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Post by puzzled on Dec 14, 2008 15:12:43 GMT -5
Biography Formed in Los Angeles, California, USA, and initially known as the Emerals, the Palace Guard comprised of Canadian brothers Don, David and John Beaudoin, Mike Conley (vocals), Chuck McLung (guitar), Rick Moser (bass) and Emitt Rhodes (b. 25 February 1950, Hawthorne, California, USA; drums). Active between 1964 and 1966, they become the resident house band at the famed Hullabaloo nightclub in 1965. Their repertoire largely comprised of cover material, notably Beatles' songs, and their collective Anglophilia was emphasised by wearing Buckingham palace guard uniforms onstage. The Palace Guard made their recording debut with the beat-styled "Summertime People" and "All Night Long", issued on a local label, Orange Empire Records. When their fourth single, "Falling Sugar", became a regional hit, the rights were bought by Verve Records for national distribution. In 1966, the Palace Guard switched to Cameo-Parkway Records, where they completed "Saturday's Child" and "Greed". The band split up in August 1966 a few months after Rhodes left to form the Merry-Go-Round. There is something with the "Orange" symbolism. It appears to oppose the "Green" group somehow. I found an old Celtic folktune about Orange vs. Green, but since it is in code it means nothing to me. (words and music traditional) The Orange and the Green Oh, it is the biggest mix-up that you have ever seen. My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was green. My father was an Ulster man, proud Protestant was he. My mother was a Catholic girl, from county Cork was she. They were married in two churches, lived happily enough, Until the day that I was born and things got rather tough. Baptized by Father Riley, I was rushed away by car, To be made a little Orangeman, my father's shining star. I was christened "David Anthony," but still, inspite of that, To me father, I was William, while my mother called me Pat. With Mother every Sunday, to Mass I'd proudly stroll. Then after that, the Orange lodge would try to save my soul. For both sides tried to claim me, but i was smart because I'd play the flute or play the harp, depending where I was. Now when I'd sing those rebel songs, much to me mother's joy, Me father would jump up and say, "Look here would you me boy. That's quite enough of that lot", he'd then toss me a coin And he'd have me sing the Orange Flute or the Heros of The BoyneOne day me Ma's relations came round to visit me. Just as my father's kinfolk were all sitting down to tea. We tried to smooth things over, but they all began to fight. And me, being strictly neutral, I bashed everyone in sight. ;D My parents never could agree about my type of school. My learning was all done at home, that's why I'm such a fool. They've both passed on, God rest 'em, but left me caught between That awful color problem of the Orange and the Green. Gwen holding an Orange that has been attacked by flies. A glass of orange juice hitting the Twin Towers? There is a Royal family of Orange in European history, but I really don't know what the story is yet.
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Post by B on Dec 14, 2008 15:20:26 GMT -5
thanks B,,, do we have a thread somewhere? can't find.... could be sumthin though, little help? very sorry to disturb the convo, but it may prove relevant (or not) Here's one: invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=others&action=display&thread=1233There was another one on the board somewhere too. I'm pretty sure you contributed to it. puzzled wrote: "There is something with the "Orange" symbolism."In the case above, probably William of Orange: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_OrangeI leave it up to you to decide whether William the first or Filliam the second. Orange juice called "liquid sunshine", hitting the towers, entering through the gate. Daybreak again. For Iameye: Peace Tower Opening Reykjavik Yoko Ono Ringo Starr Harrisonwww.youtube.com/watch?v=gwdw5yTWiK4(Yoko shouts out to John, who, evidently, is in the crowd.)www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JmHVdLy2GcNow how did Sting know about this years before? Sending out an SOSwww.youtube.com/watch?v=ORK_0Hh8JOEIameye can lead us to water, but she can't make us drunk!
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Post by puzzled on Dec 14, 2008 15:39:32 GMT -5
Prince of Orange is a title of nobility, originally associated with the Principality of Orange, now in southern France.
The kings of Prussia and the German emperors styled themselves Princes of Orange till 1918.
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Post by puzzled on Dec 14, 2008 15:44:35 GMT -5
Mr. B said Puzzled wrote: "fifty cents For a dead man's eye, yeah...." (there's that eye thing again) Could that 50 Cents be a reference to the coins they would place over the deceased's eyes [two quarters, aka Two Bits] to pay the Ferryman for his transport across the river STYX? A shave and a haircut....two bits
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Post by B on Dec 14, 2008 15:48:11 GMT -5
BINGO! That has to be it! I never thought of that, but of course! Puzzled has all the pieces!
