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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 17:22:22 GMT -5
If I started this thread, what happened to my post? It's been so long ago, I wanted to read what was there. Wow. That's what happens when you mess with the Tavistock Elite! 'When it gets dark I tow your heart away'
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 17:20:32 GMT -5
It seems strange that Olivia has never shown her grief when interviewed at losing him at age 58? Yeah...it's thing called 'reserve' associated with 'privacy'. I'm sure on TV these days everybody comes out tearfully on Oprah with a book on their grief but, actually, by all accounts, it took her strength to see them through the incident and his recovery. Have a bit a 'compassion' and 'moderation', please. You have heard of these concepts?
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 17:17:09 GMT -5
Check the big brain on DR. H
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 17:12:44 GMT -5
I can never hear 'Lovely Rita' without welling up with joyful tears at that descending vocal harmony between John and Paul into the Paul-exclaimed 'Rita!' and piano solo. It is the work of angels! Absolutely divine. Now, if 'Bill' came into the band and a couple of months later came up with that, he's not Satan but GOD ALMIGHTY
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 16:42:52 GMT -5
I know about JFK, RFK, MLK, but who is OKC? I know KFC....and for many who have eaten there, could be a hidden conspiracy as well.... Not sure whether to take you seriously or not. It could be you're joking. Perhaps you're always joking
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 16:38:45 GMT -5
sun god- god of music and poetry...a wine made from botannicals...roots, bark, stems... Curious names he has taken over the years...a legend in his own mind...a man of many faces and identities..... Maybe he really is a multiple personality victim...quite a lot of alters... Lovely Rita "Made her seem a little like a military man"
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 16:36:44 GMT -5
I have always been confused as to who used that name as a pseudonym. I have been getting mixed messages about it for a long time. So, I finally researched it. I read that "Paul" McCartney had used that pseudonym when he produced " The Urban Spaceman " for the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band.
I researched it & this is what I came up with: It seems to me that it was Faul, not Paul, who made up that pseudonym. Actually, research a bit longer and you'll find Neil Innes telling who made it up
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 16:33:41 GMT -5
Notice that the hand gesture above Bill's cartoon head is the occultist "horned god" sign. Occultists and Satanists use this gesture to show their allegiance to satan. Rock stars use this hand signal in concerts and I've seen Bill use this gesture in his concerts. It's also an Italian insult related to the g spot but that's not important right now. Any chance you could point us to Bill using the Satanic signal in his concerts or maybe it was one you were at? I didn't think so
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 16:04:08 GMT -5
well now perhaps I should draw your attention to what's happening in the US where a provider of a forum as been put in prison for what someone else had said on their website. But hey look at some Pathe News archives filmed in the Channels Islands Any more information re a forum provider who has been imprisoned because of what someone else said on their website? The US laws on such things are actually much more liberal than people might think. David Beckham, for example, could not get much satisfaction in the courts there when a woman claimed she had been his lover and it made various newspapers and mags. With all his money and respectable public image. From what I know a fair bit of the action initiated against website and forum owners is done as more of a bluff. There is a growing toughness regarding intellectual property as websites that have lyrics of famous or well known songs have been told to cough up the money or take the lyrics done, same with photos. We should all enjoy the freedom at present to quote Paul McCartney lyrics and Beatles lyrics, share photos etc because it seems on the net there is an over-abundance of intellectual property focus. It seems the music monopolies have enough time and money to trawl around. I think The Beatles' Apple company but McCartney in particular learned something about copyrights and licensing that few others have yet learned, which is that being generous about it brings rewards. Due to being first in the game of multimedia merchandising, Epstein, The Beatles' manager, made humungous mistakes such as giving away more than the lion's share to merchandising licensees, something that afflicted him with the others for the rest of his life (would that he had had the Tavistock Institute and the British Crown running tings as they could have put him right ) The Beatles themselves were so amazed at the attention they received stateside that they gave promotion for free to every media organisation who asked them (jingles, interviews, you name it...in a market where celebrities' managers coined it for every appearance of an act even if in support of product release!) What happened because of this mistake was that a lot more people had stock in The Beatles' success. In fact, you could say that American merchandising and media companies stood to cash in on their success much more than either they, their manager or their record companies. And you'd be right. The estimated LOSSES of Epstein's and The Beatles' british naivety in the American market were gargantuan (a billion was estimated before the sixties were out and that's when a billion was a lot of money ) Despite or, rather, because of all of this, the result for the band was extraordinary success because doors were FLUNG open to let the CA$H-COWS through. This, of course, is quite at odds with the idea that the British were coining it! So when you talk of tighter restrictions on copyright etc (and you're right...the internet Wild West is over), it's not likely to be coming from Beatles and Macca Inc. In fact, Apple and MPL have been not just reticent on taking actions but positively encouraging. There's substantial evidence to suggest they released 'Rock Band' not only as a video game but, very knowingly, as a samples source for remixers and samplists mashing them up for whom they have gone on record (sic) with admiration and support. EMI, if they had looked into what was being offered (multitrack separations) would undoubtedly have objected. Macca meanwhile doesn't seem to take action against anybody even people who call him a murderer in the public domain.
