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Post by jerriwillmore on Aug 29, 2006 13:21:21 GMT -5
Could anyone prove Billy Shepherd in the Pepperpots was the same guy who worked for the Bee Gees and died in the late 80s? It is possible as the Bee Gees worked for Pickwick, but the Billy Shepherd in the photo looked like a young guy. You would expect an orchestral arranger to look older. I did a Google of the Bill Shepherd who worked w/ Bee Gees- looked nothing like the Pepperpots singer!
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Post by eyesbleed on Aug 29, 2006 13:32:29 GMT -5
Bill Shepherd is a very common name. I think Billy looked a lot like Paul after he "died"- maybe they were related? It's starting to look like there were 2 different Bill Shephards. The music guy Bill... Pepperpots, Bee Gees etc.... most likely is not the Bill Shephard that we're interested in. I dunno... I don't think the earliest pics of Bill look anything like JPM. The guy in the Mal Evans home movies needed lots of work.
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Post by noodles on Aug 29, 2006 15:30:23 GMT -5
If you could keep you posts in that one original Bill Shepherd thread, jerriwillmore, we could have a much more coherant and interesting discussion.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 29, 2006 17:18:23 GMT -5
Bee Gees? Weren't they living in Australia when they tried to break into the music scene?
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Post by Paul Bearer on Aug 29, 2006 18:31:32 GMT -5
I think the Pepperpots name is too much of a coincidence though, don't you?
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Post by noodles on Aug 30, 2006 12:59:33 GMT -5
I think the Pepperpots name is too much of a coincidence though, don't you? I think the idea of replacing Paul McCartney with a surgically altered double and then announcing to the world exactly where you got your double from is illogical to an extreme.
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Post by jerriwillmore on Aug 30, 2006 13:31:56 GMT -5
The Billy Pepper guy looks nothing like the guy who worked for the Bee Gees. I did a Google search and that picture came up- someone else also posted it on the other thead prevously. Sorry "Sgt Pepper" photo was attached- I stole the photo from "Really Really Dead." He looks a bit like Sir Paul though!
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Post by guitargaz on Aug 30, 2006 17:55:14 GMT -5
As I said in the other thread - my Dad was the Billy Pepperpots guy and the Bee Gees guy - but the Pepperpots pictures were not the musicians - but models made to look Beatlish.
Gary Shepherd
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Post by beatlies on Aug 30, 2006 18:03:29 GMT -5
As I said in the other thread - my Dad was the Billy Pepperpots guy and the Bee Gees guy - but the Pepperpots pictures were not the musicians - but models made to look Beatlish. Gary Shepherd If that's true, could you present us with photos of the "real" Pepperpots then, and the actual Bill Shepherd, along with the Pepperpots' names and manager's name?
Thanks
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Post by plastic paul on Aug 30, 2006 18:53:05 GMT -5
Well that certainly is a coup!
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Post by fourthousandholes on Aug 30, 2006 19:09:25 GMT -5
GuitarGaz wrote: "...but the Pepperpots pictures were not the musicians - but models made to look Beatlish."
OK, that wasn't clear 'til now. Thank you for pointing that out, GG. Do you know anything more about that? What model agency, etc.?
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Post by jerriwillmore on Aug 30, 2006 20:12:12 GMT -5
Please tell me who sang lead with the Pepperpots also!
This is wierd- that guy actually did look a lot like Paul!
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Post by apollocvermouth on Aug 30, 2006 20:25:11 GMT -5
Pardon the intrusion...
Let's see...The band on the cover was not the band on the record, but merely several lads in suits, made to look somewhat Beatle-ish, but appearing to look nothing like the Beatles themselves, which the band playing on the record could have pulled off if they had worn suits and had a picture taken and used it on the cover. Quick...drink the Kool-Aid.
Apollo
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Post by jerriwillmore on Aug 30, 2006 20:38:08 GMT -5
To Gary Shepherd:
Hi there! I am just curious, did your father sing lead in the Pepperpots albums? It would be natural, as "Billy Pepper and the Pepperpots" suggests a lead singer named Billy. Do you know who the model playing the lead singer was either?
Thank you so much!
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Post by eyesbleed on Aug 30, 2006 21:27:59 GMT -5
Pardon the intrusion... Let's see...The band on the cover was not the band on the record, but merely several lads in suits, made to look somewhat Beatle-ish, but appearing to look nothing like the Beatles themselves, which the band playing on the record could have pulled off if they had worn suits and had a picture taken and used it on the cover. Quick...drink the Kool-Aid. Apollo ;D LMAO, LOL, LMAO(again) ;D
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 30, 2006 22:31:36 GMT -5
Billy Shepherd picked a peck of Billy Peppers How many Billy Peppers did Billy Shepherd Pick? You see the Billy Peppers I refer to Are the many pickled Paul replacements discussed here and there
Maybe Billy Shepherd was really a musician in Lawrence Welk's Champagne Music Band, or perhaps the son of a musician in Larry Welk's band....
It can't get any more bizarre than Billy being a Bee Gee...
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Post by noodles on Aug 31, 2006 4:51:54 GMT -5
Please tell me who sang lead with the Pepperpots also! This is wierd- that guy actually did look a lot like Paul! No one sang lead with the Pepperpots. It's three or four men singing (very badly) all at the same time.
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Post by beatlies on Aug 31, 2006 6:01:59 GMT -5
Please tell me who sang lead with the Pepperpots also! This is wierd- that guy actually did look a lot like Paul! No one sang lead with the Pepperpots. It's three or four men singing (very badly) all at the same time. There is one guy who sings a sort of semi-lead voice solo in places, in between the group singing. He sounds Faul-ish in the line "I won't know 'till I hold her close to me" in "Maybe I Will" ........... Is this "Bill Shepherd/Billy Pepper/Shears"? We don't know since they BIZARRELY DON'T REVEAL ANY OF THE PEPPERPOTS MEMBERS' NAMES.