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Post by B on Dec 14, 2008 15:56:34 GMT -5
For iameye: PEACE TOWER invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=3085&page=1Actually the song puzzled posted has nothing to do with William of Orange. But the picture of the (ahem) BLUE RAY version of "A Clockwork Orange" just happens to have the eye on top of the pyramid, doesn't it? And what's with the pyramid with the spirit inside on the DVD cover? I don't remember that being on the poster when the movie came out, though I may be wrong. (I've never seen it, btw.) Malcolm's holding the knife at a 12 degree angle, btw. And there certainly is an eye on top of the spirit pyramid, which just so happens to be about where the "fire in the middle" of the "py RA mid" is, or "the King's chamber" or "the sepulchre" or "the tomb". Somebody who's seen the movie, tell me who Malcolm is supposed to be. He is being pointed to rather unmistakeably as the spirit of the eye in the pyramid. Gee, am eye off topic or what? ;D
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Post by puzzled on Dec 14, 2008 16:34:06 GMT -5
Should I start a new thread for Orange and Green? I don't want to get too far off topic..? I found this in a Rosicrucian book, and since it combines the Orange and Green with MUSIC, I thought there might be a clue. The following are excerpts and not quoted in their entirety: Intone the divine name attributed to Malkuth. It is ADNI MLK. Adonai Melek, "Lord King." Pronounce: Ad-doh-nah-ee May-lek. Advanced students may work out the tonal sequence of its letters from the tone-correspondences given in the Analysis. Beginners had best intone the first name of the note E-natural, and the last on the note F-sharp, thus indicating the mixture of ORANGE and GREEN (D and F-sharp) in citrine. The color of this Sephirah is ORANGE, the tint attributed to the Sun, because intellectual activity (Mercury) has the solar radiance as its field or sphere of activity. The self-conscious modes of the Life-power use sunlight as their vehicle, or means of expression. Thus the power which the Magician draws down from above and directs to a plane below in the first major trump of the Tarot is really the power of the Astral Light, or dynamic energy of the fixed stars or sun. On such a foundation of preparatory instruction the aspirant is now ready to erect a superstructure of practice. And this practice, it must be understood, is in great measure mental practice. At the same time, the force that one learns how to manipulate in this Grade is an actual physical force-- SUNLIGHT. This is the reason why the sphere of Mercury is colored ORANGE. The color of this Grade of Practicus is ORANGE indicating solar energy. Never forget that in all this "mental practice" you are dealing with an actual physical force which Eliphas Levi called "Astral Light," and of which he wrote: "There exists a force in nature which is far more powerful than steam, by means of which a single man , who can master it and knows how to direct it, might throw the world into confusion and transform its face. It is diffused throughout infinity, it is the substance of heaven and earth. When it produces radiance it is called light. It is substance and motion at one and the same time, it is a fluid and a perpetual vibration. In infinite space, it is ether, or etherized light; it becomes astral light in the stars which it magnetizes, while in organized beings it becomes magnetic light or fluid. The will of intelligent beings sets directly on this light, and by means thereof, upon all nature, which is made subject to the modifications of intelligence." If we believe that certain musicians are performing "magick" (for lack of a better term) with their rituals and song, then this is a good explanation of what they are attempting to do. If this does relate to the color symbolism, then I would tie it all back to the Tree of Life, as opposed to European history, but when 'As Above, So Below' gets involved, I guess we often see it worked out in both realms. The True and Invisible Rosicrucian Order www.themasonictrowel.com/ebooks/rosicrucian/Case_-_The_True_And_Invisible_Rosicrucian_Order.pdf
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Post by thisone on Dec 14, 2008 22:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by B on Dec 14, 2008 22:31:59 GMT -5
I think that is Sean. The way she was shouting, he would have had to have been a few rows back.
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Post by thisone on Dec 14, 2008 22:45:41 GMT -5
I think that is Sean. The way she was shouting, he would have had to have been a few rows back. Well, John wouldn't want to be recognised or identified, and she knows that. Why wouldn't she shout as though he was further back and not standing right beside her. I know it's just speculation!
