Video - alt take on ADITL

[The Deceptionist]

jarvitronics said:

It is probably time to re-remind everybody.. [that] read[ing] anything into the images in the film would be like chasing snipes.

-j

True, but its a bizarre and interesting choice of images to montage through the clip. I'd quite like to hear the editor's opinions or reasons behind selection of the images.

And the video is also surprisingly advanced in PID-lore considering its age. I wouldn't have thought that many in the mid-70's would have read all of that into PID at that time - if indeed that is what they're trying to say

[JoJo]

I'll give this one a bit more credence, as it was just a bit more difficult to get a film distributed back then, (no Youtube) although it was a film aimed at the secondary school educational film market. You could say he made good use of the alloted time he had to work with.

One thing I found out much later is that he used stills from this book, The Beatles Illustrated Lyrics, a definite worth see, perhaps it's time to fire up the scanner.

[mommybird]

Sounds good to me, Jo. I'm always looking for more photos to add to my many photobuckets !

[GN]

This is really creepy.
If not true why that?

wings said:

Ah, but he's drenched, so then we can probably narrow it down to the UK. Or Seattle...

Wings why are you saying that?

Any photo of Paul's nape?

[mommybird]

That photo is very disturbing. His one arm seems twisted in an unnatural way. He seems limp, which means that rigor most likely passed. It will be hard finding a photo of the nape of Paul's neck. Even if I do, I don't know if it will help here.
I will try...

[CoconutFudge]

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus... I didn't need to see all that. Freaky deaky indeed.

[LOVELYRITA]

If it wasn't JPM's remains, then it's an implication of who it was supposed to be. The images invoking that it was him...and not some victim they read about in a newspaper, although that is how the story is supposed to go as to the creation of the song.

But we must remember, the stories behind the songs that we are given may just be a cover for what it really meant.

That third pic really creeped me out the most.

[yellomattercustard]

It's time to bump this baby back up to the top because I think it deserves it. There's some real important stuff going on here that I think deserves further investigation.

Is there anyone that can blow up the morgue photo, with the bodies in the coffins? The one in the foreground - could that be JPM?

One must wonder how these photos (if genuine) were obtained and also how they were leaked into the mainstream.

[MikeNL]

how about a crossfade from the crying bill with JPM?, i would find that very intresting..
also, i wonder about the better quality version of this

[The Deceptionist]

crying bill?

okay... I see which pic you mean - I just tried lining them up and they're nowhere near close. not even worth seeing the fade. its way off

[thisone]

First time seeing this thread -- that's all I needed! Unbelievable. I agree with most that's been said here. Dare I kiss the vipers fang indeed. I see the same psyop techniques are still being used. The faces in the explosion and smoke are all over the 9/11 footage.

[yellomattercustard]

thedeceptionist said:

crying bill?

okay... I see which pic you mean - I just tried lining them up and they're nowhere near close. not even worth seeing the fade. its way off

I don't think it's Bill/Faul either. I think it's just supposed to be another random person in a state of mourning. But who knows? Is that really Paul hanging out of a crashed car? We may never really know.

It's far too gruesome and morbid to be someone taking casual artistic liberties with the Beatles music as background. This is morbid and gruesome with a purpose! But what???

[MikeNL]

that crying bill just looks an awfull lot like faul... and it can be him before surgury...

what i think is that he had to learn how to be paul and he could't do anything else:

So I sat in the attic,
A piano at my nose,
And the wind played a dreadful cantata (cantata...).
Sore was I from the crack of an enemys hose,
And the horrible sound of tomato (tomato...).

Catch up (Ketchup (ketchup))
Super Fury ((Soup and puree (soup and puree))
Dont get left behind (get left behind)...

Catch up (Ketchup (ketchup))
Super Fury ((Soup and puree (soup and puree))
Dont get left behind (get left behind)... (get left behind)... (get left behind)... hindd...

When a rattle of rats had awoken,
The sinews, the nerves and the veins.
My piano was boldly outspoken, in attempts to repeat its refrain.

So I stood with a knot in my stomach,
And I gazed at that terrible sight
Why do you ... in a barrel (Of two youngsters concealed in a barrel,)
Sucking monkberry moon delight.

Monkberry moon delight,
Monkberry moon delight.

Well, I know my banana is older than the rest,
And my hair is a tangled beretta.
When I leave my pajamas to billy budapest,
And I dont get the gist of your letter (your letter...).

Catch up! (catch up),
Get some kids ((cats and kittens))
Dont get left behind (get left behind)...

Monkberry moon delight...
Monkberry moon delight...

I think in this song he is trying to tell the conditions he was in before he became paul...

[B]

Not at all, if I say so myself.
This is a description of Paul's imprisonment (most likely in France) imo.
(The search engine is being useless this morning, but see the Magical Mystery Tour comic
cartoon of a green Charles DeGaul (French president) reaching for Paul, who is on the bus, wearing
a beret, as artists in France do.)
It was not a jail, obviously, but apparently he was being detained in someone's house.

