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Post by FlamingPie on May 22, 2004 0:30:40 GMT -5
Blur your eyes. Who does this look like?
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Post by Doc on May 22, 2004 1:25:03 GMT -5
Paul from the strawberry fields video comes to mind; the mouth and lips and chin though, was there a moustache? What is happening in the mandibular area? HAve you got the bottome part of his face set for "Serraut?" Is that cosmetic stippelling? Is this thru a reddish filter or did we do an orange henna rinse? Is he sleepy here?
How long do I have to blur my eyes? Its hard to typekopamjgd mfbsmthzcsmvtjbblb[kponghh mj ..........I hear the theme music of "Dark Voyager".................c;lfiyspe6ajkefocvpgmr everything is foggy
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Post by FlamingPie on May 22, 2004 1:32:13 GMT -5
It's "Faul" from the Strawberry Fields video. I poorly tried to doctor out the moustache, that's why I wanted you to blur your eyes, so it's hard to see that there was one in the first place.
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Post by Doc on May 22, 2004 1:43:04 GMT -5
As thought.
Yet, I am waxing confused.
Photos are all becoming indistinguishable. Bill/Faul/Paul are merging together. Why is this so?
My apartment must not have beneficial Feng Shuei. Maybe it is time to relocate all the furniture.
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Post by FlamingPie on May 22, 2004 1:55:32 GMT -5
I think our minds are playing tricks on us.
If you say "hey that's definatly Faul, look at his long head", than I'm going to see what you see. I'llIf I say, look at how much he looks like Paul, than the details of Faul start to disappear, and you become more aware of what he has in common with Paul. That's why this forum works so well. On 60IF, everyone sees everything one way, and one way only.
The problem with this world is that everyone sees everything through thier own eyes.
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Post by Doc on May 22, 2004 2:18:17 GMT -5
My heart says one thing. It believes in a switch.
My mind (what's left of it) says a mixture of conflicting things. I reason there might have been a switch; then it seems implausible, impossible, illogical. One day it makes sense, next week it makes no sense. One day it is a amazing but unaccepted piece of history; the next week it is an absurdist's bit of folklore.
My eyes have stopped seeing. Right now, everybody looks like Jim Nabors to me.
My ears tend to follow my heart. McCartney has too many voices to be one person, it sounds like. But, then, so does Frank Gorshin. And he is just one person.
Sleep has arrived. I want to dream about Country Western music. Cross your fingers.
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Post by JoJo on May 22, 2004 3:52:49 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but one look at those eyes and I knew who it was, it wasn't even a challenge. And I'm talking about the expression, those don't have any sparkle behind them, they look like they belong to not a real nice person. Not scientific I know, and can you see that in a photo? Who knows..
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Post by DarkHorse on May 22, 2004 9:46:51 GMT -5
I think our minds are playing tricks on us. If you say "hey that's definatly Faul, look at his long head", than I'm going to see what you see. I'llIf I say, look at how much he looks like Paul, than the details of Faul start to disappear, and you become more aware of what he has in common with Paul. That's why this forum works so well. On 60IF, everyone sees everything one way, and one way only. The problem with this world is that everyone sees everything through thier own eyes. The more your mind becomes clear the more you see two different people. Your theory is correct somewhat but works more with people who believe Paul pre-1967 is the same man as Paul post-1967. There is much more of incentive to believe Faul is Paul than Faul is not Paul therefore I agree with your theory and I say it is more the case with those that believe JPM is still around.
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Post by FlamingPie on May 22, 2004 11:52:32 GMT -5
^ I meant that in general. It's my philosophy. If we started seeing things the way other people see it, there would be so much more understanding in the world. But we don't, and that's why there are wars.
But about the picture, where's the tall head? The hazel eyes? The V chin?
Sorry, I see Paul.
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Post by DarkHorse on May 22, 2004 13:45:34 GMT -5
But about the picture, where's the tall head? The hazel eyes? The V chin? Sorry, I see Paul. I see the hazel eyes. The pic is cut off at the head but it looks long to me.
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Post by FlamingPie on May 22, 2004 14:45:03 GMT -5
*sigh* Okay, Faul has a tall head. But not any taller that Paul's. I don't know if you do, but I consider this a tall head:
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Post by SimMHoward on May 22, 2004 16:35:17 GMT -5
heres my view on the pics, as JPM gets less and less healthy according to the "official" story, he looks more and more like Faul, ex. Sgt Peppers, no food, lives off of speed, then after he loses the drugs, he gets more healthy and around LIB we see JPM again, you say the plastic surgery is finally working around then, but lo and behold, he loses the look again when the Beatles break up, around then he claims he stayed in bed all the time and nearly had a nervous breakdown. Now my thoughts, I think that "Faul" is JPM when he is physically or emotionally sick, I know when I feel down, I lose weight, as I am a bit overweight, it doesn't hurt me too badly and I pick back up eventually, and when that happens I stop losing weight, and if I lost it to fast, my body builds it back up so that theres not a health problem, its very much possible that this happens to Paul, and if it does, would explain why he changes appearence so much (try looking at pics of people before and after they lose alot of weight due to sickness)
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Post by SimMHoward on May 22, 2004 17:11:58 GMT -5
and heres a pic, I thought that instead of doing an editing job deleting parts and replacing them, I'd just draw in on an earlier pic, this is Paul from pre-Beatlemania, the exact date escapes me but its from one of the Hamburg trips, I drew in the 'stach:
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Post by xpt626 on May 22, 2004 17:20:10 GMT -5
....(try looking at pics of people before and after they lose alot of weight due to sickness) I can just look in my mirror for that one (I'm totally serious).... and to me, that's not the problem with the "Pauls".
