PID/PWR songs

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Aug 26, 2008 17:38:34 GMT -5 @paulumbo said:

I starting looking at songs by Cream and I found an interesting song that was the flip side of the single that had BADGE (the Paul-Faul song that George Harrison co-wrote with Eric Clapton) on it. The song's called WHAT A BRINGDOWN:

Dainties in a jam-jar, a parson's colour in the sky. [PLENTY OF JAM JARS by the Ravellers?]
Water in a fountain doesn't get me very high.
Moby Dick and Albert making out with Captain Bligh.
So you know what you know in your head. ["Even though you know what you know. . ." SHE SAID SHE SAID]
Will you, won't you, do you, don't you know when a head's dead?
What a bringdown!

Winter leader Lou is growin' 'amsteads in the North.
Betty B's been wearin' daisies since the twenty-fourth.
Wears a gunner when there's one more coming forth.
And you know what you know in your head.
Will you, won't you do you, don't you wanna go to bed?
What a bringdown!

There's a tea-leaf about in the family,
Full of nothin' their fairy tale.
There's a tea-leaf a-floatin' now for Rosalie,
They'll believe in ding-dong bell.

Take a butchers at the dodginesses of old Bill [Campbell?]
Aristotle's orchestra are living on the pill.
One of them gets very very prickly when he's ill.
And you know what you know in your head.
Will you, won't you, do you, don't you wanna make more bread?
What a bringdown!

Listen to this on youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6FFnwp/E7c

At 0:51-0:52 and 1:11-1:12, it sounds very much like John Lennon on GLASS ONION.

Wow, Paulumbo!

I'd never heard this before, but it pretty much HAS to be about the switch. I mean, it's barely even veiled.

BTW, your link didn't work.

This one will:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6FFnwplE7c

Oh, and I also noticed that this was your 111th post, and that it contained a reference to 1:11.

I see 11, 1:11, and 11:11 EVERYWHERE. Been happening for about three years.

Anybody else?

[B]

Yes, all the time, as well as 911 and 12:34.
Lots of Cream material to consider apparently. In "Strange Brew" there's this verse:

On a boat in the middle of a raging sea,
She would make a scene
for it all to be Ignored.
And wouldnt you be bored?
Strange brew -- kill whats inside of you.

I immediately think of the "stormy sea" type repetitions at the end of "I Want You/She's So Heavy".

"ufo-y looking thing" for Iameye:

[iameye]

Aug 26, 2008 20:51:18 GMT -5 B said:

Yes, all the time, as well as 911 and 12:34.
Lots of Cream material to consider apparently. In "Strange Brew" there's this verse:

On a boat in the middle of a raging sea,
She would make a scene
for it all to be Ignored.
And wouldn't you be bored?
Strange brew -- kill whats inside of you.

I immediately think of the "stormy sea" type repetitions at the end of "I Want You/She's So Heavy".

"ufo-y looking thing" for Iameye:

Strange brew -- kill whats inside of you.

I immediately think of the "stormy sea" type repetitions at the end of "I Want You/She's So Heavy".


duh! jeeze B ? read it!


and this? well this looks like.....well, I'm a lady and that ain't no UFO senator!

[thisone]

It's all Rhyming Slang!

Jam Jar = Car

'Amsteads = Hamstead Heath = Teeth!

Daisies = Boots (Daisy Roots)

Tea-Leaf = Thief.

Take a butchers = Take a look (Butchers Hook)

Now the weirdest one is Aristotle
Aristotle is rhyming slang for Bottle which is rhyming slang for Ass or Arse (Bottle and Glass), which normally gets shortened to Aris which almost takes us back to the original word Arse.

A Daisy up the Aris! We can work it out!

Dainties in a car, a roses's colour in the sky.
Water in a fountain doesn't get me very high.
Moby Dick and Albert making out with Captain Bligh.
So you know what you know in your head.

Will you, won't you, do you, don't you know when a head's dead?
What a bringdown!

Winter leader Lou is growin' teeth in the North.
Betty B's been wearin' boots since the twenty-fourth.
Wears a gunner when there's one more coming forth.
And you know what you know in your head.
Will you, won't you do you, don't you wanna go to bed?
What a bringdown!

There's a thief about in the family,
Full of nothin' their fairy tale.
There's a thief a-floatin' now for Rosalie,
They'll believe in hell.

