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Post by baker on Nov 18, 2009 17:36:35 GMT -5
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Post by B on Nov 18, 2009 18:22:27 GMT -5
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baker
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Post by baker on Nov 18, 2009 18:52:23 GMT -5
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Post by B on Nov 18, 2009 19:59:49 GMT -5
Here's how to use the search engine, which, as you have noted, has a consistent problem: it doesn't work.
After submitting your search words, click on "Check all", whereupon all categories will become un-checked.
Click on the most probable links for what you're looking for.
Put in Hours and Days. I usually go with 20 Hours and 999 days.
Put maximum results at 100.
Hit Search.
It will fail to find what you are looking for, and say the time ran out.
Repeat the whole process again, and if you're lucky, it will work the second time.
The Search engine can't be bothered to search for four letter words like "Paul" or "dead",
so try to think of a context in which what you are looking for might be found.
Good luck!
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 18, 2009 22:05:32 GMT -5
Welcome to the board, baker!
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baker
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Post by baker on Nov 19, 2009 10:17:05 GMT -5
Thanks again for the info and the welcome. :-)
One comment -- not sure this is the place.
The evidence of Paul's changing appearance I've read about on the forum so far is certainly compelling. But what about the music? How could they have found another, even semi-equivalent musical genius on such short notice? Paul and John are unique talents, and I don't, on the surface, see any really suspicious loss of songwriting ability in the shift from early to late period Beatles, and extending to the early McCartney albums (Ram, Band on the Run, etc.). I'll check the forum for this subject, though... *that* would really be interesting to me: if there are distinct changes in musical style noted from pre-Sgt. Pepper to post-Sgt. Pepper.
All that said, I *luv* some of the theories put forth here I've been able to peruse so far. Good work!!
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 19, 2009 10:51:48 GMT -5
Thanks again for the info and the welcome. :-) One comment -- not sure this is the place. The evidence of Paul's changing appearance I've read about on the forum so far is certainly compelling. But what about the music? How could they have found another, even semi-equivalent musical genius on such short notice? Paul and John are unique talents, and I don't, on the surface, see any really suspicious loss of songwriting ability in the shift from early to late period Beatles, and extending to the early McCartney albums (Ram, Band on the Run, etc.). I'll check the forum for this subject, though... *that* would really be interesting to me: if there are distinct changes in musical style noted from pre-Sgt. Pepper to post-Sgt. Pepper. All that said, I *luv* some of the theories put forth here I've been able to peruse so far. Good work!! Well, I'm only speaking for myself, but I believe that the reason for the continuity in songwriting ability stems from the fact that James Paul McCartney didn't die, and wasn't *permanently* replaced.  . The photo is from Dennis O'Dell's book, "At the Apple's Core". www.amazon.co.uk/At-Apples-Core-Beatles-%2522Beatles%2522/dp/0720611164There's a great thread about the photo here: invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pidpix&action=display&thread=5450You also might want to take a look at the "Wings studio session" thread. invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pidpix&thread=5866&page=1 |
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Post by 8749 on Nov 19, 2009 15:07:02 GMT -5
Here's how to use the search engine, which, as you have noted, has a consistent problem: it doesn't work. After submitting your search words, click on "Check all", whereupon all categories will become un-checked. Click on the most probable links for what you're looking for. Put in Hours and Days. I usually go with 20 Hours and 999 days. Put maximum results at 100. Hit Search. It will fail to find what you are looking for, and say the time ran out. Repeat the whole process again, and if you're lucky, it will work the second time. The Search engine can't be bothered to search for four letter words like "Paul" or "dead", so try to think of a context in which what you are looking for might be found. Good luck! I found another way, B and baker. You can search each sub-forum board separately, like the General Board, Links and Pics, Paul McCartney, etc. It usually times out the first time, but try again and you'll get the info you can't get at the Google search engine at the bottom of the board. |
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baker
Hard Day's Night
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Post by baker on Nov 20, 2009 16:30:57 GMT -5
Again my apologies for probably posting in the wrong place about subjects. The idea that Paul was *temporarily* replaced during the general Sgt. Pepper period is intriguing. One of the best bits of evidence I've seen concerning the matter was something found on this board... haven't been able to refind it. Maybe someone could help, because if I can become convinced through it, maybe others can as well. It's an *obvious* backmask from the Yellow Submarine movie where cartoon John says to cartoon Paul something like (backwards) "There was Paul". Now correct me if I'm wrong but the Yellow Submarine movie came out about a year before the "Paul is Dead" story broke. In the movie, this would be just after the Beatles find Paul in the House of Many Rooms, or at 8:34 approx. in this 10 minute Youtube video... www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tlxeWQX9RwI've read all this most incredible thread invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5758(great especially toward the beginning) and thought I found the Yellow Submarine video link within, but today upon rescanning... no luck. If someone hasn't done it I think it would be worth playing the whole movie backwards to see what else surfaces. |
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Post by eyesbleed on Nov 20, 2009 22:02:11 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum baker... ya, I'm the big Negativland, Residents, etc fan around here.
