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Post by JoJo on Jan 7, 2008 21:25:52 GMT -5
Intrestingly, the body hanging out frame transitions to the screaming woman, then back to the body, back to the women, and back to the body one last time:  The women are in the back seat of a car, the old Beetles had a semi-oval back window:  The window is cracked, makes you think of a bullet hole, although it also looks like an artistic representation of the sun. |
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Post by fireman on Jan 8, 2008 1:29:09 GMT -5
Here's the capture from the celluloid version:  Thanks JoJo! |
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Post by fireman on Jan 8, 2008 1:44:22 GMT -5
Intrestingly, the body hanging out frame transitions to the screaming woman, then back to the body, back to the women, and back to the body one last time: The women are in the back seat of a car, the old Beetles had a semi-oval back window: The window is cracked, makes you think of a bullet hole, although it also looks like an artistic representation of the sun. JoJo, excellent observations. ... As for what the hole in the glass represents, I would say bullet hole. Makes sense, especially when you think about the possible reason for the car crash image that follows (in terms of the cause)... ... Also JoJo, maybe it would be worth taking a look at a higher quality version of this one:  ... (Jojo, sorry for all of the requests...come to think of it, can you just post higher quality pics of every image?  ;D  joking, of course...) ... (maybe  ... (It sure is fun chasin' snipes...) |
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Post by pauliedied on Jan 8, 2008 4:52:52 GMT -5
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Post by mindgames on Jan 8, 2008 4:58:24 GMT -5
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 8, 2008 18:19:54 GMT -5
That's an interesting thing, the bullet hole...someone shoots at JPM through the windshield and hits him, causes him to wreck the vehicle....
Very eeerie.
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Post by JoJo on Jan 9, 2008 17:55:25 GMT -5
In the near future, remind me if it takes too long..
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Post by iameye on Jan 9, 2008 18:34:02 GMT -5
In the near future, remind me if it takes too long.. The photos from AHDN that I requested of Paul in a beard in multiple angles is taking WAY too effin long, jo. oh wait did I ask you for this?    |
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Post by fireman on Jan 10, 2008 0:04:44 GMT -5
In the near future, remind me if it takes too long.. JoJo...words escape me... ... ;D |
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 10, 2008 1:43:10 GMT -5
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 10, 2008 1:50:04 GMT -5
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 10, 2008 8:08:12 GMT -5
He also did the illustrated Beatles lyrics I think.
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Post by JoJo on Jan 10, 2008 18:00:42 GMT -5
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 10, 2008 22:46:12 GMT -5
The next to the last picture, Paul's face in the middle of something... what is that? Looks like ears in the middle on the right side of pic...
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 11, 2008 2:19:25 GMT -5
jojo are all of those images in the book also? This book sounds more important than the filmstrip.
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Post by fireman on Jan 11, 2008 14:18:52 GMT -5
jojo are all of those images in the book also? This book sounds more important than the filmstrip. Some of the images are in the book, not all. |
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Post by fireman on Jan 11, 2008 14:31:16 GMT -5
JoJo, thanks for posting the pics! ... Also, look at the license plate:  Possibly a clue? ... Either way, it's an interesting image of a pot still in place of the engine... ... Maybe another hint at alchohol playing a part in the crash? |
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Post by iameye on Jan 11, 2008 15:56:33 GMT -5
Reminds me of   "An omphalos is an ancient religious stone artifact, or baetylus. In Greek, the word omphalos means "navel" According to the ancient Greeks, Zeus sent out two eagles to fly across the world to meet at its center, the "navel" of the world. Omphalos stones used to denote this point were erected in several areas surrounding the Mediterranean Sea; the most famous of those was at the oracle in Delphi." "Most accounts locate the Omphalos in the temple adyton near the Pythia. The stone itself (which may have been a copy) has a carving of a knotted net covering its surface, and has a hollow centre, which widens towards its base. The Omphalos at Delphi came to be identified as the stone which Rhea wrapped in swaddling clothes, pretending it was Zeus. This was to deceive Cronus, his father, who swallowed his children so they could not grow up and depose him as he had deposed his own father, Uranus. Omphalos stones were said to allow direct communication with the gods. Leicester Holland (1933) has suggested that the stone was hollow to channel intoxicating vapours breathed by the Oracle. Erwin Rohde wrote that the Python at Delphi was an earth spirit, who was conquered by Apollo, and buried under the Omphalos, and that it is a case of one god setting up his temple on the grave of another. Christian destruction of the site in the fourth century at the order of Emperors Theodosius and Arcadius makes all suggestions about its use tentative." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OmphalosSo the car could be said to be fueled by the Omphalos, or we can go as far to say the car was transporting the Omphalos which is open for conjecture. Is that a 37 on the plate? |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 11, 2008 16:40:48 GMT -5
Something that struck me, in the pic of the two silhouettes in the car reminds me of the cut out heads of John and Paul from the "Flip Your Wig" game. It was the pieces of the game....
Reminds me of when I put John and Paul through MOnopoly and used those tokens instead of the Monopoly pieces...
Nuff on that...
I read that is where Onassis sent Jackie after JFK's assassination...where she went through some ritualistic ceremony...something like a rebirth...I can't remember all the details...as I read that some time ago...
