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Post by mindgames on Apr 24, 2008 4:48:39 GMT -5
this is how people get killed in the hood. Jude, your a very sensitive, and passionate person, perhaps you need to take a step back now and then and examine if it is worth getting so upset over some of this stuff. Like the April fools joke all that should have rolled off your back like water. I guess what I am saying is toughen up a bit and let some things go.
Did you know Linda McCartney personally?
Regardless of how wrong the other person was in your opinion, can you see why a meat eater might not like Linda McCartney? And quite frankly she was not a beauty, but if you know the truth about her I'd rather hear you defend her and her beliefs than general name calling back and forth. Tell us why she is so great. I don't think that just because some one has died, they are above criticism at the same time I can see how those words have upset you. But I just think your too sensitive sometimes. I know because I have had to toughen up myself and let things go.
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Post by mindgames on Apr 24, 2008 4:49:30 GMT -5
oops sorry jo jo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mindgames on Apr 24, 2008 5:21:13 GMT -5
That is putting it nicely I think Mike is in on the scam, he is the "flavor flav" the HYPE man! Piidders keep making the mistake of following a leader. Didn't the Mormons have more correct predictions? (and that is a diss) Mike, I think we all appreciate your optimistic attitude but we've been awaiting the interview since Dec. 8th, 2007 when you initially posted about it.* I for one was much more enthused at that time and submitted a list of potential questions. However, each and every time it's delayed I become more apathetic. No question, we can all agree that IAAP is very talented and his videos have shaken up PWR/PID to it's core but as far as anything he says or the promises he makes, you really have to take all of it with a grain of salt. ... That said, I'll continue to watch and listen but from a distance...ever hear the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf? ... *Edit to include: invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=ra&action=display&thread=94&page=1
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Post by mindgames on Apr 24, 2008 5:28:34 GMT -5
He is a 17 year old kid, how do you expect him to act? i think everyone is more or less over the interview because it will keep getting postponed etc. everyone wants an interview but have realized it won't happen or it will be a disappointment. personally i think it's stupid that we have to agree on another list. and that you (mike) are acting like this: "if you don't want the interview, fine... i'll make the list myself, but then don't complain" the question list was made a long time ago and it should have been answered a long time ago. i'm sure if we made a new one, we'd have to reschedule for another one becasue there are new questions and iaap has to come up with new answers. it's getting tiring for everyone and everyone has had enough. i don't mean to sound rude, and i really hope i don't, but now it's getting stupid. we just wanted the interview and we've been let down more than a handful of times. it's either we get it or that's it. iaap, as it stands right now, you sucks. and mike, thanks for all your hard work but i think you should stop becasue iaap is just making you work for nothing. that's all i have to say for now. bum ba da bum bum!
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Post by MikeNL on Apr 24, 2008 5:53:10 GMT -5
He is a 17 year old kid, how do you expect him to act? i think everyone is more or less over the interview because it will keep getting postponed etc. everyone wants an interview but have realized it won't happen or it will be a disappointment. personally i think it's stupid that we have to agree on another list. and that you (mike) are acting like this: "if you don't want the interview, fine... i'll make the list myself, but then don't complain" the question list was made a long time ago and it should have been answered a long time ago. i'm sure if we made a new one, we'd have to reschedule for another one becasue there are new questions and iaap has to come up with new answers. it's getting tiring for everyone and everyone has had enough. i don't mean to sound rude, and i really hope i don't, but now it's getting stupid. we just wanted the interview and we've been let down more than a handful of times. it's either we get it or that's it. iaap, as it stands right now, you sucks. and mike, thanks for all your hard work but i think you should stop becasue iaap is just making you work for nothing. that's all i have to say for now. bum ba da bum bum! well how would you act if hardly anybody does anything to help? so i said fine then don't complain.
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Post by blackbird on Apr 24, 2008 7:50:09 GMT -5
I have looked over a few pages in this thread - I admit I don't spend the time here that many do, there is just too much I am interested.
Finding out JPM was dead was a big, NO, REALLY big thing. Let me rephrase that, "AS FAR AS *I* AM CONCERNED (no one else), JPM did die - and he was murdered." **THAT IS MY PERSONAL BELIEVE** I'M JUST SHARING THAT. I REALLY DO want to know the WHOLE TRUTH about what really transpired back in those days !!