As far as the PWR/PID debate, I think Paul was replaced "permanently" in that Sir Paul is the same guy who 1st showed up in the Beatles in 67, but James Paul didn't die or "go away". I think he's been involved in some of the "McCartney" stuff but not all of it.... Ram, Chaos & Creation, McGear, The Fireman, & some Wings releases all suggest JPM to me... the 80's fluff stuff... not so much.
But that's just me.
The PID argument also has some compelling points.
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baker
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Post by baker on Nov 21, 2009 4:16:07 GMT -5
Nice. Thanks for the info, and good to see another Residents fan here. Crazy to say, perhaps, but -- long term (centuries, mind you) -- The Residents may be just as important to 20th Century music as The Beatles, IMO (you can stop moaning now). But I luv both... The other influence I thought of that might be added into the mix, coming kind of from left field again, is Firesign Theater. After all, they were called "The Beatles of Comedy", and their work is littered with Beatles references, and also they were semi-contemporaries. A prime example is "How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All". Check the album cover, for instance; this is from 1969.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Can_You_Be_in_Two_Places_at_Once_When_You're_Not_Anywhere_at_All Another rival influence to The Beatles in modern music is Zappa, a known hippie hater. Ringo Starr is in his 200 Motels movie -- maybe more clues there? Fwiw, my background is more Dark Side of the Rainbow/synchronicities, but on old forums we skimmed over the Paul is Dead material now and then -- there are obvious comparisons to be made between the two bodies of info. As far as PID/PWR debate, I don't think he was/is dead but I also think a "conspiracy" was/is going on, given all the clues/evidence. 'I'll do more research. -- baker. |
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Post by knowthe411 on Nov 22, 2009 1:14:16 GMT -5
That is one funny album! If the Beatles created Klaatu, then why wouldn't they create The Residents? If they wanted to spoof their own image, what better way to do it? It's an ingenious idea!! They had great senses of humor and that would be a great way to put out some fun songs they enjoyed creating.
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baker
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Post by baker on Nov 22, 2009 5:54:19 GMT -5
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Post by B on Nov 22, 2009 15:12:46 GMT -5
baker wrote: The other influence I thought of that might be added into the mix, coming kind of from left field again, is Firesign Theater. After all, they were called "The Beatles of Comedy", and their work is littered with Beatles references, and also they were semi-contemporaries.
A prime example is "How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All". Check the album cover, for instance; this is from 1969....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Can_You_Be_in_Two_Places_at_Once_When_You're_Not_Anywhere_at_AllI've pointed out this connection a number of times. All the Firesign Theatre albums have titles that seem to act as clues. For instance, "We're all bozos on this bus" is a perfect description of the crowd of people on the Magical Mystery Tour bus (who, as it happens, represent humanity at large, which is to say, us, as we travel through life every year around the sun). By the way, when I want to reference album covers, I usually look the album name up on my search engine, with the word "wiki" next to it, and invariably the wikipedia link comes up. Usually there is a picture of the album in question there, which you can then click on, and a larger (usually) version will appear on your screen. If you click on that image, wikipedia gives you a jpg uploadable version, which you can then post here with the [ I m g] and [ / I m g] (which I have to distort here to show you) surrounding the address. Hence: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/FT_itwajbotb.jpgbetween the [ I m g] and [ / I m g] without the spaces gives you:  Notice the rainbow, which ties it to Magical Mystery Tour, btw.   |
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Post by baker on Nov 22, 2009 16:17:42 GMT -5
Hehe. I was just looking at Bozo quotes for another board, probably when you were posting this. This is the one I was looking at, again fwiw... still have it saved as a link www.happyatheistforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2595Good point about rainbow and bus. Thanks for the image embedding tip... wondering about that as well today. More later (also been thinking about Vileness Fats today... why did they change the name when the town is called Vileness Flats? for instance Notice first four letters are those of VEIL... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vileness_Fats) |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 22, 2009 17:44:06 GMT -5
baker wrote: The other influence I thought of that might be added into the mix, coming kind of from left field again, is Firesign Theater. After all, they were called "The Beatles of Comedy", and their work is littered with Beatles references, and also they were semi-contemporaries.
