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Post by DarkHorse on Sept 29, 2004 14:18:01 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] KEEP IT![/glow] The truth hurts sometimes. The truth? My arse! I've asked mb and fp several times to show the whole body of Faul when they are doing these fades and my request gets ignored every time...
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Post by madtitan125 on Sept 29, 2004 16:08:43 GMT -5
If someone actually believed that Paul was replaced, I can see their continued interest in exploring this issue.
What I don't get is why someone who supposedly doesn't see this continues to frequent a message board like this.
Flaming Pie at least has contemplated the idea he could be wrong....
You Matchbox, on the other hand, continue to use doctored photos to "prove your point".
The picture of Faul on the cover of Sgt Pepper has been tampered with, yet you continue to use it on your ID.
It doesn't match the gatefold "picture" of Faul in Sgt Pepper, and neither of them match the unretouched photo from the CD booklet.
The people on this board are far too educated on the subject of PWR to be swayed by such an ill-conceived attempt at "proof". That's funny stuff!
Faul's chin was obviously modified for the Sgt Pepper cover and the Abbey Road cover.
It comes down to this: the 3 illustrations of Faul used for Sgt Pepper don't even match EACH OTHER!
1. Faul on the cover of Sgt Pepper 2. Faul in the gatefold (inside the LP) 3. Faul's unretouched photo in the CD booklet
It's not only that Paul and Faul don't match...Faul and Faul don't match!
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Post by madtitan125 on Sept 29, 2004 16:44:25 GMT -5
And by the way Matchbox, that's not made up!
Darkhorse is right. The truth my arse! Keep it? All those in favor of keeping a fade that is using a manipulated photo say "aye"!
That's what I thought...no one!
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Post by matchbox on Sept 29, 2004 16:59:40 GMT -5
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Post by madtitan125 on Sept 29, 2004 20:14:54 GMT -5
Then use the original.
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Post by Morph on Sept 29, 2004 20:23:28 GMT -5
Red pepper seems to work for Lennon. Thanks to Uberkinder for the red pepper scan.
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Post by madtitan125 on Sept 29, 2004 22:22:48 GMT -5
Matchbox, are you paying attention? Thanks Morph!
The unretouched photo of Faul contained in the Sgt Pepper CD booklet is one of the few unairbrushed, unmanipulated, unstretched genuine photos we have of Paul's impostor.
I think it ought to be used as the foundation for any comparison between Paul and his replacement.
There's nothing to be ashamed about being fooled. Most people were (and still are) under the false impression that these guys are one and the same.
Even if some of you don't see it at the moment, if you keep studying the evidence, it will come to you.
You just have to be brave enough to believe what you are seeing. Bye for now.
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Post by revolver on Sept 29, 2004 22:43:35 GMT -5
Matchbox, are you paying attention? Thanks Morph! The unretouched photo of Faul contained in the Sgt Pepper CD booklet is one of the few unairbrushed, unmanipulated, unstretched genuine photos we have of Paul's impostor. I think it ought to be used as the foundation for any comparison between Paul and his replacement. There's nothing to be ashamed about being fooled. Most people were (and still are) under the false impression that these guys are one and the same. Even if some of you don't see it at the moment, if you keep studying the evidence, it will come to you. You just have to be brave enough to believe what you are seeing. Bye for now. I wouldn't hold my breath, MadTitan. Seems like everyone over at M4E have their rose-colored Paul=Paul glasses on or they're all smokin' something. I posted the '66 to '67 interview comparison stills over there. Most admit they don't look anything alike, but "Those aren't valid for comparison because they're from different camera angles, lenses, lighting, distance, sun was in his eyes, phase of the moon, etc., etc." Some of them got downright hostile after seeing how little Paul resembled Paul in that interview. They claimed the LSD interview photos didn't look like Paul, which isn't true. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. ;D
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Post by ARSEMYARSE on Sept 29, 2004 23:00:08 GMT -5
LarryC and I think Khan mentioned camera angles/lighting. Others mentioned the fact that he looks nothing like any other Faul picture in existance.
M4E ceded that one still looked like MMT, but that's not enough to justify anything. The Let It Be likeness just wasn't there.
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Post by ARSEMYARSE on Sept 29, 2004 23:00:54 GMT -5
And by the way Matchbox, that's not made up! Darkhorse is right. The truth my arse! Keep it? All those in favor of keeping a fade that is using a manipulated photo say "aye"! That's what I thought...no one! Manipulated my arse. BTW, aye.