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 15, 2008 13:58:37 GMT -5
Meanwhile, back in Hawthorne, CA, it seems as if Emitt and Olivia Harrison may have known each other..."Born on February 25, 1950, in sunny Hawthorne, California---home to fellow pop maestros the Beach Boys--- Emitt Rhodes grew up in a family that appreciated music. At nine years old, he began to pound on the drums and when he attended Hawthorne High, at 14, he joined a Top 40 band called The Emerals. The Emerals morphed into the Palace Guard who became fashionable enough to get the high school students a regular gig at the Hullabaloo on Sunset Strip. Every once in a while Rhodes would take a break from the drums and come up front to sing the Beatles' "Michelle." www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608004604/Emitt-Rhodes.htmlAnd..."Olivia Trinidad Arias (born May 18, 1948 in Los Angeles), aka Olivia Harrison, is the widow of George Harrison, former member of The Beatles. They were married on September 2, 1978, following George's divorce from Pattie Boyd, and had one son together, Dhani Harrison, born August 1, 1978. She is the daughter of dry-cleaner Esiquiel Arias, and his wife Mary Louise, who worked as a seamstress. She has brothers named Ron and Gilbert and sisters named Chris and Linda. Olivia attended Hawthorne High School and graduated in 1965. "" In 1974, Olivia was working at A&M Records and had talked to George Harrison many times over the phone. George was impressed and sent one of his friends to find her. George and Olivia met at a party and soon developed a romantic relationship." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Harrisonjesmith2009.tripod.com/id12.htmlA&M, incidentally, is the label that signed The Merry-Go-Round in 1967. They were dropped in 1969, and I can't find any indication that Rhodes was at the label while Olivia was working there, but still...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 15, 2008 14:36:56 GMT -5
Meanwhile, back in Hawthorne, CA, it seems as if Emitt and Olivia Harrison may have known each other..."Born on February 25, 1950, in sunny Hawthorne, California---home to fellow pop maestros the Beach Boys--- Emitt Rhodes grew up in a family that appreciated music. At nine years old, he began to pound on the drums and when he attended Hawthorne High, at 14, he joined a Top 40 band called The Emerals. The Emerals morphed into the Palace Guard who became fashionable enough to get the high school students a regular gig at the Hullabaloo on Sunset Strip. Every once in a while Rhodes would take a break from the drums and come up front to sing the Beatles' "Michelle." www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608004604/Emitt-Rhodes.htmlAnd..."Olivia Trinidad Arias (born May 18, 1948 in Los Angeles), aka Olivia Harrison, is the widow of George Harrison, former member of The Beatles. They were married on September 2, 1978, following George's divorce from Pattie Boyd, and had one son together, Dhani Harrison, born August 1, 1978. She is the daughter of dry-cleaner Esiquiel Arias, and his wife Mary Louise, who worked as a seamstress. She has brothers named Ron and Gilbert and sisters named Chris and Linda. Olivia attended Hawthorne High School and graduated in 1965. "" In 1974, Olivia was working at A&M Records and had talked to George Harrison many times over the phone. George was impressed and sent one of his friends to find her. George and Olivia met at a party and soon developed a romantic relationship." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Harrisonjesmith2009.tripod.com/id12.htmlA&M, incidentally, is the label that signed The Merry-Go-Round in 1967. They were dropped in 1969, and I can't find any indication that Rhodes was at the label while Olivia was working there, but still... The excerpt below indicates that Olivia Harrison's first job out of High School was working at A&M Records, and that she stayed there until 1974, when she moved to A&M's new subsidiary, Dark Horse.
