it happened, Alice had NOT got: so she contented herself with turning round, looking at the shelves as she came to them.
The shop seemed to be full of all manner of curious things-- but the oddest part of it all was, that whenever she looked hard at any shelf, to make out exactly what it had on it, that particular shelf was always quite empty: though the others round it were crowded as full as they could hold.
'Things flow about so here!' she said at last in a plaintive tone, after she had spent a minute or so in vainly pursuing a large bright thing, that looked sometimes like a doll and sometimes like a work-box, and was always in the shelf next above the one she was looking at. 'And this one is the most provoking of all--but I'll tell you what--' she added, as a sudden thought struck her, 'I'll follow it up to the very top shelf of all. It'll puzzle it to go through the ceiling, I expect!'
But even this plan failed: the 'thing' went through the ceiling as quietly as possible, as if it were quite used to it....
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'Then I hope your finger is better now?' Alice said very politely, as she crossed the little brook after the Queen.
'Oh, much better!' cried the Queen, her voice rising to a squeak as she went on. 'Much be-etter! Be-etter! Be-e-e-etter! Be-e-ehh!' The last word ended in a long bleat, so like a sheep that Alice quite started. .... Hey Jude Hey Jude, don't make it bad take a sad song and make it better Remember to let her under your skin Then you can begin to make it better Better, better, better, better, better, oh
Picture yourself in a boat on a river ....
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Post by iameye on Jun 30, 2008 20:33:45 GMT -5
chapter 3 www.alice-in-wonderland.net/books/2chpt3.htmlAll this time the Guard was looking at her, first through a telescope, then through a microscope, and then through an opera- glass. At last he said, `You're travelling the wrong way,' and shut up the window and went away.
`So young a child,' said the gentleman sitting opposite to her (he was dressed in white paper), `ought to know which way she's going, even if she doesn't know her own name!'
A Goat, that was sitting next to the gentleman in white, shut his eyes and said in a loud voice, ` She ought to know her way to the ticket-office, even if she doesn't know her alphabet!' There was a Beetle sitting next to the Goat (it was a very queer carriage-full of passengers altogether), and, as the rule seemed to be that they should all speak in turn, he went on with ` She'll have to go back from here as luggage!' Alice couldn't see who was sitting beyond the Beetle, but a hoarse voice spoke next. ` Change engines -- ' it said, and was obliged to leave off. `It sounds like a horse,' Alice thought to herself. And an extremely small voice, close to her ear, said, `You might make a joke on that -- something about "horse" and "hoarse," you know.' Then a very gentle voice in the distance said, `She must be labelled "Lass, with care," you know -- ' And after that other voices went on (What a number of people there are in the carriage!' thought Alice), saying, ` She must go by post, as she's got a head on her -- ' `She must be sent as a message by the telegraph -- ' `She must draw the train herself the rest of the way -- ' and so on.
But the gentleman dressed in white paper leaned forwards and whispered in her ear, `Never mind what they all say, my dear, but take a return-ticket every time the train stops." `Indeed I shan't!' Alice said rather impatiently. `I don't belong to this railway journey at all -- I was in a wood just now -- and I wish I could get back there.' `You might make a joke on that, said the little voice close to her ear: `something about "you would if you could," you know.' opera glass (plural opera glasses) A pair of small low-powered binoculars for use at a theatrical performance. 1844, Edgar Allen Poe, "The Spectacles" Talbot," I said, " you have an opera glass. Let me have it." " An opera glass ! — no ! — what do you suppose I would be doing with an opera glass ?
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Post by iameye on Jul 3, 2008 12:18:18 GMT -5
an opera glass
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Post by malus on Jul 3, 2008 13:05:46 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Jul 3, 2008 22:21:21 GMT -5
'The Queen of Hearts, she made some tarts, All on a summer day: The Knave of Hearts, he stole those tarts, And took them quite away!'
hahah that's it! and the White Rabbit blew three blasts on the trumpet, and called out, 'First witness!'[/i] back to the flow.... could the "peace sign" really be a symbol for the "cup" of the grail? You have to visualize it....V.... thespacebtween kindly pointed this out: 'The piece I'm going to repeat,' he went on without noticing her remark, 'was written entirely for your amusement.'
Alice felt that in that case she really OUGHT to listen to it, so she sat down, and said 'Thank you' rather sadly.
'In winter, when the fields are white, I sing this song for your delight--
only I don't sing it,' he added, as an explanation.
'I see you don't,' said Alice.
'If you can SEE whether I'm singing or not, you've sharper eyes than most.' Humpty Dumpty remarked severely. Alice was silent.
'In spring, when woods are getting green, I'll try and tell you what I mean.'
'Thank you very much,' said Alice.
'In summer, when the days are long, Perhaps you'll understand the song: In autumn, when the leaves are brown, Take pen and ink, and write it down.'well if you take it down with pen and paper in the Autumn , I suppose you have something to read while the Fields are white in winter, to get though the days of white noise.....
another passage: All this time the Guard was looking at her, first through a telescope, then through a microscope, and then through an opera- glass. At last he said, `You're traveling the wrong way,' and shut up the window and went away.