Take a look at the dodginesses of old Bill [Campbell?]
Ass's orchestra are living on the pill.
One of them gets very very prickly when he's ill.
And you know what you know in your head.
Will you, won't you, do you, don't you wanna make more bread?
What a bringdown!

[B]

Losing My Religion
(R.E.M.)

hear it/see it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQeSIkw3X0

Ooh, Life is bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to -
The distance in your eyes
Oh no I've said too much, I set it up.

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep a wiev
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

Every whisper
Of every waking hour I'm
Choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt lost and blinded fool,
fool
Oh no I've said too much, I set it up

Consider this, consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip, it brought me
to my knees, failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing aground
Now I've said too much

I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
That was just a dream

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep a view
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no I've said too much
I hadn't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
To Try, Cry, Fly, Try
That was just a dream
Just a dream
Just a dream, dream

---------------------------------

The End Of The World As We Know It
And I Feel Fine (She's in love with me...)
(R.E.M.)

See it/hear it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqroT1FZ5Y

That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and
Snakes, an aeroplane and Lenny Bruce is not afraid
Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn - world
Serves its own needs, dummy serve your own needs. Feed
It off an aux speak, grunt, no, strength, ladder
Start to clatter with fear fight down height. Wire
In a fire, representing seven games, a government
For hire and a combat site. Left of west and coming in
A hurry with the furies breathing down your neck. Team
By team reporters baffled, trumped, tethered cropped
Look at that low playing! Fine, then. Uh oh,
Overflow, population, common food, but it'll do. Save
Yourself, serve yourself. World serves its own needs,
Listen to your heart bleed dummy with the rapture and
The revered and the right, right. You vitriolic,
Patriotic, slam, fight, bright light, feeling pretty
Psyched

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign Towers. (Song is pre-911.)
Slash and burn, return, listen to yourself
Churn. Locking in, uniforming, book burning, blood
Letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate
Light a candle, light a votive. Step down, step down
Watch your heel crush, crushed, uh-oh, this means no
Fear cavalier. Renegade steer clear! A tournament,
Tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions,
Offer me alternatives and I decline

(chorus)
It's the end of the world as we know it (it's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it (it's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (it's time I had some time alone)

The other night I dreamt of knives, continental drift divide
Mountains sit in a line, Leonard Bernstein
Leonid Brezhnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs
Birthday party, cheescake, jellybean, boom you
Symbiotic patriotic slam book neck
Right? Right!

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine

I feel fine

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Sept 2, 2008 10:58:38 GMT -5 B said:

Losing My Religion
(R.E.M.)

hear it/see it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQeSIkw3X0

Ooh, Life is bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to -
The distance in your eyes
Oh no I've said too much, I set it up.

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep a wiev
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

Every whisper
Of every waking hour I'm
Choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt lost and blinded fool,
fool
Oh no I've said too much, I set it up

Consider this, consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip, it brought me
to my knees, failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing aground
Now I've said too much

I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
That was just a dream

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep a view
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no I've said too much
I hadn't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
To Try, Cry, Fly, Try
That was just a dream
Just a dream
Just a dream, dream

---------------------------------

The End Of The World As We Know It
And I Feel Fine (She's in love with me...)
(R.E.M.)

See it/hear it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqroT1FZ5Y

That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and
Snakes, an aeroplane and Lenny Bruce is not afraid
Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn - world
Serves its own needs, dummy serve your own needs. Feed
It off an aux speak, grunt, no, strength, ladder
Start to clatter with fear fight down height. Wire
In a fire, representing seven games, a government
For hire and a combat site. Left of west and coming in
A hurry with the furies breathing down your neck. Team
By team reporters baffled, trumped, tethered cropped
Look at that low playing! Fine, then. Uh oh,
Overflow, population, common food, but it'll do. Save
Yourself, serve yourself. World serves its own needs,
Listen to your heart bleed dummy with the rapture and
The revered and the right, right. You vitriolic,
Patriotic, slam, fight, bright light, feeling pretty
Psyched

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign Towers.
Slash and burn, return, listen to yourself
Churn. Locking in, uniforming, book burning, blood
Letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate
Light a candle, light a votive. Step down, step down
Watch your heel crush, crushed, uh-oh, this means no
Fear cavalier. Renegade steer clear! A tournament,
Tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions,
Offer me alternatives and I decline

(chorus)
It's the end of the world as we know it (it's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it (it's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (it's time I had some time alone)

The other night I dreamt of knives, continental drift divide
Mountains sit in a line, Leonard Bernstein
Leonid Brezhnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs
Birthday party, cheescake, jellybean, boom you
Symbiotic patriotic slam book neck
Right? Right!

