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Post by carman on Feb 10, 2009 11:24:17 GMT -5
I know you don't want to hear this but Paul is not dead. Yes, there are many clues, but they were put there by the Beatles to direct you to the "Real Message" You will find it all in my eBook "The Real Secret Message". Yes, I charge a small amount for it but I do this because I only want people serious about the Beatle phenomenon to read it. I don't consider it spam. I hope you don't either because this is the real "message" and I've proven it with facts. If your mind is still open about this amazing group, go to: www.beatlestherealsecretmessage.com. Regards, Carman
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Post by B on Feb 10, 2009 11:36:54 GMT -5
Sorry Carman, but if there is a secret, I don't think the Beatles intended for anyone to have to pay for it, other than buying the albums. For all I know, your book is valid, but I am not going to pay to see it. The point of this board is to try to understand the mystery, and get to the truth. Feel free to post your findings here.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 10, 2009 12:13:14 GMT -5
I suggest that you at least provide a teaser, carman.
The unattributed quotes on your site aren't nearly enticing enough.
Even for only $2.99.
Throw us a bone!.
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 10, 2009 12:15:14 GMT -5
Did you not think of selling the story to the world?
LOL good luck with your sales figures...
Just out of interest is it a real "message" or is it a real message? Because putting things in inverted commas often means that it's "not actually true" or "crap" if you will.
Sorry if I sound harsh but we've had so many people come on here over the years with their stories of transvestite aliens that were cloned by Hitler to bring about a New World Order that I'm of hearing people saying they know something but don't give the full story.
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Post by carman on Feb 10, 2009 12:17:42 GMT -5
I'm sorry for that. I think you're missing out on the most amazing book you will ever read on the Beatles. I've spent a lot of time and done a lot of research to prove what I've always believed since the 1960's. It wasn't easy, but I think I did a good job. I know it's a leap of faith to order the book, but isn't it worth $2.99 to learn what the Beatles were really trying to do? If I give it out for free, many of the people who read it will not put the time in to think seriously about what I'm saying, and yes this does require some thinking.
It's far too important to me to give it away to the people who just want to judge without doing any serious analysis.
I hope you change your mind, I would like to know your thoughts.
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 10, 2009 12:20:50 GMT -5
Carman, I edited my post.
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Post by puzzled on Feb 10, 2009 13:26:43 GMT -5
Mr Carman wrote:
"If I give it out for free, many of the people who read it will not put the time in to think seriously about what I'm saying, and yes this does require some thinking.
It's far too important to me to give it away to the people who just want to judge without doing any serious analysis."
How amazingly condescending. So because the posters here write their original thoughts for free, and invest years of their own time toward the deciphering of that same puzzle, then their insights must be useless.
But we should pay money to have the privilege of reading your important words, because if we weren't forced to pay you money we wouldn't know how valuable they are? That is a pretty sick sales pitch dude.
I obtained the Bible for free, and yet I have spent many hours seriously considering those words. Perhaps you should send $2.99 to JoJo for letting you post your words here!
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Post by carman on Feb 10, 2009 14:38:47 GMT -5
I respect your opinion, but I've had considerable experience with providing free pages to convince people that this is something original. It doesn't work. You need to read and think a lot about everything I'm saying. It's 179 pages (many just quotes). It's an eBook in PDF format. Once you order it you can distribute it at will. I don't care about that, but I want to know that your serious about what I'm saying. I promise you will either agree with it or be infuriated by it. This is serious Beatles, no trivia, no fluff no inventing ridiculous theories. The Beatles tried something phenomenal. It didn't work and they were never the same since. I'll explain why, how and where they wanted this to happen. If that's not worth $2.99 to you then just ignore my post. As far as being condescending , I'm putting my dignity on the line, the Beatles never admitted to much of this and it took a lot of research to establish my premise. I think I've done a good job. I based it mostly on facts and quotes I've pulled together to establish a complete picture of their plan. Hope you change your mind. Regards, Carman
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Post by JS2 on Feb 10, 2009 14:41:22 GMT -5
Oh, god damnit! Not here!
This loony turned up on The Beatle Forum, where I am a member. I said what I feel, that No-one drinks that Kool-Aid, and that I'd be sending her a tinfoil hat with directions to 60-If on it. She then followed a link I posted, and took this to MFH. Now here. Crap. Kindly go away, and don't even try the DM's Beatles forum, 'cause Khan's on there.
Good day.
EDIT: If you didn't recognize the walrus avatar, this is JS2 (and yes, I use it all the time).
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Post by B on Feb 10, 2009 15:28:08 GMT -5
Needless to say, I am curious what Carman has to say, but there are issues:
1. I don't use credit cards. 2. I won't use paypal. 3. Regardless of the explanation that he/she feels a person should pay, to show their sincerity, the reality is that if a thousand people pay Carman the three bucks, s/he's still $3000 richer. Not bad, if I say so myself! That's a new car, or whatever. And I can't blame Carman for being so "clever", but doesn't that corrupt the process? Shouldn't the desire for people to know the truth take precedence over the temptation to enrich oneself "selling" the truth? We each live by our own standards, but speaking for myself, I would rather put information out that may lead to the truth than to claim to have it, and charge people for the priviledge of knowing it. I would like to know what Carman has to say, but if he won't tell me for free, he's not my friend; he's out for himself. Ultimately truth, regardless of what it pertains to, is available to all of us without monetary cost, imo. That is the real motive for the mystery, imo: Inspiring us to learn to tune into it. "I only want people serious about the Beatle phenomenon to read it." Why? What harm is there if someone not serious about the Beatle phenomenon reads it?