OK, that out of the way. I feel the best chance we have of hearing the TRUTH or as close to the TRUTH as can possibly come out. is from Iamaphoney. I said to someone recently concerning another conspiracy, that, "CONSPIRACIES RUN DEEP AND THEY GO HIGH"; so, this seems to be the case that is being presented by Iamaphoney. Which makes me wonder, how much trouble will someone be in for bringing out the truth. ((I could be totally wrong, I know - it sure won't be the first time I was totally wrong))
It seems to have been presented in the videos that "timing" or "numbers" play a part in things - so if waiting until a certain time is what this is about, then I AM WILLING TO WAIT. Iamaphoney has something to tell us and I KNOW HE WILL FOLLOW THROUGH. When he started with the first video, he said, "I AM PREPARING THE WORLD FOR *THE* REVELATION". He already KNEW the outcome. He's just working his way there.
It has gone on for a long time - but I only got into it about 9 mos. ago. Many of you were there in the beginning when the videos started. I know I'm getting "antsie" to hear some answers. But he is our best chance to learn some truths. He wouldn't have gone this far if he hadn't intended to carry through with the promise he made in the beginning.
So, maybe just take a deep breath. Walk away from the board for a short while and do something fun. I know we will get answers - ON HIS TIME LINE, though.
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Post by B on Apr 24, 2008 8:08:28 GMT -5
Blackbird, my concern is that he needs to get the info out before Bush declares martial law and ships us all to FEMA camps, or the economy completely collalpses, or war with Iran is started, etc. I don't think we have the luxury of lots of time with this.
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Post by blackbird on Apr 24, 2008 8:10:52 GMT -5
"B" ! You have a point there - LOL !!
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Post by vince on Apr 24, 2008 8:32:58 GMT -5
Blackbird, my concern is that he needs to get the info out before Bush declares martial law and ships us all to FEMA camps, or the economy completely collalpses, or war with Iran is started, etc. I don't think we have the luxury of lots of time with this. ....OR, maybe THIS IS the distraction! ("like butterflies are flying 'round my head. When I alone, I think of you, and life we'd lead if we could only be free from these.....")
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Post by MikeNL on Apr 24, 2008 8:40:15 GMT -5
Blackbird, my concern is that he needs to get the info out before Bush declares martial law and ships us all to FEMA camps, or the economy completely collalpses, or war with Iran is started, etc. I don't think we have the luxury of lots of time with this. ....OR, maybe THIS IS the distraction! ("like butterflies are flying 'round my head. When I alone, I think of you, and life we'd lead if we could only be free from these.....") BOOGIE WOOGIE when i was a robber in boston place!
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Post by sonofsocash on Apr 24, 2008 11:45:50 GMT -5
Ok. WTF happened to my account? I cant login, and it says my email address isn't in the db. Was it deleted? If so, please explain. And I found it funny that the WTCHKRFT video has just been removed. **update: Nevermind, the problem was in between the keyboard and the chair. Updating my avatar I accidentally changed my password
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Post by Spanky on Apr 24, 2008 12:40:15 GMT -5
if your username was socash you are still a member. i can post your other email address to prove it to you but i'm sure you don't want me to do that.
lets not make a mountain out of a molehill
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Post by horseloverphat on Apr 24, 2008 12:56:39 GMT -5
maybe he meant it in the biblical sense...afterall, I do tend to think we're supposed to be the 'beast' in that equation?
