PID/PWR songs

[mommybird]

More Panic In the Disco:

"London Beckoned Songs About Money Written By Machines"

Stop stalling, make a name for yourself.
Boy you better put that pen to paper, charm your way out.
If you talk you better walk you better back your shit up
With more than good hooks while you're all under the gun

Start talking "a sensationalist"
Oh he's slightly clever to just a certain extent
If you talk you better walk you better keep your mouth shut
With more than good hooks while you're all under the gun

(Panic!: meet the press)
It's time for us to take a chance
It's time for us to take a chance

(Panic!: meet the press)
It's time for us to take a chance
It's time for us...

Well we're just a wet dream for the webzine,
Make us it, make us hip, make us scene
Or shrug us off your shoulders
Don't approve a single word that we wrote

Well we're just a wet dream for the webzine,
Make us it, make us hip, make us scene
Or shrug us off your shoulders
Don't approve a single word that we wrote

I'm burning and I'm blacking my lungs
Boy you know it feels good with fire back on your tongue
If you talk you better walk you better back your shit up
With more than good hooks while you're all under the gun

Start talking "a sensationalist"
Oh he's slightly clever to just a certain extent
Well keep quiet let us sing like the doves
Then decide if it's done with purpose or lack thereof.

Just for the record,
The weather today is slightly sarcastic with a good chance of:
A. Indifference or
B. Disinterest in what the critics say

It's time for us to take a chance
It's time for us...

Well we're just a wet dream for the webzine,
Make us it, make us hip, make us scene
Or shrug us off your shoulders
Don't approve a single word that we wrote

Well we're just a wet dream for the webzine,
Make us it, make us hip, make us scene
Or shrug us off your shoulders
Don't approve a single word that we wrote

Just for the record,
The weather today is slightly sarcastic with a good chance of:
A. Indifference or
B. Disinterest in what the critics say

Well we're just a wet dream for the webzine,
Make us it, make us hip, make us scene
Or shrug us off your shoulders
Don't approve a single word that we wrote

Well we're just a wet dream for the webzine,
Make us it, make us hip, make us scene
Or shrug us off your shoulders
Don't approve a single word that we wrote

Just for the record,
The weather today is slightly sarcastic with a good chance of:
A. Indifference or
B. Disinterest in what the critics say Sounds like something that John Winston would say/write !

Speaking of John Winston, could this be written about what happened to him after Paul died

"Nails For Breakfast, Tacks For Snacks"

Watch your mouth
Oh, oh, oh
Because your speech is slurred enough
That you just might swallow your tongue
I'm sure you'd want, want to give up the ghost
With just a little more poise than that

Or was it God who chokes
In these situations, running late?
No, no, he called in
Or was it God who chokes
In these situations, running late?
No, no, he called in

The hospice is
A relaxing weekend getaway
Where you're a cut above all the rest
Sick and sad patients
On first name basis with all the top physicians

Prescribed pills
To offset the shakes
To offset the pills
You know you should take
It a day at a time

That's when you stu-stu-stutter something profound
To the support on the line
And with the way you've been talking
Every word gets you a step closer to hell

That's when you stu-stu-stutter something profound
To the support on the line
And with the way you've been talking
Every word gets you a step closer to hell

Prescribed pills
To offset the shakes
To offset the pills
You know you should take
It a day at a time

Prescribed pills
To offset the shakes
To offset the pills
You know you should take
It a day at a time

I am
Alone in this bed, house, and head
And she never fixes this
But at least she...

I am
Alone, in this bedroom
She never fixes this
But at least she...

Prescribed pills
To offset the shakes
To offset the pills
You know you should take
It a day at a time

Prescribed pills
To offset the shakes
To offset the pills
You know you should take
It a day at a time

The hospice is
A relaxing weekend getaway
Where you're a cut above all the rest
Sick and sad patients
On first name basis with all the top physicians

That's about all I could see in their lyrics that might relate to any of this. I think maybe I should contact these guys & see if they'll write a song about PID ! ;D

PANIC AT THE DISCO BIOGRAPHY:


Just barely out of high school, emo-pop outfit Panic! at the Disco burst out of suburban Las Vegas in 2005 with their full-length debut, A Fever You Can't Sweat Out.


Taking their name from a line in Name Taken's "Panic," the group materialized when friends Spencer Smith (drums) and Ryan Ross (guitar) grew tired of covering blink-182 tunes together and thus recruited classmates Brendon Urie (guitar/vocals) and Brent Wilson (bass) to complete the quartet. Crafting pop-influenced songs with theatrical touches, quirky techno beats, and perceptive lyrics, Panic! at the Disco posted some demos online and soon caught the attention of Decaydance, the Fueled by Ramen imprint headed by Fall Out Boy's Pete Wentz. Even though the band had yet to play a live show, they subsequently became the first band signed to the label. With their record issued in September 2005, the guys hit the road that fall on the successful Nintendo Fusion Tour alongside Fall Out Boy, Motion City Soundtrack, Boys Night Out, and the Starting Line. As their single "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" found its way into TRL hearts (and the Top 40) by the early months of 2006, the band kept the momentum going on the road with the Academy Is..., Acceptance, and Hellogoodbye. Proving to be a popular lineup, the tour consistently sold out venues across the country. Wilson was fired from the group mid-year; Panic! pressed on with their friend Jon Walker on board for a full summer of headlining dates around the country that culminated with appearances in Chicago at Lollapalooza and overseas at the U.K.'s Reading and Leeds festivals. Their second single from Fever, "The Only Difference Between Martyrdom and Suicide Is Press Coverage," also began making waves on radio and TV, as the guys picked up Video of the Year at MTV's yearly VMA ceremony, beating out heavy hitters like Madonna and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. A collector's boxset version of Fever, full of random Panic paraphernalia and a DVD, came out just in time for the 2006 holiday season. ~ Corey Apar, All Music Guide


www.vh1.com/artists/az/panic_at_the_disco/bio.jhtml

[fourthousandholes]