`So young a child,' said the gentleman sitting opposite to her (he was dressed in white paper), `ought to know which way she's going, even if she doesn't know her own name!'
A Goat, that was sitting next to the gentleman in white, shut his eyes and said in a loud voice, `She ought to know her way to the ticket-office, even if she doesn't know her alphabet!'
so easy a caveman can do it. right? but, still we don't understand the alphabet a while ago I posted a vid about a brain scientist that had (at a Young age) a stroke and "died". She was very observant about the process in a clinical way (as she could be) how she described the experience was that she became huge and vast, filling space and being part of everything wonderful. I'll find the vid if you want to see it (say so)...more flow?in the brain? yet part of space? If Dodgson the mathematician wrote of these things, in code, where is the evidence that he utilized the info? the facts don't play out too much.....and not really with the beatles, either....and what about davinci and his obsession with the grail and the study of the form of FLOW (and was he THE master mason? with other info?)....why does the IMAGINE mosaic have the image of the exact same chalice? the flow demands the cup as a source of, I guess, a funnel function...... 'Things flow about so here!' she said at last in a plaintive tone, after she had spent a minute or so in vainly pursuing a large bright thing, that looked sometimes like a doll and sometimes like a work-box, and was always in the shelf next above the one she was looking at. 'And this one is the most provoking of all--but I'll tell you what--' she added, as a sudden thought struck her, 'I'll follow it up to the very top shelf of all. It'll puzzle it to go through the ceiling, I expect!' "they're decanting"hahah
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Post by iameye on Jul 4, 2008 0:20:32 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Jul 4, 2008 1:18:30 GMT -5
Looking through the bent backed tulips To see how the other half lives Looking through a glass onion.
I told you about the walrus and me-man You know that we're as close as can be-man. Well here's another clue for you all, The walrus was Paul. Standing on the cast iron shore-yeah, Lady Madonna trying to make ends meet-yeah. Looking through a glass onion. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Looking through a glass onion.
I told you about the fool on the hill, I tell you man he living there still. Well here's another place you can be, Listen to me.
Fixing a hole in the ocean Trying to make a dove-tail joint-yeah Looking through a glass onion
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jul 4, 2008 8:00:30 GMT -5
back to the flow.... could the "peace sign" really be a symbol for the "cup" of the grail? You have to visualize it....V.... This explanation of the "peace sign" is so simple and obvious that I'm astonished that I've never heard it before, and angry at myself for not coming up with it on my own. I really think you're on to something here, iameye. Observe: img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lastsupperuu7.jpg
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Post by iameye on Jul 4, 2008 9:14:45 GMT -5
[ You have to visualize it....V.... This explanation of the "peace sign" is so simple and obvious that I'm astonished that I've never heard it before, and angry at myself for not coming up with it on my own. I really think you're on to something here, iameye. Observe: img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lastsupperuu7.jpg told you about the walrus and me-man You know that we're as close as can be-man Well here's another clue for you all The walrus was Paul.interesting graphic, do you have any text on that? anyone watch the brain lady? I wanted to discuss the last section of the vid....
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jul 4, 2008 9:23:39 GMT -5
back to the flow.... could the "peace sign" really be a symbol for the "cup" of the grail? You have to visualize it....V.... This explanation of the "peace sign" is so simple and obvious that I'm astonished that I've never heard it before, and angry at myself for not coming up with it on my own. I really think you're on to something here, iameye. Observe: img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lastsupperuu7.jpginteresting graphic, do you have any text on that? anyone watch the brian lady? I wanted to discuss the last section of the vid.... No text. It's just a JPG of the last supper that I modified according to your peace sign theory. I didn't watch the video, but intend to. At the moment, I am heading out for a few days, and won't have net access, so you'll all just have to plunder through without me. Just remember this: 1. Light 2. Throw. 3. Watch explode. Do NOT change the order in any way.
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Post by iameye on Jul 4, 2008 10:06:13 GMT -5
lol plunder we shall, arrrr:D Happy Independence Day "Alice asks how she can get bigger, but the Caterpillar asks her to recite "Old Father William" instead. After doing so (with a few errors), the Caterpillar tells her that one side of the mushroom will make her bigger and the other side will make her smaller" How does it feel to be One of the beautiful people? Now that you know who you are What do you want to be? And have you traveled very far? Far as the eye can see. How does it feel to be One of the beautiful people? How often have you been there? Often enough to know. What did you see, when you were there? Nothing that doesn't show. Baby you're a rich man, Baby you're a rich man, Baby you're a rich man too. You keep all your money in a big brown bag inside a zoo. What a thing to do. she added, as a sudden thought struck her, 'I'll follow it up to the very top shelf of all. It'll puzzle it to go through the ceiling, I expect!'