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 24, 2008 13:05:39 GMT -5
I have looked over a few pages in this thread - I admit I don't spend the time here that many do, there is just too much I am interested. Finding out JPM was dead was a big, NO, REALLY big thing. Let me rephrase that, "AS FAR AS *I* AM CONCERNED (no one else), JPM did die - and he was murdered." **THAT IS MY PERSONAL BELIEVE** I'M JUST SHARING THAT. I REALLY DO want to know the WHOLE TRUTH about what really transpired back in those days !! OK, that out of the way. I feel the best chance we have of hearing the TRUTH or as close to the TRUTH as can possibly come out. is from Iamaphoney. I said to someone recently concerning another conspiracy, that, "CONSPIRACIES RUN DEEP AND THEY GO HIGH"; so, this seems to be the case that is being presented by Iamaphoney. Which makes me wonder, how much trouble will someone be in for bringing out the truth. ((I could be totally wrong, I know - it sure won't be the first time I was totally wrong)) It seems to have been presented in the videos that "timing" or "numbers" play a part in things - so if waiting until a certain time is what this is about, then I AM WILLING TO WAIT. Iamaphoney has something to tell us and I KNOW HE WILL FOLLOW THROUGH. When he started with the first video, he said, "I AM PREPARING THE WORLD FOR *THE* REVELATION". He already KNEW the outcome. This is one of the very few conspiracy theories in which I have anything close to what amounts to a genuine interest. As a rule, I DON'T believe in conspiracy theories. It's not that people don't conspire or attempt to conspire -- obviously, they do. But I don't think that they necessarily conspire very effectively or efficiently or for lengthy periods of time and generally not so seamlessly as to avoid all discovery. And I certainly don't believe that conspiracies necessarily run deep or go high. That's far too vast of a generalization. The PID/PWR conspiracy is one that I normally wouldn't take seriously, except for the fact that there's reason to believe that there's SOMETHING there. There is a certain amount of weird change that McCartney seems (emphasis on SEEMS) to undergo during the 1966-67 period (but sometimes that change seems to be less than what meets the eye), and I'm convinced that the Beatles did drop clues to the effect that Paul was dead and then later prevaricated about not having done so (for whatever reason). So MAYBE there's something here. And maybe not. As for the idea that any PID/PWR conspiracy is part of some larger operation involving the U.S. government/intelligence entities, I don't believe that...not for a second. And as for your apparent belief in Iamaphoney's all-seeing prescience, remember that he long ago predicted that "McCartney" would DISAPPEAR on November 12, 2007. At least, that's what I take "He will disappear 20071112" to mean. And while I credit Iamaphoney with having his heart in the right place, McCartney's disappearance is an example of a major prediction that obviously didn't come true. Fortunately, I had enough prescience of my own to not allow my hopes to be raised too highly.
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 24, 2008 13:19:49 GMT -5
maybe he meant it in the biblical sense...afterall, I do tend to think we're supposed to be the 'beast' in that equation? So did Alexander Hamilton.
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Post by Spanky on Apr 24, 2008 14:02:19 GMT -5
glad things are sorted out socash, i've deleted the other account. let me know if you have any other problems
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Post by iameye on Apr 24, 2008 17:45:48 GMT -5
the interview isn't on may 1st the NEW question list deadline is on that day but really, i did a lot of hard work and stuff like: Why is IAAP obsessed with using multi frame flash and audio imagery methodically and extensively in every single video, far outweighing actual relevant content in favor of mass-hypnosis?aren't answerable by iamaphoney, can you imagine if i asked him that? tweak the list of 9 questions (before may 1st.), and they'll be answered. if you want something to happen, you have to give something in return, just like i did with this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this question, and you (mike) projecting it is unanswerable by IAAP is quite laughable. This question is extremely relevant as it is an undeniable key element to his videos, and pre editing discourse on the basis of keeping content all nice and cozy a la Barbara Walters style discredits the fundamental basis of interview technique. If it wasn't relevant, then he would have no need to defend his actions or editorial style and content. If it isn't relevant, he would have absolutely no reason to proliferate the hypnosis theme , yet he does, time after time after time after time. ..... It is a shame you fail and refuse to understand this issue. any other minds wish to discuss this issue?
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Post by skyward on Apr 24, 2008 17:58:06 GMT -5
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this question, and you (mike) projecting it is unanswerable by IAAP is quite laughable. This question is extremely relevant as it is an undeniable key element to his videos, and pre editing discourse on the basis of keeping content all nice and cozy a la Barbara Walters style discredits the fundamental basis of interview technique. If it wasn't relevant, then he would have no need to defend his actions or editorial style and content. If it isn't relevant, he would have absolutely no reason to proliferate the hypnosis theme , yet he does, time after time after time after time. ..... It is a shame you fail and refuse to understand this issue. any other minds wish to discuss this issue? I agree that it is a relevant question. I suppose it could be answered by IAAP Inc. that it is a cosmetic (or style) choice. It would then be a matter of questioning the style or method they choose to go about with presenting information in the series; rapid collages, multiple frames flashing in succession in the blink of an eye, the methodical manner of posting new videos over relatively long spans of time that seems to annoy a portion of the RA audience. I suppose they could say the message would be delivered to those people who bothered to stick with the series and those who have the patience to pull out single frames for scrutiny. Or they could say they want to mimic the Beatles methods that were used in their movie clips or songs.
