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Post by privyprincess on Sept 10, 2011 12:59:57 GMT -5
Is anyone else here(besides myself) of the impression that Hey Jude is actually targeted to the Jewish people, not Julian? I've always known in the back of my mind that this song was not written for Julian. The revelation that this song was targeted at Jewish people came to me recently while watching a documentary on the Holocaust. At one point they were showing footage of Nazi Germany and the oppression of the Jewish population. There were shops with the name "Jude" written on them. I looked it up and "Jude" is German for "Jew". So, I took this theory and I looked at the lyrics. Here's the lyrics: My added commentary is italicized. From www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/hey-jude-lyrics-the-beatles/f3b4903642591f7748256bc2001d1579
Hey Jude don't make it bad Take a sad song (sad song=years of oppression) and make it better Remember to let her ("her" is not necessarily a woman - maybe a land? The holy land?) into your heart Then you can start to make it better
Hey Jude don't be afraid You were made to go out and get her ("get her" as in reclaim the holy land) The minute you let her under your skin Then you begin to make it better
And any time you feel the pain, Hey Jude, refrain Don't carry the world upon your shoulders For well you know that it's a fool who plays it cool By making his world a little colder (don't sorry for yourself, stop complaining and do something) Da da da da da da da da da
Hey Jude don't let me down (who is "me"? Who would the Jewish people let down? GOD?) You have found her now go and get her Remember to let her into your heart Then you can start to make it better
So let it out and let it in Hey Jude begin You're waiting for someone to perform with (some Jews are waiting for their messiah to arrive) And don't you know that it's just you Hey Jude you'll do (stop waiting for the messiah and do it yourself) The movement you need is on your shoulder (in Nazi Germany, Jewish people had to wear the star of David patch on their shoulder to signify they were Jewish. The movement they need is the star? The pentagram? Magick?)
Da da da da da da da da da Yeah
Hey Jude don't make it bad Take a sad song and make it better Remember to let her under your skin Then you'll begin to make it better Better, better, better, better, better, Yeah,Yeah,Yeah
1, 2, 3, 4, (Jude, Jude, Judey, Judey, Judey, Judey, Waaa!) 5, (Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude) 6, (Yah, Yah, Yah) 7, (Jude, HEY JUDE! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!) 8, (OH, JUDE!) 9, 10 (Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH!) 11, 12, (Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, OOOOH, WHAAAAAAAAAAA!) 13, 14, 15, (YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA!) 16, (JUDE, MAHMAHMAHMAHMAHMAAHAAAAHH!) 17, 18, (Woooooo!) 19, (Well then a Nah Nah...) 20... Ok, so am I off my rocker or is there something there?
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Post by iameye on Sept 10, 2011 13:18:15 GMT -5
I have written extensively on this subject because I am the leading expert.
You have found her.
All you have to do is look.
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Post by privyprincess on Sept 10, 2011 13:29:25 GMT -5
I have written extensively on this subject because I am the leading expert. You have found her. All you have to do is look. Nice! I would love to read what you've written concerning this topic. Can you point in the direction of this info please?
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Post by iameye on Sept 10, 2011 13:39:32 GMT -5
I have written extensively on this subject because I am the leading expert. You have found her. All you have to do is look. Nice! I would love to read what you've written concerning this topic. Can you point in the direction of this info please? I did my work, it's up to you to do yours. You were made to go out and get her ("get her" as in reclaim the holy land)
yes, it's all about the reclaim.
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Post by privyprincess on Sept 10, 2011 15:02:51 GMT -5
Nice! I would love to read what you've written concerning this topic. Can you point in the direction of this info please? I did my work, it's up to you to do yours. You were made to go out and get her ("get her" as in reclaim the holy land)
yes, it's all about the reclaim. You're right, Iameye. Let me go and see what I can find! Oh and thanks for the heads up about the reclaim. Do you think this type of action would start ww3? I feel like it will come to that.
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Post by ph0neyprophet on Sept 10, 2011 15:11:37 GMT -5
lmfao
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Post by 65if2007 on Sept 10, 2011 23:47:44 GMT -5
Is anyone else here(besides myself) of the impression that Hey Jude is actually targeted to the Jewish people, not Julian? I've always known in the back of my mind that this song was not written for Julian. The revelation that this song was targeted at Jewish people came to me recently while watching a documentary on the Holocaust. At one point they were showing footage of Nazi Germany and the oppression of the Jewish population. There were shops with the name "Jude" written on them. I looked it up and "Jude" is German for "Jew". So, I took this theory and I looked at the lyrics. Here's the lyrics: My added commentary is italicized. From www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/hey-jude-lyrics-the-beatles/f3b4903642591f7748256bc2001d1579
Hey Jude don't make it bad Take a sad song (sad song=years of oppression) and make it better Remember to let her ("her" is not necessarily a woman - maybe a land? The holy land?) into your heart Then you can start to make it better
Hey Jude don't be afraid You were made to go out and get her ("get her" as in reclaim the holy land) The minute you let her under your skin Then you begin to make it better
And any time you feel the pain, Hey Jude, refrain Don't carry the world upon your shoulders For well you know that it's a fool who plays it cool By making his world a little colder (don't sorry for yourself, stop complaining and do something) Da da da da da da da da da
Hey Jude don't let me down (who is "me"? Who would the Jewish people let down? GOD?) You have found her now go and get her Remember to let her into your heart Then you can start to make it better
So let it out and let it in Hey Jude begin You're waiting for someone to perform with (some Jews are waiting for their messiah to arrive) And don't you know that it's just you Hey Jude you'll do (stop waiting for the messiah and do it yourself) The movement you need is on your shoulder (in Nazi Germany, Jewish people had to wear the star of David patch on their shoulder to signify they were Jewish. The movement they need is the star? The pentagram? Magick?)