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine

I feel fine

Not sure I'm with you on these, B, but...

You Symbiotic (self-explanatory) patriotic (SIR Paul) slam book neck
Right? Right!

[B]

China Doll
(Grateful Deaf) (Mis-typed, but I like it! ;D )

hear it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3ll_cCkqg

A pistol shot, at five o'clock, the bells of heaven ring,
tell me what you done it for, No I won't tell you a thing.
Yesterday I begged you before I hit the ground,
all I leave behind me is only what I found.

If you can abide it, let the hurdy-gurdy play,
stranger ones have come by here before they flew away.
I will not condemn you nor yet would I deny,
I would ask the same of you, but failing, will not die.

Take up your china doll, take up your china doll,
it's only fractured and just a little nervous from the fall.
La-la-la-la-la-la-la.

Anything by the Grateful Dead is suspect, imo. Wonder if it was on a Wednesday.

[paulumbo]

More info on the Harrison/Clapton song, BADGE. I was looking at the Random Notes article of the 4/5/69 ROLLING STONE about BADGE. Harrison played rhythm guitar on it (under the pseudonym L'Angelo Misterioso.) Also, a NEW MUSICAL EXPRESS reporter interviewed Cream member Jack Bruce and he said: "We messed around with it a bit in the studio, speeded up the voices and played it backwards. The lyrics are very interesting if you can fathom them out. They are very dark and devious with hidden meanings but you'd have to ask Eric about that." It might be interesting to compare the album version with a live version, because when George Martin speeded up voices, he was trying to make Faul sound like Paul. Also, if someone can play the album cut backwards, there might be backmasking. One more note on the song. In Harrison's autobiography, I ME MINE, he said of Clapton: "It's funny, now he actually sings in concert at the end of the song 'Where is my badge?'" !

[Girl]

Don't have time today, but the album "Marshmallow Pie" by Spookie Daly Pride seems to have some subtle references in several of their songs... where's EB when you need him? lol

I'd almost be willing to bet he has it in his collection.

I'll have to get back to that later.

[B]

OK, normally this song wouldn't make the cut, but there are some strange things about it.
Why would someone go to Liverpool, and "do nothing all the days of my life"?
Is this a clue that somebody did exactly that? (Remember the David Frost interview where
Paul said he'd like to retire.)
And then there's Leonard Nimoy as the chauffeur.
Another link to "Star Trek"! Holy Charlie Brill, Batman!

So for what it's worth:

The Bangles - Going Down To Liverpool
"According to Wikipedia, Leonard Nimoy actually directed this video as well as making the cameo.
It also said his son Adam Nimoy was a friend of Susanna Hoffs from college."
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWC2-MFwWr8&fmt=6


Going Down To Liverpool
(K. Rew)

Hey now
Where you going with that load of nothing in your hand?
I said, "hey now -
All through this green and pleasant land".

I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
All the days of my life
All the days of my life

Hey there
Where you going with that UB40 in your hand *
I said, hey there.
All through this green and pleasant land

I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
All the days of my life
All the days of my life.

Hey now
Where you going with that UB40 in your hand
I said hey now
All through this green and pleasant land

I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I'm going down to Liverpool to do nothing
All the days of my life
All the days of my life

Possibly a jail sentence for 'Life'?

* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UB40

"...The [UB40] band members began as friends who knew each other from various colleges and schools across Birmingham. The name "UB40" was selected in reference to a paper form issued by the UK government's Department of Health and Social Security (DHSS) at the time of the band's formation for claiming unemployment benefit. The designation UB40 stood for Unemployment Benefit, Form 40."

--------------------------------------------------

Still, the line is similar to the line in "Hey Joe" that asks:
"Where are you going with that gun in your hand?",
and the song structure is similar as well.

Hey Joe
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2qRKy36dL4

So are we to pick up on the implicit message: Happiness was a warm gun?

[Girl]

Very interesting, B... I came across something this morning while researching a company stamp for an antique piece (or not) recently acquired from a thrift store...

Anyhow, it led me to a site about the evolution of the different eras of jewelery...