Mommybird wrote:
"After his recovery, he issued the despairing single "Noir, C'est Noir" as a
commentary on his near-tragedy.***** Someone needs to get the lyrics to that single
& translate them to English."

That was done at TKIN. Perhaps someone who is a member there can do a search and
post that. Their search engine isn't available to non-members.
Or you could put in a request to Total Information, who
referenced the song title in one of his posts.

(Reply #87 here:
invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=connection&thread=1145033903&page=4 )

[mommybird]

Thank you, 4000. I'll see what I can do.

[Girl]

Noir, C'est Noir is the French version of Black Is Black, or vice versa, whichever was written first.

Of course, it doesn't translate perfectly word for word, but it's basically the same thing.

Black is black
I want my baby back
It's gray, it's gray
Since she went away, Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' blue

If I had my way
She'd be back today
But she don't intend
To see me again, Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' blue

I can't choose
It's too much to lose
My love's too strong
Wow! Maybe if she
would come back to me
Then it can't go wrong

Bad is bad
That I feel so sad
It's time, it's time
That I found peace of mind, Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' blue

I can't choose
It's too much to lose
My love's too strong
Wow! Maybe if she
would come back to me
Then it can't go wrong

Black is black
I want my baby back
It's gray, it's gray
Since she went away, Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' blue.....,



Noir c'est noir
Il n'y a plus d'espoir
Oui gris c'est gris
Et c'est fini, oh, oh, oh, oh
a me rend fou j'ai cru ton amour
Et je perds tout
Je suis dans le noir
J'ai du mal y croire
Au gris de l'ennui
Et je te crie, oh, oh, oh, oh
Je ferai tout pour sauver notre amour
Tout jusqu'au bout
Si un mot peut tout changer je le trouverai
Il ne faut plus en douter, il faut essayer
Noir c'est noir, Il n'est jamais trop tard
Pour moi du gris j'n'en veux plus dans ma vie, oh, oh
a me rend fou de perdre ton amour
Je te l'avoue
Maintenant pour le sauver tout je suis pret
A l'instant de la vrit pourquoi en douter
Noir c'est noir il me reste l'espoir
Oui gris c'est gris je n'veux plus d'ennuis, oh, oh
a vaut le coup de sauver notre amour
Rien que pour nous
De sauver notre amour
Rien que pour nous.

I parlez-vous a little, my translation won't be perfect, but accurate enough...

Black is black
there is no more hope
yes, grey is grey
and it's finished, (over, ended) oh oh oh oh
i'm going crazy, I believed in your love
and I've lost everything
I'm in the dark (black)
it hurts to believe
the grey of longing
I scream for you
I will do anything to save our love
all the way to the end
if one word could change anything, I will find it
must not doubt anymore, must try
black is black, it's never too late
For me, I want no more grey in my life, oh oh
going crazy to have lost your love
I confess to you
I'm ready to save everything
at the moment of truth, why doubt
Black is black, there is hope for me
yes, grey is grey, no more longing
it's worth a shot to save our love
just for us
to save our love
just for us.

I can tell you this: it's a LOT better than the online translators! ;D

[mommybird]

Girl, thank you ! Now, how do we fit this in with the facts I will be working more on this tomorrow. I am in the process of trying to chronologically date the photos of Sylvie, so that we can get a better sense as to when she was replaced.

[fourthousandholes]

Talking Heads 77
-------------------------------------
Uh-oh, Love Comes to Town
-------------------------------------

Wait, wait for the moment to come
Stand up, stand up and take my hand
Believe, believe in mystery
Love love love love is simple as 1-2-3

I'm a know-it-all, I'm smartest man around
That's right, you learn real fast through the smartest girl in town
Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you were really smart, you'd know what to do
When...

Jump back, sit back, get back, relax
It's ok
I've called in sick I won't go to
Work today
I'd rather be with the
One I love
I neglect my duties, I be in trouble but

I've been to college, I've been to school
I've met the people that you read about in books
Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you were really smart you'd know what to do when I say
Jet pilot gone out of control, ship captain on the ground
Stock broker make a bad investment when love has come to town

Where, where is my common sense?
How...did I get in a jam like this?
Believe, I believe in mystery
Love, love love love is simple as 1-2-3

Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say
Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around?
The answer is obvious, love has come to town

The clues in the song have been discussed here a number of times. I may add
comments later.

[fourthousandholes]

The Killer is Me
Alice In Chains


Dont need a gun
Pointed at me
No need to run
The killer is me
The killer is me

So the sun
Shines upon me
Im havin fun
The killer is me

Insane the mind
In the name of me
Cant find the time
To let things be

Insane the mind
In the name of me
Cant find the time
To let things be
Let things be

Oh yeah... can I start over
Oh yeah... can I start over
And get over it

So the sun
Shines upon me
Im havin fun
The killer is me
The killer is me
The killer is me

Oh yeah... can I start over
Oh yeah... can I start over
And get over it

Let things be

'Alice' in (wonderland) Chains - Odd name for a group, don'tcha think?