Since Olivia graduated high school in 1965, this opens the door for her to have been at A&M while Emitt Rhodes was one of their artists from 1967 to 1969."Born Olivia Trinidad Arias in Mexico in 1948, she was educated in America and graduated at Hawthorne High School, California. She remained in Los Angeles and went to work in the merchandising office at A&M Records. She was then moved to Dark Horse Records as a secretary — George’s Dark Horse was a small subsidiary label of A&M. Olivia was 27 in 1974, when George first met her in the company offices. They talked together on the phone on numerous occasions and when George was returning to the States to work he asked a friend to check her out." www.beatlesfactfiles.utvinternet.com/factfilesx1/TheHarrisons/OliviaHarrison.htm
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Post by puzzled on Dec 16, 2008 3:55:38 GMT -5
I found this information regarding the esoteric meaning of the Spiral Staircase or Helter Skelter: The Masonic Handbook www.scribd.com/doc/4023498/The-Masonic-Handbook-Series-The-Craft-Degrees-Handbooks Bearing this fact in mind we shall the better understand the ceremony of closing, wherein the JW, representing the Body, declares that in this degree they have discovered a sacred symbol, representing God. The fact that it is the JW who makes this announcement, and not the SW, is explained by the correct interpretation of the Winding Staircase. This Staircase is our own body, as we shall explain later (p93). The Winding Staircase with its three, five, seven or more steps, must have puzzled many thoughtful Brethren, who have no doubt wondered why it was that those who codified our rituals could not make up their minds concerning the exact number of the steps the Staircase had. This very fact warns us that it is an allegory, for the thing disguised under this name can be considered to consist of three parts, five parts, seven parts, and possibly more. The three who rule a Lodge represent the Body, Soul, and Spirit which constitute Man. The five who form a Lodge are the five senses of the physical man. But the physical man has both soul and spirit, each of which has its own peculiar sense, the Sould having psychic faculties, and the spirit the mystical and inspirational. Although the ordinary man while on earth only functions through the five physical senses, those who are approaching perfection, such as the Great Masters and religious teachers of the world, function through all seven (94). Perhaps at this point one should explain that the Temple at Jerusalem, masonically, is an allegory for the Temple of Humanity raised to the glory of God, or, to use a Christian simile, the Church of Christ on earth, into whose fabric every true mason is built, dedicating his body and soul as a perfect ashlar in its construction. This Winding Staircase spiraled round a central column, so that when the Brethren reached the top they had advanced neither to the East nor to the West, but were still revolving around the center. To an Eastern Brother this Winding Staircase will certainly recall the ladder of reincarnation, by the gradual ascent of which the Soul in time returns to God, from Whom it came, traveling upwards in a spiral.
But to the Western mind this Staircase is our body, subdued, brought under control, and dedicated to the glory of God. This done we receive our wages, which are knowledge of God in that hidden chamber which is within us (95). www.sirbacon.org/mcompeer.htmEntrance into a Masonic lodge passes between the two columns, representing Jachin and Boaz, those great brass columns that flanked the outer porch of the Temple of Solomon. On each respective column is a globe. One globe is a map of the world, the other a map of the heavens. Inside the columns to the right a spiral staircase leads up to the Middle Chamber. Significantly, there is also a ladder (not mentioned in the Bible) in the Masonic symbolism. The ladder connects the ground floor of the lodge with its roof, but symbolically the ladder is Jacob's Ladder by which the Mason hopes to climb at some future date to heaven.
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Post by puzzled on Dec 18, 2008 23:03:51 GMT -5
I found a Hawthorne/Lily cross-pollination today.
From "Plant Lore, Legends and Lyrics" by Richard Folkard, page 31:
Of the flowers specially dedicated to May, first and foremost is the Hawthorn blossom. In some parts of England the Convallaria is known as the May Lily.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 19, 2008 13:45:21 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that I'm not the first to suggest this, but I think that there are TWO different singers on the MMT recording of Fool On The Hill.
I'm going on record here to suggest that the first voice belongs to Emitt Rhodes, and that he sings only the line "Day after day, alone on a hill".
The rest of the song is sung by someone else, possibly Denny Laine, or maybe even a sped-up (pitch-shifted), early JPM take.
Fool On The Hill:
Emmit Rhodes, Birthday Lady:
A possible explanation for this is to lay the groundwork for future obfuscation. After all, if "they" can point to ONE song that has two very similar, but subtly different "Paul" voices on it, then it makes it easier argue that there was NOT a replacement.
Does that make sense?
Oh, and I think that "Come And Get It" was an Emitt Rhodes song as well.
Come And Get It:
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 19, 2008 22:57:05 GMT -5
I just noticed that the JPM demo of Fool On The Hill did NOT have the "Man of a thousand voices" line.
Interesting.