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Post by revolver on Sept 29, 2004 23:14:51 GMT -5
Red pepper seems to work for Lennon. Thanks to Uberkinder for the red pepper scan. <sarcasm>No, by golly his chin moved a millimeter. That invalidates red pepper as a stretch! Uberkinder should be ashamed at his vile trickery!</sarcasm> Funny how the PIA crowd just ignore the fades that disprove their arguments. (They'd probably accuse us of doing the same.) But that Lennon fade shows pretty conclusively that red pepper is not stretched.
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Post by ARSEMYARSE on Sept 29, 2004 23:16:35 GMT -5
When PIAers make a fade and Faul's face is a bit longer, it's invalidated. Now it's alright to use sarcastic remarks when Lennon's stretches a bit.
Double-standards galore.
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 30, 2004 7:53:32 GMT -5
It's all just made up stuff anyhoo. What is all made up stuff is the Beatles "history" from late 66 on. There's a lot more fiction there than you want to believe. Cover stories made up to conceal the truth. They certainly didn't stop touring because of the reasons given... etc etc etc........
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 30, 2004 8:02:55 GMT -5
When PIAers make a fade and Faul's face is a bit longer, it's invalidated. Now it's alright to use sarcastic remarks when Lennon's stretches a bit. Double-standards galore. If we were talking about one one single guy thru all these years, absolutely perfect seemless fades would be everywhere. There would be dozens of them... hundreds of them. The fact that it is such an accomplishment to get a few good fades SHOULD tell ya something. You can think "double standards if ya want to. I don't see it at all. I see a bunch of interested PID'er's being VERY patient with a small bunch of blind people. This IS a PID forum after all. Refresh yer memory by re-reading the last paragraph. invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=about&action=display&thread=1077742692
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Post by DarkHorse on Sept 30, 2004 11:06:58 GMT -5
If someone actually believed that Paul was replaced, I can see their continued interest in exploring this issue. What I don't get is why someone who supposedly doesn't see this continues to frequent a message board like this. My point exactly!
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Post by Goldfinger on Sept 30, 2004 11:40:33 GMT -5
Matchbox, are you paying attention? Thanks Morph! The unretouched photo of Faul contained in the Sgt Pepper CD booklet is one of the few unairbrushed, unmanipulated, unstretched genuine photos we have of Paul's impostor. I think it ought to be used as the foundation for any comparison between Paul and his replacement. There's nothing to be ashamed about being fooled. Most people were (and still are) under the false impression that these guys are one and the same. Even if some of you don't see it at the moment, if you keep studying the evidence, it will come to you. You just have to be brave enough to believe what you are seeing. Bye for now. AYE! That last paragraph says this board is open to discussion which is a nice change from the 60IF standard. It also states that people's work is to be respected. I don't see how accusing people of doctoring or manipulating photos shows respect. Matchbox's fades are just as valid as any other. Anyone here is able to manipulate the photos they put out here. Without someone at a person's house to verify that the photos are vintage and undoctored, there is no way to tell. I can readily accuse any PIDDER of using doctored photos, but I can't prove it, just as you can't prove anything about Matchbox. Let's respect each other's views and work as was intended without making rash accusations. By the way, the Sgt Pepper CD work is the worst work I have ever seen. It looks like my 8 year old did it with safety sissors and Elmer's paste. Parts of the hair are chopped off - it's terrible.
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Post by ARSEMYARSE on Sept 30, 2004 12:50:28 GMT -5
If we were talking about one one single guy thru all these years, absolutely perfect seemless fades would be everywhere. There would be dozens of them... hundreds of them. The fact that it is such an accomplishment to get a few good fades SHOULD tell ya something. You can think "double standards if ya want to. I don't see it at all. I see a bunch of interested PID'er's being VERY patient with a small bunch of blind people. This IS a PID forum after all. Refresh yer memory by re-reading the last paragraph. invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=about&action=display&thread=1077742692On the contrary, I see PIAers as very patient toward blind people. We're even. . It's not even that hard to get good fades of Paul/Faul, which SHOULD tell you something. M4E does it all the time. It's cake-easy. They ARE double-standards. The Paul-Faul pic can match up alright, but if the NECK moves (and I've seen that happen), then it's useless. Double-standards, and M4E is being extremely patient with it. We're a big bunch, and don't you forget it, and it's not US that are blind, per se. Just because some people believe in conspiracies doesn't mean they're correct and open-minded -- that logic is flawed and trashy . Also, I'll speak on behalf of all M4Eers with the following statement: Since when was it an "accomplishment" to find a seamless fades of Paul-Faul? As I said before, it's very easy. Darkhorse has even claimed that PID evidence outweighs PIA evidence, which is untrue, false, invalid, wtf-inducing... whatever adjective you want to use to describe it. That's a load of hooey -- PIA evidence outweighs PID evidence eight days a week . The mere fact that they supposedly found a replacement that loves and is good at piano and playing bass left-handed is proof enough that this idea is far-fetched, but the myriads of great fades, song similarites (both stylistically and otherwise), Stella looking like her father, vocal similarities (no matter how much PIDDERs stretch it, his voice sounds the same. Just look at that Blackbird video at the end. That's JPM's voice from that man, and that's that), the fact that he had the biggest success of any Beatle (a replacement doing that? Gimme a break), the fact that he DOES look the same no matter how many times you wanna recycle that LSD interview (sorry Revolver, that's Sunking-ish) is enough to make me wonder what Darkhorse is smokin' when he says such a thing. Let's not even FORGET the face symmetry argument that's pro-PIA where, when any pictures of Faul/Paul are flipped, they look very unlike themselves in the exact same way. That's a nail in the PID coffin. PIA evidence > PID evidence (with PID evidence now being downgraded to the mere fact that PIDDERs can "just tell they are two different men") Note that I don't actually HATE PIDDERs, but I'm more impatient than the rest of the crew, and the sooner we get off this, the sooner PIDDERs can just appreciate all the music for what it really is and not as PID clues that don't exist.
