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Post by multiverser on Feb 4, 2013 10:14:55 GMT -5
If that guy, the John Halliday Forthlin Road Custodian, is the original Paul, I'll bet he wouldn't touch a guitar or sing a tune for fear of painful electrical shock --- and I'm not kidding.
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Post by multiverser on Feb 4, 2013 11:22:07 GMT -5
The latest front page thread on ATS... www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread923497/pg2#pid15864490Yeah, I'm "Switching Yard" and there isn't much more to say to the naive thread readers over there. Are they being led down a merry path by a shill? Who knows, maybe. Deal With The Devil, my arse. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 4, 2013 13:35:14 GMT -5
The latest front page thread on ATS... www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread923497/pg2#pid15864490Yeah, I'm "Switching Yard" and there isn't much more to say to the naive thread readers over there. Are they being led down a merry path by a shill? Who knows, maybe. Deal With The Devil, my arse. Just from observation ... I'm a bass player, and when I see/hear Paul playing now, I know it's him. Sure, people can learn to play other people's songs, but it's impossible to mimic the person's style 100% and sound exactly like them.Problem is, he didn't. Because Paul McCartney rarely if ever looked at the bass and where his fingers were on the neck of it. You can see countless live and lip synched performances of him maintaining direct eye contact with the audience, and only looking at where his fingers were sparingly, and always at the same point of what portion of the song he was at. (see "I Saw Her Standing There" -- he looks at the section going into "heart went boom" - it's a descending scale. Sometimes he looks briefly at the ascending scale for "I couldn't dance with another .." and neither of these sections does Paul McCartney NOW play correctly.) He did this consistently from 1962 thru to 1966. And then BAM. 1967. Style change, constantly looking at the neck of the guitar to see where he is. 1964 Ed Sullivan, I Saw Her Standing There .. I counted twice he had to look. 1999 Cavern Club, I lost count after 25 times. And he plays it wrong. No it's not simply like Freddie or Jimmi's deaths. Freddie died of AIDS and Jimmi OD'd. John was murdered, altogether different. Jimi Hendrix was waterboarded to death. It was murder. |
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Post by iwilliam on Feb 4, 2013 15:52:54 GMT -5
The latest front page thread on ATS... www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread923497/pg2#pid15864490Yeah, I'm "Switching Yard" and there isn't much more to say to the naive thread readers over there. Are they being led down a merry path by a shill? Who knows, maybe. Deal With The Devil, my arse. Funny, that your post is right above one by a dude named "iwilliam." What kind of a freak name is that? lol |
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Post by superman on Feb 4, 2013 21:59:24 GMT -5
I'm betting it's Keenan Wynn; the clip is from Finian's Rainbow (1968). Thanks vOOdOOgurU. Just watched the film, and its quite bizarre though it tries to be altruistic. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 5, 2013 8:11:14 GMT -5
I'm betting it's Keenan Wynn; the clip is from Finian's Rainbow (1968). Thanks vOOdOOgurU. Just watched the film, and its quite bizarre though it tries to be altruistic. Yeah I could do without all the footage of the people dropping unconscious to the grass and their barefeet. For a foot fetishist I imagine those videos to be heaven sent.  For me I kind of wait for it to make its points. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 5, 2013 20:02:41 GMT -5
26th December 1965. That Moped Accident
(what follows is just brainstorming.)
It's the stories told about that Moped accident. He did an interview in June 1966. He stated that he'd just bashed his tooth in, and his appearance looked a bit down, because they had been recording that spring for the album.
On the 18th May they recorded Got To Get You Into My Life until 2.30am. Then on the 19th started filming the Rain and Paperback Writer videos. But it's the 20th at Chiswick House filming videos for the same songs that his lip looks agitated and puffy, and his appearance looks ill.
He said he started growing a moustache, because the scar was embarassing and he knew he'd be appearing in magazines and such.