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Post by puzzled on Dec 20, 2008 16:28:26 GMT -5
I listened to all of them as carefully as I am able. I agree that you can definitely hear a difference. However - my problem is that if we know that they manipulated tape by speeding or slowing or other forms of manipulation, it seems difficult to identify when that is happening vs. having another singer. I suppose we need someone who has actually worked at a mixing board at the profession level to tell us if those kinds of voice timbre or strain are detectable sounds. I feel like they could mess with it to the extent that we could never tell? I hope you know what a great sacrifice it was for me to do so. I've chosen not to listen to this music on a personal level, because I am not fond of the emotional manipulation that happens to me when I hear them. I'm able to be a little more critical of the process now, but it goes deep for those of us that grew up during that time. Sitting through that song three times - ugh, took it out of me. That first version is head and shoulders above the second - and that ending that he added at the end on the second one really ruined the mood of the song. I know he probably gets bored playing the same songs repetitively, but still, it just didn't feel the same at all. There's no doubt in my mind that he's in there somewhere. That break in that first line is really noticeable, but then maybe they took one of the early morning and mixed with another cut from later in the day? Doesn't that make a difference too? I just don't have the knowledge base to comment I guess, but here I am commenting anyway ;D I guess I just want to encourage your work. I'm really enjoying this thread so far. I get discouraged when I feel no one out there is listening, so I may as well leave my thoughts in my head where they belong
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 21, 2008 9:36:12 GMT -5
I listened to all of them as carefully as I am able. I agree that you can definitely hear a difference. However - my problem is that if we know that they manipulated tape by speeding or slowing or other forms of manipulation, it seems difficult to identify when that is happening vs. having another singer. I suppose we need someone who has actually worked at a mixing board at the profession level to tell us if those kinds of voice timbre or strain are detectable sounds. I feel like they could mess with it to the extent that we could never tell? I hope you know what a great sacrifice it was for me to do so. I've chosen not to listen to this music on a personal level, because I am not fond of the emotional manipulation that happens to me when I hear them. I'm able to be a little more critical of the process now, but it goes deep for those of us that grew up during that time. Sitting through that song three times - ugh, took it out of me. That first version is head and shoulders above the second - and that ending that he added at the end on the second one really ruined the mood of the song. I know he probably gets bored playing the same songs repetitively, but still, it just didn't feel the same at all. There's no doubt in my mind that he's in there somewhere. That break in that first line is really noticeable, but then maybe they took one of the early morning and mixed with another cut from later in the day? Doesn't that make a difference too? I just don't have the knowledge base to comment I guess, but here I am commenting anyway ;D I guess I just want to encourage your work. I'm really enjoying this thread so far. I get discouraged when I feel no one out there is listening, so I may as well leave my thoughts in my head where they belong Thanks for the feedback, puzzled. I do appreciate the sacrifice! puzzled wrote:
"However - my problem is that if we know that they manipulated tape by speeding or slowing or other forms of manipulation, it seems difficult to identify when that is happening vs. having another singer.
I suppose we need someone who has actually worked at a mixing board at the profession level to tell us if those kinds of voice timbre or strain are detectable sounds. I feel like they could mess with it to the extent that we could never tell?"You are correct, puzzled. There's no way for us to definitively know who sang what. I've been recording music for 15 years, and I'm basing my opinion on comparisons to the many singers that I've worked with. We've done lots lots to manipulate vocals, but in the end, it always just sounds like a manipulated version of the same singer. Paul's voice during the Pepper/MMT era, often sounds more than just manipulated, though. It sounds like a different person. In fact, it sounds like multiple different people. Compare this to a band like U2, who have been at it for 28 years. Although Bono's voice has matured and gotten rougher, I really don't think there's ever any doubt that the guy who sang "I Will Follow" in 1980 is the guy who sang the HEAVILY MANIPULATED "Zoo Station" in 1991, and is the same guy who sang "Vertigo" in 2004. The Beatles, on the other hand... James Paul McCartney sings "I'm Down"I believe that this is JPM as well, singing "Sgt. Pepper""Penny Lane" is where things start getting weird. I can remember hearing this when I was very young and feeling a vague sense of unease and wondering why the voice sounded so different. "When I'm Sixty-Four" is strange in a similar way, but where Penny Lane sounds like a different person, 64 sounds like a different person, with heavy manipulation, to boot. "Hello Goodbye" sounds like the same person who sang the majority of The Fool On The Hill, which we discussed earlier in this thread. The Fool On The Hill:And now we're full circle, as I believe this is JPM singing "Let It Be". I Think that his appearance here is also an indication that this is the original JPM. Just look at the scar on his lip. It looks far worse than it does in The Fool On The Hill and the Hello Goodbye vids, although by this time, it's had a couple more years to heal... So again, I can't PROVE any of this. Especially the Emitt Rhodes/Denny Laine connection, but my ears and my recording experience tell me that there were at least three different "Paul" voices from late '66 up though today, and Rhodes and Laine "fit the suit" better than anyone else that I've come across. Oh, and I'm sorry I posted so much more to listen to, puzz, but your objecivity is greatly appreciated!