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Post by iameye on Jul 5, 2008 18:18:20 GMT -5
Apollo always said "choose your rabbit hole carefully " which is pretty sound advise.... we can choose the good witch or the bad witch....the left or the right, essentially..... about the vid towards the end, she talks about a blinding white light excruciating brightness on her brain...why? because she had to choose about going back to mortality? or nirvana? or is the white "noise" a state that we must endure, forever? I don't get that part, if anyone could explain any thoughts....is it the winter to reread our life history, that we write down in the autum? and is that the state we are in now, philosophically speaking? she says this is a choice we can make daily, to choose life in the right hemisphere of our brains, the NOW factor. Which is grand and all, except noone says how that can be done? and where is the evidence they are living that way? and wouldn't it spread upon the planet like peanut butter on hot toast? Blue pill, Red Pill......... left or right hemisphere? past future/ vs/ here now? Jesus said, "Cast your net to the right" I mean we can get caught up in the yokosatinismcrowleygovermentadgendaallofthewitches bla bla bla or we can choose the other side my rabbit hole, go to hell already crowley machine out of order
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Post by thespacebetween on Jul 5, 2008 23:44:26 GMT -5
..and now , to the crux of the biscuit... I told you 'bout the Fool on the Hill I tell you man, he livin' there still... There was an old woman Lived under a hill and if she's not gone, she lives there still. ...therefore, if one were to consider the possibility that Lennon was making coded references with the lyrics of Glass Onion, then one might make the assertions from the above lyrics that : a) she ( the old woman) is he ( the fool) b) he is alive ( he livin' there still) c) he is here ( he's not gone ) d) a) b) and c) are being pointed out with care, as though the contrary had been alluded to previously. Cry Baby Cry ... At twelve o'clock a meeting round the table For a seance in the dark With voices out of nowhere Put on specially by the children for a lark. ... The children 'staged' the voices out of nowhere at the seance, round the table, a turn table perhaps....the back masking on Pepper, the 'clues'( I Buried Paul/Cranberry Sauce), the mirrored bass drum... for a lark..for fun and mischief...suggesting something considerably less than dire... However.. Cry Baby Cry Make your mother sigh She's old enough to know better So cry baby cry ..... Cry, baby, cry, Put your finger in your eye, And tell your mother it wasn't I Seems to lend a regretful, accusatory tone to the tale.. 'It seems very pretty,' she said when she had finished it, 'but it's RATHER hard to understand!' (You see she didn't like to confess, ever to herself, that she couldn't make it out at all.) 'Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas--only I don't exactly know what they are! However, SOMEBODY killed SOMETHING :that's clear, at any rate--'
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Post by thespacebetween on Jul 6, 2008 2:12:31 GMT -5
Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts ♥ Club ♣ Band Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds ♦`You're nothing but a pack of cards!' C'mon! Count the flat people behind the guys in four different suits! Don't you think the Joker laughs at you? Har!
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Post by thespacebetween on Jul 28, 2008 21:39:33 GMT -5
Fixing a hole in the ocean Trying to make a dove-tail joint-yeah Looking through a glass onion..
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 7, 2008 14:42:48 GMT -5
Personally, I think John means Faul. He is very explicit that "the Walrus was 'Paul'" - & I think he means in MMT (which was in the past). I think this b/c, in the story, the Walrus tricks the oysters & eats them.
"It seems a shame," the Walrus said, "To play them such a trick, ... "I weep for you," the Walrus said: "I deeply sympathize." With sobs and tears he sorted out Those of the largest size, ... "O Oysters," said the Carpenter, "You've had a pleasant run! Shall we be trotting home again?' But answer came there none-- And this was scarcely odd, because They'd eaten every one.
The oysters were tricked & eaten by the Walrus, who pretended to be their friend & pretended to be sad about eating them (crocodile tears). The Walrus is putting on a show. His emotions are fake/ he's fake. I think the Walrus is the fake Paul.
I agree w/ others who think that the fans are the oysters. The fans have been tricked & "eaten" (taken in) by Faul.
I think John was trying to say that the fans have been tricked & taken in by Faul...
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Post by plastic paul on Aug 8, 2008 7:47:07 GMT -5
You know what faulconandsnowjob?
I have often wondered about the meaning of that phrase and I have never heard it described better than that (sorry if I have overlooked anyone else!) so thanks!
SO that means when John wrote I am the Walrus, he felt guilty for tricking the fans, but by Glass Onion, he felt that it was Faul who was being the true 'phony' perhaps?
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 8, 2008 10:56:19 GMT -5
"SO that means when John wrote I am the Walrus, he felt guilty for tricking the fans, but by Glass Onion, he felt that it was Faul who was being the true 'phony' perhaps?"
That is definitely possible. John was also "the eggman." Eggman could be Humpty Dumpty, but possibly not. I don't have time to look for it right now, but there was a recent article w/ Yuri Geller saying John gave him a golden egg. Connection? Anyway, these messages are so cryptic it's hard to know w/o more facts. Pretty much any interpretation that can be supported is valid, imo.
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Post by mommybird on Aug 8, 2008 11:17:55 GMT -5
Faulcon, that is a really good interpretation. Since becoming involved with PID, I have been interested in the lyrics to Glass Onion. That song is all about what happened to Paul & the boys.
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