[jarvitronics]

I don't usually post non-Beatle stuff, but...

Here are some possibly relevant lyrics from Kevin Gilbert, who co-wrote and played on most of the songs on Sheryl Crow(e)'s debut smash. Kev produced for notables such as Keith Emerson, Tina Turner, and Suzanna Hoffs. He was an industry insider, who knew and worked with lots of people, and was in a position to know things.

He was good friends with Julian Lennon.

In 1996, Kevin was found dead on his bed, in a black skirt with a black hood over his head and a belt around his neck. Foul play was never considered...

Waiting - Kevin Gilbert
(Thud)

I'm waiting for the apple, I'm waiting for the fall
I'm waiting for a renaissance to electrify us all
I'm waiting for the mailman to bring me news of friends
I'm waiting through the middle just to see how it will end
How it will end

I'm waiting for love to come
I'm waiting for you to run
I'm waiting for wonder to return

I'm waiting for the confidential files to be released
I'm waiting for the index on my fear to be increased
I'm waiting for the judgment of the living and the dead
I'm waiting for the Pagan times that surely are ahead
I'm waiting for the show to start, the one I paid to see
I'm waiting for the good things that are coming back to me
Are coming back to me

I'm waiting for love to come
I'm waiting for you to run
I'm waiting for wonder to return

I'm waiting for the man made gods to do the will of men
I'm waiting for the CIA to cover up again
I'm waiting for the militants to lighten up a bit
I'm waiting for the mafia to make this song a hit

I'm waiting in the shadows with a chain around my wrist
I'm waiting with my best friend held firmly in my fist
I'm waiting for my heroes to tell me what to dream
I'm waiting for my neighbors to tell me what's obscene
I'm waiting for the apple, I'm waiting for the fall
I'm waiting for a renaissance to electrify us all

I'm waiting for love to come
I'm waiting for you to run
I'm waiting for wonder to return

----

When You Give Your Love To Me - Kevin Gilbert
(Thud)

I've been thinking about this for the last three days
I don't think that I'm deluding myself
I don't think that this is just a phase
And I don't mean to shock you
I hope that I'm not rushing in
But I think that this is kinda important
And I don't know exactly where to begin

My whole life has been a constant ailment
You can provide a simple remedy
Yeah, I'm gonna show some vast improvement
When you give your love to me

And you can trust that I'm a worthy recipient
And be assured I'll act responsibly
I'll treat it like a work of rare and priceless art
When you give your love to me

So hows about it girlfriend?
Am I gonna have to twist your arm?
Perhaps it's not the most original concept
But it has a kind of timeless charm

You'll have the little birds flying all around your head
And you'll gaze at me dreamily
Yeah, the whole world's gonna smile and wave
When you give your love to me

And I will write you a hundred sonnets
Every word will rhyme easily
And all your friends will be genuinely supportive
When you give your love to me

I'm sick of hearing about sadness
I'm sick of violent crime
I'm sick of angry militant lesbian feminists
I'm sick of imperfect rhyme

I've always heard that we should love one another
And what a fine example we would be
Maybe we can start a trend or something
When you give your love to me

And maybe we can get our friends together
And they'll all get along famously
I think that everyone will feel much better
When you give your love to me

There'll be global peace and religious tolerance
All men as brothers in a world that's free
There'll be a perfect cosmic harmonic convergence
When you give your love to me

[Paul Bearer]

Hmmm...."I'm waiting for the Apple [Corp], I'm waiting for the Faul..."

[mommybird]

What scares me most about the last few posts is how that poor man died. He sang about kinky sex. So, they staged his death to make it appear like he died during it. VERY smooth. TOO smooth. I definitely watch too much CSI !

[fourthousandholes]

www.teenagewildlife.com/Albums/HD/TBB.html

Bewlay Brothers
David Bowie

See it/hear it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUqMwFKXAI0

And so the story goes they wore the clothes
They said the things to make it seem improbable
The whale of a lie like they hope it was
And the Goodmen Tomorrow
Had their feet in the wallow
And their heads of Brawn were nicer shorn
And how they bought their positions with saccharin and trust
And the world was asleep to our latent fuss
Sighing, the swirl through the streets
Like the crust of the sun
The Bewlay Brothers
In our Wings that Bark
Flashing teeth of Brass
Standing tall in the dark
Oh, And we were Gone
Hanging out with your Dwarf Men
We were so turned on
By your lack of conclusions

I was Stone and he was Wax
So he could scream, and still relax, unbelievable
And we frightened the small children away
And our talk was old and dust would flow
Thru our veins and Lo! it was midnight
Back o' the kitchen door
Like the grim face on the Cathedral floor
And the solid book we wrote
Cannot be found today

And it was Stalking time for the Moonboys
The Bewlay Brothers
With our backs on the arch
In the Devil-may-be-here
But He can't sing about that
Oh, And we were Gone
Real Cool Traders
We were so Turned On
You thought we were Fakers

Now the dress is hung, the ticket pawned
The Factor Max that proved the fact
Is melted down
And woven on the edging of my pillow
Now my Brother lays upon the Rocks
He could be dead, He could be not
He could be You
He's Chameleon, Comedian, Corinthian and Caricature
"Shooting-up Pie-in-the-Sky"
The Bewlay Brothers
In the feeble and the Bad
The Bewlay Brothers
In the Blessed and Cold
In the Crutch-hungry Dark
Was where we flayed our Mark
Oh, and we were Gone
Kings of Oblivion
We were so Turned On
In the Mind-Warp Pavilion

Lay me place and bake me Pie
I'm starving for me Gravy
Leave my shoes, and door unlocked
I might just slip away

Just for the Day, Hey!
Please come Away, Hey! (repeat ad inf.)