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Post by madtitan125 on Sept 30, 2004 12:57:06 GMT -5
I'm not making any rash accusations or being disrespectful to anyone.
The fact that Matchbox is being misleading with his ID fade is indisputable.
The "photos" used on the cover and in the gatefold of Sgt Pepper are obviously manipulated. They don't match James Paul, they don't match Faul (undoctored) and they don't even match each other.
Trying to show that Faul and Paul are supposedly the same fellow using the Sgt Pepper cover "illustration" is just plain misleading.
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Post by ARSEMYARSE on Sept 30, 2004 13:01:48 GMT -5
I'm not making any rash accusations or being disrespectful to anyone. The fact that Matchbox is being misleading with his ID fade is indisputable. The "photos" used on the cover and in the gatefold of Sgt Pepper are obviously manipulated. They don't match James Paul, they don't match Faul (undoctored) and they don't even match each other. Trying to show that Faul and Paul are supposedly the same fellow using the Sgt Pepper cover "illustration" is just plain misleading. It's not misleading. In fact, I think it's funny, because the front cover is always used to show the height change, but is misleading when doing a fade, and it's the last fade I would have ever thought of. They match James Paul, btw, and Faul, because he was never replaced to begin with
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Post by Morph on Sept 30, 2004 14:25:50 GMT -5
<sarcasm>No, by golly his chin moved a millimeter. That invalidates red pepper as a stretch! Uberkinder should be ashamed at his vile trickery!</sarcasm> And actually the bulk of which is an illusion caused by John's chin casting a shadow on his neck. Shame on yuo Uberkinder!
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Post by Morph on Sept 30, 2004 14:27:07 GMT -5
LarryC and I think Khan mentioned camera angles/lighting. Others mentioned the fact that he looks nothing like any other Faul picture in existance. Regarding angles, it's funny then how Faul 67, comparing different angled interview stills, still looks like the same person. Same for Paul 66.
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Post by Morph on Sept 30, 2004 14:31:55 GMT -5
When PIAers make a fade and Faul's face is a bit longer, it's invalidated. Actually, since Faul's head is apparently larger, those fades are invalid from the very start. Tell me about it. When facial features do seem to match, "lens distortion" isn't even a blip on the radar.
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Post by YoDawgSUP on Sept 30, 2004 22:21:47 GMT -5
Actually, since Faul's head is apparently larger, those fades are invalid from the very start. Tell me about it. When facial features do seem to match, "lens distortion" isn't even a blip on the radar. Wow, right over your head. . You don't understand a single thing M4E has tried to say about lens distortion, as you don't know anything about lens distortion to say such an ignorant and baseless statement. Thus, don't even bother talking about PID because you will never be taken seriously.
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 30, 2004 22:33:03 GMT -5
Wow, right over your head. .. The fact that this is a PID forum, & the fact that a respectful discussion is much different than this argument is WAY over yer head. It's really a very simple concept.
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Post by YoDawgSUP on Sept 30, 2004 22:38:37 GMT -5
The fact that this is a PID forum, & the fact that a respectful discussion is much different than this argument is WAY over yer head. It's really a very simple concept. Morph is a dense jacka$$ is all. And I'll be back. I'm taking a break after tonight from anything PID related (you people tarnish such a wonderful musician's name... I pity you all), but I'll be back, one way or the other.
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