Da da da da da da da da da Yeah
Hey Jude don't make it bad Take a sad song and make it better Remember to let her under your skin Then you'll begin to make it better Better, better, better, better, better, Yeah,Yeah,Yeah
1, 2, 3, 4, (Jude, Jude, Judey, Judey, Judey, Judey, Waaa!) 5, (Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude) 6, (Yah, Yah, Yah) 7, (Jude, HEY JUDE! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!) 8, (OH, JUDE!) 9, 10 (Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH!) 11, 12, (Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, OOOOH, WHAAAAAAAAAAA!) 13, 14, 15, (YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAH, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA!) 16, (JUDE, MAHMAHMAHMAHMAHMAAHAAAAHH!) 17, 18, (Woooooo!) 19, (Well then a Nah Nah...) 20... Ok, so am I off my rocker or is there something there? You're off your rocker.
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Post by 65if2007 on Sept 10, 2011 23:48:32 GMT -5
Nice! I would love to read what you've written concerning this topic. Can you point in the direction of this info please? I did my work, it's up to you to do yours. You were made to go out and get her ("get her" as in reclaim the holy land)
yes, it's all about the reclaim. Don't either of you quit your day jobs.
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Post by 65if2007 on Sept 10, 2011 23:59:22 GMT -5
No really, I mean this is just totally insane.
It makes conventional PID seem staid and solid card-carrying establishment, by comparison.
It almost makes 911 conspiracy theories seem common-sensical by comparison.
Reclaim WHAT? If this song or some sort of variant of it had been written before 1948 -- or even before 1968 -- this theory would make just a little more sense than it does now. Just a little. Just a little.
But in 1948, the state of Israel was officially established, and, of course, in 1967, the Israelis absolutely crushed the Arab armies in the Six-Day War.
This song was apparently written and released in 1968, a year afterward. What need could possibly have been perceived to bolster Jewish/Israeli morale at that time?
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Post by iameye on Sept 11, 2011 4:28:12 GMT -5
I did my work, it's up to you to do yours. You were made to go out and get her ("get her" as in reclaim the holy land)
yes, it's all about the reclaim. Don't either of you quit your day jobs. quitting is not an option. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judahthink of it as the ultimate suitcase
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Post by iameye on Sept 11, 2011 5:08:05 GMT -5
Stand up! all you lovers in the world! Stand up and be counted every boy and every girl Stand UP! All you lovers in the world Starting up a brand new day
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Post by iameye on Sept 11, 2011 6:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Sept 11, 2011 6:29:14 GMT -5
Stand up! all you lovers in the world! Stand up and be counted every boy and every girl Stand UP! All you lovers in the world Starting up a brand new day ok, I'll go first One! see? it's easy! all you need
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Post by iameye on Sept 11, 2011 7:34:30 GMT -5
the Fab Four the Fab Four plus the Winged Beatle lol remember to let her into your heart!
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Post by iameye on Sept 11, 2011 8:11:02 GMT -5
Made to go out and get Her. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us
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Post by iameye on Sept 11, 2011 8:42:19 GMT -5
Made to go out and get Her. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us Oh, she tastes like wine Such A Human Being So Divine Oh She Feels Like SunMother Nature Look At What You've Done the meaning of Diana is "divine"Ah She'll Dance And Dine Like A Lucifer She'll Always Shine
hey Macca, remember me?
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Post by skyward on Sept 12, 2011 0:53:41 GMT -5
Made to go out and get Her. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us Hey Jude - Roswell recapYou can literally see the *sparks* flying, figuratively too!
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Post by iameye on Sept 12, 2011 7:22:57 GMT -5
Electric arguments, imagine that! FROM THE SKY! lol
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Post by privyprincess on Sept 28, 2011 11:28:47 GMT -5
No really, I mean this is just totally insane. It makes conventional PID seem staid and solid card-carrying establishment, by comparison. It almost makes 911 conspiracy theories seem common-sensical by comparison. Reclaim WHAT? If this song or some sort of variant of it had been written before 1948 -- or even before 1968 -- this theory would make just a little more sense than it does now. Just a little. Just a little. But in 1948, the state of Israel was officially established, and, of course, in 1967, the Israelis absolutely crushed the Arab armies in the Six-Day War. This song was apparently written and released in 1968, a year afterward. What need could possibly have been perceived to bolster Jewish/Israeli morale at that time? You seem just a little ticked off. Just a little.