But Jackie and JFK were like the sun god and goddess of Camelot...the new world order of a new age...but that all died in Dallas in 1963
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Post by 65if2007 on Jan 11, 2008 18:17:08 GMT -5
Something that struck me, in the pic of the two silhouettes in the car reminds me of the cut out heads of John and Paul from the "Flip Your Wig" game. It was the pieces of the game.... Reminds me of when I put John and Paul through MOnopoly and used those tokens instead of the Monopoly pieces... Nuff on that... I read that is where Onassis sent Jackie after JFK's assassination...where she went through some ritualistic ceremony...something like a rebirth...I can't remember all the details...as I read that some time ago... But Jackie and JFK were like the sun god and goddess of Camelot...the new world order of a new age...but that all died in Dallas in 1963 No, it didn't; it was BORN afterwards. JFK was a crooked politician (maybe no more so than the next politician) and Jackie was his intellectually challenged gun moll. It wasn't until AFTER Dallas that a legend was born around JFK as a god. The word "Camelot" was not conceived as a metaphor for the Kennedy adminisration until then. It's all perfectly ridiculous. John Lennon was a very flawed man, and he knew it. He would have nothing but disdain for those who try to convert him into a peace god today. In a song that he wrote shortly after the Beatles broke up, he insisted, "I'm just John" and declared that he didn't believe in any gods - human or metaphysical, including the Beatles. In that same song, he also declared, "I don't believe in Kennedy". |
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Post by fireman on Jan 11, 2008 18:34:51 GMT -5
Is that a 37 on the plate? Yes. ... BTW, nice post. |
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Post by JoJo on Jan 11, 2008 18:47:29 GMT -5
Is that a 37 on the plate? Yes. ... BTW, nice post. I think it's 37LAM12, for what's worth. All the British plates I've seen from the era, such as LMW281F seem to follow that format of three letters, three number and a letter, so probably this is some other country, could be wrong. Fireman is correct, there are a fair number of images from the book in the film, but far from all. |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 12, 2008 8:15:30 GMT -5
I don't know when the imagery of this myth was birthed, all I know is there is the idea of it all. It was a myth to keep the image of JFK as some perfect person. Jackie was no saint either.
It's all in the packaging of the promotion and the spin afterwards. I don't say I subscribe to the myth. Because I was too young to really know what was going on at the time it was happening.
We are all fed this line of information, mostly prefabricated myth, and we are taught it's correct.
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Post by B on Jan 12, 2008 16:33:06 GMT -5
65if2007 wrote: "The word "Camelot" was not conceived as a metaphor for the Kennedy adminisration until then." Mmmm. Don't know about that one. It ties in with the very popular Broadway production of "Camelot" at the time, and just as the age of Camelot was too good to last in the play, so was the hope for the "age of Kennedy" administration, but I think the parallel had already been written about before the assassination. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot"In American contexts, the phrase "Camelot" refers to the presidency of John F. Kennedy, as his term was said to have potential and promise for the future, and the period was symbolic of hope for many in the world, who were inspired by Kennedy's speeches, vision and political policies. The period was ended by Kennedy's November 22, 1963, assassination, which is often compared to the fall of King Arthur. The lines "Don't let it be forgot, that once there was a spot, for one brief shining moment, that was known as Camelot," from the musical Camelot, were quoted by his widow Jacqueline as being from his favorite song in the score. "There'll be great Presidents again," she added, "but there'll never be another Camelot again … it will never be that way again." (The CIA/Bush/ NWO goons were involved in the JFK assassination. She knew.) |
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Post by 65if2007 on Jan 12, 2008 18:45:09 GMT -5
65if2007 wrote: "The word "Camelot" was not conceived as a metaphor for the Kennedy adminisration until then." Mmmm. Don't know about that one. It ties in with the very popular Broadway production of "Camelot" at the time, and just as the age of Camelot was too good to last in the play, so was the hope for the "age of Kennedy" administration, but I think the parallel had already been written about before the assassination. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot"In American contexts, the phrase "Camelot" refers to the presidency of John F. Kennedy, as his term was said to have potential and promise for the future, and the period was symbolic of hope for many in the world, who were inspired by Kennedy's speeches, vision and political policies. The period was ended by Kennedy's November 22, 1963, assassination, which is often compared to the fall of King Arthur. The lines "Don't let it be forgot, that once there was a spot, for one brief shining moment, that was known as Camelot," from the musical Camelot, were quoted by his widow Jacqueline as being from his favorite song in the score. "There'll be great Presidents again," she added, "but there'll never be another Camelot again … it will never be that way again." (The CIA/Bush/ NWO goons were involved in the JFK assassination. She knew.) America may have suffered trauma from the assassination, but it did not lose a great or even a good president when it lost JFK -- though I suppose that the grieving widow might have seen things differently. While there was a "mystique" surrounding the Kennedy presidency which gave off a false sense of promise, I don't think that it's possible to find a single pre-assassination "Camelot" metaphor, even if the musical was playing at the same time. I think that biographers are pretty much agreed that this was entirely Jackie's conception in the aftermath of the assassination. Not everyone was fooled by this false air of promise, by the way. One European political cartoonist once drew a cartoon which featured a radiant and impressive-looking machine called "The Kennedy Machine". All sorts of icons referring to issues of the day are glowing from the machine: Cuba, gold, civil rights, Vietnam, taxes, etc. etc. It's a Rube Goldberg-like contraption with all sorts of wheels and gears spinning and humming marvelously. Two onlookers are standing by and observing the machine. One of them turns to the other and says, "It looks magnificent. What does it do?" The "CIA/Bush/NWO goons", whoever exactly they are (assuming that they even exist at all), couldn't organize a trip to the bathroom, let alone a well-planned methodical assassination let alone one that succeeded without consequences to the plotters. They couldn't kill Castro in a lifetime of trying. And apart from an interest in the arts, Jackie was a mental midget who was not even aware that there was a Cold War going on and who couldn't FIND her way to the bathroom. She couldn't "know" anything. |
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