But you can find so many photos posed for and sent to magazines between Dec 1965 and May 1966. He didn't think about that at all when posing for those, nor to get the tooth fixed.
The rest started growing moustaches like I did. Well, not until December 1966 at best. George in India yes. Ringo apparently too, but they'd been back from Spain and India since November at the latest. And they (John, George & Ringo) do appear unshaven before the 20th December 1966 filmed interviews where they all have moustaches. In fact, Paul was the only one for a short time.
The story just does not add up. Coupled with the appearance in Feb 1967 in Beatles Book Monthly of 3 articles all placed together. Mopeds (john + ringo) Moustaches (all 4) Car Crash Black Mini (Paul's Death Rumour) -- it's just odd that these 3 stories appear on the same page of Beatles Book Monthly. It's almost like it's telling you something. The Mini Paul had was Green, not Black. Paul says he started growing a moustache to cover the scar, but the scar was already a year had, and the chipped tooth for 6 months. John & Ringo Moped story. Is this telling us the Moped accident killed him? January 21st, 1966, Paul is best man at George's Wedding -- he has the chipped tooth. Is that too soon to make an appearance for a double?
Was the double in place already? Was the chipped tooth/lip scar just a cover story? There is just something about that Moped accident that bugs the hell out of me. The story told does not match up to the timeframe or incidents that followed.
3 deaths occur in 1966. Alma Cogan, Kevin MacDonald, and Tara Browne. There's also a member of the Fourmost that dies in March 1966. Millward I think his surname was. But it's these 3 deaths that bug me as well.
Cogan died of stomach cancer. Suspected cause of this was a highly experimental weight loss drug she was injecting.
Kevin MacDonald was co-owner of Sibylla's with Tara Browne. Harrison had a 10% shareholding in Kevin MacDonald Associates Ltd. MacDonald threw himself off a roof. Did he fall or was he pushed. Don't know. Don't know what happened to Harrison's share in Sybilla's OR KMA Ltd.
Tara Browne died in a fatal car crash. Coroner's report states there was nothing in his system at time of death that suggested reckless or lack of reaction skills -- he saved his passenger's life with his quick reaction to the oncoming parked vehicle.
These happened within a very short time span October - December 1966. MacDonald first, then Cogan about 11 days later, then Browne in the last month of 1966. (But it doesn't stop there -- you then have Joe Meek, Joe Orton, Harry Epstein, Brian Epstein ... it keeps going.
Moped. Hmm.
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Post by superman on Feb 5, 2013 22:29:09 GMT -5
Thanks vOOdOOgurU. Just watched the film, and its quite bizarre though it tries to be altruistic. Yeah I could do without all the footage of the people dropping unconscious to the grass and their barefeet. For a foot fetishist I imagine those videos to be heaven sent. For me I kind of wait for it to make its points. I was referring to "Finian's Rainbow". The musical was dripping with political satire, but all seriousness gets lost in the fact that there is a freaking leprechaun running around looking for his pot o' gold. Music was mostly good though. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 6, 2013 3:05:42 GMT -5
Yeah I could do without all the footage of the people dropping unconscious to the grass and their barefeet. For a foot fetishist I imagine those videos to be heaven sent. For me I kind of wait for it to make its points. I was referring to "Finian's Rainbow". The musical was dripping with political satire, but all seriousness gets lost in the fact that there is a freaking leprechaun running around looking for his pot o' gold. Music was mostly good though. Ahhh apologies - I thought you meant Apocalypse Stew Never seen Finian's, but I definitely want to see it now |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 6, 2013 8:47:21 GMT -5
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Post by beacon on Feb 6, 2013 11:03:58 GMT -5