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Post by 65if2007 on Sept 28, 2011 22:04:27 GMT -5
No really, I mean this is just totally insane. It makes conventional PID seem staid and solid card-carrying establishment, by comparison. It almost makes 911 conspiracy theories seem common-sensical by comparison. Reclaim WHAT? If this song or some sort of variant of it had been written before 1948 -- or even before 1968 -- this theory would make just a little more sense than it does now. Just a little. Just a little. But in 1948, the state of Israel was officially established, and, of course, in 1967, the Israelis absolutely crushed the Arab armies in the Six-Day War. This song was apparently written and released in 1968, a year afterward. What need could possibly have been perceived to bolster Jewish/Israeli morale at that time? You seem just a little ticked off. Just a little. And you have no answer. None.
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Post by B on Sept 28, 2011 22:40:27 GMT -5
I had thought there was a thread here called "Hey Jude = Hey John?" but even Google can't seem to find it, so even if it's just something I dreamed, it's on target, imo. It may have been at PID Miss Him. Think of it as John having been Judas in another lifetime, and the pieces start to fit. For example: "Take a sad song, and make it better" could mean: undo the bad karma from the previous life by making the best of the current one. I've had the thought that the "lucky break" mentioned in McCartney's song "Too Many People" might be a reference to John having been given a lucky break of being given a second chance to live life; and more specifically, to live life with his buddy from a previous incarnation, the one he betrayed. Does that make Paul "Jesus"? Certainly the line: "Now what can be done for you?" coming from Paul sounds a bit condescending. The line "No one else is in my tree" always makes me think of Judas having hung himself. John said it was just an image, where he's sitting in a tree, observing others, but there may be more to it than that. "the walrus and me; we're about as close as can be" suggests the need of Jesus for a Judas to fulfill his mission. Then the 'vice-versa' can be played out in the next lifetime. The walrus and the carpenter: Judas and Jesus The walrus was Paul (last time around) I am the walrus (this time) Taking on each others' karma. So: 'the minute you let her under your skin, then you begin to make it better' would mean that the sad song of who Judas had been could be made better once the holy spirit (considered the feminine aspect of God in Eastern religions) is allowed to give guidance to a person. And so on and so on. Not trying to be confusing here, because John also hinted that he was in the Jesus role when he sang "the way things are going, they're going to crucify me!", and he did experience an early death, while Faul also portrays himself in Christ-like poses and promisory lyrics. So they both get to be both, so to speak. But "I've seen religion from Jesus to Paul" suggests that Paul is in the Christ position this time, where as John inherited the role of the villain. This post at tafultong's iamaphoney blog conveys the gist of it, imo, preposterous as it may be: PFPrap2000 said...
HEY...
DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM???
I THINK YOU DO...
I AM HERE......
I AM ALIVE...
I AM IN ONE OF THE STAGES OF HELL........
I'VE BEEN A BAD LITTLE BOY.....
NOW I AM REDUCED TO BEING A DRUG ADDICT AND MAKING MUSIC SO PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER ME.........
JOHN LENNON DIDN'T WRITE ANYTHING
IT WAS ALL DONE FOR HIM............
JOHN LENNON WAS JESUS
September 28, 2011 8:07 PM
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Post by privyprincess on Sept 30, 2011 14:44:10 GMT -5
No really, I mean this is just totally insane. It makes conventional PID seem staid and solid card-carrying establishment, by comparison. It almost makes 911 conspiracy theories seem common-sensical by comparison. Reclaim WHAT? If this song or some sort of variant of it had been written before 1948 -- or even before 1968 -- this theory would make just a little more sense than it does now. Just a little. Just a little. But in 1948, the state of Israel was officially established, and, of course, in 1967, the Israelis absolutely crushed the Arab armies in the Six-Day War. This song was apparently written and released in 1968, a year afterward. What need could possibly have been perceived to bolster Jewish/Israeli morale at that time?[/quote] 1. Reclaim the holy land, Israel, from the Zionists. Or were you of the impression that Zionists were actually practicing Jews? Lol, silly you! I think we all know that claiming to be something is not the same as actually being it. 2. Need? Since when does there have to be an inherent "need" to speak on world issues? People still talk feveredly about many old issues' I'm sure they won't stop talking just because the issues are ancient. The topic of the Holy Land will continue to be a topic of interest as it has for years to come, until the Jews "go out and get her" (back) once and for all. That's just my opinion, though. We all have them. I respect yours, is it wrong of me to expect the same courtesy from others?
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Post by B on Sept 30, 2011 16:36:44 GMT -5
I don't find anything 65if2007 wrote to be discourteous. I mean, he said you were off your rocker, but that was one of the options you put out, privyprincess. His other post was just his rational for why he felt your interpretation lacked merit. I see nothing 'out of bounds' here.
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Post by ipuffin on Sept 30, 2011 17:41:09 GMT -5
the most off-topic translation? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Ruth: "The full title in Hebrew is named after a young woman of Moab, the great-grandmother of David and, according to the Christian tradition, an ancestress of Jesus" ... ameyeright?
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Post by hotman637 on Sept 30, 2011 18:26:05 GMT -5
Hey Jude=Hey(Hill)Billy
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