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Post by SimMHoward on May 22, 2004 17:23:42 GMT -5
I can too, my face has gone from round to square, much like Pauls, and looking back at old pics of me, I can see that my eyes have changed as well, a lot of lost innocence, I really don't look the same
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Post by DarkHorse on May 22, 2004 17:46:25 GMT -5
I can too, my face has gone from round to square, much like Pauls, and looking back at old pics of me, I can see that my eyes have changed as well, a lot of lost innocence, I really don't look the same Yes but did this happen within a year?
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Post by JoJo on May 22, 2004 17:50:51 GMT -5
Yes but did this happen within a year? More like 3 months, if you take a look at the Melody Maker pic and compare it to his trip to Africa...
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Post by SimMHoward on May 22, 2004 17:53:52 GMT -5
my changes have been since last october, and they've been dramatic, lost 50 pounds, dead eyes, always tired, pale yellowish skin, hair lost its luster too...
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Post by xpt626 on May 22, 2004 17:53:53 GMT -5
good point, fellas....my most drastic changes were over the course of a year, and they were gradual...the process could be seen. Paul was never out of tthe public eye long enough for a drastic change to occur without signs of it being visible, especially in hindsight.
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Post by SimMHoward on May 22, 2004 18:01:47 GMT -5
my face changed completely in the course of three months, it wasn't pretty, and I was recently on the rebound when it came back, so I dunno whats gonna happen next, but the changes aren't always gradual, and they're often unexpected, specifically I remember waking up in the morning and looking at myself in the mirror trying to figure out what was different, only to see that my skin was sickly looking, I check pics taken at a party over the weekend, and sure enough, 5 days later I was zombie like, as opposed to my happy former self
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Post by revolver on May 22, 2004 18:03:40 GMT -5
heres my view on the pics, as JPM gets less and less healthy according to the "official" story, he looks more and more like Faul, ex. Sgt Peppers, no food, lives off of speed, then after he loses the drugs, he gets more healthy and around LIB we see JPM again, you say the plastic surgery is finally working around then, but lo and behold, he loses the look again when the Beatles break up, around then he claims he stayed in bed all the time and nearly had a nervous breakdown. Now my thoughts, I think that "Faul" is JPM when he is physically or emotionally sick, I know when I feel down, I lose weight, as I am a bit overweight, it doesn't hurt me too badly and I pick back up eventually, and when that happens I stop losing weight, and if I lost it to fast, my body builds it back up so that theres not a health problem, its very much possible that this happens to Paul, and if it does, would explain why he changes appearence so much (try looking at pics of people before and after they lose alot of weight due to sickness) That theory might hold water if P/Faul's facial proportions and speaking voice had stayed the same over the years. But after Sep. '66 they changed and never went back to his earlier characteristics. Faul's speaking voice today matches his early '67 voice, but not Paul's Aug '66 voice. Then there's the height increase relative to Paul's father which has been well documented. Can't blame that on a change in weight. Uberkinder showed many examples of celebrity photos that were years apart with changes in weight, yet the skeletal proportions remained the same. P/Faul's did not over a much smaller time period.
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Post by DarkHorse on May 22, 2004 18:05:59 GMT -5
my face changed completely in the course of three months, it wasn't pretty, and I was recently on the rebound when it came back, so I dunno whats gonna happen next, but the changes aren't always gradual, and they're often unexpected, specifically I remember waking up in the morning and looking at myself in the mirror trying to figure out what was different, only to see that my skin was sickly looking, I check pics taken at a party over the weekend, and sure enough, 5 days later I was zombie like, as opposed to my happy former self How did this all happen?
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Post by SimMHoward on May 22, 2004 18:09:21 GMT -5
mental disease, I lost my will to live really, it took me from October through Christmas to recover, its really why I spent so much time on PID, I needed to distract myself, I then got pneumonia, and had trouble with that, when I finally recovered around February, I slowing began to go back to routine, and lost focus on PID, focusing more on college and the job, I came down with the whole depressed-life needs to end thing again this month, but I knew what to do this time and I pulled out without incident, but I still lost alot of weight and it changed my attitude and body completely
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Post by JoJo on May 22, 2004 18:15:01 GMT -5
Seriously Within, I hope you are doing OK. That's a lot to go through and I really sympathise, truely! I hope you have a availed yourself of all the help you can get whatever the need may be..
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Post by SimMHoward on May 22, 2004 18:17:44 GMT -5
I have and I'm much better, thank you so much for your kind words, but I think that it was just stress of this year, and I'll only improve now that I've got the help I need, I actually am looking better, my face is filling out, the skin still looks bad, but I am losing that look of someone who lost a lot of weight in a short period of time, and it helps to look in the mirror and see improvements, anyway, I hope this story helps to relate how changes can happen in short periods of time, not saying it did, but it could have
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