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 15:47:46 GMT -5
Roscoe said "There is no Satan. It is the bogey man under the bed for the sheep". The interesting thing is that almost NOWHERE in the Bible does it say we should fear Satan! The first line of the Lords Prayer is "I shall fear no evil". So who should we fear? It says many times that that we should fear the WRATH OF THE LORD! So the REAL "bogeyman" in the Bible is God when she gets mad! In other words God is a woman and "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!". A woman can make men SUFFER! Who should you fear? Nobody. But never mind what the Bible says, what does the Churches say about Satan? Satan is Saturn. Not all of them have the responsibility-denying cheek to externalise 'the adversary' as a 'character' (Satan made me say this) from the Wikipedia on 'Satan' Bahá'à Faith In the Bahá'à Faith, Satan is not regarded as an independent evil power as he is in some faiths, but signifies the lower nature of humans. `Abdu'l-Bahá explains: "This lower nature in man is symbolized as Satan — the evil ego within us, not an evil personality outside."[46][47] All other evil spirits described in various faith traditions such as fallen angels, demons and jinns are also metaphors for the base character traits a human being may acquire and manifest when he turns away from God.[48] I don't know about anybody else but this seems like the best summary.
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 15:03:50 GMT -5
But seeing the clip of "Bill" on David Letterman and the replacement story, and his answer pointing his finger to his nose, as a gesture..a purposeful hand signal...tells me that he speaks...but the multitude just brush it off as a colossal joke. It's like in your face, but most people accept it as a joke. The joke is on us. You should see the rehearsal
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 14:54:37 GMT -5
But don't use the Bible and the God of the Bible and say it's a woman and the devil is a man. That is unscriptural. If you want to talk about a goddess, then just say goddess, don't mix the two. I haven't followed the babblings of Faul Mc Cartney, as the very sight of him makes me sick to my stomach, and I pay no mind to his music or watch his performances. He's not Paul and I'm sick of him continuing this masquerade and ruining what's left of the global image of Paul Mc Cartney being this withered old fool on the hill. These younger generations have this idea of Paul Mc Cartney as an old fart. It's quite tragic. These younger generations also seem to have the impression, mooted by Lennon in 1966, that what's wrong with Christianity is its followers, particularly toward the right wing of Phelps. Concepts such as justice, peace, charity and goodwill from the jewish longhair Maestro seem to have been perverted by this 'elite' into hatred against any threat to the Christian right to get really fat in an SUV and die. 'Is it because I won't eat the lamb of God?' -Faul McCartney
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 14:29:38 GMT -5
A bloke who came on here best part of a decade ago and whose initial posts are still here under a changed moniker. He was a PID fan and was onto a new strand. As we now know this involved his innovation of writing songs based upon backward transcription of Beatles songs. A talented video editor (with or without a team) by day and a talented musician (with or without a band and producer) by night, he went on to play the usual Truther game of 'connect the dots' alongside the usual PID game of 'Let's Pretend' and, fashioning a connection between Crowley's backward-audio fixation via wordplay association between his 'Winged Beetle' and Macca, went on to assemble a lot of clips from official and hard-to-get bootleg sources (that won't generally be flagged up as such by collectors who have no time for PID) along with falsified audio in an acclaimed audio visual presentation 'Winged Beetle' given away free and used to launch his album 'The Right Album' which he did by revealing a further extraordinary talent for marketing (with or without a team) to an established audience prepared to believe that the stork really DOES deliver babies (it's the ELITE who have covered this up) Whether or not his real name is about the interwebs (who could know except his mama?), he's the guy who