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Post by revolver on May 24, 2004 17:58:33 GMT -5
Ya... I don't see the same guy either Revolver. A good plastic surgery job, sure... I suppose so, but nothing else is right! But I guaranty I could post those 2 pics on any Beatles forum out there & get slammed by everybody there for even suggesting that those are pics of 2 different people. People just see what they wanna see I guess. That's why I think the photo fades/overlays have some value vs. the side-by-side comparisons. They demonstrate how despite the apparant similarities, the skeletal features of P/Faul just don't line up when accurate photos are used. That's what originally convince me. |
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Post by DarkHorse on May 24, 2004 18:39:31 GMT -5
That's why I think the photo fades/overlays have some value vs. the side-by-side comparisons. They demonstrate how despite the apparant similarities, the skeletal features of P/Faul just don't line up when accurate photos are used. That's what originally convince me. (The pictures look like two different people to me and that is a great comparison to see those differences.) I couldn't agree more with you Revolver in the above statement. The photo fades are what convinced me in the beginning also. Then I spent the next several months doing research: looking at pictures, looking at videos, listening to songs over and over and I concluded Paul did die and was replaced by a look-a-like in late 1966. It was obvious. |
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Post by revolver on May 24, 2004 20:45:31 GMT -5
(The pictures look like two different people to me and that is a great comparison to see those differences.) I couldn't agree more with you Revolver in the above statement. The photo fades are what convinced me in the beginning also. Then I spent the next several months doing research: looking at pictures, looking at videos, listening to songs over and over and I concluded Paul did die and was replaced by a look-a-like in late 1966. It was obvious. The above photos are good for showing the lack of resemblance IMO, but not so good for a cross-fade. That's because Faul has his head tilted back farther than Paul (observe the nostrils) giving Faul the illusion of a rounder head than he really had. |
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Post by DarkHorse on May 25, 2004 8:14:07 GMT -5
The above photos are good for showing the lack of resemblance IMO, but not so good for a cross-fade. That's because Faul has his head tilted back farther than Paul (observe the nostrils) giving Faul the illusion of a rounder head than he really had. Yes because for the fades to work the angle has to be the same along with the facial expression. |
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Post by Goldfinger on May 25, 2004 9:01:39 GMT -5
Yes, I see the same guy. The facial expression is different which makes the nose look different, but other than that--same.
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Post by DarkHorse on May 25, 2004 9:17:30 GMT -5
If there was a way to include the body with those two pics that would be great. I believe the pic of Paul is a closer shot than the one of Faul.
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Post by FlamingPie on May 25, 2004 20:59:42 GMT -5
 ^Pretty much kills the eye color theory. |
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Post by DarkHorse on May 26, 2004 7:58:38 GMT -5
^Pretty much kills the eye color theory. Ever heard of color contact lenses? Or photo touching? |
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Post by FlamingPie on May 26, 2004 13:42:20 GMT -5
Ever heard of color contact lenses? Or photo touching? Photo touching? If one of these photos was doctored, than why are they being compared here? Aren't they both vintage? And if any contact lenses were ever worn, than what's the use of comparing eye color if we don't know if he's wearing them? |
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Post by DarkHorse on May 26, 2004 13:57:13 GMT -5
Photo touching? If one of these photos was doctored, than why are they being compared here? Aren't they both vintage? And if any contact lenses were ever worn, than what's the use of comparing eye color if we don't know if he's wearing them? A) Because many of us PID's are comfortable with the notion that many of the Faul pics were doctored in some way to look like Paul. B) Because in some of the pics of Faul the eyes look green. And in the early pics of Paul they always look the same color, brown. |
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Post by jonna on May 26, 2004 14:28:35 GMT -5
^Pretty much kills the eye color theory. can you explain how it kills the theory?... its obvious that both of those pictures were taken with different lighting so how can you compare them.. unless your saying that its the same kind of lighting then you have a whole new set of problems with the skin tone..  |
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Post by SimMHoward on May 26, 2004 15:13:38 GMT -5
the puppy dog eyes were a big part of Pauls appeal, it was part of his "cute one" appearance, so its possible that the people in charge made his eyes like that on the old album covers to keep up that "cute one" appearance, if they can do it to Faul they can do it to Paul, right?