This song was posted at TKIN as a suspect PID/PWR song by someone.
I'd be curious where the name "Bewlay" came from.
Could that actually be the name of the "brothers Faul"?
The song appears to be full of references to people, so, for example, "Gravy" might be
a reference to Woodstock master of ceremonies "Wavey Gravy" etc.
There's something going on here, but I don't quite know what it is...
From the notes accompanying the song at YouTube:

"The Bewlay Brothers" is a song written by David Bowie in 1971 for the album
Hunky Dory. The last song written and recorded on Hunky Dory, this ballad has been described
as "probably Bowie's densest and most impenetrable song". The composer himself supposedly
told producer Ken Scott that it was a track for the American market, because "the Americans
always like to read things into things", even though the lyrics "make absolutely no sense".
Bowie named his publishing company in the late 1970s Bewlay Bros. Music and used the name
as a pseudonym for himself, Iggy Pop and Colin Thurston as producers of Pop's 1977
album Lust for Life."

[mommybird]

I have photos of Faul with Bowie from the time of Bowie's Serious Moonlight tour, 1980. I think that Life on Mars is also from the Honky Dory album. That has been pegged as a PID song, so that puts his involvement with the whole thing back to at least 1970/71.
Verrryyyy interesting !!!! Bowie wasn't kidding when he said that about writing lyrics that make no sense. He was kinda known for doing that...

[fourthousandholes]

Got-a Get Up
Harry Nilsson

Got-a get up got-a get out got-a get home before the morning comes
What if I’m late got a big day got-a get home before the sun comes up
Up and away got-a big day sorry can’t stay I got-a run, run yeah
Got-a get home pick up the phone
got-a let the people know I’m gonna be late

There was a time when we could dance until a quarter to ten
We never thought it would end then
We never thought it would end
We used to carry on and drink and do the rock and roll
We never thought we’d get older
We never thought we’d grow cold

But now, got-a get up got-a get out got-a get home before the morning comes
What if I’m late got a big day got-a get home before the sun comes up
Up and away got-a big day sorry can’t stay I got-a run, run yeah
Got-a get home pick up the phone
got-a let the people know I’m gonna be late

Down by the sea she knew a sailor who had been to war
She never even knew a sailor before
She didn’t even knew his name
He’d come to town and he would pound it for a couple of days
And then he’d sail across the bubbly ways
And those were happier days

But now, got-a get up got-a get out got-a get home before the morning comes
What if I’m late got a big day got-a get home before the sun comes up
Up and away got-a big day sorry can’t stay I got-a run, run yeah
Got-a get home pick up the phone
got-a let the people know I’m gonna be late

Unfortunately, there's no YouTube version of this song. It speeds up at the end,
going faster and faster, implying that the person singing it is in a merry-go-round pattern of
running off to see his girl friend during the night and then trying to get into work on time in the
morning. Apollo C Vermouth once referenced the song as possibly having a significance.
I believe this song may describe one of the 'Paul's" habits, and suggests that he burned out from
the effort. This might be the one who ended up institutionalized.

[letterb]

This song came out in 1971, just a year and a few months after the PID wave had hit the
country in October 1969. YouTuber "Beatleologist" says of this song:

"The song was referencing the ill-fated Wichita State Football teams'
plane crash, which occurred on October 2, 1970 as they were on route to a game in Utah."

I do recall that being said at the time, but given the musical suggestions that Paul or
other Beatles may at one time have been in a plane that was shot out of the sky,
I have to wonder if the actual inspiration for the song came from that.
The song certainly creeped out a lot of people when it came out!


D.O.A.
Bloodrock

Laying here looking at the ceiling
Someone lays a sheet across my chest
Something warm is flowing down my fingers
Pain is flowing all through my back

I try to move my arm and there's no feeling
And when I look I see there's nothing there
The face beside me stopped it totally bleeding
The girl I knew has such a distant stare

I remember
We were flying low and hit something in the air
I remember
We were flying low and hit something in the air

Then I looked straight at the attendant
His face is pale as it can be
He bends and whispers something softly
He says there's no chance for me

I remember
We were flying low and hit something in the air
I remember
We were flying low and hit something in the air

Life is flowing out my body
Pain is flowing out with my blood
The sheets are red and moist where I'm lying
God in Heaven, teach me how to die

I remember
We were flying low and hit something in the air
I remember
We were flying low and hit something in the air.....

(end)
------------------

Hear it: Murky, but complete, YouTube version:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKiV34O0L50

High quality, but shortened, version at Tilly Tunes:
(scroll down and click on it)
home.nycap.rr.com/tillyny/TillyTunes.htm

[GN]

letterb said:

This song came out in 1971, just a year and a few months after the PID wave had hit the
country in October 1969. YouTuber "Beatleologist" says of this song:

"The song was referencing the ill-fated Wichita State Football teams'
plane crash, which occurred on October 2, 1970 as they were on route to a game in Utah."