appeared in 'Billy Martin and Me', reaching a new plateau of self-destruction, having failed to stop his ego-gratification as 'author requiring credit', thereby threatening the substantial legend he had built (occult legends shouldn't put really their pic on their own Facebook pages..it ruins 'enigma'. He's been rather deserted by his fans of late by virtue of having given the game away (not too early, just inevitably given that he needs to shift product) So, among the faithful, it's back to 'Let's pretend he didn't' which along with the traditional cultural right wing's 'Let's mash it all up with Lyndon Larouche and blame everything on the jews...erm..I mean 'British'..AGAIN', means that American traditional values are now represented by a broad phalanx of the 'Christian CIA Petroleum Committee for the annihilation of all non-whites', an organisation whose Scientology has yet to be appreciated. Still held in high esteem as a creative individual (certainly by me), it's nevertheless a period of no possible further consolidation of success while he remains on the stage, now that the lights are actually off, the audience on the 'magickal' bus home and the cleaners hard at work with their brushes. Did I leave anything out? Didn't think so. QED
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 14:10:23 GMT -5
You're starting to irritate me now. I'm already there....and I find this so annoying that this is the answer for everything. Where are the moderators advising this soul to stop doing this? Actually what I really find annoying is people like yourself LOVELYRITA who constantly libel 'McCartney' whether replaced or not as a murderer when there is no valid speculation even amongst the wilder theories here to support that in the slightest. Any evidence with that? I would have thought that if there was any moderating around here to be done it would be on the likes of yourself. There is no doubt, that in the UK at least and probably Europe in general, there is going to be a crackdown on 'conspiracy sites'. And quite frankly, I think that libellous extremes like this will get the site caught and, actually, deservedly. Just my freedom of speech, you understand
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Post by delysid on Oct 16, 2014 13:35:43 GMT -5
Well he did buy a gun for 'Oh Woman Oh Why', I suppose.
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Post by delysid on Oct 2, 2014 20:46:53 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more although I think the idea of exposing McFake can be dropped by getting yourself a passport (if needed) and going to Liverpool to run those theories by some scousers. DREAMING BIG for me would be to get all those who are wasting their energy refuting Clare Kuehn's batshit interpretations of (alleged) Lennon doodles and Plastic Tina's veiled espousal of white supremacy to assemble in some greater cause for which they have inadvertently pre-honed their research and reasoning skills via the fun-house of PID. Getting things done. Hmmm... I'm a born procrastinator so I'll have to get back to you on that.
But seriously, I back your spirit, hotman!
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Post by delysid on Oct 2, 2014 20:31:08 GMT -5
Would hate to be taken for a Bush apologist but the idea that he (or Poppy above) are saluting Satan with that sign has been thoroughly debunked as that particular use alludes to some Texan cattle-ranchin'.
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Post by delysid on Sept 30, 2014 18:09:54 GMT -5
An excerpt from a little something I'm working up:
"In PID, what is grounded, which will not lend itself to wanton exchange, replacement, simulacrum, and falsification is to be eliminated at every turn for once we are in a realm of substitution, when language represents bodies, then bodies can be conjured up, named, clothed, characterised, and killed off, however you like."
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Post by delysid on Sept 30, 2014 17:52:30 GMT -5
I do remember when that happened. It was quite a shock to the system at the time because it did introduce the 'real world' to the IAAP continuum and I think the varied interpretations of the action really kicked things off. I'm not sure I ever saw it although I know some people had already grabbed it. That it attracted legal attention remains curious.