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Post by noodles on Aug 31, 2006 7:24:51 GMT -5
No one sang lead with the Pepperpots. It's three or four men singing (very badly) all at the same time. There is one guy who sings a sort of semi-lead voice solo in places, in between the group singing. He sounds Faul-ish in the line "I won't know 'till I hold her close to me" in "Maybe I Will" ........... Is this "Bill Shepherd/Billy Pepper/Shears"? We don't know since they BIZARRELY DON'T REVEAL ANY OF THE PEPPERPOTS MEMBERS" NAMES. You must have a different version of 'Maybe I Will'. I'm hearing nothing remotely Paul/Faul or even in tune. If one of these guys ended up singing 'Helter Skelter', 'Why Don't We Do It In The Road', 'Let It Be', etc then he improved his vocals by about 10000000%* (*approximate figure)And there's nothing bizarre about the names of the musicians involved not being listed on a cash-in record. It's standard practice.
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Post by beatlies on Aug 31, 2006 7:38:10 GMT -5
It's especially odd because there's no record of their identities anywhere, just two names put forward "Bill Shepherd" and "Jimmy Fraser"; and they put out two cash-in albums, if that's what they were, not just one.
There's a "Jimmy" character in MMT also.
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Post by eyesbleed on Aug 31, 2006 7:48:54 GMT -5
It's especially odd because there's no record of their identities anywhere, just two names put forward "Bill Shepherd" and "Jimmy Fraser"; and they put out two cash-in albums, if that's what they were, not just one. There's a "Jimmy" character in MMT also. Plus... as I mentioned earlier. the rather strange reaction from the "mercybeat expert" when the Pepperpots were brought into the discussion..... or should I say NO reaction,,, just silence. That's a red flag to me..... always has been.
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Post by beatlies on Aug 31, 2006 9:44:36 GMT -5
A comparison: THE BUGGS !
The Buggs From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Before The Monkees, The Buggs were a band with a misspelled name in The Beatles' manner.The Buggs were a short-lived pop band of the mid-1960s which attempted to cash in on The Beatles craze.
The Buggs only album, "The Beetle Beat", consisted of inferior covers of Beatles songs (I Want To Hold Your Hand, She Loves You) with quickly-written dance-title originals (Big Ben Hop, Soho Mash, Liverpool Drag, Teddy Boy Stomp, Mersey Mercy) which displayed an almost preternatural cluelessness of what The Beatles were actually about.
Although the album cover was emblazoned with the legend "The original Liverpool sound", The Buggs actually hailed from Omaha, Nebraska, and the album was recorded at Kay Bank Studios in Minneapolis, Minnesota.[1]
A later re-release (or pirating) of the album was titled "Meet The Buggs" and featured the band in an exact simalcrum of The Beatles' pose on the cover of "Meet The Beatles" (the then-current American title for the album now called "With The Beatles").
[edit] Notes ª [2] Radio Rumpus Room
[edit] Discography The Beetle Beat (1964, Coronet Records (UK), CXS-212 (LP)) [edit] Compilations Better Than The Beatles: 26 Tunes That Failed to Oust the Fab Four From The Charts (Knight (LP)) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Buggs" Categories: 1960s music groups | Nebraska musical groups | Tributes to The Beatles
This is all we get with "pepperpots" :
Pepperpot (Monty Python) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Pepperpot is a term created by Monty Python member Graham Chapman to describe a class of character frequently utilized in the group's comedy sketches.
Pepperpots are middle-aged housewives, usually British, portrayed by a male member of the group dressed as a woman and speaking in falsetto.
Pepperpots typically have farcical names; examples include "Mrs. Premise", "Mrs. Conclusion", "Mrs. John-Paul Sartre", "Mrs. Concrete", "Mrs. Gorilla", "Mrs. Non-Gorilla", "Mrs. Smoker", "Mrs. Non-Smoker", "Mrs. Thing", and "Mrs. Entity".
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepperpot_%28Monty_Python%29" Categories: Fictional characters portrayed by the opposite sex | Monty Python
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Post by eyesbleed on Aug 31, 2006 14:37:53 GMT -5
The Billy Pepper guy looks nothing like the guy who worked for the Bee Gees. I did a Google search and that picture came up- someone else also posted it on the other thead prevously. Sorry "Sgt Pepper" photo was attached- I stole the photo from "Really Really Dead." He looks a bit like Sir Paul though! Hey Jerri, ya should've posted the pic of the Bee Gee's Billy Pepper, if ya found one. Anyway, in my first post on this thread I used the words "most likely" when I should've said somethin' more like "May not be the Bill Shephard we're interested in." "We MAY be lookin' at 2 different Bill Shephards" That would've been more accurate for now. Nothin's set in stone here Jerri..... not yet anyway. So it seems to me that there's only one person who has flat out said that you're goin' in the wrong direction with those comparisons, but there's nothin' else to back that claim up. If you think you're on to somethin', you should just continue on down that path until somethin' PROVES you wrong. Please don't take it personally GG, but this is the internet & we are a target for some people sometimes. It would be mighty silly of us to completely change direction on the word of one person at a keyboard somewhere. But that's the way this little mystery goes..... the more we look, the more questions arise.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Aug 31, 2006 15:43:43 GMT -5
Eyesbleed, That picture was from a BeeGees website, for what it's worth. I'd post the link, but my computer isn't allowing it for some reason, but it's on the "Bill Shepherd- UK Session Musician" thread.
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Post by eyesbleed on Aug 31, 2006 16:52:07 GMT -5
Hey thanks. Sometimes it's hard to keep up with everything. What's what & where that is......
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