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Post by The Deceptionist on Apr 24, 2008 18:02:09 GMT -5
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this question, and you (mike) projecting it is unanswerable by IAAP is quite laughable. This question is extremely relevant as it is an undeniable key element to his videos, and pre editing discourse on the basis of keeping content all nice and cozy a la Barbara Walters style discredits the fundamental basis of interview technique. If it wasn't relevant, then he would have no need to defend his actions or editorial style and content. If it isn't relevant, he would have absolutely no reason to proliferate the hypnosis theme , yet he does, time after time after time after time. ..... It is a shame you fail and refuse to understand this issue.
any other minds wish to discuss this issue?aye, eye.. i.. uh - yes... i do. i think that this and other questions relating to the - questions - should perhaps be addressed a little more in-depth? rather than being brushed aside or worse, ignored. i cant remember the first RA that had the 'flashing image' post-hypnotic feel to it, but it has been a key component ever since.. and, like many other RA related things, it has absolutely no explanation as to its usage or inclusion. being such a prominent factor of the RA, iameye is right in suggesting this question be included IMO. And if, like you think, it is an unanswerable question - then where does that leave IAAP? on that note: mike - why is this an unanswerable question for phoney? perhaps you have a good reason to believe this.. if you'd like to share it with us that would be nice and whatever happened with the question 65if wanted putting in? i must admit i haven't been thinking much about the list recently so its dropped out of my mind - did anything further get done about that? i remember you asked for some help - but you didn't really explain how we could help - and if you did (my apologies), i missed it.
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Post by skyward on Apr 24, 2008 18:10:19 GMT -5
What kind of question/answer session is this going to be? Like the one Bill did where he answered 'Stevie Wonder' in one of the latest RA clips? That Q&A session was not at all serious in nature and it didn't really do much other than to set up his video for Spies Like Us.
Will there be elaboration or will it be strictly terse and pedantic?
I don't think the answer to 65if2007's question would be likely to be given. They may have reason not to divulge that info. It is a good question and one that we all would like to know. Who is the source of that quote?
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I still think these are relevant, though they might be classified as being many questions under one general/broad topic:
The suitcase has become prominent in the recent RA videos, can you explain the significance of the suitcase and its contents in regard to the PID/PWR areas of discussion. Is it really Mal Evans' suitcase, how do you know it is legit, how did you get it, what was in it, elaborate on any juicy info?
Aleister Crowley has been prominently featured, his magick and the possibility that SirPaul is the Son of the Magickian. It has been presented, by Denny Laine, that SirPaul has dabbled with Crowley while they were in the Wings... What evidence have you uncovered that there might be more to the SirPaul-Crowley connection?
The CODE on the Love album was only reported on one website, the radio something or other site, edit- Here it is the rock radio. Why only one, as it makes it seem like it was just a spoof? Is there more to the CODE than the mirror image that is present on the many CODE signs you have placed in various locations? Did Apple ever respond to your discovery? Does this CODE relate to any other Beatles artwork/albums e.g. Sgt Pepper?
Charles Manson has also been featured in the RA series, as well as the aIIofthemwitches video series. Have you uncovered any information, other than that which has already been reported, that links Manson to the Beatles? Are you affiliated with other YouTubers' series of videos, like aIIofthemwitches and YouKnowMyName231?
YouKnowMyName231 further explores the magickal Tarot and secret societies and their relation to McCartney and the Beatles. This might link, as well, to the Kabbalah and astronomy/astrology. Can you elucidate more clearly further links that may not have been reported or displayed on the various discussion forums?
Here is a new one-
Who is MilesDeo and why does he want the Rotten Apple guy's head on a platter?