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Post by DarkHorse on May 26, 2004 15:42:08 GMT -5
the puppy dog eyes were a big part of Pauls appeal, it was part of his "cute one" appearance, so its possible that the people in charge made his eyes like that on the old album covers to keep up that "cute one" appearance, if they can do it to Faul they can do it to Paul, right? That doesn't explain why Paul still had puppy dog eyes in all of the VIDEOS he was featured in. |
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Post by SimMHoward on May 26, 2004 16:09:42 GMT -5
you mean the one or two in color? Thats lighting changes for hazel eyed people, magical mystery tour had no studio lighting or anything of the sort, so his eyes could be w/e color the sun would make them, and what about the videos with "Fauls" eyes being dark brown?
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Post by DarkHorse on May 26, 2004 16:16:33 GMT -5
you mean the one or two in color? Thats lighting changes for hazel eyed people, magical mystery tour had no studio lighting or anything of the sort, so his eyes could be w/e color the sun would make them, and what about the videos with "Fauls" eyes being dark brown? I was referring to the shape of Paul's eyes. |
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Post by SimMHoward on May 26, 2004 16:24:25 GMT -5
ah I misunderstood, I thought you meant the deep brown, well, as for the shape, I've posted another pic in here where I took Pauls eye, drew around it, and transferred it to a pic of Faul, it matched perfectly, so the eyes are the same shape
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Post by revolver on May 26, 2004 20:10:58 GMT -5
ah I misunderstood, I thought you meant the deep brown, well, as for the shape, I've posted another pic in here where I took Pauls eye, drew around it, and transferred it to a pic of Faul, it matched perfectly, so the eyes are the same shape I also posted some photos where I put Faul's eyes on Paul and visa versa. They didn't look right to me. |
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Post by DarkHorse on May 27, 2004 8:21:07 GMT -5
ah I misunderstood, I thought you meant the deep brown, well, as for the shape, I've posted another pic in here where I took Pauls eye, drew around it, and transferred it to a pic of Faul, it matched perfectly, so the eyes are the same shape They both are shaped SIMILARLY but are not exact imo.  |
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Post by revolver on Jun 5, 2004 21:37:35 GMT -5
They both are shaped SIMILARLY but are not exact imo. Yes, we're not saying Faul didn't resemble Paul in most details that could be fixed with surgery. It's the sum of the parts that don't add up to a perfect match. The facial proportions can't be changed because they are controlled by the shape of the skull. |
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Post by Doc on Jun 5, 2004 23:28:50 GMT -5
Plus, underlying muscle layers effect the fleshy parts of the face.
as in expression, dimpling, tautness, naso-labial folds, etc.
We aren't made of granite, where simply chiseling away can replicate perfectly a face. The moving parts, the muscle, ligaments, tendons, etc. effect the surface of the face as much as the bony parts.
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Post by Frightwolf on Aug 8, 2004 14:22:29 GMT -5
Blur your eyes. Who does this look like?  gj FP. That looks a hell of a lot like JPM to me. |
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Post by Frightwolf on Aug 8, 2004 14:25:33 GMT -5
B) Because in some of the pics of Faul the eyes look green. And in the early pics of Paul they always look the same color, brown. Bullcrap:   |
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Post by DarkHorse on Aug 8, 2004 14:59:57 GMT -5
Those look brown to me.
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Post by Frightwolf on Aug 8, 2004 15:02:27 GMT -5
Looks like someone here WANTS Paul to be dead. Top one's a definite green. The bottom is hazelish. Don't lie to support your case. Stop WANTING to see brown. Just stop, LOOK at it, and SEE WHAT'S THERE. Everyone at M4E sees green on the top one. WHY CAN'T YOU???  |
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Post by DarkHorse on Aug 8, 2004 15:04:49 GMT -5
Looks like someone here WANTS Paul to be dead. Top one's a definite green. The bottom is hazelish. Don't lie to support your case. Stop WANTING to see brown. Just stop, LOOK at it, and SEE WHAT'S THERE. Everyone at M4E sees green on the top one. WHY CAN'T YOU??? Look at the tint in Paul's hair in the above photograph. Same tint reflected in his eyes.  Are you gonna tell me Paul's hair is green now? ;D The bottom ones look brown to me. Not light enough to be hazel. |
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