"Jet" is a type of onyx that was commonly used in MOURNING jewelery in the 19th century. I don't think I ever realized there was such a thing.

Well, here's a link to various individuals' take on the song: www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=699

Labrador puppy? I don't think so.

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Oct 16, 2008 9:10:54 GMT -5 Girl said:

Very interesting, B... I came across something this morning while researching a company stamp for an antique piece (or not) recently acquired from a thrift store...

Anyhow, it led me to a site about the evolution of the different eras of jewelery...

"Jet" is a type of onyx that was commonly used in MOURNING jewelery in the 19th century. I don't think I ever realized there was such a thing.

Well, here's a link to various individuals' take on the song: www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=699

Labrador puppy? I don't think so.

Yup. This is where the term JET BLACK comes from, Girl, but I never thought about it like that in terms of the song.

Hmmm.

Here are some tidbits about jet:

MISCELLANY:

Tends to feel warm; becomes electrically charged when rubbed with cloth and thus will pick up such things as small bits of paper; flammable, giving an odor like that of burning coal.

OTHER NAMES:

Black amber - name given in the Middle Ages, apparently because of its becoming electircally charged like amber was then known to react.

"Witches amber" - name given to "necklaces of alternating Amber and Jet . . . [worn by] Wiccan High Priesteses (White Witches)" -- (www.luckygemstones.com/jet-jewelry-black mourning-gem.htm)

USES: For the most part in mourning jewelry -- e.g., brooches, pendants and beads, commonly faceted; for statuettes, carvings and souvenirs; as the base material for pietra dura; and rarely for such things as carved plaques and rather small vessels of several genre

NOTEWORTHY LOCALITIES: Near the coast in the vicinity of Whitby, Yorkshire, England; Languedoc, France; Oviedo (formerly Asturias), Oviedo Province, Spain; El Paso County, Colorado.

REMARKS: The term jet is usually indicated to be from Middle English after Anglo-Norman geet, from the Latin gagates, from Greek gagates, for Gagas, a town of Lycia (an ancient region/Roman province on the Aegean Sea, southwest of Asia Minor).

Incidentally, Lycia is very close to several GREEK ISLANDS, including LESBOS.



During the 1500s, many Rosary beads were made from jet, which was frequently dubbed "black Amber."

More:

www.cst.cmich.edu/users/dietr1rv/jet.htm

And this:

Jet, known also as “gagate”, is a carbon fossil, compact and
very light. Jet, known also as “gagate”, is a carbon fossil,
compact and very light. It is a lustrous black stone which has a
hardness of 2.5-4 (quite soft) and a specific gravity of 1.30-1.35.
This stone was named after the city of Gages in ancient Lykia.
Another name of jet is “black amber”. Jet was known in ancient
Egypt, where it was used for making mirrors, in Greece and
Rome they used it for cutting amulets, bracelets and rings.

Even now people believe that jet has magical powers, it
protects from nightmares and helps to overcome one’s fears.

www.skylineminerals.com/Gagate.html

[Girl]

Thank you for that fine bit of well-rounded & multi-faceted research, PL... ;D

Interesting also, within the same link you provided, "The Pueblo Indians were known for burying Jet with their dead. A famous, exceptionally beautiful and well-made frog carved from Jet and inlaid with Turquoise eyes, was discovered in the Pueblo Bonito in 1896 by Mr. Pepper. It is believed these Indians thought Jet would protect them in the after-life."

[paulumbo]

I found a song that Paul(?) wrote with his brother in 1974, called NORTON (or variably, NORTON LEAVE IT):

Norton is a mummy's boy [it isn't stretching it to suggest "mummy" might be a dead mother]
Norton's very clever
Norton's very good at sport
In the nicer weather.

Norton is a pretty boy
Norton is a sissy
Norton's gorra lovely girl,
Now isn't that a pity?

Norton is a daddy's boy
Norton joined the army
He thought they'd make a man of him
He must be bloody barmy!

Truck on!

-"22433133 Private Norton reporting for duty, sir!"
-"A-Jolly Good, Norton, recommend a commission, Sergeant."
-"Sir! About Turn!
Left, Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left. . ."

Norton's still a pansy boy
Norton's still a pet.
And if he gave me half a chance,
I'd wring his bleedin' neck, oy!

I love you, Norton.
Right on.


DID Paul join the military?