I do recall that being said at the time, but given the musical suggestions that Paul or
other Beatles may at one time have been in a plane that was shot out of the sky,
I have to wonder if the actual inspiration for the song came from that.
The song certainly creeped out a lot of people when it came out!


D.O.A.
Bloodrock

Laying here looking at the ceiling
Someone lays a sheet across my chest
Something warm is flowing down my fingers
Pain is flowing all through my back

I try to move my arms and there's no feeling
And when I look I see there's nothing there
The face beside me stopped it totally bleeding
The girl I knew has such a distant stare

I remember
We were flying along and hit something in the air
I remember
We were flying along and hit something in the air

Then I looked straight at the attendant
His face is pale as it can be
He bends and whispers something softly
He says there's no chance for me

I remember
We were flying along and hit something in the air
I remember
We were flying along and hit something in the air

Life is flowing out my body
Pain is flowing out with my blood
The sheets are red and moist where I'm lying
God in Heaven, teach me how to die

I remember
We were flying along and hit something in the air
I remember
We were flying along and hit something in the air.....

(end)
------------------

Hear it: Murky, but complete, YouTube version:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKiV34O0L50

High quality, but shortened, version at Tilly Tunes:
(scroll down and click on it)
home.nycap.rr.com/tillyny/TillyTunes.htm

William A. Shea

Municipal Stadium

IF that is a reliable source
THEN Paul died on the night of Tuesday August 23th 1966 during the flight from New York to Los Angeles.
ON Utah sky.
SO Paul never went to Seattle



IF
IT Was Forty-One Years Ago Today

[letterb]

If that is true, and today is the anniversary, that really is sad.
When I read what you wrote, GN, I got vibes of sadness.
Interesting use of "I WAS" as a clue, btw.

[B]

The DOA lyrics by Bloodrock remind me of these from the Rolling Stones:

Hear it: Marianne Faithfull:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4nh4OYCr0
Rolling Stones:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqRbtSl0Yi8 (barely audible)

Sister Morphine
(m. jagger/k. richards/m. faithfull)

Here I lie in my hospital bed
Tell me, sister morphine, when are you coming round again?
Oh, I dont think I can wait that long
Oh, you see that Im not that strong

The scream of the ambulance is sounding in my ears
Tell me, sister morphine, how long have I been lying here?
What am I doing in this place?
Why does the doctor have no face?

Oh, I cant crawl across the floor
Ah, cant you see, sister morphine, Im trying to score

Well it just goes to show
Things are not what they seem
Please, sister morphine, turn my nightmares into dreams
Oh, cant you see Im fading fast?
And that this shot will be my last

Sweet cousin cocaine, lay your cool cool hand on my head
Ah, come on, sister morphine, you better make up my bed
cause you know and I know in the morning Ill be dead
Yeah, and you can sit around, yeah and you can watch all the
Clean white sheets stained red.

---------------

I don't know if there's a PID/PWR connection here or not....

[ezwizard]

Hey 4K,

Why the name change?

[B]

I saw God.

[mommybird]

LB, next time you see him, say hi for me ! ;D

GN wrote:

William A. Shea

Municipal Stadium

IF that is a reliable source
THEN Paul died on the night of Tuesday August 23th 1966 during the flight from New York to Los Angeles.
ON Utah sky.
SO Paul never went to Seattle

I found a website with rare photos of The Beatles during their 1966 concert in Seattle, Wa.

Here they are:






members.tripod.com/VeraChucknDave/Beatles.htm

I found a transcription of The Beatles press conference in Seattle, Wa. 8/25/66:

ABOUT THIS INTERVIEW:
The Beatles flew from New York to Seattle on the morning of August 25th 1966, performing an afternoon and evening show at Seattle Coliseum.
The following press conference was held at the Edgewater Inn before the afternoon show. The Beatles were asked about their songwriting and musical evolution, Jane Asher, sitars, and plans for their next movie.

Following the press conference, each of the group were presented official certificates designating them honorary citizens of the state of Washington.


From here the Beatles tour flew to southern California, taking two days off in Beverly Hills leading up to their concert at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles.

- Jay Spangler, Beatles Ultimate Experience


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

M.C: "Can we have the first question, please."
Q: "John, could you please tell me something about your new movie, 'How I Won The War'?"

JOHN: "Oh, I don't know anything about it except for I'm in it, and it's about the last world war."

Q: "I'd like to address a question to Paul McCartney. Would you confirm or deny the report of your marriage to Jane Asher in Seattle this evening?"

PAUL: (jokingly) "It's tonight, yeah."

Q: "What time and where?"

PAUL: "Tonight-- I can't tell you that, now can I?"

(laughter)

PAUL: "I couldn't tell ya... it's a secret."

GEORGE: "OK, it's a secret. We don't want all the people there, do we?"

Q: "You are confirming the report?"

PAUL: "No, not really. It was... it's a joke. Who started this? Anyone know? Does anyone know? I just got in today and found out I was getting married tonight. No, she is not coming in tonight as far as I know."

GEORGE: "And if she does, we are going out tonight anyway... so we'll miss her."

PAUL: (laughs)

(laughter)

Q: "I'd like to direct this to any of the Beatles. Do you believe that you represent a different type of morality-- or a new type of morality-- than, say, the 'Rolling Stones' or the protest groups?"