A prime example is "How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All". Check the album cover, for instance; this is from 1969....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Can_You_Be_in_Two_Places_at_Once_When_You're_Not_Anywhere_at_AllI've pointed out this connection a number of times. All the Firesign Theatre albums have titles that seem to act as clues. For instance, "We're all bozos on this bus" is a perfect description of the crowd of people on the Magical Mystery Tour bus (who, as it happens, represent humanity at large, which is to say, us, as we travel through life every year around the sun). By the way, when I want to reference album covers, I usually look the album name up on my search engine, with the word "wiki" next to it, and invariably the wikipedia link comes up. Usually there is a picture of the album in question there, which you can then click on, and a larger (usually) version will appear on your screen. If you click on that image, wikipedia gives you a jpg uploadable version, which you can then post here with the [ I m g] and [ / I m g] (which I have to distort here to show you) surrounding the address. Hence: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/FT_itwajbotb.jpgbetween the [ I m g] and [ / I m g] without the spaces gives you: Notice the rainbow, which ties it to Magical Mystery Tour, btw.  Very interesting. As Lennon read a book on MarxThe quartet practiced in the park... B said: "For instance, "We're all bozos on this bus" is a perfect description
of the crowd of people on the Magical Mystery Tour bus (who, as it happens, represent humanity
at large, which is to say, us, as we travel through life every year around the sun)." And don't forget that it was the Bo(n)zo Dog Doo Dah Band who performed "Death Cab For Cutie" in MMT. Oh and here's Firesign Theater doing a live performance in 1981. |
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Post by thisone on Nov 22, 2009 23:29:12 GMT -5
What's the guy furthest left pointing at? Is it the Marmalade Man or the Walrus? |
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Post by B on Nov 23, 2009 0:51:02 GMT -5
That's where you hold the mirror to see the secret picture.
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baker
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Post by baker on Nov 25, 2009 11:34:55 GMT -5
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Post by B on Nov 30, 2009 19:36:11 GMT -5
What's the guy furthest left pointing at? Is it the Marmalade Man or the Walrus? You know, there is something going on here. There is writing to the right of the uppermost head. You can clearly see the letter A under the branch. The fellow on the bottom is holding a Howdy Doody puppet, and seems to have two hair lines, one above the other. I'd love to see this album cover full size. |
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Post by iameye on Dec 1, 2009 5:04:50 GMT -5
What's the guy furthest left pointing at? Is it the Marmalade Man or the Walrus? You know, there is something going on here. There is writing to the right of the uppermost head. You can clearly see the letter A under the branch. The fellow on the bottom is holding a Howdy Doody puppet, and seems to have two hair lines, one above the other. I'd love to see this album cover full size. does this help, B?  heh, found this when I was was looking for that...lol  |
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Post by B on Dec 1, 2009 10:36:08 GMT -5
Thanks iameye. Doesn't seem to help much...  It does bring out that the Howdy Doody puppet has one eye blacked out. You know: "McCartney eye" etc. Also it makes the fact that the clock is a Mickey Mouse clock clearer. (Answering thisone's question) And now I can see that the second "hair line" is a beret, so they're parodying the Huey Newton poster that was popular at the time, showing the co-founder of the Black Panthers wearing a beret, sitting on a wicker chair throne. So yes, it does help some, iameye. |
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