[paulumbo]

And then there's CRACKERBOX PALACE. Watch the video at www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq7Zg-A5-Rw

The lyrics are: While you're a part of Crackerbox Palace,
Do what the others all do [at 1:56-2:05, they show a soldier]
Or face the fact that Crackerbox Palace
May have no other choice than to deport you [at 2:10-2:16, they show a
Bobby with a cross on his helmet and a soldier, and at 2:19, they show a
skeleton in front of a tombstone.]

BTW, Crackers is defined in the DICTIONARY OF THE UNDERWORLD [by Eric Partridge, 1949; 1961] as: ". . . men of all ages who have received head injuries, or such injuries to the cerebral column as to render them at times irresponsible . . . Also, those who have suicidal tendencies."

[B]

Paulumbo, the link doesn't work. Here's another: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSmN_dOhvhw

Here's a truly bizarre song from The Go Gos:

The Whole World Lost Its Head
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVcMwB4chTU

Pope's on L.S.D.
Muslim girls are getting down
In bikinis
Nazis selling tupperware
Door to door
Telepreachers mud-wrestling
On the dance floor

I read it in the paper
I see it on my TV
Has the whole world lost its head
(Is it just me)
Has the whole world lost its head
(Is it just me)
Has the whole world lost its head

You can buy tomatoes
That last 500 years
Claudia Schiffer's fiancee
Made her disappear (?)
Drag queens have the navy
Tossing in their beds
Mary ate her little lamb
And punk rock isn't dead

I read it in the paper
I see it on my TV
Has the whole world lost its head
(Is it just me)
Has the whole world lost its head
(Is it just me)
Has the whole world lost its head

I read it in the paper
I see it on my TV
Has the whole world lost its head
(Is it just me)
Has the whole world lost its head
(Is it just me)
Has the whole world lost its head
(Is it just me)
Has the whole world lost its head
Lost its head
Lost its head
Lost its head

The video is repulsive. I have to think an insider message to somebodies in the music industry.
A kind of "We know what you did" thing.
Total Information has made a big deal of Paul having been beheaded, in his opinion, as
part of a ritual sacrifice.
Also the reference to "Mary had a little lamb" in the song may be a wink to Faul's recording of it.

Paul McCartney and Wings- Mary had a little lamb
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaZ9s7S26qg

Also worth noting: the Go Gos album this song was on was called:Return to the Valley of The Go-Go's

clearly an allusion to the movie: "Valley of the Dolls" which apparently relates to "A Doll's House"
by Ibsen, which relates to the Beatles' White album, according to Total Information

and if that weren't enough....[/b]

Stuck In My Car
The Go Gos
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyYzEmGgRvg

Somewhere the sun is shining
Somewhere the moon is rising
I'm sitting here
Somewhere someone is laughing
Somewhere something is happening
I'm dying here
Let's go Let's go

Stuck in my car trying to get to you
Stuck in my car nothing I can do
Turn the radio up and scream along
Stuck in my car
stuck in my car

Slow motion disaster
Wish I could go faster
I'm standing still ("They are standing still" - Rev 9)
I know the world is spinning
But it never brings me any
Closer, closer to you
Let's go, let's go

Stuck in my car trying to get to you
Stuck in my car nothing I can do
Turn the radio up and scream along
Stuck in my car stuck in my car
Come on come on

Oooh get me out of here
Oooh I gotta go I gotta go
I gotta go

from the album "God Bless the Go Gos" which has many, shall we say, peculiar, titles

[ramone]

'Our lips are sealed' ?

[B]

I thought of that too. ;D

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEU5vXmE5mU

sing along with Hilary Duff! (especially Miss Vaggie! )
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YbFW3jIK_I

(Listen for the gun shot at 00:45. )

[B]

Uh...guys...Please watch this video:

Yes - Owner Of A[glow=Red,2,300]Lonely Heart[/glow]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELpmmeT69cE

lyrics: www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Owner-Of-A-Lonely-Heart-lyrics-Yes/5404DDB310B489B84825697300136748

"...After my own indecision
They confused me so
My love said never question your will at all
In the end you've got to go
Look before you leap
And don't you hesitate at all - no no
Owner of a lonely heart..."

"I'm gone! Maybe there's another way to be..."
Does anyone know if this is the original video for the song? It sure is remeniscent of the one
that Youknowmyname231 (I think) did with the girl saying "Wake Up!" in it.