Great blog vOOdOOgurU, the moped accident and the 'false rumour' accident have long intrigued me too, something is not right. When, as you have, link the three articles together, the false rumour, the mopeds and the moustaches, I think you have to come to the conclusion that this is deliberate disinformation. One of the main writers for this magazine was Billy Shepherd - who was in reality Neil Aspinall - and I feel this is one of his pieces and that this is the prototype for PID being laid out before us. What a shame Apollo C Vermouth is no longer here to respond! Incidentally, Aspinall had a film company called Standby Films, if we could only tie that somehow to the Iamaphoney.org then a lot more would become clear. Regarding Sybillas. I am not sure that Tara Browne was involved. As I understand it the major shareholder in this venture was Sir William Piggott-Brown whilst George Harrison, Alan Freeman and Bruce Higham were among the directors. Worringly, the club was managed by a guy called Laurie O’Leary who was an associate of the London gangsters the Kray Twins and who had previosuly run their club, 'Esmeralda's Barn'. Given the involvement of Alan Freeman and, indirectly, the Krays I worry that this may be part of a bigger conspiracy rumoured to involve Brian Epstein. aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/jimmy-savile-kray-twins-cliff-richards.html |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 6, 2013 11:08:15 GMT -5
Tara included Nicky in some of his business deals, dabbling in some of the fashionable boutiques then appearing in Carnaby Street and the King’s Road. He was one of the financial backers for Sibylla’s, advertised as London’s first classic discotheque, the most technologically advanced in Britain, which opened in June 1966.www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/9350160/Nicky-Browne.htmlQuoted from an article in the Telegraph about Nicky Browne's death 22 June, 2012. (Gosh there's the 22nd again of June no less - though she died the 11th of that month)
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 6, 2013 11:13:52 GMT -5
Great blog vOOdOOgurU, the moped accident and the 'false rumour' accident have long intrigued me too, something is not right. When, as you have, link the three articles together, the false rumour, the mopeds and the moustaches, I think you have to come to the conclusion that this is deliberate disinformation. One of the main writers for this magazine was Billy Shepherd - who was in reality Neil Aspinall - and I feel this is one of his pieces and that this is the prototype for PID being laid out before us. What a shame Apollo C Vermouth is no longer here to respond! Incidentally, Aspinall had a film company called Standby Films, if we could only tie that somehow to the Iamaphoney.org then a lot more would become clear. Regarding Sybillas. I am not sure that Tara Browne was involved. As I understand it the major shareholder in this venture was Sir William Piggott-Brown whilst George Harrison, Alan Freeman and Bruce Higham were among the directors. Worringly, the club was managed by a guy called Laurie O’Leary who was an associate of the London gangsters the Kray Twins and who had previosuly run their club, 'Esmeralda's Barn'. Given the involvement of Alan Freeman and, indirectly, the Krays I worry that this may be part of a bigger conspiracy rumoured to involve Brian Epstein. aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/jimmy-savile-kray-twins-cliff-richards.htmlThanks beacon  Also, thank you for the name Laurie O’Leary. Cuz throwing yourself off of a roof when one of your investors is George Harrison, makes little sense. You got things going great. The Beatles are hanging out at your club, and one of them is an investor in it. No reason to go throwing yourself anywhere, unless it's into making that club a huge success. It finally closed doors as Sibylla's in 1968 I believe. In the Nicky Browne article, Tara is listed as co-owner of Sibylla's with MacDonald. It's a very informative piece. It led me to his brother's statements that the coroner's report never found in Tara's body what would lead one to believe he was on anything. Not even drink. Or enough to make a difference. 30mph is kinda fast. |
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Post by beacon on Feb 6, 2013 11:34:34 GMT -5
You are quite correct, that article does state that Tara Browne was involved. Incidentally, the photo you use of the Family party comes from a magazine called Look of London that was owned by Sir William Piggott-Brown and was a rival to Queen. Odd that they didn't have exclusive access to that guest list!