He was being beaten with a rubber hose, and fed ketchup in water or tomato puree in water.
He says "Don't get left behind" because obviously if you do, you'll be treated terribly.

"When a rattle of rats had awoken,
The sinews, the nerves and the veins.
My piano was boldly outspoken,
in attempts to repeat its refrain."

The sounds of a rescue mission sneaking in (sounding like rats scurrying around)
made him alert, (he understood what was happening)
and he pounded loudly on the piano in the attic to let them
know where he was.

"So I stood with a knot in my stomach,
And I gazed at that terrible sight
Why do you ... in a barrel (Of two youngsters concealed in a barrel,)
Sucking monkberry moon delight."

So while hoping to be rescued, he looks out the window and sees two of the rescue team
hiding in a barrel and smoking Monkberry Moon Delight, instead
of trying to find him. He has a knot
in his stomach because he wants to be found, and is sickened that his rescue team is so blasee.

The verse about: Well, I know my banana is older than the rest,
And my hair is a tangled beretta.
When I leave my pajamas to billy budapest,
And I dont get the gist of your letter

is basically an add-on verse to tell John that he doesn't get what he's saying about him being a
light-weight performer. The banana reference is a put down of John, saying John is gay, and likes
younger men. He leaves that role to "Billy Budapest".

But basically the song is about Paul having been unlawfully imprisoned for ransom money.

These lyrics in the Tom Petty song "Refugee" describe what happened:

"Somewhere, somehow,
Somebody must have kicked you around some.
Who knows? Maybe you were kidnapped,
Tied up, taken away, and held for ransom."

The song "Uncle Albert/
Admiral Halsey is about the English authorities stalling for time with the French hostage takers
while the rescue team was being secretly sent. All the water and train sounds at the end are the
actual rescue and escape taking place.

I suspect Faul's training took place in Nairobi:

invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=Clues&action=display&thread=1164661855&page=65

Reply #1612 on Oct 12, 2007, 12:39am
Tafultong wrote:

BE DEALS said...
"I ged afreid becase all es being told now and i afreid they will asg to my dads workk in nairobi and so they wil sue mye family
he was paid manny monny from beatlse"

Probably not "from beatlse" as much as "the Rotten Apple".

[MikeNL]

Jojo, the footage that you have... are you able to make pictures from the other flashing images in the movie?

maybe we can do something with better resolution versions of those crying bill and those teeth with macca and jpm in it..

[MikeNL]

WOW... i watched it .. and what i saw was something very strange..

WHY are they putting in a fade from 1964 paul to 1969 paul
at the end

[MikeNL]

This is still a very important thing to discuss, i think.. maybe track that braverman guy down. give him a call, and ask where he got those images from/why he put it in there/and who they are. that would give some clearance over this film

[ramone]

Why is that fade there -who knows. If there's a point being made they're the same guy-sorry, no way.
The nose is certainly not the same.
And check the ear. The lobe gains about 2 sq. cm. of flesh thru the fade.
But, especially starting at about 09.00 sec. into it.
Put your cursor arrow at the bottom of JPM's and watch the lobe grow right past it.

[fireman]

mikenl said:

This is still a very important thing to discuss, i think.. maybe track that braverman guy down. give him a call, and ask where he got those images from/why he put it in there/and who they are. that would give some clearance over this film

Mike, I do agree that it would be very interesting to speak with Braverman about this video. Although it is NOT directly linked to the Apple, and we need to keep that in mind, this video is much more than just a simple short film about the Beatles. Braverman must of had something more in mind - Does anyone think the images he used were selected at random?

[fireman]

JoJo, are you able to "clear up" the image showing the hanging body like what you did with the row of corpses/coffins? I don't believe the image of the hanging body has ever been treated to show with better resolution...

[MikeNL]

fireman said:

JoJo, are you able to "clear up" the image showing the hanging body like what you did with the row of corpses/coffins? I don't believe the image of the hanging body has ever been treated to show with better resolution...

i agree, we can overlay the color information from the low quality pic to the red one.. so we have a good color image of those 2 stills

[JoJo]

Here's the capture from the celluloid version:

[MikeNL]

jojo said:

Here's the capture from the celluloid version:

ALRIGHT! some things that immidiatly cought my attention:
there is a second guy in the frame, flip your head or screen upside down, and look to the right (upside down)

the hanging corpse is maybe 2 corpses, the front one's head is cut off, and the back one doesn't have hands(or clapped under the railing thingy)

nah, this is what i THINK it is.. i really don't know, but it sure is very creepy film, and it is a weird constructed image.. you can't really see whats going on there

[The Deceptionist]

i see at least one head, three hands with limbs and one possible hand (in grey)

[LOVELYRITA]

To what appears to be the "left" arm of the corpse,(right on picture) doesn't look like it belongs to the body whose right arm and head we see. Unless the arm had been broken or dislocated...

I never noticed in the pic before that the car looks like the white volkswagon.

If this isn't a picture of a real wreck, but just a simulation, it's still very haunting.