Look at the story that plays out in the video. The person, being a VIP, is taken to be judged
ahead of many other "mere mortals", who stare as he passes by.
He is clearly mentally unfit in his fantasy of what will take place "if he is caught".
I have a sense of deja vu all over again with this one.
I'd love to know what you all think about this video. I'd venture it is part of the story of Paul.
Bird wings flapping at the end: "Free As A Bird"

And when you're done with that, consider this video of Helter Ske- oops! - I mean -

Roundabout by Yes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_vJ1W7uKw

or even:

Yes - I've Seen All Good People
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZVlo5zBQk

"captured for the Queen to use"

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Oct 28, 2008 20:31:10 GMT -5 B said:

Uh...guys...Please watch this video:

Yes - Owner Of A[glow=Red,2,300]Lonely Heart[/glow]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELpmmeT69cE

lyrics: www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Owner-Of-A-Lonely-Heart-lyrics-Yes/5404DDB310B489B84825697300136748

"...After my own indecision
They confused me so
My love said never question your will at all
In the end you've got to go
Look before you leap
And don't you hesitate at all - no no
Owner of a lonely heart..."

Does anyone know if this is the original video for the song? It sure is remeniscent of the one
that Youknowmyname231 (I think) did with the girl saying "Wake Up!" in it.

Look at the story that plays out in the video. The person, being a VIP, is taken to be judged
ahead of many other "mere mortals", who stare as he passes by.
He is clearly mentally unfit in his fantasy of what will take place "if he is caught".
I have a sense of deja vu all over again with this one.
I'd love to know what you all think about this video. I'd venture it represents the story of Paul.

I don't remember all of that "live stuff" in the beginning of the "Owner" video, B.

I remember it beginning at around the 2:13 mark, like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=goMsbyfPRZM

Incidentally, the drummer in that version of Yes was Alan White.

Yes, THAT Alan White:

Born in Pelton, County Durham, White began learning to play the piano at age six and after switching to drums, played publicly with a local band at 13. Later he worked with a number of bands during the late 1960s, notably the Alan Price Set, before being invited to join Ginger Baker's Airforce with Steve Winwood in 1968. The following year, 1969, White received a call from John Lennon (he thought it was a prankster) asking him to join the Plastic Ono Band for a show that became the hit album, Live Peace in Toronto. He also performed with Lennon on the legendary Imagine album and the single, "Instant Karma". When Lennon introduced White to fellow Beatle alumnus, George Harrison, he was asked to perform on the All Things Must Pass album, including the single, "My Sweet Lord".

[B]

It seems that they threw in more snake and spider scenes to fill in the space that had been
the 'live scenes' in the video I posted, (P)Denny. It is unfortunate, because the non-music scene
which ends with the words: "I'm gone! Maybe there's another way to be..." is missing as well.
It may have been removed because it would have been too transparent to insiders who
would recognize what this video was about.
Clearly (imo) it is a reference to Paul's decision to "bag production" and flee. ("Run Like Hell")
This corresponds to many other references to Paul being "on the run". I think the video I posted
is invaluable. Thank God that someone posted it at YouTube.

Thanks for pointing out the Alan White links too, P(D)enny La(i)ne . It all fits together, doesn't it.

[skyward]

Oct 28, 2008 20:50:00 GMT -5 P(D)enny La(i)ne said:

Oct 28, 2008 20:31:10 GMT -5 B said:

Uh...guys...Please watch this video:

Yes - Owner Of A[glow=Red,2,300]Lonely Heart[/glow]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELpmmeT69cE

lyrics: www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Owner-Of-A-Lonely-Heart-lyrics-Yes/5404DDB310B489B84825697300136748

"...After my own indecision
They confused me so
My love said never question your will at all
In the end you've got to go
Look before you leap
And don't you hesitate at all - no no
Owner of a lonely heart..."

Does anyone know if this is the original video for the song? It sure is remeniscent of the one
that Youknowmyname231 (I think) did with the girl saying "Wake Up!" in it.

Look at the story that plays out in the video. The person, being a VIP, is taken to be judged
ahead of many other "mere mortals", who stare as he passes by.
He is clearly mentally unfit in his fantasy of what will take place "if he is caught".
I have a sense of deja vu all over again with this one.
I'd love to know what you all think about this video. I'd venture it represents the story of Paul.

I don't remember all of that "live stuff" in the beginning of the "Owner" video, B.