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Post by delysid on Sept 30, 2014 9:56:09 GMT -5
I'm not really a detailed follower of the events, just the content which I reload from at intervals. But thanks for this massive update. I need to digest it but yeah I think I'll send a couple of emails soon. PM me if you think I need to know more. (or less)
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Post by delysid on Sept 30, 2014 9:39:26 GMT -5
Does anyone else think the Maclen business is much ado about nothing? The chorus of the song is deliberately based around the chord progression of "Hey Jude," and that song is quoted along with "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds," "Strawberry Fields Forever," "Hello Goodbye" and "All You Need Is Love." Could the meeting with Paul at Apple before its release just be a handshake agreement to get around the copyright infringement? So Lennon/McCartney could still get some compensation while Terry Knight remains the sole songwriting credit? When the soundtrack to The Rutles was released, ATV sued Neil Innes because the original songs he wrote for the project were based on Beatles songs that ATV owned. In lieu of a nasty (no pun intended) protracted court battle, they elected to change the songwriting credits to Lennon/McCartney/Innes. Could it be that a similar arrangement was made with Terry Knight? Or would it be different if Neil wrote a song called "Stig Has Been Dead For Ages, Honestly?" Aren't you missing something? What would prompt Terry Knight, in the first place, to write a song suggesting that Paul McCartney is dead and why would Maclen want to involve itself with such a song? Terry Knight was quite a media manipulator and a bit of a "rights wiggler" as his later work with Grand Funk Railroad demonstrated. The facts of the matter stop at what he's said about the song (ie. it was inspired by his experiences in London at Apple's invitation). The speculation can begin as to what his inspiration means (I'd call it good poetry myself) but one thing's for sure... He produced two versions of the song, one of which clearly reveals the debt to Lennon/McCartney compositions in the arrangement and the other of which was probably an edit to lessen this. I've never established which version was released as a single but would suspect the latter, as the record company and his publishing company would surely have been nervous with the former. But the real interesting hit is WHY he transgressed and here's my speculation: Knight came up with a 'can't lose'. He saw that using bits of beatle songs in the arrangement enhanced the commercial potential of the song and that if there were any legal action, this would draw publicity, further enhancing the connection and the commercial potential. The record company and his publisher, if advised of this in advance, wouldn't have seen a 'can't lose' in this but if he bothered to point it out to them at all, I would bet he argued this point with them. The record's withdrawal and reissue with the MacLen credit have never been firmly established as the result of 'cease and desist' (as far as I've read) so it's possible the first release WAS the 'explicit' version and the record company got worried and reissued off their own bat or that they hadn't quite seen it for what it was at first. Whether brought about by force or not, a standard resolution of this, once agreed it can happen at all, is that the original composers take the lot (witness The Verve's transgression on 'Bitter Sweet Symphony' of Allen Klein-owned Stones turf or any examples of sampling where the sampled composers are either added to the publishing or replace the samplists on the publishing, depending upon many factors including length of quote and disposition of the quoted) It's also possible that Knight, seeing he'd cracked the Billboard 100, reset his whole campaign to try for a bigger score, perhaps having now earned the full backing of record company. EVEN MORE INTERESTING: As some have noted, he was in prime position and physical location to kick off the rumour and could well have been 'the musicians who came through town talking about it' in some origin stories for PID as he and his band were verifiably gigging around the territory at the precise time it first sparked. Once things had kicked off with the rumour, he surely advised his record company of the record's relevance so that they took out a Billboard ad emphasising it. So all in all, I'd speculate that Terry Knight has to be a major suspect as (an?) AUTHOR of PID. Further speculation could have it that he was co-author and cooked it up with Macca and/or The Beatles. There's *some* unlikelihood, given the disarray of Macca's personal affairs (pun intended) at the time and the Beatles/Apple's as he witnessed. BUT, leaving all THAT aside, we're back to the fact of Terry Knight having demonstrably shown 'opportunism' throughout this and other involvements in the record industry. He took a chance. He didn't know what he would find there.
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Post by delysid on Sept 30, 2014 9:12:28 GMT -5
I was wondering when MC Hammer would reappear
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Post by delysid on Sept 30, 2014 9:07:59 GMT -5
I take it Beacon that 'Let's Pretend' games notwithstanding, that it's now firmly established that MH is the "culprit"? I'd just hope he's a bit more relaxed about that being known now as I wouldn't want to be suspected of 'being on his tail', if you know what I mean.
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Post by delysid on Sept 30, 2014 9:01:03 GMT -5
Hey nice info. I think it would definitely be worth drinking it over. I will make sure you're in the loop if anything occurs!
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Post by delysid on Sept 30, 2014 8:33:33 GMT -5
Another thing to say clearly is that I'm a big fan of what IAAP had achieved right up to the "Billy and Me' video, although the suitcases and Mal Evans stuff I'm just catching up on caused an equal 'OH NO. WHAT IS HE DOING??' although 'the treasure hunt' aspect is great! Of course the answer is 'promoting The Right Album' whose production, taken together with all costs of the 'advance promo' of 'Rotten' and 'Winged' is a sizable investment to recoup although it's not, as you seem to have imagined, hundreds of thousands which would suggest the need for major funding, leading to a theory of official backing. The real cost of the whole thing has been his time which he has given a lot of life to, provided the results for free, really, and I'd like to see him rewarded for it in whatever way he needs. Regardless, he remains a bona fide LEGEND!!
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