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Post by puzzled on Dec 21, 2008 10:06:53 GMT -5
I wasn't aware of your personal history - so I respect your opinion. Having that ear of a professional makes all the difference. U2's Bono has become such a tool for the Elite, I wish he was a replacement. I used to love U2, but I can't listen to them either any more. I suppose this experience here at NIR is pushing me to find a new music for myself. Life does get dreary without it.
Since I was already in the mode after the Fool listenings, I decided to go ahead and watch Yellow Submarine, which I hadn't watched since I was a small child. I remember hating that head Blue Meanie guy with the effeminate creepy voice. Love the Sea of Holes though. I've got a hole in me pocket ;D
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Post by puzzled on Dec 21, 2008 10:46:25 GMT -5
Ok, I listened.
With my VERY untrained ear, Sgt. Pepper sounds like Faul/Bill to me. He has a certain "strain" to his voice that I don't hear in the original voice. JPM gets a "gravelly" or rough effect that Faul has to work too hard at. Sorry I don't have better words to explain it. JPM also hits the higher notes easier and more naturally.
On the "Let it Be" it sounds like a combo-sound - almost between the two somehow. Not implying they mixed them together, that is just what I hear.
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Post by B on Dec 21, 2008 16:37:00 GMT -5
The blue meanies wear mouse ears, like Mousekateers do. It can't be a coincidence. (01:38) The Beatles - It's All Too Muchwww.youtube.com/watch?v=8GuAeXLtdPApuzzled wrote: U2's Bono has become such a tool for the Elite, I wish he was a replacement.And BeatlePaul at TKIN feels that Bono of U2 was replaced.
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Post by puzzled on Dec 21, 2008 17:04:35 GMT -5
Hey B:
I told you I tried to watch Rosemary's Baby the other day. The mousse that they give her to drug her is referred to as "mouse." Even in the ritual when her husband asks if she isn't awake, they say she's had the "mouse."
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Post by B on Dec 21, 2008 17:21:56 GMT -5
It's been so long since I saw the movie, it's as if I've never seen it. I'll have to take another look. Interesting info, though.
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Post by puzzled on Dec 21, 2008 18:00:22 GMT -5
Yeah, they do make a point of commenting on it. Her husband jokes about the old woman calling it "mouse" - and of course she doesn't eat it all but scoops it into her napkin instead, which is why she is partially awake during the rape.
I think it is the fact that her husband is part of it that makes it so horrible for me to watch. Everyone around her is lying, and he doesn't care that his wife is abused, as long as he gets his career that he wanted.
How could Roman Polanski even live in his own skin, considering what happened to his wife and child? The whole thing is too gruesome to even consider.
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Post by B on Jan 1, 2009 18:48:50 GMT -5
P(D)enny La(i)ne wrote: "Merry-Go-Round had a recording contract with A&M Records when they disbanded in 1969. Rhodes recorded songs at A&M for a solo album to be entitled The American Dream, but A&M decided to not release it at the time." The American Dream album was subtitled " Lillith". An alternate cover was produced, showing Rhodes standing by a decrepit hamburger stand, as if to suggest, as the CSN&Y song does, that the "American Dream" was in decline. I may start a thread to cover the topic of (the) "American Dream", as it is significant in the context of PID/PWR. This linking of Emitt Rhodes to a record of that name (of which I was unaware) really may put Emitt squarely in the role of a Paul vocal imitator, and he may possibly be the one who is "all washed up" in the CSN&Y song. (more to come, in all likelihood)
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