The original uncut video featured the typical video entrance, with the band playing, and then they stopped midstream and segued into the main video where the guy is removed from the crowd 'midstream'.

The video was cut and edited for mainstream play on the video channels, and some scenes were removed, like the maggots to the face bit.

[B]

Given all the Humpty Dumpty/fall/coming down fast and... clues, I have to think this song may have
been inspired by whatever happened. An example of the "young dudes" telling the news, as it were:

Jump by Van Halen With Lyrics
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFPjGtxOdIo

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Oct 28, 2008 22:21:46 GMT -5 B said:

It seems that they threw in more snake and spider scenes to fill in the space that had been
the 'live scenes' in the video I posted, (P)Denny. It is unfortunate, because the non-music scene
which ends with the words: "I'm gone! Maybe there's another way to be..." is missing as well.
It may have been removed because it would have been too transparent to insiders who
would recognize what this video was about.
Clearly (imo) it is a reference to Paul's decision to "bag production" and flee. ("Run Like Hell")
This corresponds to many other references to Paul being "on the run". I think the video I posted
is invaluable. Thank God that someone posted it at YouTube.

Thanks for pointing out the Alan White links too, P(D)enny La(i)ne . It all fits together, doesn't it.

You may be on to something here, B.

Here's another song from the same album. It's one of those lyrics that can be taken at surface value as a song about the ending of a relationship, or one could note the Alan White connection, and dig a little deeper...

"CHANGES"

"I'm moving through some changes
Ill never be the same
Something you did touched me
There's no one else to blame

The love we had has fallen
The love we used to share
We've given up pretending
As if you didn't care

Change changing places
Root yourself to the ground
Capitalize on this good fortune
One word can bring you round
Changes

I look into the mirror
I see no happiness
All the warmth I gave you
Has turned to emptiness
The love we had has fallen
The love we used to share
You've left me here believing
In love that wasn't there

Change changing places
Root yourself to the ground
Word to the wise - well you get whats coming
One word can bring you round
Changes

When I look into your eyes and try to find out how
There's no way to save it now
And everything I feel
Changes
Keep looking for
Changes
Changes

For some reason you're questioning why
I always believe it gets better
One difference between you and i
Your heart is inside your head

One word from you
One word from me
A clear design on your liberty
Who could believe when love has gone
How we move on like everyone

Only such fools
Only such jealous hearts

Only through love changes come

Change changing places
Root yourself to the ground
Capitalize on this good fortune
One word can bring you round
Changes

One road to loneliness
Its always the same
One road to happiness
Its calling your name"



www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRUmjphVqFk

EDIT:

One more interesting connection.

Trevor Rabin:

"Along with a budding solo career, Rabin began working as a producer and session player. Some of his prominent work included South African vocalist Margaret Singana ("Where Is The Love?") and fellow South African expatriate, Manfred Mann (The Mighty Quinn) and his Earth Band."

Klaus Voormann was the bass player for Manfred Mann, and played on the Dylan penned "The Mighty Quinn". For more, see reply #1 and reply #6 here:

invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pidpix&thread=4909&page=1

[B]

Well...not to veer too much off course, but when you post a song called "Changes", I can't help but
think about:

david bowie - changes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3vxEudif8

Oh yeah
Mm
Still don't know what I was waiting for
And my time was running wild
A million dead-end streets and
Every time I thought I'd got it made
It seemed the taste was not so sweet

So I turned myself to face me
But I've never caught a glimpse
Of how the others must see the faker
I'm much too fast to take that test

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
(turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-changes
Don't want to be a richer man
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
(turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-changes
Just gonna have to be a different man
Time may change me
But I can't trace time

I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence.
So the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same

And these children that you spit on,
As they try to change their worlds,
Are immune to your consultations.
They're quite aware of what they're going through:

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
(turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-changes
Dont tell them to grow up and out of it
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
(turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-changes
Where's your shame?
You've left us up to our necks in it!
Time may change me
But you can't trace time

Strange fascination, fascinating me
Ah changes are taking the pace I'm going through

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
(turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-changes
Oh, look out you rock n rollers
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
(turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-changes
Pretty soon now you're gonna get a little older
Time may change me
But I can't trace time.
I said that time may change me
But I cant trace time.
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which may or may not have to do with PID/PWR, but then, Bowie never did any PID songs, did he?