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Post by ph0neyprophet on Feb 10, 2009 15:36:26 GMT -5
Does it have to do with what YKMN231 is posting on Youtube?
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Post by thisone on Feb 10, 2009 15:38:04 GMT -5
I know you don't want to hear this but Paul is not dead. Yes, there are many clues, but they were put there by the Beatles to direct you to the "Real Message" You will find it all in my eBook "The Real Secret Message". Yes, I charge a small amount for it but I do this because I only want people serious about the Beatle phenomenon to read it. I don't consider it spam. I hope you don't either because this is the real "message" and I've proven it with facts. If your mind is still open about this amazing group, go to: www.beatlestherealsecretmessage.com. Regards, Carman Which "Paul" isn't dead?
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Post by JS2 on Feb 10, 2009 15:57:48 GMT -5
All of them.
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Post by TotalInformation on Feb 10, 2009 16:01:00 GMT -5
So, what is his thesis? Oh, god damnit! Not here! This loony turned up on The Beatle Forum, where I am a member. I said what I feel, that No-one drinks that Kool-Aid, and that I'd be sending her a tinfoil hat with directions to 60-If on it. She then followed a link I posted, and took this to MFH. Now here. Crap. Kindly go away, and don't even try the DM's Beatles forum, 'cause Khan's on there. Good day. EDIT: If you didn't recognize the walrus avatar, this is JS2 (and yes, I use it all the time).
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Post by carman on Feb 10, 2009 16:21:51 GMT -5
This is why it's not free because most "fans" are more interested in turning everything about the Beatles into a joke. I'm really not that clever when it comes to doing business. I make a good living at what I do, but I'm paid for my analytical abilities not my business acumen. I don't need or care about the money but experience taught me that people take things more seriously when they pay for it. I expect to cretae a lot of controversey and that's a good thing because to be honest I find most "Beatle fans" have given up on objective thinking and are just looking to insult and ridicule. If that's your intention then please just ignore this post.
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Post by thisone on Feb 10, 2009 17:05:17 GMT -5
This is why it's not free because most "fans" are more interested in turning everything about the Beatles into a joke. I'm really not that clever when it comes to doing business. I make a good living at what I do, but I'm paid for my analytical abilities not my business acumen. I don't need or care about the money but experience taught me that people take things more seriously when they pay for it. I expect to cretae a lot of controversey and that's a good thing because to be honest I find most "Beatle fans" have given up on objective thinking and are just looking to insult and ridicule. If that's your intention then please just ignore this post. Appears out of nowhere claiming to have all the answers. Can't answer a simple question - goes on the defensive. Post a photgraph of the "Paul" that isn't dead. Please!
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Post by JoJo on Feb 10, 2009 17:08:15 GMT -5
Take it easy everyone.. I bought it Carman, so far I'll at least say I'm not upset at being $2.99 lighter in the wallet. I've spent ten times that for books that I considered throwing in the trash after the first few pages.. So no biggie.
I guess your core idea is that the Beatles did put out a message about "death", but that it was not literal. You discuss death and rebirth through the use of LSD, and I guess you are saying this was the message we are supposed to read through the lines?
Well.. I can see Beatlefan sites thinking you go too far, while on the other hand people here, myself included, may feel you don't go far enough. See, a lot of what you did interpreting lyrics goes on here and has for some time, I believe ideas similar to yours have come up. (among others)
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Post by iameye on Feb 10, 2009 17:09:05 GMT -5
But the Beatles didn't charge anything for the "real secret message" did they?
It was an invitation
TO MAKE A RESERVATION
GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED
SATISFACTION GUARANTEED
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 10, 2009 17:18:05 GMT -5
This is why it's not free because most "fans" are more interested in turning everything about the Beatles into a joke. I'm really not that clever when it comes to doing business. I make a good living at what I do, but I'm paid for my analytical abilities not my business acumen. I don't need or care about the money but experience taught me that people take things more seriously when they pay for it. I expect to cretae a lot of controversey and that's a good thing because to be honest I find most "Beatle fans" have given up on objective thinking and are just looking to insult and ridicule. If that's your intention then please just ignore this post. Then get it published as a Beatles related book, you would sell thousands of copies like all the other books about them whilst educating everyone. Unless of course no publishing house wants it for some reason? I feel that you would have more takers for this if you gave us any new information to prove that you know something. Mostly facts and quotes pulled together you say? So perhaps it's information that most of us already know but edited and put into a different context to mislead.
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Post by B on Feb 10, 2009 17:23:49 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Feb 10, 2009 18:34:42 GMT -5
Well, this is impressive:
To date, I've created and support thirty applications written in Microsoft Access.
I only say this because I've worked with people who are allegedly "computer gurus", but they don't know their a** from their elbow.
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Post by GN on Feb 11, 2009 7:39:21 GMT -5
Too cheap to be the truth. JoJo (and me) knows how many pounds the truth costs. All the pounds spent to purchase original vintage documents.
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Post by JS2 on Feb 11, 2009 8:07:00 GMT -5
**And fake them, GN.
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Post by carman on Feb 11, 2009 10:54:31 GMT -5
Ok, to make everyone happy I've decided to donate all the proceeds to the Society for World Peace. I think John and George would approve. No more excuses, buy the book, it's original and will give you a whole new reason to listen to the Beatles. I'm sure this is not all new to everyone, but I've put it together in a way to create a complete understanding of just what they were trying to do.
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Post by pauliedied on Feb 11, 2009 11:06:57 GMT -5
i have an idea too. "someone" who did buy it could just upload it here.. didn't you say: "feel free to distribute it" ?
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