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Post by The Deceptionist on Apr 24, 2008 18:15:44 GMT -5
lol we could always go on strike.. lock all RA topics and kill all phoney discussion until he shits or gets off the pot?
it would be difficult in the same way as quitting smoking is difficult, and im saying this a bit tongue in cheek really - but...
im guessing we (NIR collective) make up a fairly large cross-section of his audience. without the interest of the NIR membership i wonder how many other sympathetic eyes (ie not trolls, yt spammers or die-hard critics) would be watching? and what would phoney do then? say 'oh well - you miss out' and rest on his laurels?
i dont actually think we should do that, as its a bit OTT, but i cant help but wonder what would happen if we did. most likely the whole thing would fade away into obscurity and we would always be left wondering what might have been.. but then again, perhaps thats been his plan all along? perhaps not. who knows? not me
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Post by Jude on Apr 24, 2008 18:16:58 GMT -5
It's not that it's unanswerable, TheDeceptionist, it's that it's---sorry---a stupid question. It's just a style, the flashing images. It's the way he, she, or they has decided to make videos. And every now and then you'll see one that doesn't have flashing imagery, so you can't say he's a one-trick pony. There's really no particular reason behind it, so why ask? But speaking of one-trick ponies..
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Post by The Deceptionist on Apr 24, 2008 18:24:38 GMT -5
The CODE on the Love album was only reported on one website, the radio something or other site, edit- Here it is the rock radio. Why only one, as it makes it seem like it was just a spoof? Is there more to the CODE than the mirror image that is present on the many CODE signs you have placed in various locations? Did Apple ever respond to your discovery? Does this CODE relate to any other Beatles artwork/albums e.g. Sgt Pepper? just a thought - has anyone else read the revision history pages and associated discussion for the wikipedia 'Love' entry? makes for quite an interesting read. i haven't got as far back in time yet as to see who originally posted it, but the 'code' reference was repeatedly removed and then put back up again. ...and there is much talk of iamaphoney en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_%28The_Beatles_album%29&dir=prev&offset=20070519214202&action=history
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Post by skyward on Apr 24, 2008 18:28:14 GMT -5
lol we could always go on strike.. lock all RA topics and kill all phoney discussion until he shits or gets off the pot? it would be difficult in the same way as quitting smoking is difficult, and im saying this a bit tongue in cheek really - but... im guessing we (NIR collective) make up a fairly large cross-section of his audience. without the interest of the NIR membership i wonder how many other sympathetic eyes (ie not trolls, yt spammers or die-hard critics) would be watching? and what would phoney do then? say 'oh well - you miss out' and rest on his laurels? i dont actually think we should do that, as its a bit OTT, but i cant help but wonder what would happen if we did. most likely the whole thing would fade away into obscurity and we would always be left wondering what might have been.. but then again, perhaps thats been his plan all along? perhaps not. who knows? not me Looking at forum activity, pre-IAAP Inc, you could generalize that the majority of discussion was on the periphery... We can examine and compare photographs to see differences. We can uncover clues in the artwork or in hidden messages in recordings. We can speculate on music lyrics. Just on that alone, I think many people do become open to the idea that something happened. The breakthrough that people were waiting for is the insider info that penetrates the periphery and gets to the core of the matter. There have been several of those 'prophets of PID', right? I'm not familiar with them all, but I know of ACV... The Rotten Apple series does carry the sense of legitimacy that, in some ways, maybe this is another breach into the core of the matter of the Beatles mystery in the mid to late 60s. I think that is the only way that any true revelations would come to pass, i.e. from someone from within the Apple corps or other 'mystical/occultic' circles related to Bill.
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Post by The Deceptionist on Apr 24, 2008 18:38:16 GMT -5
It's not that it's unanswerable, TheDeceptionist, it's that it's---sorry---a stupid question. It's just a style, the flashing images. It's the way he, she, or they has decided to make videos. And every now and then you'll see one that doesn't have flashing imagery, so you can't say he's a one-trick pony. There's really no particular reason behind it, so why ask? But speaking of one-trick ponies..im sorry jude, but evidently there is more to it than that. there can't be no reason to it... hm - perhaps i should have been clearer.. i didnt mean it like 'why did you choose that style' a la 'why did you decide to paint that picture in a cubist style' .. more 'why did you chose to display the content you displayed in that way - with no immediate, obvious, singular or definable link between the flashing images and PID/PWR' i mean you could make any number of wild links simply by association, and that is exactly what has gone on here - pure guess-work - some inspired guess-work at times, but guess-work nonetheless .. makes me wonder if that was the intention hm.. i doubt i've explained myslef at all well in this post.. dammit, i dont even know myself what i mean ... god, i swear this whole '9 questions' scenario was designed to just keep leading us down dark alleyways - its all so bloody subjective - he could say anything to anything really.. we might as well ask him the meaning of life while we're there
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