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 6, 2013 11:40:33 GMT -5
You are quite correct, that article does state that Tara Browne was involved. Incidentally, the photo you use of the Family party comes from a magazine called Look of London that was owned by Sir William Piggott-Brown and was a rival to Queen. Odd that they didn't have exclusive access to that guest list! You would think they would. QUEEN magazine is becoming a must have by Christmas wish. This magazine has some stuff in it I think is relevant. Especially that LSD admission. |
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Post by superman on Feb 6, 2013 18:14:18 GMT -5
Was Paul in the car crash with Browne? I always remember the line from "Don't Pass Me By"
it states:
"I'm sorry that I doubted you. I was so unfair. You were in a car crash and you lost your hair"
I always thought "hair" was a play on the word "heir", and with Browne being the Guiness heir...
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Post by multiverser on Feb 7, 2013 1:06:10 GMT -5
The lyrics to Don't Pass Me By are quite spooky. I always thought it was a rather grating nuisance of a track musically. There's that awful fiddle and Ringo's voice is hard edged. I always hated that inclusion on the album or wished they had made it a little easier to listen to. The melody is a mind agitator like O.K. if you were put in a jail cell and they blasted that track at you loudly and on repeat, how long would you last before going crackers? Part of the mind control social engineering thing? Or is it just me? Maybe some people think it's a cute little track but it's always been like fingernails on the chalkboard to my ears --- perhaps on purpose, by design?
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Post by linus on Feb 7, 2013 1:20:20 GMT -5
There is an interview from 1964 in Australia where Ringo mentions that he had just written "Don't Pass Me By", he even hums a few bars. I haven't been able to find it, but I've read about it on a few different occasions.
Were the lyrics altered?
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 7, 2013 5:00:12 GMT -5
Forgive me superman, multiverser, linus for skipping points made. It's just when i see the same names pop up again and again, I have to take a memo Beacon's namedropping of Laurie O'Leary of course made me start hunting for connections. One of those searches yielded at www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/mar/25/ameliahill.theobserverled me to this: Although Ronnie Kray did have a number of regular sexual partners and strong friendships with other homosexual men - including Lord Boothby, for whom he obtained youths - O'Leary says he had a particular penchant for dark, clean-cut, boys with very white teeth. Which reminds me instantly of that anonymous comment posted at the blog to which I have not bookmarked or cannot remember it's name!  But I've posted it somewhere here at Nothing Is Real! Anyway! I'll find it again. The anonymous comment made mention that Dr Richard Asher was provided with teenage boys for medical experiments. Like street kids. (Which reminds me of the claims that Polanski/Tate would look on the streets for Hollywood youths to bring home, whip, and film. ) Which brought me to Lord Boothby. In 1963 Boothby began an illicit affair with East End cat burglar Leslie Holt (d. 1979), a younger man he met at a gambling club. Holt introduced him to the gangster Ronald Kray, the younger Kray twin, who supplied Boothby with young men and arranged orgies in Cedra Court, receiving personal favours from Boothby in return.[11] When Boothby's underworld associations came to the attention of the Sunday Express, the Conservative-supporting paper opted not to publish the damaging story.[16][17] The matter was eventually reported in 1964 in the Labour-supporting Sunday Mirror tabloid, and the parties subsequently named by the German magazine Stern.[18] Boothby denied the story and threatened to sue the Mirror, and because his close homosexual friend, Tom Driberg, a senior Labour MP, was also involved in the criminal ring, neither of the major political parties had an interest in publicity, and the paper's owner, Cecil King, came under pressure from the Labour leadership to drop the matter, to protect Driberg.