JOHN: "Are they a protest group? Since when?"

Q: "No. 'OR a protest group.'"

PAUL: "OR a protest group! No. We don't represent anything like that. It's the 'Cyrkle' that do that."

(laughter)

PAUL: "'Turn Down Day.' I think you've heard that one, haven't you! Folk song!"

Q: "I'd like to ask John Lennon a question-- I hope I get a chance to ask him a second one. This is sort of double-barreled. I'd like to know your motivation in this. Money? I'd like to think it's enjoyment, and I'd like to think you're having as much fun as you seem to be when you're doing it."

JOHN: "Well, when I look as though I'm having fun-- I am, you know. When I'm not-- I'm not, usually. So it varies."

Q: "Do I get another chance? One more chance? I have this little prediction that in 25 years you're going to be a great writer. I'd like to talk to you about it sometime."

JOHN: "Well, I mean, we're between 25 years then."

Q: "I'll make you a date."

JOHN: "OK."

GEORGE: "See ya, Penny Lane."

Q: "I'd like to address this question to anybody in the group. What about the next movie? --heard alot of stories --nothing's confirmed. Has there been anything decided?"

PAUL: "Nothing."

GEORGE: "Somebody gave us a good idea, so we told him to go and write it into a script. So we won't really be able to tell if we're gonna make the film until we've read the script. And as he hasn't finished the script, we haven't read the script-- so we won't know yet until about Christmas, maybe. But if it is a good one and we like it, we'll probably start it 'round about January, February, or March... or December."

Q: "I have three questions, if I can. For one-- Do you think the audience that your music attracts has changed from say the thirteen and fourteen year old girls to more of the college age, and if so, do you like it better that way?"

PAUL: "Uhh, I think it's probably got a bit older. I don't know how old. And it's nice."

Q: "Did you intend it that way?"

PAUL: "No. We don't intend anything, you know. That's the trouble." (laughs)

JOHN: "It all happens..."

Q: "Also, Paul-- Since your rumors were denied, then what are you doing after the show?"

(laughter)

PAUL: "I don't know... marrying you, probably!"

(laughter)

Q: "How are the attendance on this tour compared to past American tours?"

PAUL: "It's been... apparently been more at the shows than there were last time."

Q: "Do you think that the so-called adverse publicity hurt or helped in this?"

PAUL: "No idea, you know. We haven't been able to tell really because we... You know, the press keeps saying, 'I see it's hurt you.' And our managers keep saying it hasn't. So, you know, who do we believe?"

Q: "John and Paul, I'd like to know if all the songs that are said to be written by Lennon and McCartney are always written by both of you, or do you ever do one all by yourself?"

JOHN: (jokingly, to Paul) "Don't they buy 'Datebook'?"

PAUL: "No, we do them seperately and together."

Q: "Your music used to be mostly composed of guitar backgrounds, and recently you've come around to strings and harpsichords and alot of weird things like that. Is there any purpose in this evolution?"

PAUL: "Yeah."

JOHN: (at same time as Paul) "No."

PAUL: (laughs)

GEORGE: "Just to use something else besides guitars."

PAUL: "And because those things aren't... it's not necessarily sort of 'coming around to them' you know, like we're giving-in to 'em. It's finding them again."

Q: (dressed as a 'Jolly Green Giant') "I don't know if there is a Jolly Green Giant in England, fellows, but I come with good wishes from Vancouver. You played there a short while ago. And we were wondering whether you are coming back to Vancouver."

PAUL: "Maybe. Brian decides where we go. So, maybe."

Q: "All the people in Vancouver wanted to wish John a happy 4th anniversary a few days ago, John."

JOHN: "Thank you. Well, you thank them... Jolly Green Giant."

(laughter)

Q: "...and a question. George, where do you get your sitars?"

GEORGE: "Where do I get them? Or where do people generally get them?"

Q: "Where can people generally get a sitar?"

GEORGE: "India."

(laughter)

Q: "Paul, before, you said that there were some songs that you 'have to' write. Could you explain what you mean by 'have to' write?"

PAUL: "Hmmm. No see, I just said that in passing. I just meant that there was an LP due. And when an LP is due we write songs, you know. We do it like that more than write all the time. We don't write all the time. We write more 'to order.' You know, if we've got fourteen tracks to fill, then we've got fourteen songs to write. That's what I mean."


ource: Transcribed by the Beatles Ultimate Experience website from audio recording of the press conference

www.geocities.com/~beatleboy1/db1966.0825.beatles.html

Some comparisons between the above photos & photos of Faul from 1967:
Paul Faul

Paul
Faul

Paul
Faul

Paul
Faul

Paul
Faul 1 & 2

I would like to post comparisons of the above photos to photos of Paul, pre-August, 1966. However, I seem to have run out of time for the evening. If anyone else would like to take over & do so, I would appreciate it. ;D

[jarvitronics]

letterb1 said:

I saw God.

Dog was I
'Til ice hog odd
Holy Fork!
To B or Nod?