[11] The Mirror backed down, sacked its editor, apologised, and paid Boothby £40,000 in an out-of-court settlement. Consequently other newspapers became less willing to cover the Krays' criminal activities, which continued unchecked for three more years. It reminds me of Jimmy Saville, and his shutdown of any claims he was at Haut de la Garenne. Which he was. He said he wasn't when investigations began bringing up his name. He said nope! The papers ran a picture of him there. He slapped an injunction on them from printing it. That's power. The Boothby entry at wiki reminds me of that. It also brings up the name Tom Driberg, he of the Crowley nomination for new Beast 666 (if ever he should run.) Driberg of course on that list of signatures petitioning in 1967 to legalise marijuana, to which Paul McCartney agreed to sign, and said I'll get the others to do it no problems! (agreeing to their signatures, without even their consent - just a point to observe) (it's a strange McCartney we have now, who quits smoking Marijuana at 70 years old, because he's "grown up for Beatrice's sake." Forget Stella, Heather, Mary and James. They got the bong hitting dad). Driberg posing as Tiresias and writing for Private Eye is worth looking at as well. If Paul Isn't Dead, fine. But what you have is a major criminal element entering into the picture, particularly around the time of 1965/1966. I mean I'm sure it was always there and present, but I think the ramifications of that criminal element starting catching up. And i don't think Beatles fans want to know about that element. I think it doesn't rest easy. It fits in more with The Stones. It's akin to them, and gets absorbed into their mythology and makes them "intriguing". With The Beatles it doesn't go down easy. I have no problems with it personally. To ignore there are criminal elements within The Beatles story is being myopic. And you have to be wary of a man who for 40 years was an advocate for marijuana legislation, but when pure evidence and data shows that the legalisation of it would benefit a great many, and Hemp laws need to be lifted, he's nowhere to be found. He's suddenly "responsible". It's a funny old world. |
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Post by beacon on Feb 7, 2013 5:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 7, 2013 5:26:33 GMT -5
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 7, 2013 5:30:20 GMT -5
Now, in search of that article that beacon so kindly found I ran across this, and paedophile rings in the 1960's.
Meek’s homosexuality and lust for young boys put him under further pressure; he had been convicted of “importuning for immoral purposes” in 1963 and fined £15: he was consequently subject to blackmail. In January 1967, police in Tattingstone, Suffolk, discovered a suitcase containing the mutilated body of Bernard Oliver. According to some accounts, Meek became concerned that he would be implicated in the murder investigation when the Metropolitan Police said they would be interviewing all known homosexual men in the city.
Joe Meek had a sadomastic sexual relationship with Ronnie Kray
Joe Meek was addicted to amphetamines and obsessed with séances and the occult. Joe had been arrested for cottaging in 1963…
He had been questioned by police about the ‘Suitcase Murder’… (see more at bottom) afterwards he became increasingly paranoid about all those around him.
Joe committed suicide less than a month after the discovery of the body… At least two other people died in the aftermath of Bernard’s murder as the twins sealed up the leaks.
As the twins sealed up the leaks. That sentence right there sticks out like a sore thumb. Because in September 1966, you start getting a lot of Beatle associated people dying. Nevermind Paul Is Dead beginning to surface. Nevermind that! Now I'm not saying Alma Cogan's death is related to that. But i am saying Kevin MacDonald's death DEFINITELY has implications. And Brian Epstein's. AND David Jacobs. And you can include Joe Orton in that as well. But those aren't the only deaths that begin happening, those are just the homosexual related deaths (barring MacDonald.)
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 7, 2013 5:43:10 GMT -5
Which brings me right to that admission by May Pang that John Lennon went into a rage stating "it was all Polanski's fault." After having dinner with them only a week or so before where everything was pleasant.
WHAT was Polanski's fault.
Exactly what was his fault. You don't say that unless someone's done something wrong that implicates you in their wrong doing. There's something wrong there. Something very wrong. This is 1973, 1974. What was happening to Polanski? And actually I'm going to disregard Polanski's escape from America when charged with sodomising a teenage girl.
I'm thinking Lennon's problem with Polanski, goes back further.
Read through Pete Shotton's account of his times with Lennon. I've had this book for years, I just thought to look and see what he said about 9th November, 1966, or any views on it.
This portion of Lennon's life is not discussed in the book. It might be because Shotton was not present for it. Which is interesting. Because he's definitely around to say who contributed to Eleanor Rigby, which was recorded that Spring of '66. He's around. But absent for that fateful meeting with Yoko Ono. And he's there for and asked to tell Cynthia John wants to divorce her (he refuses to do this for John. I would too.)
WHAT was Polanski's fault.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Feb 7, 2013 6:08:05 GMT -5
Indica gallery/Bookshop.
We need funding!!! Let's approach our friend Paul McCartney to help us start up.
We need attention! We need people to come to our gallery and its exhibitions. We need to get this project off the ground. Who can we mention attends our shows? Peter (Asher) who do you know that would attract attention? Gosh, well Paul McCartney dates my sister and lives at my parents house! We could mention him or get his support and promotion. Great Pete! Who do you know John (Dunbar) -- well crap, I just sent a telegram to John Lennon telling him we had an exhibit, and he was in Spain, but he said he would definitely be there! Great!!! John AND Paul! We couldn't get any better than this! Barry (Miles) who do you know? Well gosh, I know Paul too.
Done deal. We will attract attention to our bookshop and gallery by noting our closeness to The Beatles, which will surely attract the attention of their fans should they know we court them and they are frequently seen hanging around our establishment.
Exhibition opens of Yoko Ono. Only person worth mentioning showing up early is Roman Polanski.
Beatle fan. Who the hell is Roman Polanski??? I thought they knew Beatles. I'm going down to the shops and pick up QUEEN magazine. They talk about Beatles.
Months later at Indica. hey those Paul McCartney and George Harrison interviews we secured sure helped get us some attention! Crap! We just got raided by the cops! Damn! Well keep running Beatles stuff anyway!
Yeah.
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Post by beacon on Feb 7, 2013 6:17:38 GMT -5
A few days ago I speculated if Paul McCartney may have had the song Yesterday hypnotically suggested to him as he slept at the Asher's residence. Re-reading the Celia Imrie / William Sargant article has only helped to further convince me. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1372700/My-electric-shock-nightmare-hands-CIAs-evil-doctor-Calendar-Girls-star-Celia-Imrie.html#axzz2KCuQvdltMcCartney would write several songs while living at the Ashers', including Yesterday, which McCartney claims came to him fully formed in a dream. Upon waking, he hurried to a piano and played the tune to avoid forgetting it. McCartney's initial concern was that he had subconsciously plagiarised someone else's work (known as cryptomnesia). As he put it; "For about a month I went round to people in the music business and asked them whether they had ever heard it before. Eventually it became like handing something in to the police. I thought if no-one claimed it after a few weeks then I could have it." Could it be that the song was deliberately 'placed' in his head as part of an experiment? Could it be that McCartney was being unconsciously subjected to numerous procedures that would render him 'vulnerable to suggestion'? At this time, a contemporary of Richard Asher, William Sargant was busily providing his NHS patients with electro-convulsive therapy and had developed a specialist treatment in what he termed his 'Narcosis Room'. This was a ward where patients were forced into an insulin-induced sleep for days while tapes played instructions to them from under the pillow. The following passage comes from the article that I have linked above: Sargant is notorious for his work for MI5 and the CIA, particularly its covert MK-ULTRA mind control programme. Even then, Sargant was a world expert on brainwashing. Today his books are said to be studied by Al Qaeda. His work has links to the mysterious death of CIA biochemist Frank Olson after being given LSD; the Jonestown massacre in Guyana, where 900 people killed themselves; and to the mind-bending and occasionally lethal drug experiments performed on unwitting human guinea pigs at the Porton Down research centre in Wiltshire.I can't link Asher and Sargant, however, both do seem to have Tavistock links. Can anyone else add anything? |
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For me I kind of wait for it to make its points. 
But I've posted it somewhere here at Nothing Is Real! Anyway! I'll find it again. The anonymous comment made mention that Dr Richard Asher was provided with teenage boys for medical experiments. Like street kids. (Which reminds me of the claims that Polanski/Tate would look on the streets for Hollywood youths to bring home, whip, and film. )