--Spearman Don Robot

As long as we are seeing God, here is a song that may be (or may not be - that is the question!) PID/PWR related:

God In The Numbers
Richard Ashcroft

Sometimes you hold the world in your hands
Sometimes the world it baffles you with plans
Some days you drift oh so easy and free
Some nights you sleep in blissful harmony

How do we leave the wreckage of our lives?
How do you leave the past out in the night?
Don't throw away the pictures that give you a smile
Don't throw away the memories that make you cry

I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers

I know that I could learn a little harder
There's so much that I want to read and know
But maybe I'm a little lazy
Maybe I don't really want to know

I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)

The more I learn of history the more I hate it
'Cos we're repeating things we did a thousand years ago
We're building palaces of fortune in the sky
There's an underclass dying whilst we smile

I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)

(I don't wanna
I don't wanna
I don't wanna)

-j

[skyward]

jarvitronics said:

letterb1 said:

I saw God.

Dog was I
'Til ice hog odd
Holy Fork!
To B or Nod?

--Spearman Don Robot

As long as we are seeing God, here is a song that may be (or may not be - that is the question!) PID/PWR related:

God In The Numbers
Richard Ashcroft

Sometimes you hold the world in your hands
Sometimes the world it baffles you with plans
Some days you drift oh so easy and free
Some nights you sleep in blissful harmony

How do we leave the wreckage of our lives?
How do you leave the past out in the night?
Don't throw away the pictures that give you a smile
Don't throw away the memories that make you cry

I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers

I know that I could learn a little harder
There's so much that I want to read and know
But maybe I'm a little lazy
Maybe I don't really want to know

I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)

The more I learn of history the more I hate it
'Cos we're repeating things we did a thousand years ago
We're building palaces of fortune in the sky
There's an underclass dying whilst we smile

I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)
I saw God in the numbers (I saw God in the numbers)

(I don't wanna
I don't wanna
I don't wanna)

-j

Pi, Pythagoras, and The Philosopher's Stone - stay with it till the end



What's between the numbers.

[GN]

mommybird said:

LB, next time you see him, say hi for me ! ;D

GN wrote:

William A. Shea

Municipal Stadium

IF that is a reliable source
THEN Paul died on the night of Tuesday August 23th 1966 during the flight from New York to Los Angeles.
ON Utah sky.
SO Paul never went to Seattle

I found a website with rare photos of The Beatles during their 1966 concert in Seattle, Wa.

Here they are:






members.tripod.com/VeraChucknDave/Beatles.htm

I found a transcription of The Beatles press conference in Seattle, Wa. 8/25/66:

ABOUT THIS INTERVIEW:
The Beatles flew from New York to Seattle on the morning of August 25th 1966, performing an afternoon and evening show at Seattle Coliseum.
The following press conference was held at the Edgewater Inn before the afternoon show. The Beatles were asked about their songwriting and musical evolution, Jane Asher, sitars, and plans for their next movie.

Following the press conference, each of the group were presented official certificates designating them honorary citizens of the state of Washington.


From here the Beatles tour flew to southern California, taking two days off in Beverly Hills leading up to their concert at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles.

- Jay Spangler, Beatles Ultimate Experience


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

M.C: "Can we have the first question, please."
Q: "John, could you please tell me something about your new movie, 'How I Won The War'?"

JOHN: "Oh, I don't know anything about it except for I'm in it, and it's about the last world war."

Q: "I'd like to address a question to Paul McCartney. Would you confirm or deny the report of your marriage to Jane Asher in Seattle this evening?"

PAUL: (jokingly) "It's tonight, yeah."

Q: "What time and where?"

PAUL: "Tonight-- I can't tell you that, now can I?"

(laughter)

PAUL: "I couldn't tell ya... it's a secret."

GEORGE: "OK, it's a secret. We don't want all the people there, do we?"

Q: "You are confirming the report?"

PAUL: "No, not really. It was... it's a joke. Who started this? Anyone know? Does anyone know? I just got in today and found out I was getting married tonight. No, she is not coming in tonight as far as I know."

GEORGE: "And if she does, we are going out tonight anyway... so we'll miss her."

PAUL: (laughs)

(laughter)

Q: "I'd like to direct this to any of the Beatles. Do you believe that you represent a different type of morality-- or a new type of morality-- than, say, the 'Rolling Stones' or the protest groups?"

JOHN: "Are they a protest group? Since when?"

Q: "No. 'OR a protest group.'"

PAUL: "OR a protest group! No. We don't represent anything like that. It's the 'Cyrkle' that do that."

(laughter)

PAUL: "'Turn Down Day.' I think you've heard that one, haven't you! Folk song!"

Q: "I'd like to ask John Lennon a question-- I hope I get a chance to ask him a second one. This is sort of double-barreled. I'd like to know your motivation in this. Money? I'd like to think it's enjoyment, and I'd like to think you're having as much fun as you seem to be when you're doing it."

JOHN: "Well, when I look as though I'm having fun-- I am, you know. When I'm not-- I'm not, usually. So it varies."

Q: "Do I get another chance? One more chance? I have this little prediction that in 25 years you're going to be a great writer. I'd like to talk to you about it sometime."

JOHN: "Well, I mean, we're between 25 years then."

Q: "I'll make you a date."

JOHN: "OK."

GEORGE: "See ya, Penny Lane."

Q: "I'd like to address this question to anybody in the group. What about the next movie? --heard alot of stories --nothing's confirmed. Has there been anything decided?"

PAUL: "Nothing."

GEORGE: "Somebody gave us a good idea, so we told him to go and write it into a script. So we won't really be able to tell if we're gonna make the film until we've read the script. And as he hasn't finished the script, we haven't read the script-- so we won't know yet until about Christmas, maybe. But if it is a good one and we like it, we'll probably start it 'round about January, February, or March... or December."

Q: "I have three questions, if I can. For one-- Do you think the audience that your music attracts has changed from say the thirteen and fourteen year old girls to more of the college age, and if so, do you like it better that way?"

PAUL: "Uhh, I think it's probably got a bit older. I don't know how old. And it's nice."

Q: "Did you intend it that way?"

PAUL: "No. We don't intend anything, you know. That's the trouble." (laughs)

JOHN: "It all happens..."

Q: "Also, Paul-- Since your rumors were denied, then what are you doing after the show?"

(laughter)

PAUL: "I don't know... marrying you, probably!"

(laughter)

Q: "How are the attendance on this tour compared to past American tours?"

PAUL: "It's been... apparently been more at the shows than there were last time."

Q: "Do you think that the so-called adverse publicity hurt or helped in this?"

PAUL: "No idea, you know. We haven't been able to tell really because we... You know, the press keeps saying, 'I see it's hurt you.' And our managers keep saying it hasn't. So, you know, who do we believe?"

Q: "John and Paul, I'd like to know if all the songs that are said to be written by Lennon and McCartney are always written by both of you, or do you ever do one all by yourself?"

JOHN: (jokingly, to Paul) "Don't they buy 'Datebook'?"

PAUL: "No, we do them seperately and together."

Q: "Your music used to be mostly composed of guitar backgrounds, and recently you've come around to strings and harpsichords and alot of weird things like that. Is there any purpose in this evolution?"

PAUL: "Yeah."

JOHN: (at same time as Paul) "No."

PAUL: (laughs)

GEORGE: "Just to use something else besides guitars."

PAUL: "And because those things aren't... it's not necessarily sort of 'coming around to them' you know, like we're giving-in to 'em. It's finding them again."

Q: (dressed as a 'Jolly Green Giant') "I don't know if there is a Jolly Green Giant in England, fellows, but I come with good wishes from Vancouver. You played there a short while ago. And we were wondering whether you are coming back to Vancouver."

PAUL: "Maybe. Brian decides where we go. So, maybe."

Q: "All the people in Vancouver wanted to wish John a happy 4th anniversary a few days ago, John."

JOHN: "Thank you. Well, you thank them... Jolly Green Giant."

(laughter)

Q: "...and a question. George, where do you get your sitars?"

GEORGE: "Where do I get them? Or where do people generally get them?"

Q: "Where can people generally get a sitar?"

GEORGE: "India."

(laughter)

Q: "Paul, before, you said that there were some songs that you 'have to' write. Could you explain what you mean by 'have to' write?"

PAUL: "Hmmm. No see, I just said that in passing. I just meant that there was an LP due. And when an LP is due we write songs, you know. We do it like that more than write all the time. We don't write all the time. We write more 'to order.' You know, if we've got fourteen tracks to fill, then we've got fourteen songs to write. That's what I mean."


ource: Transcribed by the Beatles Ultimate Experience website from audio recording of the press conference

www.geocities.com/~beatleboy1/db1966.0825.beatles.html

Some comparisons between the above photos & photos of Faul from 1967:
Paul Faul

Paul
Faul

Paul
Faul

Paul
Faul

Paul
Faul 1 & 2

I would like to post comparisons of the above photos to photos of Paul, pre-August, 1966. However, I seem to have run out of time for the evening. If anyone else would like to take over & do so, I would appreciate it. ;D

Mom seems to have a fantastic collection, really.







I've found the image above a little stretched (see George head too) but at Seattle it was Paul.

Btw I don't see George and John (Ringo was already replaced at least from one year before) until Beatles very last photo session (that about "Hey Jude" LP).

It's me or...

Was the White Album made only by doubles?

[jarvitronics]

skyward said:

Pi, Pythagoras, and The Philosopher's Stone - stay with it till the end

What's between the numbers.

Thanks for that skyward. It moved me.

Obsession with matter, instead of what matters.

Focusing on the number, instead of what's numb.

-j

[B]

skyward wrote: "Pi, Pythagoras, and The Philosopher's Stone - stay with it till the end"

Yes, it was just like that! ;D

------------------------------------------

When A Blind Man Cries
(Deep Purple)

hear it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEF6YO-VcVg&NR=1

If you're leaving close the door.
Im not expecting people anymore.
Hear me grieving, Im lying on the floor.
Whether Im drunk or dead I really aint too sure.
Im a blind man, Im a blind man and my world is pale.
When a blind man cries, lord, you know there aint no sadder tale.

Had a friend once in a room,
Had a good time but it ended much too soon.
In a cold month in that room
We found a reason for the things we had to do.

Im a blind man, Im a blind man, now my room is cold.
When a blind man cries, lord, you know he feels it from his soul.

There are some suggestions that Paul may have developed blindness.
Note the cover of "Revolver" - Eyes emphasized on the front drawing; white (light);
back side: dark, everyone wearing dark glasses like blind people do.
"Jenny Wren"

And is there a connection here?

Child In Time
(Deep Purple)

hear it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KnTAdfdcWI&NR=1

Sweet child in time you'll see the line
The line that's drawn between the good and the bad.
See the blind man shooting at the world
Bullets flying taking toll
If you feel bad, Lord I bet you have
And you've not been hit by flying lead
You'd better close your eyes and bow your head
And wait for the ricochet.